Anime (US/CAN) General thoughts and ratings for .Hack//SIGN 21, "Despair

[Zephyr]

Since Shy does not seem to be around I will just repost his rules so everyone can rate the episode.


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[size=1].hack//SIGN - "Despair" - Episode 21 - July 19, 2003

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[size=1][color=darkblue][b]Thank you for posting this thread. I was unable to access a computer over the weekend and couldn't post this thread up on Saturday night like I usually do. I'm Sorry for any inconveniences this may have caused. -Shy[/b][/color][/size]

[KKC]

[B]Rating: 9/10 [/B]

KKC's imatation of Tsukasa: O_O O_O O_O O_O O_O *drools* O_O O_O O_O *picks a twig* O_O O_O O_O O_O
Sorry aboutn that ^_^' anyways, I thought this episode was really good, Even though it went a bit slow near the end I thought it was really cool. I bet you people anything that Tsukasa rips the stuffing out of the bear! *Bear runs and hides*

Ok! Part when Crim fought big unbeatable monster! That was really cool! ..... but..... Im pretty sure that it killed Crim T_T I mean, did you see his face when He told Bear that he fought one. And then he said "You either run away or die" Crim doesnt seem to be the kind of guy who would run away from a fight unless he was saving someone elses skin and not his own. T_T Im glad they didnt show his die.... I would have cried.... *I attached the serious pic of Crim to the bottom of post*

The spell is Crim's phone number! T_T Subaru still gets everything..... *crys* Well.... er.... Tsukasa's a girl.... It wasnt much of a shocker because a while back someone posted a spoiler without covering it up that Tsukasa was a girl......

"Silver Knight is jelous, Silver Knight is Jelous!" *does dance* Sora was actually pretty funny is this episode. I loved it how he taunted SK (Silver Knight) It kept me intertained ^_^ I bet him and Silver Knight will end up fighting one of the monsters, and then SK dies XD

The info for the episode was pretty good, mainly about Harold the programmer guy.... Hes missing in the real world O_o thats odd. Usually I would have a theory, but Im toatally stumped on this. *thinks hard* Yep, im stumped....

Well, I give it 9/10 mainly because of the slow part at the end, even though it had alot of info. ^_^

Look how serious he is! It makes me Cry T_T

[Domou]

[b]Rating: 8.5[/b]

Nice one by the way K.C.C, made me laugh. *drool* :p

Great episode, seeing Tsukasa like that just leaves me with tons of questions. And so does that unbeatable monster, what connection does it have with the key of the twilight?

Also, B.T. shows a small hint of kindness within that dark heart of hers, almost telling Subaru that Tsukasa was a girl in real life, that one stunned me. :eek:

[OtakuSennen]

[b]Rating: 8/10[/b]
Hehe.. K.K.C., you stole the joke I didn't tell anyone and didn't think of doing until I saw your joke.. :(

This episode really didn't do much for me.. I don't find it nearly as exciting as the previous episode, "Tempest".. Important things happened, but they didn't throw me much.. They discovered who Harold is, but nothing much happened.. Tsukasa sat there fondling the teddy bear.. And we saw Helba!! *waves flag with Helba on it* But I have a feeling this is building up to next episode, which I'm hoping will be more exciting.. Ooh and Maha showed compassion.. Hm.. I wonder if that will have any signifigance..

^_^ I think this episode wasn't supposed to be a great episode.. Just building up to a better one.

[Zephyr]

[b]Rating: 8/10[/b]

Yay!!! Helba was in this episode. hopefully she will finally say something in the next one.

Tsukasa looked like he had took a drink from a big bottle of ether. It was kind of amusing, although it slowed the entire episode down.

As much as I hate BT, I like the fact that she was picking on Silver Knight again. At least it showed her [i]one[/i] redeeming quality, she is smart enough to make Silver Knight look like an idiot (hard trick, right?). And Sora was definately showing his age in this episode.


Oh, K.K.C., nice pick. For some reason it also reminds me of the constant stare of hatred that Hajime Saito (sp?) gives Kenshin in [i]Rurouni Kenshin[/i].

[7gR]

9.5/10

Spoiler still not great with spoiler thing.
[ Well now I know why Mia is infatuated with Aromatic Grass.]
This episode to me seemed to be more about Maha than anyine else. The poor thing seems more confused than ever. If the voice controls Maha then why is Maha needed to be persuaded? The voice gave the same promise to Maha that she gave to Tsukusa. Why did she though?

