The Ring

[NashvilleDream]

Has anyone else seen "the ring"?

[instantramen14]

[color=purple] Hmmmm... this should be in the movies forum...o well nothing i can do about it. Yes i have seen the ring it was sooo cool, i loved the cinematography it suited the movie so well , dark and rainy MAN I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!!!! [/color]

[NashvilleDream]

It was FREAKY. The part where the girl comes outta the TV...

[instantramen14]

[color=purple] I laughed because i kney that guy was going to get it (it scared me alittle but hey why wouldnt it?)

[Guest Kagome831]

The ring rules Samara is the creepeist li'l girl

[Sniglefager]

I just saw it a couple weeks ago, but I just don't really understand the ending (I never do in scary movies). Oh well, I suppose I could always watch it again.

[Guest spiderham]

The ring was kinda stupid no offence to the people who liked it but it was stupid

[Guest Kagome831]

Hmmmmmmmmph that is so not right

[Patronus]

[size=1][color=700000][b]Everyone is allowed to their opinion, Kagome, and you should respect it.

Anyways, I believe The Ring is one of the scariest movies out there. Final Destination and Final Destination 2 top it, but it's up there.

Leh[/b][/color][/size]

[Guest Kagome831]

:( I am sorry but I really like that movie but final dest 1 and 2 top it definitly

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kagome831 [/i]
[B]:( I am sorry but I really like that movie but final dest 1 and 2 top it definitly [/B][/QUOTE]

lol. You think the cheaply made, crappy plotted Final Destination flicks outdid The Ring? Well whatever.

The American version of The Ring is far less superior in the plot aspects then the original Japanese counterpart. Ringu's (The Ring in Japanese) plot was far more indepth, leading into the psychy of a person and not just coincidences. It also didn't have Sadako's (Samara) father in it. I suppose anything changed when they made the American version wasn't all too significant, but still there was no need. I'm actious to see what Ring 2 in America will be like, i hear it's an original script and doesn't follow the same ideas as Ringu 2, the Japanese one.

For your information, those of you who don't know, there are 4 Ring movies in Japan. Ringu, Rasen (Spiral - Ringu side story), Ringu 2, and Ringu 0: Birthday (prequel)... You should all watch them, or read the novels. They are very interesting.

[Mist]

[color=crimson][size=1] *Quivers*

I'm tramutized for life...


I couldn't sleep for weeks when I saw the American version. I couldn't, (and still can't, might I add) sleep for monthes after I saw the Japanese version.[/color][/size]

[SadClown]

I thought it was a pretty creepy movie. It definetly wasn't the scariest movie I ever saw, but it was good. I tottaly agree with Transtic Nerve that the Final Destination movies were awful. Any movie that feels it can achieve a good scare level by going overboard on special effects and gore is stupid. It's all about plot that makes a movie scary. When I saw the Japanese version for rent in the movie store and that they had called it "Ringu" I almost wet my pants. They could not have made the tittle for it more corney. It makes us seem culturally ignorant.

[wrist cutter]

I saw "The Ring" in the theater and it scared the living crap out of me. Had to sleep with my closet light on for a week.

Transtic convinced me at one point to watch Ring 2 with him... I mostly just watched it for Kyoko Fukada hehe. He had to hold my hand the whole movie though.

[Semjaza]

Final Destination sucks. The sequel is surprisingly good though, so don't just dismiss it if you've not seen it.

I saw both versions of the Ring. I can't say I was overly impressed with either. I found some of the stuff in Ringu to be totally ridiculous honestly. The last parts seemed so rushed and goofy. "Oh. By the way... I have ESP! Time to cram nearly everything important in the backstory of the important characters into 5 minutes!" I'm exaggerating, but the pacing of the movie was just off.

Good movies. Not something I plan on seeing again. I fail to see what was so amazing or scary about it. I think it's mostly that thriller/horror movies simply suck lately. There's nothing to compare it to other than teeny-bopper crap.

