Suicide - Who says it's not worth it?

[Guest Taylor Hewitt]

Suicide.

A very serious topic. Many have done it, and many want to do it. Many people say it's not worth it. That there is hope. But is there really? If you are dead than wouldn't you be happier?

I once wanted to commit suicide. I was much younger but I still wanted to, or say I wanted to. The doctor just told me I would go to Hell because why would God let me in heaven if I'm throwing the gift of life away. His gift of life.

And now again I find myself faced with a decision that I already know the answer to. I know I wouldn't kill myself. Not today anyway. I know I will get a bunch of meaning-less responses saying "oh no don't commit suicide taylor hewitt you have your whole life ahead of you, you are only 13, just because your heart is broken doesn't mean you should kill yourself".

I didn't say I have intentions of suicide.

Nobody here knows what I feel like. Nobody here knows me. Nobody. So you can't possibly judge me or make conclusions. You have no idea what it is like to be me. Without a place. Without a friend. Without someone who loves you. I'm not going to rant and cry about all the things in my life that suck and all the things that make my life a living hell.

But the question is still, is it worth it?

[Sniglefager]

I don't think so. I mean, there's a lot of stuff to do in life before you die. I wouldn't want to miss all the fun stuff. Sure, life gets hard sometimes, but suicide is a little extreme, because it's the one thing you'll never have back.

[Zen]

Well, just give this a thought. You have survived all this crap threw out your life, would you really want to go threw all of that just for it too all amount too nothing? It is a very cowardly thing to do to kill your self and take the easy way out. If you were a real man, you would rough it threw and show all the people who gave you crap what you could eventually amount too. Life may backfire sometimes, but you can always make it better.

Its also truly selfish of you. You would have so many people who care about you and they would blame themselves for your death. There have been many people who died before there ultimate potential was unlocked. You must truly try to survive life. Your rewards will come eventually and you'll get what you ultimatley diserve. Just wait and Perserveir. I have. And i have had a seriously screwed up life. Beleive me!

[Kahlan]

I don't think it is. I have also come close, then i decided it wasn't the way i wanted to go. I want to make something of myself. I want people to remember me (honorably, i don't need to go into the history books as a con artist). Back then i wanted to become a Legend somehow. Sometimes i still wonder if i can become one. Whatever i find wrong with my life, i either say "so be it" or "i'll fix it."

[RicoTranzrig]

[COLOR=darkblue]I tend to act on impluse so I've come really close to it. I've put myself in dangerous situations and see if I can get myself out, usually getting hurt afterwards...like biking at very high speeds in a busy street or driving recklessly on the road alone. But nothing's ever put me in the back of the coroner's van and my common sense kicks in before something fatal happens.

For all those fortunate to be optimistic and outgoing, don't forget the ones who don't have many friends to talk to about their problems going on in their life. A simple hello or a small conversation with them means a whole lot. It does for me. Many don't have strength to reach out because all they see are closed doors and very few that are open.[/COLOR]

[Ayokano]

"They shall not kill"

A real preson does not avoid life and its ways,and all people should live it to the fullest.

So no,it is not worth it.People do love you,so don't say they din't.You do have a place,so don't say you don't.Killing yourself is nothing but throwing away your life,that so many people around you love you,will feel sadness in their hearts.

[size=1]and this is coming from a 12 year old....[/size]

[Zen]

Heres a philosiphy to think about. Its easy to die, but hard to except death. What if you commited suicide and then found that you really wanted to live life again and it be too late. It harder to live than to die. its human instinct to try to survive. That is why humans can adapt and have aposable thumbs.

[Transtic Nerve]

Suicide is not only cowardly, but extremely selfish. It prooves that you can nothing of no one but yourself and that you're too weak to take control of it.

I admit though, thats a bit extreme, but as far as I'm concerned, it's the truth. The only reason I could never commit suicide is cause I care too much for my friends and my family. I've thought about it enough.

[Guest Taylor Hewitt]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aYokano [/i]
[B]"They shall not kill"

A real preson does not avoid life and its ways,and all people should live it to the fullest.

So no,it is not worth it.People do love you,so don't say they din't.You do have a place,so don't say you don't.Killing yourself is nothing but throwing away your life,that so many people around you love you,will feel sadness in their hearts.

