Lies! All Lies!

[Manic Webb]

[BEGIN: Pathetic excuse to turn a "I need help with personal issues" thread into a general discussion that everyone can relate to]

So, does anybody here have a friend or relative you believe may be lying to you about an important part of their life?

[Oh yeah. Very subtle.] :rolleyes:

Like, is there somebody who tells you about something over and over, but you don't believe them? You have no proof it's a lie, but you're just convinced that it is for whatever reason?

For example, I have this friend (let's call him "Kenshin"). Kenshin has claimed, for nearly 2 years, that he has a girlfriend (let's call her "Usagi.") None of "Kenshin's" friends (including me) have ever seen this "Usagi" girl he talks about. Whenever I go over to "Kenshin's" house, his siblings never mention any girlfriend. "Kenshin" claims to talk to her on the phone, but he never thinks the phone might be for him when it rings. "Kenshin" says he went to our senior prom with "Usagi", but none of us saw them there. "Usagi" went to a different high school, so we never got the chance to see her back when we were in school together. "Kenshin" has been bringing "Usagi" up less and less in conversation, now that I've been talking to "Kenshin's" siblings a lot more.
So should I confront "Kenshin" about whether or not his girlfriend exists, or should I leave things be and hope the truth reveals itself in time?

But that situation is entirely beside the point of this thread. Really.

Do you know someone who you think may be lying to you?

[Guest Forbidden One]

[color=blue]I've known people in the past that have lied, and I'm pretty sure I will know people in the future that do since it seems to be part of nature for an odd reason. As for your situation, perhaps you should just leave it alone for now, and just let things be.

You have to ask yourself is it really worth losing a friend over. From the situation it seems like everyone around him doesn't believe him so why make more of a federal case out of it then it has to be?

That's just my two sense though.....chances are he just said he had one to not be chastized which in his case is pretty sad since it will just bring about more chastizing.[/color]

[James]

[color=#707875]I can't think of a situation like this one in my own life. But, in this case...I think one of three scenarios exist. Either Kenshin has a girlfriend and for whatever reason, he doesn't want you to meet her. Or, he's gay and doesn't want you to know. Or, he is simply embarassed by not having a girlfriend. o_O

I don't know whether this is something that should be chased up or not, though. I mean...in a way, I'm inclined to say "it's nobody's business but his...so don't worry about it."

However, what you've mentioned seems like quite an extreme case to me. Perhaps there [i]is[/i] a more serious problem that he is hiding. It's really hard to say. <_<[/color]

[Dragon Fou Lu]

i know several people that lie about their life, i think it's to try impress others, but i'm not entirely sure.

some lies are harmless but others aren't.

Good Lie: one of my friends and i fell out and another friend of ours told some good lies to try and make us forgive each other :)

Bad Lie: another friend of mine said i wasn't allowed in his house because his dad was in a bad mood, next day i found out that another friend had arrived after i had left and was allowed in.

those are a few examples of the lies i have been told, some for better, some for worse. :(

[KittyLynn]

[color=dodgerblue][size=1]Firstly, I'd like to say that nemises' post didn't make sense. But thats beside the matter..

I know people who have lied about having girlfriends and boyfriends before. People always lie about their lives. Even though maybe you should confront him, I want to quote what James said and say,"Its nobody's business but his. So don't worry about it".

As some people know, my mom was hospitalized a few months ago, for something "unknown". Well she's going back for "surgery". Everytime I ask her why she is going "under the knife", she always gives a worried look at my step dad. And she always talks about all these tests she's had to take and ...MRI's...She "says" its nothing. I think she's got cancer..

-A worried Kitten[/color][/size]

[future girl]

i know this guy who lied about having sex on a bus. he used to be my very close friend but then we had a falling out and we're barely aquaintances now. the reason i know he lied was because our mutual friend steve was sitting next to him on the bus and says they were together the whole time and that nothing happened. also, i know what it's like when he lies, and it just seems like such a well crafted lie, too flawless to be true, i guess you could say. so yup he's a liar *nods*

i think you should just let him live his lie, in the end he hurts no one with it and it really is no one elses business.

[GotenksSSJ343]

Well most of the time it's my frined saying he's watching his cousin nobody is aloud in then the next day it turns out alot of people were there. And junk like that.


Anyway like alot of people have said it's Kenshins business and it's his lie and what you don't know can't hurt you. I guess.

[Jubei Yagyou]

lots of my friends lie or use to lie to me to impress me. Maybe he is trying to impress you or something. I would ask to talk to Usagi and get a prom picture.

[Harry]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Manic [/i]
[B][BEGIN: Pathetic excuse to turn a "I need help with personal issues" thread into a general discussion that everyone can relate to]

So, does anybody here have a friend or relative you believe may be lying to you about an important part of their life?

