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[Hyper]

[size=1]This contains information from Infection, if you haven't beaten it, you may not want to read this.

On my way to fully understanding the .hack series I came across a gap, preventing me from a serious conclusion.

What do the phases do?
I know something is trying to awaken Aura differently, but I know very little. After you defeat a phase, the system temporarily crashes. (I just got into Mutation yesterday). Yet they have no introduction. All of a sudden they just start popping up.

What do the phases have to do with the "Epitaph of Twilight"?
Watch the cinematic of Skeith being Data drained form the Desktop. The video is called Phase One Skeith, Epitaph in Stone. Watch closely, and take a look at thew Data Drained Skeith. Now watch the video from the begining of the game. Remember that weird stone? It's exactly the same as the DD Skeith. And the same applies to Innis, and most likely the other phases. How can I link the two?

Keep in mind, I have seen barely any of SIGN, and am not able to all the time.[/size]

[AzureWolf]

Hmm... I guess there's no way to answer this question without hinting on what's going to happen in MUTATION. Well, let's just say if you still have these questions after you complete MUTATION, I'll be happy to answer them for you. You shouldn't, though. Additionally, I did do a little analysis on the Epitaph of Twilight a while back ([url]http://www.otakuboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25239[/url]), but I also don't recommend reading that until you finish MUTATION. Oh, and I just realized that some theories I made in the Epitaph thread don't connect when you consider the latest episodes of .hack.

Hope that helps... ;)

[Zephyr]

[quote]
What do the phases do?
I know something is trying to awaken Aura differently, but I know very little. After you defeat a phase, the system temporarily crashes. (I just got into Mutation yesterday). Yet they have no introduction. All of a sudden they just start popping up.
[/quote]


From what I have seen in Infection and Mutation the "Eight Phases" seem to act as both guard dogs and virus carriers. Each one ensures that Morganna (the one that created them) is kept safe (by drawing attention away from her) and also tries to provide for their own safety by carrying a virus that will infect more of the game.


[quote]
What do the phases have to do with the "Epitaph of Twilight"?
[/quote]

Once you get to the Wiseman part of the game this will be answered with a quote from the Epitaph. If you still want to know now I will post it in spoiler tags: [spoiler]The "Phases" are the beings that help "The Wave" destroy the land of the gods. This is written in the Epitaph, along with a long-winded explination of each of them.[/spoiler]


[quote]
Watch the cinematic of Skeith being Data drained form the Desktop. The video is called Phase One Skeith, Epitaph in Stone. Watch closely, and take a look at thew Data Drained Skeith. Now watch the video from the begining of the game. Remember that weird stone? It's exactly the same as the DD Skeith. And the same applies to Innis, and most likely the other phases. How can I link the two?
[/quote]

I would suggest waiting for the next two games. Most likely the answer will be there somewhere. I have not seen anything in either game that links the two yet.

[teptep]

interesting so basicly kite is destroying the world? but it is evident if you watch .hack dusk that is far from the case. oh and liminality number 4 your will see the outcome as well.

[Zephyr]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by teptep [/i]
[B]interesting so basicly kite is destroying the world? [/B][/QUOTE]


That would appear to be the case, but unfortunately there is one thing that makes it all a theory. Nobody really knows what Morganna (creator of the Phases) is trying to accomplish. All that is known is that she is using the Phases to do her work.

[Hyper]

My friend tells me that something is trying to awake Aura differently. (Direct quote from him) Perhaps that might be Morganna? He didn't know the name.

[Zephyr]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hyper [/i]
[B]My friend tells me that something is trying to awake Aura differently. (Direct quote from him) Perhaps that might be Morganna? He didn't know the name. [/B][/QUOTE]


Yes. As stated in the last episode Morganna (also called "The Voice") is attempting to "Awaken a Black Aura" (Quote from Harold/Broken Man). The purpose of this "Black Aura" is unknown as of yet, and will hopefully be explained in the last few episodes. All I know is that Aura's "awakening" is more important to .Hack//SIGN then Aura herself.

[teptep]

hmmms ok I will throw my theory into this, maybe morganna wants to control aura, or maybe just her power, that is why she sent skieth after her to capture her, but if you play the game infection and mutation you can see that after kite data drains skeith he traps aura in the bracelet. I am waiting to see the next game to see if that is the case and to see if morganna's purpous is just that.

[Hyper]

[size=1]I have another gap. Heh.

Key of the Twilight. No clue as to what it is, and readng the Epitaph analysis I think no one else does. So what could it be?
I have two guesses. Either can be totally out of the question. Or not.

-The braclet
-The Aura's

No why am I think this? Several reasons. I'll start with the bracelet. What is so special about the bracelet? Sure it can hack and Data Drain, but it's not the only thign that can. Helba can. Remember she gave you a Virus Core. And she also interupted your confrontation with Lios. I can't remember if it was protected, but I'm sure they had some protection. So what is unique about the bracelet? It glows when near Aura and the Phases.
My second guess are the Aura's. Black and normla Aura. Just assume that Black Aura was Dark Aura. And that the other Aura was Light Aura (we think she is the "Shining Girl" so it can't be that hard). Now what comes between light and dark on an average day? Twilight. And that's all I know for now.[/size]

[Zephyr]

Hmmm, I do not think that the Data Drain Bracelet is the Key of the Twilight. I know that it came from the Book of Twilight, but it does not seem to fit the power that the Key is said to have.

