Guest screw_top_baby Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Hey Fly-t that isn't style thats a a form of a gung fu style, and have ya heard of jeet kune do ? look it up i don't even feel like explianing it to ya, but i take part in this . lets see if one of ya can explain this to your other friends, i agree tkd is to much kicking and has to much form and not the natural feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyxe Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I'm doin' Tae Kwon Do.... basicly the only thing I am doing other than... computer, read manga, and ... ummm nothing else. But I'm almost done... I'm on my red belt. All I know is that I'm good and I enjoy it! I've had quite a few times where I had to defend myself with the arts. Most ppl know not to mess with me now! :bellylol: :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I used to take Kuk Sool Won, when I lived in England. I participated in it for three years. I had to quit because I moved back to the States. I enjoyed it, while it lasted. I'm going take a form of karate soon from Okinawa. So I can't wait for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Change Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Bruce Lee started off with Gung Fu in Hong Kong, after he had advanced and compleeted his training of Gung Fu, he abbandoned all styles and began creating his own styless style called Jeet Kune Do. This style is only for the truly advanced students and corresponds philisophicaly with the Tao and Zen Buddhism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I do Tae Kwon Do (i'm a green belt currently). But i also use the philosphy of Jeet Kune Do (the Way of the Intercepting Fist) in which you use what is usefull and reject what is useless. You become formless and you don't attack with a routine. I also add boxing foot work, dodging and some punches, and Tae Kwon Do kicks and blocks. I'm thinking of doing Wing Chun, so i can learn better punches and the infamous "one-inch punch" . SO i would say Jeet Kune Do is my "style". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TriGunMaSta68 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Yea, i did do some Karate way back when, i got to like Yellow belt before i quit(wasnt that like the second belt lol?). I do some boxing tho, i go to the local gym and there is a ring that people can box in. i do it sometimes with my friends, i always kick dey ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magdalena Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 My boyfriend is the youngest instructor at his karate classes. He got his blackbelt 4 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardust Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I took Karate classes for about a year,it was fun,but I started to get bored of it..like most things I took up.I took it up cuz I had sum twin friends whose uncle and his dad taught a class.It was cool for awhile.I was almost a blue belt,we had to do all these tests to get stripes on our belts,but I sware they treated the girls worse cause my sis and I (and they wouldn't advance us seperate,which I was so mad at because my sis never tried) got a stripe while the new boy got a whole belt!What's with that?He wasn't all that great...We had to do a lot of crunches and butterfly streches before class.One time,we were doing this scenario where it was like you were walking up the street,and they had another student come up and say "Do u have the time?" and the idea was to take this person down.And you know,we had on the loose fitting karate outfits and stuff,so when it was this kids turn to take him down,he got him down...but his pants came off!HAHAHAHAHAHA,it was the funniest thing ever!And the sensei also once sent his head through a wall,got stuck under the buching bag,and went to kick a bag,missed and fell over.It was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i] [B]I do Tae Kwon Do (i'm a green belt currently). But i also use the philosphy of Jeet Kune Do (the Way of the Intercepting Fist) in which you use what is usefull and reject what is useless. You become formless and you don't attack with a routine. I also add boxing foot work, dodging and some punches, and Tae Kwon Do kicks and blocks. I'm thinking of doing Wing Chun, so i can learn better punches and the infamous "one-inch punch" . SO i would say Jeet Kune Do is my "style". [/B][/QUOTE] [font=gothic][color=indigo]Well, I do Zenith Tae Kwon Do, and one of the things we practice extensively is knifehand/palmstrike styled techniques. Mainly because they require a lot more finesse than simple punching. And because I've done Zen Do Kai karate, I've never had a problem with a lack of hand techniques. I've always preferred knifehands anyway. And I've never considered Tae Kwon Do as being too much form, because asiding the patterns, everything does flow quite well. You can do twenty kicks in a row, without restarting your motion. Personally, I think that's pretty open ended.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Yay, but the reason i imploy the foot work is because its always harder too hit a moving target and i can turn out any attack i want at any given situation and go back too the hopping around stance. And the style of TaeKwon Do i study is primarily kicks only with nothing more with upper body techniques than blocks and simple punches, knifehands, and back fists. So i put together my own martial style and shadow box very often using my style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 [font=gothic][color=indigo]That's basically what I mean. Using the basic precepts of the knifehands, backfists and palmstrikes, refined by the karate experience I've had, basically rounds off upper body techniques quite well. The finesse of Tae Kwon Do's upper body movements with the power of karate's, is what I'm trying to say. As for the fancy footwork thing...While I have no objection to avoiding a blow if neccessary, normally something like a side kick or other powerful and fast kick, I've always found it preferable to redirect the move's momentum into your advantage, or simply block and counter. Say if they throw your typical barroom brawl style hook punch, you perform an inner-crescent block with the right hand, catching the outside of the wrist, twist it around, and force their hand down against their wrist with your left. This, to me, seems far preferable to trusting oneself to a possibly unstable footing or ground. I've also had quite a bit of experience fighting multiple opponents, and in those situations, you don't have the space to move around, so if you can't retain a measure of equilibrium, you go down. Hard...