Saddam's Sons Killed

[Gavin]

[size=1]It reaches my attention that nobody has commented on the fact that as well as his two sons Uday and Qusay being killed in the fire fight, Saddam Hussayn's grandson Mustafa a child, [i]a child[/i] of 14 years of age was also gunned down by American forces. Now however dangerous and fanatical his family may have been it is inecusable to murder an innocent child of his age.

Mustafa may be the spawn of a Fanatic but I believe that he had every right to be as free as any other child of Iraq and I dare anyone to question that right. It's no wonder that America was taken off of the U.N Human Rights Council.(Thank you Michael Moore)[/size]

[Raiha]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Outcast [/i]
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Mustafa may be the spawn of a Fanatic but I believe that he had every right to be as free as any other child of Iraq and I dare anyone to question that right. It's no wonder that America was taken off of the U.N Human Rights Council.(Thank you Michael Moore)[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=royalblue]What's to say he wasn't also steeped in the thoughts and plans of his family? If they had all died and he had grown up, would he continue the family tradition of chaos and terror? Cliche I know, but we have no way of knowing which side he was really on. I don't condone the slaughter of any man, much less a child, but if he lived, would he do just as much harm? We have no way of knowing.[/COLOR]

[Domon]

I agree with Raiha, its too obvious. It doesn't matter that he was a kid he would have become enraged and more dangerous than any of his currently living family members and he would have probably done horrible things and maybe its just some paranoia but honestly I think the boy posed a threat.

And in response to the comment about the US being kicked off the UN Human Rights Council, personally I say this, who cares if the UN kicked the US off the Human Rights Council??? We're the ones over there giving the people of Iraq food and attempting to do other things as well, like we've been trying to get their power plants going again but there are some Saddam loyalists still there and they've been hindering the progress. But that's just what I think.

[Guest TriGunMaSta68]

uh oh, spagetti-o. picutres=proof.The american people needed to no.


P.S. i am the true stampede ;-)

[COLOR=orangered][size=1][i]Please[/i] clean up your post quality. It's terrible. I suggest you read our rules. -Sara[/size][/COLOR]

[Harry]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Outcast [/i]
[B][size=1]It reaches my attention that nobody has commented on the fact that as well as his two sons Uday and Qusay being killed in the fire fight, Saddam Hussayn's grandson Mustafa a child, [i]a child[/i] of 14 years of age was also gunned down by American forces. Now however dangerous and fanatical his family may have been it is inecusable to murder an innocent child of his age.
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The kid was shooting back, and 14 year old have been known to murder people.

[Gavin]

[size=1]From what I read Mustafa was being protected by one of the bodyguards who was attempting to shield him from being hit, he wasn't firing on the troops he was cowering in his own home.

And as for Domon's comments about the U.N. America has no authority to enter other countries and tell them how to do things, that's why we have the U.N peace keepers.[/size]

[Raiha]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Outcast [/i]
[B][size=1]And as for Domon's comments about the U.N. America has no authority to enter other countries and tell them how to do things, that's why we have the U.N peace keepers.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=royalblue]Maybe you're all BRAIN DEAD, but it might be the time to point out that Saddam's sons were the perpetrators of many of Saddam's ideas.

They were the ones who, by their own free will, gassed, gunned down, and destroyed thousands of Kurdish lives. In the name of Allah. For ethnic cleansing. They raped women, pillaged villages for no good reason, and murdered countless defenseless Kurdish children.

Is that right? Is it not against the laws of the U.N.? Didn't they know? Why didn't they do anything?

This isn't something the U.S. made up to amuse the public, it really happened. The proof is there, but we're so good at closing our eyes, we do it without noticing.[/COLOR]

[Domon]

[COLOR=darkblue]Again, I fully agree with Raiha and for once with Harry. The boy was firing back on our troops. And as to your comment about mine, has the U.N. sent in their peace keepers? No, because we're cleaning up this mess for them. I don't know why you think you have to stick up for the U.N. honestly I would like to see them attempt to do something but that's like hoping to see pigs fly.

Oh and as for your comment about America having no authority to enter other countries with permission, this is war. Face reality, did we call up Hitler when we invaded Germany? No. Did we call up Saddam during Desert Storm? No. You should honestly learn some of the facts of war.[/COLOR]

[Japan]

I am kind of happy that Saddam's sons are dead. They were very mean to their own people and vicious. Yes, the pictures of the corpses were nasty, but like James said, nobody would believe us if we didn't.

[Change]

We are a sad country indeed when we celebrate death and killing. Why the pictures, we had to proove it, it help Georgy Boy out because he has screwed himself by lying about Iraq in the first place. How many millions did it cost to kill them? You have operationaly cost of the helicopters and bombs and all the ammo our troops wasted, how pathetic does that make us look, it took us half the day to kill them...

[Corey]

"We came, we saw, we conquered."
Unfortunately we will also probably abandon again. I am an antiwar person. I think it's an evil thing to do. However, Outcast, if we had not entered that country people would still be dying. Far more than have been killed by US soldiers. Uday and Qusay Hussein were evil. They had power, and the authority to carry out their wishes, and they USED IT. They raped and killed women. They had people killed that did not agree with them. They literally destroyed their own country.
Unfortunately, I feel this was a very good thing to do. It goes against my stance in this pro/anti war world, but I would likewise feel bad if the tourture these people were forced to endure contiued.

[Raiha]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Change [/i]
[B]We are a sad country indeed when we celebrate death and killing. Why the pictures, we had to proove it, it help Georgy Boy out because he has screwed himself by lying about Iraq in the first place. How many millions did it cost to kill them? You have operationaly cost of the helicopters and bombs and all the ammo our troops wasted, how pathetic does that make us look, it took us half the day to kill them... [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=royalblue]Perhaps you missed the article, but our President was fed some false information by our so-called Army Intelligence. You can no longer trust them to tell the truth when they want to start a war. It's not entirely his fault he said what he was told. He probably trusted his advisors. We can't blame him for that. The cost can be dealt with. The same way every other war is dealt with. The money isn't the issue here. So don't harp about it. It doesn't make us look pathetic. That's your view. It's a war. Wars are not won in a day. They take TIME and STRATEGY. Obviously you've never heard of either.[/COLOR]

[Gavin]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KnightOfTheRose [/i]
[B]"We came, we saw, we conquered."
Unfortunately we will also probably abandon again. I am an antiwar person. I think it's an evil thing to do. However, Outcast, if we had not entered that country people would still be dying. Far more than have been killed by US soldiers. Uday and Qusay Hussein were evil. They had power, and the authority to carry out their wishes, and they USED IT. They raped and killed women. They had people killed that did not agree with them. They literally destroyed their own country.
Unfortunately, I feel this was a very good thing to do. It goes against my stance in this pro/anti war world, but I would likewise feel bad if the tourture these people were forced to endure contiued. [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1]I do not condone what Uday and Qusay did (they were evil) and I think that the World may be better off without them however I never agreed with America's reasons for War but I'm glad to see thery are at least doing some good while they're out there. I too am very anti-war and maybe I just don't understand the political thinkings of a that has been involved in so many wars since it's creation just over 200 years ago. I mean the War of Independance, The Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, Gulf War 1, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Gulf War 2. If I've missed any please correct me and no I'm not counting the Cold War.

We [The Irish] have fought many wars in our own time over the last 500 years, most for Independance. We didn't have the strategic location and resources of America so it took a little longer and a few more deaths and maybe we just got tired of wars and that's why were neutral and why I don't agree with Wars being right.[/size]