[KKC]

Thats a good question.... But I dont think the episode was only about Maha, Maha wasnt in much of it. I think "The voice" Is trying to do something to "The World". Like desroy half of it or something, so that Her evil deamons can take over! *cough* well, something like that.
I think that Maha cares about Tsukasa alot. Poor Maha T_T

[Elk]

9/10

this episode was good but slow. it made me sorry for Tsukasa (that's weird!) because (in my opinon) he was already tramatized enough with his mother dying and Aura and all and then that happens and it's like he's brain dead! he poked the bear's eye out and then started doing the same to the other(bet he'll beat the crap out of the bear then go after bear cause he soooo stupid now he thinks bear's a bear!)

i like the parts with Crim and with Sora making fun of SK. I think Maha feels sorry for (brian dead) Tsukasa and that is probly the reson Mia loves Arimatic Grass and why Elk (that's me!) loves Mia. Poor Crim!(if he did die which is likely)*starts crying for Crim*

[Whiteblaze]

[B]10/TEN[/B]

It seems that B.T. might actually have a heart; she was being considerate for a change, instead of cocky.

Poor Tsukasa, by his actions, he appeared to be blind and must be, anyway.
*The way he was feeling around him, it looked like he needed to because he could not see what was in front of him.

*His eyes were not focused on one particular thing, just staring off ahead. Also, his eyes had that dull, kinda cloudy look.

*When Maha came, he did not look his way at all or even glance directly at him. And Maha looked like he was checking to see if Tsukasa could see him (by moving around him).
However, Tsukasa did notice Maha's presence (he gave Maha that piece of grass he picked up).

Another thing, with Tsukasa, obviously something is wrong whatever it is, I think anyway. He looked, I don't know, like he was in deep thought or maybe in shock?
Either way, he looked so helpless, like he needs a hug.

K.K.C., I believe you are right about Krim being killed. He had quite a serious look on his face and the way he said that was very serious too. I didn't even notice or think of that!

Oh, and [COLOR=darkblue]M[/COLOR][COLOR=blue]a[/COLOR][COLOR=darkblue]h[/COLOR][COLOR=blue]a[/COLOR]= [COLOR=blue]cuteness[/COLOR][B]!!![/B]

[COLOR=royalblue]~~~[/COLOR]
Before I concluded that Tsukasa was blind, I was thinking about his actions themselves. Of the things he did, I thought of the things he '[I]could[/I]' have done, for example, he could have gotten himself up and gone to see the others or have said hi to Maha and asked him a question or something but, he didn't do anything except sit there like a lost child.
I was [I]especially[/I] trying to put meaning to him flicking off the little teddy bear's eyes when, I suddenly did. If you don't get it, think about it a second.

Didn't anyone else notice/think he was blind besides me?!

[stun gun Milly]

9.5/10
This episode gave some good information because Harold the creator went missing for some reason and the guy they found was probably telling them something if they were to listen closely,and Helba made an appearence!I wonder what Helba and Bear are going to say or ask of.

Tsukasa he looked so helpless because he looked blind and couldn't see what was infront of him,that made me feel sorry for him,and Maha is soo cute Maha reminds me of my cat,it was nice how Maha showed that he was worried about Tsukasa and felt like he should of helped him.

Overall it was good because it gave some information and some emotion especially on Tsukasa.

[Guest Tical]

I think Tsukasa was blind. I liked the part where Sora dash killed those guys. I always like it when people teasse silver knight (commits hara-kiri for saying his name)

[AzureWolf]

It was interesting to see the video games series finally blend with the SIGN series. We have the "unbeatable" monsters and Helba. I thought that was interesting, since (as I have said before) the creators said that the fans will like the way SIGN flows into INFECTION.

Wow, I didn't even think about Crim getting killed. I figured he retreated because he tried his best, but yeah, he wouldn't run away. I guess he just kept fighting until one of them fell, and, unfortunately, that wasn't the monster... :(

Haha, I hate how she's not using "the spell." I guess she's determined to play within the boundaries of the game. Hopefully, we'll see her use it before the end of the series! [quote]It seems that B.T. might actually have a heart; she was being considerate for a change, instead of cocky.[/quote] Bah! How dare all of you say B.T.'s good! Those of you in the B.T. club should be banned, or at least PKed! (j/k) Haha, but in a seriousness, I don't think it was nice what B.T. did: she thought it was humorous that Subaru was interested in Tsukasa when Tsukasa's user is really a girl. Then she doesn't even tell her, and now Tsukasa and Subaru's relationship can grow, so when the truth finally comes out, it will hurt Subaru even more. That's not a nice thing, IMO. Tell her before things get serious! :mad:

Tsukasa's not blind! Haha, Yami*Maho Keno, that's some good sleuthing: saying knocking out the bear's eyes is symbolic of Tsukasa's blindness. However, I have to disagree with this idea because we have to remember that these are players in a game. I have yet to see any player paralyzed or physically disabled. I don't think it is possible. As much as the users are merging with "The World," I don't think blinding someone is something possible, or necessary for that matter (blind him? Why not just kill him?).

