Movies and violence

[Demonic Angel]

[size=1]All I can say is that, I think it's the parents fault. Maybe the parents really don't have time to discipline their children, that's why their children decided to do killing spree.[/size]

[eleanor]

[size=1] Yeah, I agree with you. As I said earlier, parents should know their children enough to know if they're responsible enough to watch movies like those. Of course...they could have just gone without permission. When I saw Matrix: Reloaded, the people didn't even ask me if I was over 17, and the police-men just checked the ticket stubs.[/size]

[amibasuki]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mina [/i]
[B]Two weeks ago, while I was in New Jersey, there was this mews report on the cops foiling a plan by some kids, ages 18,14 and 15(?). These kids were planning to go on a killing spree and were quite heavily armed. During trial,the 18 yr old, who is said to have started this thing,blames their impulses on the Matrix.
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[FONT=arial]what a load of bull. if it really was the 18-year old who said that watching the Matrix had made him attempt to kill and not the psychotherapists or whatever they were, then he's just trying to find an excuse to cover his sorry....buttocks. I mean, that's what we've been told nowadays. the media's influence is what make people kill. yeah, that's it. he was [i]hypnotized[/i] into trying to kill people; yeah, that make loads of sense! hah, that'll be the day. he knew exactly what he was going to do. I seriously doubt he had a some mental impairment that would have weakened his judgement, because if he did, then it would also be on the news. he [i]chose[/i] to give into those 'impulses,' whether they were caused by the movie or not. if he had such a problem with negative influences in the first place, he shouldn't have watched those types of movies. again, that's why they have R-ratings, because it keeps most impressionable kids from watching R-rated material. if kids [i]do[/i] manage to see it, it's not the director or the actors' faults. the people who let them see it are the ones to blame (ie: parents/guardians and ticket distributors). and even then, while the law says they can if they want to, if certain adults can't handle it, then they shouldn't watch it either. they have control over themselves, they don't [i]have[/i] to watch stuff like that if it puts 'overpowering' thoughts into their heads. :rolleyes:

edit: :drunk: maladjusted, your banner is evil. how could you even [i]think[/i] it?! *dies* they're kinda cute in chibi form though. :love:[/FONT]

[Baron Samedi]

The Matrix wasnt rated R in Oz im sure. it was M 15. anyway it is not responsible for this. when peoples minds (if they really did, and are not merely making an attempt to become 'victims' themselves by blaming it on other causes) get to the stage where they can forget the line between fact and fiction, then they should be taken away. the Matrix is so obviously a fake (i.e. flying? big ships underground??) that any fighting would not contribute towards making it seem like a real and plausible thing to do. their choice of a cover story was poor. they should at leats of chosen a believable lie. The Matrix is not enough to inspire violence in any mind, aside from those of the dangerously unhinged, which is unlikely these kids were. it is the stupid kids, the ones who playup, that make the problem. irresponsible for their own actions. They need to grow up.

[Guest Randleman]

[color=crimson]If *I* was being tried for planning to go on a killing spree, I would say something besides my sick mind influenced me. Damn, I would blame videogames, movies, music, and the internet. But I would never say that no one is to blame but me. It's human's natural tendency to not want to take the blame for things.

I play violent video games all the time. I kill things, I blow things up, I rip pixels limb from limb, but am I doing to go out and starting killing people? No.

Some of my favorite movies are [u]Natural Born Killers[/u] and [u]Pulp Fiction[/u], but I'm not going to go around acting out the movie. I'm not ******* stupid.

I won't do it because I have been raised by my parents that acting violent is wrong. It isn't right to go and kill someone. No matter how many other people you see doing it, you're not going to do it. It's under the same "If Sally jumps off the bridge are you going to too?" principle. So Neo walks into a government building lobby and starts shooting. That doesn't mean I'm going to have the urge to go off to a government building and open fire.

If these children were raised by responsible parents that give a damn, none of this would have happened. I visit a Harry Potter message board for "slightly older folk". They have a forum called "Nude Disco: For when you have the undeniable urge to be lewd, crude, and socially unacceptable. Get NEKKID. WOO" This mother proceeds to come in there and start trolling about how we are all evil because her son went onto the board and saw something he shouldn't. She think's it was somehow our fault that her son saw it, and that she is not responsible for her son's actions on the internet. We put it there, so it is our job to police the net. This other mother proceeded to respond to her saying "Perhaps you should monitor what your child does on the computer. You know... be a parent. I know... it's a shocking concept. I don't allow my 13 year old daughters (I have twins) to be alone at the computer when it's connected to the internet...
and I don't let them have the password to sign onto the internet. We didn't ask your child to come here, you allowed him to come here, so why don't you take that finger, and point it right back at yourself...
You should be ashamed."

That is what I am ranting about. If this kid's mom who was saying we were wrong doesn't monitor what he son does or teach him proper morals, then he may turn out just like the kids who were arrested before they could go on a killing spree. The other mother was what I like parents to be. They monitor what their children watch, to, etc.. And are there to tell them right from wrong.

"crappy parents raise crappy kids."

Then there are those select few kids that are just ****** up no matter what their parents do. :p[/color]

[Japan]

I think that blaming it on some rated "R" movie is really lame. I personally think that it is the parents fault, well, the two youngest kids anyways. I think that the 18 year old just blamed it on something so that (s)he doesn't get the full out punishment. I think people like that, meaning trying to do stuff from what they see in games and movies, need help., but then again, that's just my opinion.