[Oh yeah. Very subtle.] :rolleyes:

Like, is there somebody who tells you about something over and over, but you don't believe them? You have no proof it's a lie, but you're just convinced that it is for whatever reason?

For example, I have this friend (let's call him "Kenshin"). Kenshin has claimed, for nearly 2 years, that he has a girlfriend (let's call her "Usagi.") None of "Kenshin's" friends (including me) have ever seen this "Usagi" girl he talks about. Whenever I go over to "Kenshin's" house, his siblings never mention any girlfriend. "Kenshin" claims to talk to her on the phone, but he never thinks the phone might be for him when it rings. "Kenshin" says he went to our senior prom with "Usagi", but none of us saw them there. "Usagi" went to a different high school, so we never got the chance to see her back when we were in school together. "Kenshin" has been bringing "Usagi" up less and less in conversation, now that I've been talking to "Kenshin's" siblings a lot more.
So should I confront "Kenshin" about whether or not his girlfriend exists, or should I leave things be and hope the truth reveals itself in time?

But that situation is entirely beside the point of this thread. Really.

Do you know someone who you think may be lying to you? [/B][/QUOTE]
I guess what I"m wondering is why does it matter? I mean it doesn't affect you in anyway at all. I seriously doubt he's doing this to make you feel bad since that'd be kinda hard to do. Or like James said, he's gay.

[eleanor]

[size=1] ::tries to picture Kenshin and Usagi together::

Ahem.

Anyways, I think your friend is only trying to impress other people. Maybe he feels insignificant and unimportant, and merely made up this fact. ::shrugs:: You should sit down and have a talk with him or at least force him to tell the truth, lol. I'm guessing a lot of people that go to your school are going out or whatever, so he feels embarrased.

If he really does have a girlfriend [which I seriously doubt from what you wrote].....maybe he's afraid some perv will molest her or something. ::laughs and then shuts up quickly:: There's a possibility that he's gay, and he's trying to hide it by saying he has a girlfriend? I believe that it's a slim chance even though it's possible.[/size]

[Justin]

Ah, sure. I used to lie all the time before I got saved. To start with, it was just a fascade to impress(both others and myself). Then I lost interest in it, but kept it up just so others wouldn't think less of me.

Then I got saved, and had to stop. I remember it was particularly bad here, because I pretended to be an entirely different person than I actually was, and then had to tell everyone who I really was.

He's probably just embarrassed about not having one. If I were you, I'd just let it fade from coversation. He'll probably admit to eventually anyway, and your friendship will be much better off.

-Justin

[Delian]

Give me one person who has never told a lie and I will be trully impressed!!...Honestly, everyone tells white lies. I suggest you let this go...If anything, he'll feel annoyed and embarassed about you asking him regardless of whether his relationship existed or not.

[Ryan]

[color=darkblue][size=1][b]

Maybe, Kenshin feels left out and made up Usagi to feel better and to make everyone else think that he is part of the crowd. Or there could be a lot of other reasons. Whatever it is, I think you should leave it alone and don't mention it. He is obviously hiding something and he isn't ready yet to come out with it, so I think you should let him come out with whatever he is hiding on his own.[/size][/b][/color]

[RicoTranzrig]

[COLOR=darkblue]Heh, your example sounds like someone we know...nickname starts with an "M." Real name starts with a "T."

I know I've been lied to before because some stories are just too outrageous to be true. Right now, I'm don't really care if they do lie or not because the truth comes out sooner or later and it's embarassing to them. More often, a some people I know have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, hiding things even though what they have to say is important like if someone's in the hospital or they have something pressing them, but they don't want to tell.

I guess it's not as bad as lying.[/COLOR]

[Stitch]

my best friend told me she had sex with this guy i kow but i don't belive her because one she is kinda young and 2 i was in the house with her when she supposedly did it.... she told me they did it while i was taking a shower.... which is like about 3 mins long cuz i can't stand water and then when i came out she was walking down the hall with piece of toast....
stitch

and yes you should definatly confront your friend about lying because if you don't you be wondering forever!

[Demonic Angel]

I know lots of people who lied to me. I also know that most of my friends are liars. I know them very well, and They know that I am very observant to them only, because they knew that I know that they lie too much about themselves. I don't really much believe in them. I only know they tell the truth by looking how they really act and i can see it in their eyes that they are not lying to me.

[Guest Fly-T]

READ MY ADVICE!!!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Manic [/i]
[B][BEGIN: Pathetic excuse to turn a "I need help with personal issues" thread into a general discussion that everyone can relate to]

So, does anybody here have a friend or relative you believe may be lying to you about an important part of their life?