However, yes, I'm of the firm belief that nothing in .hack//SIGN is without meaning. Any "insignificant" scene may actually be one of the most important parts of the series, hinting at something, but we just brush it off as "something that happened." So I'm always looking back at some scenes that I have not yet found the relevance of. Now, we've got that teddy bear scene, with Tsukasa plucking off those eyes... :eek:

I [I]think (THINK)[/I] there's a slighty deeper meaning to the teddy bear plucking scene. The bear's eyes were black, representing two things: monotony (singleness in this case) and sleep. Tsukasa's pupils are dilated. They say that our eyes "are windows to the soul." There is no soul behind those black eyes of the teddy bear. Tsukasa's trapped in the game. His mind has been trapped, but has his soul been trapped as well? Tsukasa seems to answer this question by rejecting what the bear represents: he doesn't know if he's human, but you won't see his/her soul through Tsukasa's eyes. Tsukasa, being both his own user and himself, loses more than most people when his character is damaged/altered/hurt. Tsukasa has lost a lot. The question remains, can what's left still be considered human? Even if Tsukasa's user returns to the real world, will whatever going back into that shell be enough to constitute a human being? There lies Tsukasa's singularity with his user, and the relation to the monotonous plucking of the Bear's false visage.

The second refers to Aura. We see, in a dream, Aura opening her eyes, only to reveal black. Opening your eyes within a dream does not mean you are truly awake (obviously). Maha represents this idea best, as Maha may have his (her?) eyes wide open, but will he (she?) ever wake up in the real world? Is he (she?) [I]anything[/I] beyond this "dream" world? Aura asks Tsukasa this question in that dream, opening black eyes, creating a paradoxical effect (i.e., eyes that are open, but they are black as if still in darkness/asleep). Now, Tsukasa is there, all alone, almost no different than Maha or Aura: just a character that has been "dreamt up" in "The World." Tsukasa can't open his eyes and awaken to the real world. Still, Tsukasa tries in vain to logout/wake-up, and he shows this effort by tearing the teddy bear's eyes, hoping that by removing the black dream eyes, reality will reveal itself. After breaking the first eye, it's obvious to Tsukasa that it's useless, but Tsukasa's monotony takes over from there.

EDIT: Haha, or I may just be a crazed fan who has too much time and starts seeing things that aren't there! :sweat:

[Zephyr]

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Bah! How dare all of you say B.T.'s good! Those of you in the B.T. club should be banned, or at least PKed! (j/k)
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*A small man in Chinese robes walks up to a podium.*

"The great Confuse-us says: 'To acknowledge that a person is evil you must first acknowledge their good points. That way you know what to dismiss in an arguement.' " ;)


(Well, there goes my sanity)


I doubt that Tsukasa was blind. I think he was just in a state of shock. If he were blind I doubt that he would have noticed Maha and given her the piece of grass.

[magic_raditz]

[B]RATING: 8/10[/B]

I thought that the episode gave a lot of information that will be usefull. every scene looked like it will fall into the grand scheme of things later on. Sora by far continues to be my faverote character just because he plays like a little kid, and also that pair of weapons he has on his hands are awsome! i love those things :) . all in all it was a good episode, and i expect next episode to be full of action and information.

[KKC]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AzureWolf [/i]
Wow, I didn't even think about Crim getting killed. I figured he retreated because he tried his best, but yeah, he wouldn't run away. I guess he just kept fighting until one of them fell, and, unfortunately, that wasn't the monster... :(
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T_T That was the best description of what happened to crim that I'v ever heard so far. *sniffles* What a brave man! Going down in the line of duty! ..... *cough* anyways....
I dont think Tsukasa went blind. When your blind, your eyes turn whitish not purple O_o I think he was... er... Hypnotised, but wasnt told to do anything when the person snapped there fingers... Wow, thats creepy. I still bet that he rips the Bears stuffing out! That always seems to happen to the stuffed toys.... Poor things...

[Zephyr]

It would be funny if they start the next show off with Tsukasa sitting next to the bed, still dazed :drunk:, with the bear in pieces scattered next to him and the bear's ear hanging from his mouth. :laugh: :rotflmao:

[KKC]

*falls over laughing* That would be great! Maybe he DOES get hungry when stuck in "the World"
Tsukasa: MMmmm.... Bear...
Bear: Tsukasas a Canable! *runs away*
^_^' Maybe its a sign that its the teddy Bear thats being killed O_O What if Bear is killed! It must be a sign!!

[Guest Guardian11]

This is the aftereffect when Tsukasa's power to awaken Aura was drained. it WOULD look funny if Tsukasa HAd a bear ear hanging out of his mouth [spoiler] But there wasn't![/spoiler]