Patronus Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1][color=575757][b]Mainly, this is for fellow Wiccans who have revealed their religion, but it isn't ignoring everyone else. You see, I'm a Wiccan, but I come from a Christian family. (Ask Shaun, he knows) My mom is totally a Christian, and maily everyone else shows the faith. As that, mostly everyone believes that Wicca is like Satanism, which is totally is not. My mom really has that stuck in her mind, so she'll probably be the last I come out to. My grandmother is probably going to accept it, and I know my sister is. But... How do I tell them? It's going to be hard, I know. So, what should I do? *dodges pitchforks* I know y'all are annoyed by all these "I need help" threads, but hey, I'm special. ^_______________^ Leh[/b][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Maybe there's a good book about it here [url]http://www.twpt.com/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 I'm not wiccan, and I don't know anything about the religion, but I say just go for it. Just come clean. If your family/friends/whoever you tell really cares about you, they'll understand. But if not,then tell them they must not really care about you and then leave. If that doesn't work, explain it to them. What it is, what you take part in, and what it isn't. I wish I could offer more help, but I would need to know more about your religion and current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Samedi Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Nah, these kind of threads aren't overly annoying. I don't know how you would do it, but i would try to lead gently into it. Mention it at dinner sometime, so one of your friends is doing it... ask what she thinks of it... ask what she would think if you joined it... If she chucks a spaz ask why she thinks it is so bad... counter her arguments with ones that your 'friend' has put up..... Try to lead into it like that. That seems like the most logical way to go about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 I really have to go with Bush on this one. I mean, I applaud you for searching for the right religion, but are you sure Wicca is the way to go? It may just have what you like to hear (isn't the phrase "no harm, no problem," or something?), but does that really constitute the right religion? Are you really Wiccan? Can you say you have no doubt, and this religion is THE religion? I know most can't say that, but how big is your doubt? You're a teenager, and I think everyone should do a little "soul searching" at that time in their life, if not earlier. However, don't be lazy and go to a religion that just sounds good. I say don't make your parents and family go through that pain unless you are truly a Wiccan. Besides, they have religious dominance over you if you are less than 18. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted August 17, 2003 Author Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1][color=575757][b]What makes you say this? It certainly sounds like you're coming from a Christianity view point, and that is [i]not[/i] what I need. And I am sure I am a Wiccan. Leh[/b][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Well, I'm 11, have no religion. But I still say just come clean, and if they don't except it explain it's not satinism or something like that, and if that doesn't work, just guilty 'em up a little.^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1]I think the point is, don't "come out" if you're not 300% sure that your beliefs won't change, because it will cause a lot of undue troubles.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted August 17, 2003 Author Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1][color=575757][b]Ah, it just sounded like something I've heard before. I've been interested in Wicca for over two years now, and have devoted myself just recently. Leh[/b][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Like I said, just come clean. Hold on to your beliefs and come clean. I have no religion and no one bugs me about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted August 17, 2003 Author Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1][color=575757][b]This is an entirely different matter. Wicca is looked upon as Satan worshiping, and undemoninational followers don't have that problem. Leh[/b][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Just to speak from a Biblical perspective, Satanism is no worse than anything else. Either way, your punishment is the same. One sin is ultimately equal to all others. Now, I do agree with Sara(and whoever said it first); if you're not completely sure of yourself, don't say anything. It'll bring undue hardship to your family. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Just explain that as soon as you tell them. I personally don't think less or more of someone based on their beliefs. I find church useless, as you just listen to a guy read the bible(I think. Never been in one), so why not do it at home? But that's just me. But like I said, just make it clear your not worshipping stan or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 You know, it's odd....you tell people what your problem is, but they don't get it....now, rather than getting advice on how to explain to your family that you're a Wiccan, you're having to defend your decision in front of the board. It's sad that it turned into that. I'm not Wiccan, (and telling anyghing about my religious beliefs would be spam in this thread....take note, people!), but it seems to me it would be like telling your family anything they'd find unplesant. Just find a good situation and tell them. I'd tell your mom first; save the people who wouldn't have much of a problem for last. If you think she'll misunderstand the religion, have a set way of proving that it's not Satanic, at the very least. If your family loves you, they won't care that much. They might act all wierd for a while, and might never agree with you on that point, but I really don't see it destroying your relationship or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 No one is trying to change his decision. I'm just trying to give him advice on telling his family about it without them overreacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by yalborap [/i] [B]No one is trying to change his decision. I'm just trying to give him advice on telling his family about it without them overreacting. [/B][/QUOTE] Don't worry; I'm not referring to you. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Right I don;t mean this to sound patronising, but I think you should wait a few years. I'm 17 now, but when I look back on the things I really fervently believed in when I was 14, I cringe. I really did believe them at the time. So wait a while yet, theres no need to cause any problems if you may not still be doing this in 3 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted August 17, 2003 Author Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1][color=575757][b]I don't think my religion will change that easliy. I had been studying Wicca two years before I became one. That's noo likely to change. Leh[/b][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Well you know your own mind better than me, I'm sure. Probably best just to tell them, but have a speech worked out on how it's not satanism first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valen Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AzureWolf [/i] [B]I really have to go with Bush on this one. I mean, I applaud you for searching for the right religion, but are you sure Wicca is the way to go? It may just have what you like to hear (isn't the phrase "no harm, no problem," or something?), but does that really constitute the right religion?[/B][/QUOTE] Nope (^_^') but close... tis 'An harm ye none, do what ye will.' Meaning, that as long as you don't send negative energy their way (ill thoughts, threats, etc.), and you don't screw around with their free will (thus why "love spells" are looked down upon by Wiccans that follow the rede), then do what ye will. Leh, all ya gotta do is sit the 'rental* units down, talk to them, get them in a good mood. That's the first step. Next step would be to gently bring in Wicca, the belief system, what really goes on with it, etc. Wait for them to become comfortable with it, then [b]slowly[/b] show subtle hints that you've chosen Wicca. Once they finally catch on, then tell them. That's the easiest, but longest way of telling the 'rentals. * denotes "parental units", aka, Rentals. BWehehehe... Blessed Be, and good luck Leh. -Loki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 leh, i fyou ever find out a way. . . let me know. i think it is awful how you people have turned his cry for help into his having to defend himself. being wiccan is in NO way like Satanism. its not like "calling up demons to do your evil bidding" its about your belief in the REAL Craft. not this crappy image of ugly witches dancing naked by the moon. and it is in NO WAY the same as satanism. These two religions have entirely different beliefs about deity, different rules for ethical behavior, different expectations from their membership, different views of the universe, different seasonal days of celebration, etc. Wiccans do not recognize an all-evil deity like Satan; he belongs to Christianity and Islam. they are soo much different. Leh if i were you i would just go ahead and tell people. you have obviously thought about this since you have been studying for 2 years. i would tell someone who will react in a positive way first so that you know at least 1 person won't condemn you for your beliefs. i would sit my mom down and first start out explaining Wicca. maybe you could print out essays of the internet, since some of them are highly enlightening, and give them to her. i highly doubt your mom will want to lose her child over a matter as silly as religeon. but talk to her. that is the only way this can be solved good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Now just mix all the advice togethor, tweak, and voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AzureWolf [/i] [B]I really have to go with Bush on this one. I mean, I applaud you for searching for the right religion, but are you sure Wicca is the way to go? It may just have what you like to hear (isn't the phrase "no harm, no problem," or something?), but does that really constitute the right religion? Are you really Wiccan? Can you say you have no doubt, and this religion is THE religion? I know most can't say that, but how big is your doubt? You're a teenager, and I think everyone should do a little "soul searching" at that time in their life, if not earlier. However, don't be lazy and go to a religion that just sounds good.[/quote][/b] Are you sure Christianity is the right way to go? Have you explored other religions before you chose this one, or did you just pick it randomly? Has God came down to you personaly and told you all of this? Are you sure Christianity is THE religion? Don't be lazy and just go to this religion that everyone else and their mother has. Maybe you should do some soul searching before you go around telling other people what to do. [quote][b]I say don't make your parents and family go through that pain unless you are truly a Wiccan. Besides, they have religious dominance over you if you are less than 18. :) [/B][/QUOTE] If they love him, they will accept him. If they don't accept him, they truely don't love him. Thats how it works, if only people of OTHER religions could use their minds to figure that one out. And no, No one has any religious authority over anyone in this country. Your parents have the power to make you go to church, but they certainly don't have the power to make you believe in anything you don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 [size=1] ::applauds for T_N:: I'm Athiest and my mother is a devoted Christian. ::shrugs:: In fact, I have [i]not[/i] told my family about this, and I don't plan to until I'm 18...or whenever the time is right. It sounds stupid, I know, but I just feel that our family is going through enough troubles as it is. But to Leh, I suggest that you tell them when you're ready. Like Transtic Nerve said, if your family loves you, they will accept you for who you are or learn to. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Precisely. I know I understand that each person chooses their beliefs, but not many others are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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