Here is a quote from the show that talks about the Key (and the Twilight Eye): [i]"When the Twilight Eye doth open, so too shall the path to me. Discourse with me, and against that power fight. When the key which overturns everything is possessed all will be revealed."[/i]

As it states, the Key of The Twilight is capable of "overturning everything" in the world, so far the bracelet does not seem to have that level of power (though it continues to get closer). Also, there is little mention of the Key in the games, leading me to believe that problem may be solved in .Hack//SIGN.


As for Aura being the Key, that could make sense. It would also explain why Morganna is trying to warp her. If Aura did not have some serious hidden powers I doubt that Morganna would even try to change her, and just let her remain sleeping. Also, in the games you will notice that the Bracelet is created by Aura and given to Orca in the form of the Book of Twilight. This proves that Aura has control over the game parameters.

[teptep]

um yes to the above pose, aura is the key to the twilight or is she? well she is part of it anyhow, and remember that the twilight is the space which is not registered online kinda like hidden amongst all the data, helba can move between this space. so if this space is the twilight then the key is the bracelet which was given to you by aura it uses a function called gate hacking which alows you to move into spaces that you normaly can't so all in all my opinion is that aura and the bracelet are both keys to the twilight.

[kiteS23]

I've posted this theory somewhere else, but here we go again. I think that the phases are the key(s) of the twilight. As of right now they seem to be what is overturning the system because when they are destroyed the system becomes more and more infected with viruses. That would also explain the purpose of the 8 phases.

Another question I would like to add though is, What is Cubia's purpose in the game. I personally think that he is a minion of Helba's that she used to test kite.

[Guest Tidal]

I might sound crazy but what if Aura isn't a whole? maybe she has been split into 2 halfs. her dark side and her light. maybe the two but together as a whole would be the Key. but that its my thought

[Hyper]

[size=1][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kiteS23 [/i]
[B]Another question I would like to add though is, What is Cubia's purpose in the game. I personally think that he is a minion of Helba's that she used to test kite. [/B][/QUOTE]

I personally thought that Cubia was just a highly evolved/[b]mutated[/b] virus expansion that was born and spread after Skeith was desroyed. But your theory makes sense. How else would Helba know it's name? I don't think it's in the Epitaph.[/size]

[teptep]

yes interesting, but didn't cubia come from skeith? how would helba know what it's name was if this creature didn't at some point in time exsist, and if thats the case when did it exsist besides during at the end of infection and mutation. maybe we will find out more in the next game?

[Hyper]

[size=1][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by teptep [/i]
[B]yes interesting, but didn't cubia come from skeith...maybe we will find out more in the next game? [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, I said that.
And I agree that Cubia might be later mentioned. You'd think from the time it was revealed, and the time you defeated it, that it would at least have had an introduction.

But now I have a new theory.
Cubia is Morganna's minion that is meant to keep Aura prisoner. Afterall, when Aura tells you her "location", she warns you of Cubia. So Aura knows it's there, and it has to be there for a reason.[/size]

[Zephyr]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hyper [/i]
[B][size=1]
But now I have a new theory.
Cubia is Morganna's minion that is meant to keep Aura prisoner. Afterall, when Aura tells you her "location", she warns you of Cubia. So Aura knows it's there, and it has to be there for a reason.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE]


Maybe not so much a prisoner, but just to keep her split apart. In one of Aura's e-mails she says that Skeith broke her into segments to limit her powers. This means that Cubia could be meant to guard those segments from Kite once Skeith was naturally destroyed.

The part that still bothers me is how Helba knew his name. I suppose it could have been mentioned in a section of the Epitaph that has not been shown yet.

Hopefully more will be answered before I go insane thinking about it.

[teptep]

I wish they would make a book based on the Epitaph of twilight book.

[Hyper]

[size=1]You're probably right, BP. I should pay more attention to Aura's emails. Anyways, new puzzle!

This relates to the ever-mysterious Morganna.
We don't know what she looks like, or what her purpose is, except that she wants to create Black Aura. She also is the mistress of the Eight Phases.

From the Phases Website BP posted, we know that Corbenik (Phase Eight) has three forms. The author of the page thinks that Corbenik is Morganna. I don't know the answer, but it seems probable for a few reasons.

Morganna is quite powerful. I mean, if she can create eight large monsters, we assume that she has a lot of control. However, is she was so powerful, how come she didn't go pursue Aura herself? So obviously, she can't reveal herself in any tangible form, which is why she created the Phases to her work. Seeing as how so far, three of her Phases have been destroyed (Haven't got any Outbreak information), Morganna could have metamorphed herself into another form, in order to make sure her will was carried. I mean Morganna really is set on her goal, so it makes sense that she would eventually assist one way or another.