[size=1]and this is coming from a 12 year old....[/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

Wrong.
...
Wrong.

Nobody loves me. You don't know me. How would you feel if you waited a week without seeing your absolute love and she comes back and tells you she doesn't love you. That she never did...

[Ayokano]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i]
[B]How would you feel if you waited a week without seeing your absolute love and she comes back and tells you she doesn't love you. That she never did... [/B][/QUOTE]

That's a easy qustion.....

I would get over it and not kill myself.....and this is over one girl?

[Guest Taylor Hewitt]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aYokano [/i]
[B]and this is over one girl? [/B][/QUOTE]

What are you saying most people have it over more than one girl at the same time? And don't talk like she is just one girl. You don't know her.

Like I said I knew people would say things that are meaningless.

[Raiha]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i]
[B]What are you saying most people have it over more than one girl at the same time? And don't talk like she is just one girl. You don't know her.

Like I said I knew people would say things that are meaningless. [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=royalblue]It is meaningless to moan and sorrow over a girl for the rest of your life. There are millions of people out there for you to meet. Anything could happen. Yes, she is Just One Girl. We all our. There are people like us out there, you just haven't met them yet. Don't waste your life dreaming about what could've been. It's over. So move on. I'm sure she has.[/COLOR]

[WW2]

Um I'm pretty sure I can't change your veiws on the matter, since your mind is so clouded and confused. Feelings like these are very common among early teens.

All I can say is that you sound very selfish.
Just because that girl broke up with you, doesn't mean all her feelings are gone.
If you went out and offed yourself, I'm pretty sure she would be heartbroken and feel like she's to blame.

You wouldn't want her, the girl you felt so strongly for, to suffer would you? If you do, then it wasn't true love to begin with.

Just suck it up, live your life, and hope that the both of you will find happiness somewhere down the road.

But then again, thats just my opinion.:D

Oh and you can go ahead and flame me now, and say I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

[noodleboy]

" i disapprove of suicide more then anything else"

i believe suicide is a big step actually... but for the most petty reasons. yes at times it may seem better to end it but really it isn't there are ways to get away from the ghost that haunt u, so to speak.

it foolish. plus it's a what a coward would do. it's backing out of the game.

[wild thang]

dont commit suicide. ive thought about it before because ive felt the same way you do where nobody knew my situation and i felt that life wasnt worth living. but then i thought about my future that ive already laid out in my mind and i know that i could never go threw with it. maybe your life isnt worth living in your mind, but to other people you matter. dont do it.

[Guest Crimson Spider]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i]
Nobody loves me[/QUOTE]

Yeah, your probably right. So tough it out. You can't be soft in this world. You can't always depend on others for support. You could hold your own in a fight, no matter how weak or socially depressed you are. I may not know you, but know me!

My mother talks my ear off about worhtless stuff, gets drunk and falls asleep in a chair and drools with her mouth wide open pratically every other night. When I wake her up, she nags and complains and threatens me. Empty threats, of course. She usually forgets.

Then my father, who is convinced he is the superior christian, hates absolutly everything I love. Like watching TV, going to the boards, playing videogames. Going outside. Literally. He makes stuff up, and promises stuff, and then forgets and complains about it. Problem is that his threats aren't so empty. He uses the bible as a sheild to his arguements. PMPMS: Permanant Male PMS. That is pratically what he has. And he singles me out from the rest of the family.

They say they love me, then they do this dumb, worthless stuff to me over and over just to do it pratically. They don't understand me.

I have only 1 friend, who is completely dependant on me for stuff. He is the one guy I can fall back on for support. Thing is, he is more like a student than a friend. Always telling him stuff. Not to mention that his parents hate me for no apparent reason. So I can rarely ever see/talk to him. So my connection with him is nearly severed. We don't even go to the same school, and I haven't seen him ever since we moved.

My brother works nights, so I never see him. He was always picking on me until he got his job. Now he works, and sleeps in the day. I can talk to him every once in a while. But he's about as antisocial as I am.

My sister is the one who understands me the most. We are always talking about stuff. She likes a good some of what I like. But she works, and goes to collage, so I never see her. Even she doesn't quite understand me.