[Oh yeah. Very subtle.] :rolleyes:

Like, is there somebody who tells you about something over and over, but you don't believe them? You have no proof it's a lie, but you're just convinced that it is for whatever reason?

For example, I have this friend (let's call him "Kenshin"). Kenshin has claimed, for nearly 2 years, that he has a girlfriend (let's call her "Usagi.") None of "Kenshin's" friends (including me) have ever seen this "Usagi" girl he talks about. Whenever I go over to "Kenshin's" house, his siblings never mention any girlfriend. "Kenshin" claims to talk to her on the phone, but he never thinks the phone might be for him when it rings. "Kenshin" says he went to our senior prom with "Usagi", but none of us saw them there. "Usagi" went to a different high school, so we never got the chance to see her back when we were in school together. "Kenshin" has been bringing "Usagi" up less and less in conversation, now that I've been talking to "Kenshin's" siblings a lot more.
So should I confront "Kenshin" about whether or not his girlfriend exists, or should I leave things be and hope the truth reveals itself in time?

But that situation is entirely beside the point of this thread. Really.

Do you know someone who you think may be lying to you? [/B][/QUOTE]

The guy's basically frontin'.....[B].....I don't think you should confront him.....I think you should interrogate him about Usagi to where a point he just gets caught in his lie(if he doesn't really have one)...That way you won't be leting him know you're ON to him......[/B] ......This cat i know claims he be fuc*in at least 3x's a week(but we know the dude still a virgin, but then again he only 15). I think you should hook him up with a REAL girl...
Holla at cha boi

[eleanor]

[size=1] You shouldn't interrogate your friend, just have a coversation with him. [/size]

[Guest Fly-T]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i]
[B][size=1] You shouldn't interrogate your friend, just have a coversation with him. [/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

When i say interrogate i dont mean by throwin him into a chair and puttin him on spotlight....ask him like it's out of curiosity
Let me be more cryptic about it....

Ask him questions like
What does she look like?
How old is she?
How did yall meet?
What color hair she have?
Where she live?
Can we meet her?
Can I talk to her?
When you call her tell her to call you back please?

[Ryan]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fly-T [/i]
[B]When i say interrogate i dont mean by throwin him into a chair and puttin him on spotlight....ask him like it's out of curiosity
Let me be more cryptic about it....

Ask him questions like
What does she look like?
How old is she?
How did yall meet?
What color hair she have?
Where she live?
Can we meet her?
Can I talk to her?
When you call her tell her to call you back please? [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=darkblue][size=1][b]

If you think it is something serious he is hiding then yes, ask these questions. You probably will get through him and find out the truth.[/color][/size][/b]

[Syk3]

I have a friend that's amazing at lieing. He does it a lot, so we can catch him sometimes, but when this guy lies, he keeps a straight face and everything. I have this idea that when his face isn't serious, he's making himself laugh or whatever; he seems to have no feelings at all. o.o' It's really funny to watch him lie when you know he's lieing, and in a case like this, he can easily pull off having a girlfriend. I was kind of confused when he got caught with alcohol in school, since I would have thought he would have completely denied it and come up with a crazy excuse.

At the moment, I don't have anyone that I suspect of lieing about a particular thing. For your situation, Manic, it may be a good idea to ask a few questions about this girl. Not too many, or he would probably realize you don't believe him about his gf, and don't come right out and ask him if he really has this gf and risk your friendship. Best let him admit it himself, and otherwise don't worry about it. Let him hide behind this "gf" if he's so desperate to do so.

[Wintermute]

I actuallydo virtually never lie any more, anything more than 'Are you ok?' 'Yes' when I can't be bothered explaining the 5000 page epic as to what's upsetting me _this_ time.

But yes, asking to see photos does sound like a good idea. Either that or stop caring. I know that sounds flippant, but ultimately does it matter? I have to say there does sound to be more than a slim chance that he's gay, and is using this as an excuse to not have to have to have much to do with girls on an intimate level. Of course, you know this guy much (much much much) better than I do, so use your own judgement.

[Marik_Duelist]

he probably wanted not to seem sad and stupid with no girl friend

[lea]

maybe he does, maybe he doesnt...but, if he doesnt, maybe he feels insecure....maybe he has low self esteem, and thinks that if people think he has a gf, that he must mean somthing to somone. in my opinion, you should just let the matter alone, its up to him if he wants to confess, or really show you his gf

[Defcon5]

I have a friend who lies and exagerates about the most trivial things. It's starting to bug the crap outta me. My advice is if this is the only thing he's lying about then just ignore it.

Although mabye he doesn't want you to meet her. The said friend above, if I can help it, won't be spending much time with or talking to my next girlfriend (That is if I'm still friends with him) due to the fact that one of his lies ended my last two relationships.