eleanor Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 [size=1] I wasn't sure if this should've gone to the Music, Movies, etc. forum or here, so I posted it here. O_o How do you feel about the shows that take some anime elements and mix them with american cartoons? To name one, Totally Spies (which is a horrible show, I might add) definately take anime style art and exressions. Teen Titans, too. When I first saw the previews for that, it reminded me of anime, and from what I heard, also used anime expressions. I guess...Jackie Chan Adventures uses some of the elements as well. What do you think?[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tical Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Dont forget my personal favorite, Samurai Jack. Along with PPG and Dexters Lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwakuraLain Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 i like the blend of american and anime styles so long as they have good storylines and can pull it off, like samurai jack. it gives american cartoons an interesting twist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 [color=hotpink][size=1]Why does it have to be "Anime style" in "American cartoons?" There are lots of old American cartoons that have good plotlines, decent artwork, etc. What if it's the Japanese who are borrowing ideas?[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 [size=1] ^_^ Just saying this only because of the artwork in the cartoons, not the plots or ideas. I'm saying this because I beleive even if Japan borrowed ideas, Japan also exaggerated the big eyes, small mouth, etc. and is more commonly known as Japanimation. Surely, even if America started it, they're borrowing specific expressions and art-style that originated from the Japan animation. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 [quote]Why does it have to be "Anime style" in "American cartoons?" There are lots of old American cartoons that have good plotlines, decent artwork, etc. What if it's the Japanese who are borrowing ideas?[/quote] Q.Asuka, I don't think maladjusted is trying to be politically correct. Simply, he wanted to express a methodology/style that he really could not say any other way than "anime style." Because he couldn't figure out another way to state this idea, he used a term that people would still understand. Personally, I think it's ridiculous how exact/perfect a person has to be in order to say something sometimes. We get the idea, and I think that should be all that a person is required to do. Anyway, I think it's interesting to say the least. And yes, whenever I see the Teen Titans commercial, I just dislike the [I]extent[/I] they try to mimic anime. Specifically, I'm referring to the high-pitched singing they have. That's just excessive... Anyway, I think it's a great thing because not only does this "blend" display a greater acceptance of world cultures, it will also "desensitize" future generations, so to speak. Haha, I wait for the day when I can play yugioh without mockery (ironically, by Magic TCG players)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 [size=1] Thanks, AzureWolf....but, I'm a girl. O_O Lol, but I don't care. People always mistake me for a boy. Anyways, I think that these shows are just the brginning of the whole thing. Japan isn't the only country that's going to supply us with anime, right? I mean, Korea and China definately have their share of anime. Another example os the Tokyopop Manga contest, and which they say that want to pursue the future of manga artists in the US, and I think it's a great idea. But yeah, the shows that are adapting to this idea aren't doing a good job, in my opinion. Although, Samurai Jack is a show I really like. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Dammit maladjusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That stupid banner had me reading for like 10 minutes. For some reason i love that adult swim thing. Its like .........LOOK.......AT....ME........I'M.........HERE......[ADULT SWIM].......SWEET For some reason thats entertaining. *glances at topic* of well as for that if you want to bring that up look at power puff girls. (glances at tikal, oh....) How does Dexters Lab imitate anime? Just because they have big eyes? besides anime kind of looks like micky mouse anyway. Some of you are saying that the big eyes mean japanimation. What about Disney characters? Some shows though, i admit, do try and mimic anime. I can't name any right now but they exist. Just like cheese puffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 [size=1] Vegeta Rocker, if you'd read the the second post I wrote, I just answered all your questions. I never said the big eyes=anime, I said even if Japan took the big eyes, small mouth concept from America, (i.e. Mickey Mouse), they exaggerated it and is now more commonly known as anime. I am not trying to trash american cartoons here, I'm just saying these shows (i.e. Totally Spies, Teen Titans, Jackie Chan Adventures) borrow elements of animation made by the Japanese/Koreans/Chinese. You know, the sweatdrop, the vein, the blue lines, the agitated and surprised expression. The only shows I mentioned were Totally Spies, Teen Titans, and Jackie Cahn Adventures. Jackie Chan Adventures...ok, this show doesn't use so much of the anime. But Totally Spies and Teen Titans specifically use the sweatdrop, vein, etc. These expressions were NOT used by american cartoonists. I can assure you of that. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I noticed that when american shows due try that, its never as mature or beutiful, or action packed as Japanese anime. Its like watching hello kitty with humans most of the time. The only descent one to me is Teen Titans. I think its kind of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadClown Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 What about when American cartoons make direct references to anime? Like in the series finale of Reboot a couple years back. The episode where Mainfraim was crashing, there were several references to anime in it, one being the sprites clad in different colored sailor outfitts hudling around one holding a large glowing crystal and sporting Long blonde pigtails. Whats that remind you of? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 [color=hotpink][size=1]*Laughs* I loved Reboot and I must say that that was one of the best moments of the show. It was the last thing I really expected to see, but it was classic.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy_phenil Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 i'd like to think the shows intentions are noble and what not.. get the feeling its more along the lines of cashing in on anime's recent fame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadClown Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=hotpink][size=1]*Laughs* I loved Reboot and I must say that that was one of the best moments of the show. It was the last thing I really expected to see, but it was classic.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I remember whe that show came out, way back when I was a little kid and it was on ABC saturday morning cartoons. It was entertaining for an 8 year old. The last season, which took them like 5 or so years to come out with, was very good though. Had me glued to my seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic Angel Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 [size=1] I think mixing American cartoons and Anime Cartoons together is okay, well, to me it is. But I'm not sure whether it is or not because, sometimes, It's not really cool, i mean the show is not good sometimes.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i] [B]I noticed that when american shows due try that, its never as mature or beutiful, or action packed as Japanese anime.[/B][/QUOTE] This isn't specifically aimed at you, Double B... There's a stereotype running around that says all anime are well thought-out, deep, and meaningful. Well, for all people who believe that, I have 2 words for you... Tokyo Pig. That said, I like the anime-style themes currently being used in some American shows. Teen Titans, for example, uses the famous facial expressions of anime, with the smooth animation more commonly found in America. And that's all it usually is, really. Facial stuff. Characters react facially like in an anime. Their faces are drawn more anime-like. And half the time, with shows like Dexter's Lab or Poowerpuff Girls, the creators are just really big anime fans who like to throw in odes to their favorite anime. The guy made Dexter's Lab is obviously a fan of old school Mech anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 1. Tokyo Pig is an anime aimed at younger children and i hate that alien! It should die! Die aline Die! 2. Teen Titans is the ownly american anime i liked. I said that already. It funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I don't see how it matters. Animation is animation and everyone is inspired or interested in something else. They all take cues from eachother, and have for years. I get the feeling that most people think American cartoons have to look like Hanna Barbara cartoons or they are ripping some other company off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Hmm... Well, I think a lot of things have anime elements today.. Stickers, characters, the whole deal. just like a lot of things in Japan have western elements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emme888 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 American anime is horrible, pure anime only!!!!!!!! The only american cartoon I like is Daria..cause her negitive out look on life is so funny!! Daria, Trent and Jane are awesome...but other than that pure anime only.......mixing American cartoons with anime...ha! Anime is the best and you can tell it by the quality in animation...American Anime is Hacky...ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 [size=1] I think I like the idea of american animators mixing anime styles in with their cartoons. How else are obsessed anime-drawing freaks gonna get a job, eh? lol Semjaza, I pretty much agree on everything, it's just something new to see american cartoonists trying to blend the two cultures. ...I'm sounding messed up. O_o I think the person who made Samurai Jack is also the director of Dexter's Laboratory, and the creator himself said he was a huge fan of anime...[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Now, did you know that the First anime, Atom Boy, was inspired by an american cartoon. And many japanese animeka love american cartoons. Like i read an interveiw with Kia Asamiya (silent Mobius, Dark Angel, Steam Detectives) loves Dexter LAb, Samurai Jack, and Power Puff Girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 [size=1] Ok...third time saying this... I believe that anime was infulenced off of Walt Disney's cartoons, (i.e. Mickey Mouse) with the big eyes, small mouth design. I'm saying that in anime, the animators have exaggerated the designs, makind specific expressions and is now more commonly known as anime. The recent american cartoons, (i.e. Totally Spies, Teen Titans) are just trying to blend the anime style in! (using specific expressions that were created in anime) [i] Please[/i] read the thread before you reply...[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 The Japanese just took the early forms of Cartoon from America, added in their own two cents, and it became Anime. Then American Cartoons get influenced from anime, and add it into their cartoons. Its a mutual relationship which keeps on evolving and improving both sides. I say its a good one :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 [size=1] ::gets very irrated:: Isn't that what I just said? O_o >__>;; Sorry, I'm in a bad mood. ::sigh:: ^_^ Well, I agree with your part that it will keep on getting better if we just share our ideas with each other...[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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