[James]

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In truth, I could look at these movies ([i]especially[/i] The Ring) and point out all of the plotholes. The Ring in particular had many of them. It borrowed elements from Ring and Ring 2 and then sort of put a slightly different spin on them.

For example, the bit where the girl walks past the TV in the hospital, with the partition there...that was actually taken directly from Ring 2. Only, Ring 2 did it a lot better. Ring 2 explored things in a little more depth.

Basically, I enjoyed The Ring for two reasons. Firstly, I liked to see the unique take that Gore Verbinski took. I liked the story behind the ranch and the horses and so on. I think that added something worthwhile. But more importantly, I liked the visuals. It was a stunning piece of graphic design. There were many visual subtleties everywhere...and the general visual style was very cool. That's really the main reason I enjoyed it. It was fun to watch.

As for the Japanese movies...I wouldn't necessarily call them better, I'd call them "different". Ring 2 especially goes a lot further when it comes to the explanation of certain things. It explains why Katie's friend is all freaked out by seeing her die (the Japanese equivalents of Katie and her friend, that is). And it actually [i]shows[/i] Katie's friend walking into her bedroom just after Sadako kills her. It's a very weird scene (all done in black and white)...and it's very effective. It shows how Sadako really transmitted the terror to that girl, without the girl even needing to watch the tape.

Tony, in terms of what you said about ESP...I'm not sure what you are referring to. Are you talking about Yoichi's mother? She didn't have ESP. The movie wasn't implying that.

Although, I do feel that the Japanese version solved things too neatly at the end. The American version was a [i]little[/i] more realistic in that regard.

However, I will say one thing. Ring 2 makes up for it. It makes up for that ending because it expands beyond it in several important ways. And you soon realize that the whole "copying it" thing goes a lot deeper.

Also, I just saw Ring 0 a little while ago. It's good, but unless you're really into these movies...you'll find it boring. It does show how Sadako became evil. In fact, there's an interesting twist to that. Don't read the spoiler unless you want further info.

[spoiler]There is more than one Sadako. The evil Sadako is locked in a cell in her family home...but she escapes. The father kills the "good" Sadako and the evil one returns to the house and goes on a killing spree of sorts...if that's what you'd call it. It sounds cliche, but you've got to actually watch the movie to see what I mean. They put an interesting twist on the whole idea.[/spoiler]

But yeah, they're a good series of movies. Different from the books on which they're based...but nonetheless, very interesting. And very effective. I haven't come across another "horror idea" as chilling as the whole Sadako story. It's very tragic and frightening at the same time. The movies definitely shouldn't be dismissed based on some plotholes. I could dismiss almost any movie on that basis. And let's face it...horror movies often do contain some inconsistencies or something of that nature. These movies are made more for enjoyment of visuals and atmosphere, as opposed to serious plot (although it does exist, if you want to explore the other Ring movies).

On a final and less rambly note...they'll be making a "The Ring 2". A sequel to the American movie. I wonder what they'll do with that one.[/color]

[Semjaza]

[spoiler]I'm talking about the ex-husband.They go to meet Sadako's father (or whatever), and suddenly he has some sort of psychic ability when there was absolutely nothing leading up to the idea that he did. I just found that whole idea rather ridiculous. This also lets them somehow magically know exactly where to find her later on.[/spoiler]

Ring 2 has the same director as the first, which is good. They're not basing it on Ringu 2, which apparently is a good thing from what I hear.

[James]

[color=#707875]You mean The Ring 2 has the same director? Gore Verbinski? If that's the case, I think it's a good thing. I would want the sequel to maintain consistency with the first movie.

In terms of Ring 2, there were definitely complaints that it was trying to do too much. In some ways, that's true. But I think that Ring 2 actually has an even more tragic ending than the first movie. I do recommend watching Ring 2, if you get the chance. It's worthwhile.

In regard to your spoiler...