I have no friends at my school. I am one of the weakes kids in my whole school who doesn't weigh 50 pounds less than I do. I was picked on for being white, smart, and contradicting in my old school. Now in A-Tech, I'm picked on for being white, dumb, and contradicting, I could probably be beat up by about the whole male population of that school.

Do I let that get me down? No! I tough it out. I can handle myself. I can do things myself. I just don't sit around feeling sorry for myself. So what if people don't like what I say? So what if people hate me for being dumber than me? So what if I'm more contradicting than that loser Marshal Mathers? I don't give a crap! All of these things that plague me will be gone eventually, so I ready myself for the long haul.

Have I thought of suicide before? Yeah, who hasn't. Why didn't I do it? Because I knew it was the dumbest thing I could possibly do.

Now, I have had girl relationships. Both times, they had moved away. Did I even so much as weep for a second? Nope! I say it is a chance to move on. There is not really such a thing as true love. So you like a girl? She hates you or goes way. You don't mourn about it. You move on. Your grandmother dies. You move on. She is gone. Weeping about it does no good. (Man do I feel like a boot camp drill sargent). Who says your grandmother didn't go to heaven and you won't meet her there? Who says that that girl that moved away, or hates you won't get back together with you, or changer her ways? Nobody! No matter how empty that glass is, there is always the part that's full. Be glad with what you got, not what you don't. I have 1 friend, and a sister that are pretty darn good. Even if I am downed upon for my opinions, and not being as smart as other people at my school, I'm still going to a pretty darn good school. Atleast I'm not under a dictatorship.

So no one loves you... for now. But what about in 10 years? You won't know. Neither will that person. But time changes, things change. Even if the glass isn't any more full yet, it doesn't mean it won't fill up, or it isn't a different kind of emptyness. So go on, and be a man about it!


Then lets look at suicide itself. One who commits such an act for such selfish reasons could not have been a man of god. Basically, you would have gone to hell for no thinking, but doing. But since you are now dead, you go to hell. Quick trip, eh?

There is only a few cases in which suicide would actually be a good idea. Lets there is a war, and you are captured by the enemy. Lets say it is a country like Iraq and they torture you just for fun, and probably will kill you anyway if you don't fess up information. So you don't give them the honor to kill you, and you protect your nation. Does that mean you would go to heavon? No. Does it mean that you would go to hell? No. Since that kind of stuff won't be happening anytime soon, you'll have to go through it.

[Baron Samedi]

You seem to be thinking this is the WORST thing that anyone in the world has ever experienced. How long had you been together? If you had been married for 25 years, and then she left you...well that would be worth some real bitterness. But you are...what did you say-13? I am too, but that means the max you could have been going out for is...2 years? any more time than that and it wasnt totally serious to start with. You would have been too young. And even now, i think, that you're probably too young to feel so bad. Say you left town. Within 6 months you'd harsdly ever think of her. 2 years you would NEVER think about it. I have had a girlfriend. She dumped me. Sure it was sad. but iun that amount of time, at our age, it is virtually impossible to get really, really powerful feelings for another. You may have had them. if you did, i am sorry. But dont [b]kill[/b] yourself. that is very very stupid thing to do. there is so much time left, and so much more stuff to do, that it is a waste. And with my typically cynical nature, i think that the strength of the feelings you say you had for this girl, is sligthly exaggerated. If i am wrong, then i apologise for my bluntness. But i am just telling you how the cards seem to me. Im sorry that you broke up.

[Epsilon]

Ok, GO CRIMSON SPIDER!!!! Love listing to what CS has to say. Ahem, back on topic, anyways you have no true propose to be thinking of suicide. It's [u]A[/u] girl, on the earth there is something like 5000 well based matchs for ever one. Sorry coming off rude, but you should take the adivce given to you. Tough it out. This actually gose agianst what I had said on IM, but this adivce your getting right now, helps! Try to not think about her, as get off the comp. and play some video games on a PS2 or something. The longer you think of suicide the more you plan it out, till you just kill your self. Trust me on that! Don't kill your self, you have your life in front of you, and it will hurt those around you. Don't kill your-self over just one broken heart, you two didn't even know each other too well I'm thinkg. I know for a fact that that's true too.