They have a .hack Encyclopedia for that, teptep.[/size]

[Zephyr]

I believe that Morganna does not have an actual form. Instead she is just a consciousness within the world. If she is in fact Corbenik, that means that Corbenik is actaully just a shell. It may be possible that Morganna is trapped in one section of he world, and by altering that area she created Cormenik. This would have allowed her to move the area she is trapped in, instead of moving about by herself.

[Hyper]

[size=1]Now that I just beat Mutation, I new idea has occured to me. I belieave that Morganna...could be The World itself. Now I have one main passage to support this, and that is right before you fight Magus. Remember what Helba says? After the glitch thing, she says something that intrigued me.

"I'm not doing anything. It's her."

After Kite asks who [i]her[/i] is, Helba replies that it is the World itself. Now forget about all the mother nature nonsense, and it does make some sense that Morganna could be The World.

As for what I said earlier, I meant not so much a transformation, but more of a deposit ino another entity. Her Phases work for her, but they pretty much act on their own. I think Corbenik is not entirely Morganna, being it a phase. However my theory suggests that Corbenik is filled with more of Morganna's knowledge, data, etc.

The only I thing that puzzles me now, is how Morganna would be trapped in the first place. I'm probably too quick to assume Morganna as the bad girl. >.<[/size]

[AzureWolf]

Hmmm... I don't think Morganna is anything outside of "The World," and I don't think she is the game in its entirety. In other words, I think Morganna is a huge component of "The World," but certainly not an ominous one. If she's "The World," why is she not capable of manipulating Aura like she can any other program piece?

[B]Theory:[/B] I personally think that Harald Hyuek needed Morganna to complete his masterpiece, and I think "The World" was intended to be more than your daddy's game. It obviously is now, but not how Harald had intended. So, Harald, a passionate programmer, discovered a way to get into "The World." When he could not talk sense in Morganna, and when she became a much more volatile program, not allowing Harald to return to the real world, Harald created a last resort cure: Aura. Additionally, Morganna found out about Harald's "Coma" technique :D

[Zephyr]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hyper [/i]
[B][size=1]Now that I just beat Mutation, I new idea has occured to me. I belieave that Morganna...could be The World itself. Now I have one main passage to support this, and that is right before you fight Magus. Remember what Helba says? After the glitch thing, she says something that intrigued me.

"I'm not doing anything. It's her."

After Kite asks who [i]her[/i] is, Helba replies that it is the World itself. Now forget about all the mother nature nonsense, and it does make some sense that Morganna could be The World. [/size][/B] [/QUOTE]


LOL. Yeah, I had thought that too after that scene. The only thing that does not seem to add up there is the fact that Harold said he created Morganna to awaken Aura. This means that Morganna was a seperate entity, and not the world becoming sentient. I now believe that Helba intended the statement to mean that Morganna now controls enough of The World to be considered a major part of it.


[QUOTE][B][size=1]As for what I said earlier, I meant not so much a transformation, but more of a deposit ino another entity. Her Phases work for her, but they pretty much act on their own. I think Corbenik is not entirely Morganna, being it a phase. However my theory suggests that Corbenik is filled with more of Morganna's knowledge, data, etc.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE]


Hmm, do you mean kind of like a back-up of sorts? To ensure her survival Morganna may have placed some of her info in the Phases. All she would need is the info of what she plans to accomplish, so if she were destroyed the back-up would activate, check the progress of things, and continue on with them.


[QUOTE][B][size=1]The only I thing that puzzles me now, is how Morganna would be trapped in the first place. I'm probably too quick to assume Morganna as the bad girl. [/size] [/B][/QUOTE]


Well, Harold said that Morganna was meant to awaken Aura. That means she would be limited to begin with. Since she only has that one purpose she would not need to have a physical form and would have no need to move about.

[Noirrac]

[quote]Harold said that Morganna was meant to awaken Aura.[/quote]
But why would Aura need to be awakened in the first place? Couldn't she just "start out" awake? So Harold probably meant Aura to awaken at a set time or after something happened...if so, what could it be?

In .hack//SIGN Aura is asleep, and in the games she is awake--but is there really any difference between the two points in time?

EDIT: I just looked over my post and I had an idea. It seems like we can blame Morganna for putting Tsukasa in a coma and keeping him in "The World." After all, it seems kind of weird for Morganna to suddenly decide she needs this little wavemaster. It would probably take a while for Morganna to find out that she could use Tsukasa to [spoiler]keep Aura asleep[/spoiler].

Skeith finally appears in the last episode when Aura awakens and Morganna instructs him to "chase Aura." As we all know Skeith--and the other Phases--can data drain people and put them into comas (or at least knock them out).

So, to sum this up, did Aura's awakening cause Morganna to unleash the Phases on people?

[Hyper]

[size=1]No, Morganna sent the Phases after Aura, which caused her to awaken (or at least that's my theory). Skeith was instructed to chase her, and in his pursuit, Aura awoke and fled.[/size]