Kent Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Have you seen this... Dont have much time so this will be short. NewYork city, public school, only allows gay students. Its being created and instituted as of sometime within the last _____, and has been brought to the media's attention (or atleast to me) as of today. I dont know how long they have been setting this up or anything besides the 3 things above- nyc, public school, gays only. I say its discriminatory and unconstitutional to only allow students of a specific sexual preferrence into a public school that recieves state or federal money. Please, talk amongst yourselves until I return. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [size=1] Hm....I don't think it's actually discriminating against striaght people. I guess it's just like Girls-only or Boys-only schools. ::shrugs:: I really see nothing wrong about it. I actually think it's a nice idea. I can't be too sure, though.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conpiracymonki Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [b][size=1] When I saw this thread, I thought it said 'guys only' and I was gonna comment on how my school is guys-only >.>[/b] But now I have nothing to say, so..*shuffles off, all the while muttering something about public guys-only schools also being discriminatory*[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taylor Hewitt Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Erm are you forgetting. Girls only schools don't expect all the girls to like each other. Unless they are not... straight. But in gay schools the whole school will be attracted to eachother. Unless you throw in some of each gender. Whoa i'm starting to get confused :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conpiracymonki Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [b][size=1] But not all gay people'd be attracted to every other gay person. That's like saying every straight guy's attracted to every straight girl, or something.[/b] Yes.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [size=1] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i] [B]Erm are you forgetting. Girls only schools don't expect all the girls to like each other. Unless they are not... straight. But in gay schools the whole school will be attracted to eachother. Unless you throw in some of each gender. Whoa i'm starting to get confused :p [/B][/QUOTE] So? That's because they're gay. And it makes no sense. People in 'striaght' schools fall in love with everyone else, too. ::mutters::[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i] [B]Erm are you forgetting. Girls only schools don't expect all the girls to like each other. Unless they are not... straight. But in gay schools the whole school will be attracted to eachother. Unless you throw in some of each gender. Whoa i'm starting to get confused :p [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]Taylor, that is the most illogical thing that I have ever heard...peolpe aren't attracted to someone because of that persons sexual preference, they are attrcted due to individual attributes. I don't understand how a public school could get away with this. I'd understand if it was a private school (although I wouldn't agree), however, I don't understand how segregating a population helps to solve any problem.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 It has nothing to do with loving one another. This is about the fact that a non-academic acceptance policy for enrollment at this school is flat out discriminatory. Look at an all guys college like the military institute. At the cost of allowing everyone no matter what, they were forced to accept females into the school. (all due to the fact that the school recieved federal funds.) This policy is biased and wrong. If you wish to have your own school for gays only, then you must do it on your own and not with public funds. (thats why its not ok to have a catholic public school) This is the perfect example of a double standard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 But since gays are so discriminated against nowadays they need a "safe place". Just thought I should provide a view from the other side of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taylor Hewitt Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 ... I guess that came out wrong. Sorry I am hated here I guess. I always make a fool of myself and people get a false impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 I actually was already very well aware of that ideology, but it, unfortunatly, is not at all a valid reason. For this same reason, I should be allowed to recieve public tax dollars to fund and operate my own school for "fat" people only. They recieve the same sorts of tourment and discrimination, but would never be allowed to act on the same idea. (discriminatory acceptance policy's for a public school) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.D. Ryoko Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I see nothing wrong with a gay only school. I think it`s cool. Mabye they only want te school "gays only" because they probably don`t want to be discriminated by homophobes. I know if I were a homosexual(which I am not), I wouldn`t want to go a school where I would feel uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Why is the word 'gays' in quotations in the topic title? Anyway, it's not much a public school if it only allows gay people. Thats rather.... not possible... lol. So if this does go into affect, I don't think it will last before someone says or does something. The whole meaning behind public schooling is allowing everyone, having crappy teachers, and being funded by the state. But you can't allow only certain people and be a public school so I dunno whats going on... quite frankly though, I don't care. Gays get discriminated against more in school than anywhere else, this may be a safety measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 What about the geeks that feel uncomfortable everyday at their own school, but dont have the grades to go to any other school. (since grades are what all other schools are required to judge a student by.) In response to trans nerve... Good job. This is not an acceptable policy for a public school and you acknowledged that. This is what I call consistancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i] [B]But since gays are so discriminated against nowadays they need a "safe place". Just thought I should provide a view from the other side of the argument. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]I understand where you are coming from, unfortunatly segragating a set population, even with the consent of that set population, only helps to feed hate and bigotry. People need to come to terms with the fact that no one person is like the next...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 Just as importantly, it is neccesary to face a population if acceptance is the end goal. Running off and starting your own school is not how you fit in and get along or establish yourself as an equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Change Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 It should get the same kind of Federali money that porochial schools get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Yagyou Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Dont forget if they made a schools for straights only the gladd people will sue. Thats kinda stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Change [/i] [B]It should get the same kind of Federali money that porochial schools get. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]They shouldn't recieve any funding. Segragation in public school is unconstitutional. What does porochial school have to do with public schooling and segragation? Porochial schools are tax exempt, they don't recieve much (if any) funding from the government.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [size=1] I actually want to read the article and know more about it before I say anothing more. ::hint hint::[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Yagyou Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Whoa smart people here. Anyway, what I said is kinda like boys cant go to girls scout and girls can go to boys scout ((not like they want to)) But there is another problem with that type of thing in hockey, you get the picture. But I think its morally right to leave the gay school alone cuz maybe they cant pay for a private school cuz their parents hate them for being gay ((And for the record Im not gay)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Change Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Those schools should not be public, and I protest that they are public, it is unconstitutional. I impled they should be private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Yagyou Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 But isnt it morally right? If you shoot someone in war its constitotional but is it morally right? No. So go with your conciounce and think whats right. like I said they let girls in boy scouts and boys not in girl scouts, isnt that not constitoutional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jubei Yagyou [/i] [B]Whoa smart people here. Anyway, what I said is kinda like boys cant go to girls scout and girls can go to boys scout ((not like they want to)) But there is another problem with that type of thing in hockey, you get the picture. But I think its morally right to leave the gay school alone cuz maybe they cant pay for a private school cuz their parents hate them for being gay ((And for the record Im not gay)) [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]My parents hate me for being me but they never made a "special" school for me...(actually my parents love me but you get my drift) You are reffering to a private organization when you refernce the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. If a private school was created specifically for gays I would have no problem, however, a public school should not be exclusive to gender/race/sexual preference...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Yagyou Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 And doesnt that mean that girls shouldnt go to boy scouts then. the administrators didnt want girls in a girl wanted to go in but boy scouts didnt let her so she sued and got to go in. I was in boy scouts and thats what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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