[Mist]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i]
[B]

And now again I find myself faced with a decision that I already know the answer to. I know I wouldn't kill myself. Not today anyway. I know I will get a bunch of meaning-less responses saying "oh no don't commit suicide taylor hewitt you have your whole life ahead of you, you are only 13, just because your heart is broken doesn't mean you should kill yourself".
[/B][/QUOTE]


[color=crimson][size=1] Well, you won't get that from me. What I'm thinking is, "Go Ahead. Throw your life away. Waste it. If you don't want to be here, then we don't want you here either." Obviously, as being connected only by internet, nobdy will be able to stop you.

I say this insensitive comment because it's just like a real-life scenario. If you hate football, don't go to a game. I fyou don't want to learn a foregin language, don't take a class in one. If you don't want to live life, then end it.[/color][/size]

[quote]
Nobody here knows what I feel like. Nobody here knows me. Nobody. So you can't possibly judge me or make conclusions. You have no idea what it is like to be me. Without a place. Without a friend. Without someone who loves you. I'm not going to rant and cry about all the things in my life that suck and all the things that make my life a living hell.[/quote]


[color=crimson][size=1] Whoa...you're absolutely right. Nobody's ever been heartbroken before. The world's only out to get [b]you.[/b][/color][/size]

[Kwai]

All this over a girl... So you want to take the coward's way out. None of us really has the power to stop you... but bear in mind... suicide is foolish... you are yet 13 correct? And assuming that you live to... 80... you have... 67 years left to live. So you feel angst and anguish and all the other emotions and u want to end your life. I really can't say I care, but suiciding right before you go into bloom, I must say, is not only cowardly, but stupid. Life is a big roller coaster ride. Have fun. Go for it.

[otakukev]

You know, at the beginning of this thread, you said you weren't considering suicide. Now it sounds like you are. You point out that no one loves you, but the only solid example you've set is your love coming back and dumoing you. I doubt if this person is everyin in your life. What about your parents? Siblings? Other relatives? Think about it for a sec. If nobody loved you, would you be living in a house? Would you be getting food everyday? Not likely. You'd probably be living by yourself in a sewer or something. And don't think that your parents are housing you because they pity you.

As for this girl-your "love", so to speak-ignore her. It's not like she's the only girl in the world. Jeez, if I got really depressed for each girl that didn't like me back it'd be permanent by now. You're not the first person this has happened to, either. Go back a page or two and find a thread about "MaxSonic's Love Problems". Read it. He had the same problem, only it was WORSE. And look at all the support he got. If no one loved you, why are all these people at the OB here to give advice and support you? I know you're having some rough times, but stick it out. It'll get better.

As to suicide, it's only for cowards who have nothing to believe in. They've given up all hope. They think that everyon has forgotten about them; that God has forsaken them. Well, that's a load of crap. If everyone had forgotten them, would there be an uproar when the person's dead body was found? Would people cry? Why would they bother with a funeral? And why would you hear about suicide being so popular? If you commit suicide, you may have taken the easy way out, but people will remember you as the kid who thought himself the dregs of the human race and couldn't take it. But let me emphasize: you're NOT. People LOVE you. They CARE for you. Just because one girl doesn't love you doesn't mean the world hates you. Since you've joined the boards, you've met a lot of people and I'm sure many have come to respect you and the person you are. Though most have never actually met you, and likely never will, they don't want you to get overly depressed. They want to help, and you should take their advice. They care about you. The posts in this thread should be proof of that.

There. I'm done now.

[Sniglefager]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Taylor Hewitt [/i]
[B].
Nobody here knows what I feel like. Nobody here knows me. Nobody. So you can't possibly judge me or make conclusions. You have no idea what it is like to be me. Without a place. Without a friend. Without someone who loves you. I'm not going to rant and cry about all the things in my life that suck and all the things that make my life a living hell. [/B][/QUOTE]

I used to feel like that. I used to think no one loved me, because I live with my grandmother. My mother lives almost two states away from me, and even though my father only lives like 20 minutes away, he hardly ever visits me. In fact, until 6th grade, I really didn't have any friends, because most of them just hung around me so I could give them food from my lunch. I used to get so angry and sad, that I would just leave the house and just sit around by the pond near my old elementary school, watching the geese. But then I started thinking things over, and realized that people really do love me. Even though my mom lives two states away, she often cries on the phone because she misses me, and my dad and I talk on the phone quite a lot now. And I've had two of the best friends anyone could ask for for the past two years. So you just have to believe things will get better, because they will, whether it be tomorrow, next month, or even like 5 years from now. If you don't believe that it'll get better though, then you'll just have to do what you think is right.