[spoiler]Could you be a bit more specific? I don't remember. They meet the caretaker of Sadako's father's old estate. That's where the family lived when they "escaped" from the media in the city. Although I can't quite remember what happened to Shizuko (Sadako's mother). It's been a while since I've seen the movie. I think Shizuko just ended up going crazy...and then her lover (the father) murdered Sadako as a result.

But I digress. When you spoke about the father's psychic ability, can you describe a scene where we see that? I think I know what you might be talking about, but I think there is another explanation.[/spoiler][/color]

[Semjaza]

[spoiler]I can't really get any more specific. When they go meet the father, the ex-husband basically right out says he has these powers. He grabs the old man's arm and suddenly you see all these memories and scenes from the past. There's no way it's anything but ESP or psychic abilities.

The movie also seems to imply that they find the well due to this guys powers as well... especially considering how suddenly they find it with no indication of them even knowing the area beforehand.[/spoiler]

And yeah, some director for Ring 2 as in Ring.

[James]

[spoiler]Oh, okay. I remember that scene. It reminds me of the scene in "The Ring", where Rachel falls into the well and picks up Samara's dead body. Upon doing so, she is shown how Samara died (in The Ring, Samara is murdered by Anna, her mother).

In terms of the ex-husband, I know what you mean. Ring 2 explains this in a little more detail, particularly in terms of Yoichi. You'll remember that in The Ring, the little boy is psychic (although they never really delve into this area for any real purpose in the movie). This is based on Yoichi from Ring 2. In the first Ring, we don't get much impression of the son being psychic. But in Ring 2, Yoichi almost takes on Sadako's own persona. The point is that, like Shizuko and Sadako, Yoichi has inherited his father's psychic abilities.

I tend to agree with you that the father's psychic ability seems rather sudden. However, it's also worth noting that anyone who comes into contact with the tape is automatically "infected" by Sadako/Samara. Sadako uses the tape not only as a device with which to kill -- but she also uses it as a way of "showing" victims certain things before they die. In this case, she shows the ex-husband her death. And she shows the scene where the reporters accused her mother of being a fraud. The same thing happens in The Ring. Rachel is not psychic, but she does exprience visions as a result of the tape. Everyone who was around Samara also experienced visions; even the psychiatrist on Moesko Island.

In Ring 2, the ex-husband's assistant visits the psychiatric hospital where Tomoko's friend is located (Tomoko is the girl who died at the start of Ring). When Tomoko walks past the TV with the partition between them, she steps away from it and approaches the TV. As she does so, the TV begins to scramble...and the tape starts to play at the final scene, with the field and the well. Sadako begins to emerge from the well and as she does so, all of the patients go crazy. Sadako never exists the TV, however. The TV goes static again and the normal broadcast returns. Tomoko's friend is then found in the corner of the room, trembling. She reaches out to the ex-husband's assistant and asks for help...when the assistant touches her hand, she sees a vision of what Tomoko's friend saw when she walked in on Sadako murdering the friend. In the same way, the ex-husband saw visions when he touched the caretaker's arm. [/spoiler]

[NashvilleDream]

I was really stupid, I watched it right before I went to two weeks of overnight camps, and right after the 7 days movie thing, the phone rang.

[Patronus]

[size=1][color=700000][b]I seriously doubt that. You would of had to of documented when you first saw the video on the Ring, then would have to of have known it had been exactly seven days.

Anyways, the Ringu is very interesting-looking. Are there any versions any English?

Leh[/b][/color][/size]

[James]

[color=#707875]I'm not sure if there are any dubbed versions or anything...but you can buy the DVDs with English subtitles.[/color]

[Marik_Duelist]

the Japanese version is scariest, you know, the American version is based on it. there are two other ring films, a sequel and a prequel that came afterwards

[James]

[color=#707875]Yeah, we kinda already established that. o_O;;

I actually think that some people will find the American version scarier. Especially younger kids.

The Japanese one is more unnerving though...Sadako is much more scary than Samara. The bit where she [spoiler]comes out of the TV[/spoiler] is scary when you first watch it. Much, much moreso than the American version.[/color]