[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i] [B] So i put together my own martial style and shadow box very often using my style. [/B][/QUOTE] I'm a little doubtful of this... As I recall, you said you were in green belt right? I'm not sure how good that is, but I've seen a good number of amateur people developing their own 'style' which in actual combat, proved incredibly weak compared to the original style. I've only seen masters who studied the martial arts for years try to take up and start their own 'style', and even then, has a slim chance of living up to, or surpassing the original style. Isn't it much better to study the style intensively the way they teach it, and once you are comfortable with the entire style, start exploring it a bit? I still don't think I've done enough to start exploring, and thats after six years -_-. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 THat is why i try in my early life. So i can work on my entire life. And i'm still learning TKD and don't plan stopping until i'm at least 2nd degree balck belt, so if i need to add things hear and there, i have atleast mastered on art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 My point being, I think its a bit early to start adding your own two cents to the martial arts just yet... I'm not sure if thats what you think, but changing around the martial arts to suit your own way can undermine the basic training, and without the basics, you can only go so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I never said that i was going to forget the basics for my own. So far, TKD is the most scientifc and one of the most useful artial arts that i've seen. Like i said. I will master TKD, but after that, i'm going to move on too Wing Chun if i can find it. Threw that i will use its punches, Boxing footwork, and TKDs powerful kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Thats completely fine, but from what you said on the post I quoted, you gave me the impression that you were simply going to make up your own style as you progressed... its just a simple warning for me... it never works unless you know it inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 [font=gothic][color=indigo]Actually, you'd be fairly surprised at how adapting things to your own advantage can work quite well. The first night I started my Tae Kwon Do classes, my Instructor started to show me some stuff, I demonstrated that and more, and he realised I was pretty good. So, when the sparring came up, I was against a red belt named Wade. He'd done, along with Zenith Tae Kwon Do, another style of Tae Kwon Do and a similar style of karate, but due to my "customisation" of techniques, I had him off guard for a good ten minutes before a lot of extra practice finally gave him the advantage. It doesn't really matter how long you've been doing martial arts for, provided you understand the principles involved to the movements, you can personalise everything to the point where it basically is your own style.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I guess its a bit different then, for swords vs. hands/feet... its nearly impossible to customize your own way with swords unless you are completely comfortable with it... The movements are rather limited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Could someone explain to me what the difference is between most martial arts? I mean its obvious between stuff like karate and what? Shadow boxing? But more between the lines of karate and kung fu..I've heard that Tae Kwon Do is based on more throws than anything? Or did I get that mixed up with something else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 [font=gothic][color=indigo]Yeah, I personally believe using most weapons is actually disadvantaging yourself, unless its something like a kama or tonfa, you know, a weapon designed to be used in conjunction with martial arts. The difference in most martial arts is fairly minimal, excepting the body parts focused on. Tae Kwon Do is eighty percent lower body work, twenty percent upper. Karate is basically the reverse. Judo is throws and falling. Some martial arts are pressure points. There are a lot of philosophical differences in the beliefs involved with each, mainly due to the difference in the founders of each martial art, but movement wise, its all focus.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 [size=1] Well, from Korean terms, each syllable has a meaning. I think "Tae" is punching, or using your fist. "Kwon" is using your feet, or kicking. I forgot was "Doe" was, but I think it was something about concentrating and harmonizing your spirit. I think many forms of Tae kwon doe originated from Korea, but a fair amount also came from China and Japan. I really have no idea what "Kung Foo" is. I hate the word itself, actually. People at my school are idiots and whenever they see some Tae kwon doe, they make fun of it and scream, "KUNG FOOOOO!" while people in the background horribly imitate Chinese.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinken Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Although I'm not enrolled in a class, I occasionally practice Kendo and Tae Kwon Do, which are the two classes I would like to take (Kendo more than Tae Kwon Do). Like Double_B_Daigo, I prefer Bruce Lee's philosophy; it just makes sense. I would also like to take Karate. But, like I said, Kendo is my first priority. You should see me at my hose; I'm always in the woods practicing with the best sticks I can find. My folks think I lost my mind... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Sticks + trees = bad idea... I really don't see much advantage in that. If you are trying to meditate or something, yeah. But otherwise, nil. Try making a mobile of sorts, by hanging a stick from a bark of a tree with a rope, then hanging two sticks to that, etc. etc. Hit one stick, and the rest of the mobile starts moving in unexpected ways. Its hard as hell to dodge/block all of it, but it gives you a good training on reflexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 [font=gothic][color=indigo]The literal translation of Tae Kwon Do is "Hand Foot Way". Did I say that earlier, or in the other thread? I did the same kind of thing, with a speed ball on the end of a three foot string tied to the roof. Doesn't sound to hard to avoid, but when you're trying to [I]kick[/i] it at head height at best...You quite often end up looking like a fool just waving your leg around in the air.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i] [B]Could someone explain to me what the difference is between most martial arts? I mean its obvious between stuff like karate and what? Shadow boxing? But more between the lines of karate and kung fu..I've heard that Tae Kwon Do is based on more throws than anything? Or did I get that mixed up with something else.. [/B][/QUOTE] Your thinking of Hap Ki Do with the throws. Tae Kwon Do has little too no throws involved. it almost strictly striking techniques. Shadow boxing isn't a martial art, it just practicing by "Fighting your shadow". You kmow like punching the air. And i ahve a book on martial arts and TaeKwon Do stands for "the way of the kick and fist" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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