[BabyGirl]

[color=deeppink]Well yeah, the thing is you [b]ARE[/b] only 13, and you [b]DO[/b] have a lot of time in life ahead of you. Ugh, it bugs me to no end when teens want to die over a "crush". Ok, so maybe you were convinced that you loved her, but love comes with time and mutual sacrafices....not one-sided, puppy dog obsessions.

Grow up and live until you're 90. You'll be happy that you did.[/color]

[Brasil]

Taylor, do us a favor. Do shut your mouth.

I don?t mean to sound harsh?oh wait, I do.

?Nobody here knows what I feel like. Nobody here knows me. Nobody. So you can't possibly judge me or make conclusions. You have no idea what it is like to be me. Without a place. Without a friend. Without someone who loves you. I'm not going to rant and cry about all the things in my life that suck and all the things that make my life a living hell.?

?Wrong.
...
Wrong.

Nobody loves me. You don't know me. How would you feel if you waited a week without seeing your absolute love and she comes back and tells you she doesn't love you. That she never did...?

?Like I said I knew people would say things that are meaningless.?

Spare us the melodrama. Spare us the ******** and moaning. Spare us the over-dramatization.

You?re acting like a little girl. Stop it. Stop your whining. Everyone is sick of it. You know, I?m no mod or anything and mods do forgive me if I overstep any bounds, but Taylor, your post quality is atrocious. There?s a scene near the end of Billy Madison. Billy gives a lunatic reply about how a little puppy that lost his way is a reference to the Industrial Revolution. You know what the moderator said to Billy after that answer?

?That is quite possibly the dumbest and most outrageously stupid answer I?ve ever heard. All of us in this auditorium are now dumber for having heard it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.?

Read that closely, Taylor. Every time someone reads one of your ?woe is me? posts, they get dumber. I tell you, even being down in Virginia Beach, at the Williamsburg Busch Gardens, having to deal with inbred staff members and families that have ONE brain between them, didn?t give me the kind of intellectual drain of your babbly and mind-numbingly trite posts.

?What are you saying most people have it over more than one girl at the same time? And don't talk like she is just one girl. You don't know her.?

Oh please. Don?t make me sick. You?re getting this worked up over DAYDAY? Dayday is nothing to get upset over. She?s just as immature as you are. She means nothing (oh and I?m sure I mean that with the UTMOST respect?) and if you?re getting this worked up over her, then you are seriously doomed. You have no definition of what life is, do you? You should REALLY listen to what Crimson Spider is saying. CS has it down. We all hit speedbumps in life, but we deal with it. If I threw a little hissy fit every time a little thing went wrong, none of my problems would get solved.

Did you see Apollo 13? Their problem was a hell of a lot more serious than ?oh, my first love doesn?t love me anymore, oh woe is me.? And you know, they didn?t throw hissy fits, did they? No matter how much they wanted to cry, complain, ***** and moan, they still would?ve been right back where they started.

Also,

?Like I said I knew people would say things that are meaningless.?

If you knew this?why did you even post? It?s obvious you?re too damn rooted in your little ?I?m the most important damn thing here and other posters? opinions don?t matter? hissy fit.

You know, you win the prize. I had been saving this for quite sometime. I had been saving this award for the dumbest, most reckless, most contemptible and most irresponsible display of human emotion that I experience. So far, there has been a close running between some of my old high school friends. But, consider yourself honored, because you just blew them right out of the water. Here. Here it is.

*gives Taylor Hewitt ?The Darwin Award XG-11?*

I?m done with you.

[Guest Crimson Spider]

[size=1]Note to self, don't skim over other posts so much[/size]

13? You know, that is the most prime age of which people consider suicide. Also the most people who commit it are 13, or darn close to it. I guess the chemicals messing around in their head seem to make things more extream for them.

Wanna know what happens to most of these people who consider suicide, especially at this age?

They get over it.