Tae Kwon Do

[lea]

i read somewhere it was really hard to learn...and it takes a lot longer to learn than alot of other maritial arts....

[Zanshin]

Spike is a JKD artist, his references of the art's philosophy can be seen in Waltz for Venus, when he is teaching Roco. As for the art itself, it really isn't a tangible art per se. It's more like a path... I could type for a while but I'd rather spare you all from the ranting.

[The Harlequin]

[font=gothic][color=indigo]Well, I did Zen Do Kai karate for a few years, acheived a brown belt (one below black), and now do Zenith Tae Kwon Do, an ITF organisation. I'm [i]technically[/i] only a green belt, I spend all my time sparring against at least a blue belt, black tip when possible. So hey, experience helps.

And DBD, if you think Kung Fu is not a martial art, then I really, really recommend you spar against someone who's done it for a few years. Allow me merely to say, it hurts. A lot.

As for weaponry...Well, my Tae Kwon Do doesn't use weapons, but we used bo staves and sais in karate, and I can also use tonfas and kamas. [/font][/color]

[Meteora]

[color=666666][size=1][i]About the weapons part. When we become old enough, and experienced enough he lets us pick a weapon, and he tells us how to use it. I want to learn how to use a staff. So thats my choice for a weapon.[/color][/size][/i]

[Vicky]

[SIZE=1][I] Yeah, I've done Tae Kwon-Do for years. I'm a black DanII. Tae Kwon-do is brilliant. I love it! No kid will dare touch me in school...unless there want to get battered. I once got into a fight, and wan'da you know? I was the only one standing.

Gradeing for any kind of 'Dan' is hard...very hard...I failed once on my first Dan, then pasted twice. I've been doing it forever.

The whole meaning of Tae Kwon-do is about 'Self-control'. Do you say the thing before you start? the pattern of words that Tae Kwon-Do is about? Well Self-Control is one of them.[/I][/SIZE]

[Meteora]

[color=666666][size=1][i]Yep that was one of the main reasons I joined it. I still have no self control when it comes to anger but im getting better at controling it though. Still thats true about everything you said except the fight thing. Cuz I wasn't there so I cant sayif thats true or not, but I'll go with your word.[/color][/size][/i]

[Zen]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Harlequin [/i]
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And DBD, if you think Kung Fu is not a martial art, then I really, really recommend you spar against someone who's done it for a few years. Allow me merely to say, it hurts. A lot.

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I never said it wasn't a martial art. I meant that it was the word used for martial arts in china. Kung Fu it self isn't a martial art, but Wing CHun, Shaoilin Boxing, and etc. are types of Kung Fu. Mabye i'm jsut bein to technical.

As for you who said JKD was a hard martia lart to learn, here this, Jeet Kune Do translates to the Way of the Interceoting Fist. It is not a martial art, but a way of thinking that one may apply to martial arts. It means that you should not be restricted to one martial art and techniques that you do not like or that do not suit you. It means be like, well, a human digestive system. Intake the good and what you like and dispose of the rest and move on to the next martial art. It mean that once you have absorbed something, you cannot forget it. Bruce Lee himself practiced and too from Wing Chun, then western boxing, the fencing, and then dabbled in other martial arts techniques. He was personally taught some TKD kicks and techniques by Grand Master Rhee. So, in short, JKD is not a martial art, just a martial arts philosphy.

PS- When Spike taught Roko about being like water, he did not use what JKD was teaching. What Bruce Lee beleived is that you should be like water as in water can adapt to any situation. "If water is poured into a cup, it becomes the cup..." Bruce Lee. Thats is what Bruce ment by be like water.

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i]
[B]You know what my Jujutsu masters call it when people use guns in fights, Sharpie? He calls them "Chicken S**T Fights". If you can;t defend yourself, then thats your problem. Techinically, Boxing is a martial art. It is the art of fighting with your fists. YOu learn to box, just as you learn to do TKD or Karate or whatever. So don't be so cowardly as to threaten to shoot an unarmed person. [/B][/QUOTE]

*whipes tears from his eyes after a 5 minute laughing bout* I never knew your masters had such egos! I would hardly consider a master of Jujitsu "unarmed". You guys tout the fact that you have LETHAL powers, and fists of fury, however when someone actually metions evening the playing feild, you call it "chicken ****?"

No offense, but Martial Arts are archaic. Their only merits now lie in the off chance you need to defend yourself, and the values gained from martial arts (discipline, honor, etc). It's so funny watching martial arts movies and watching these kung-fu masters disarm heavily armed guards! :laugh: Honestly people, a 5.57 mm round is going to stop your "Praying Mantis " style , any day.

Think about it, is that any more cowardly than beating the **** out of some guy because he doesn't know Tae Kwan Do? I hate it .. suddenly you expect to walk around all gallant with your Tae Kwan Do inbued fists expecting bar fights to be a cinch, and to be attacked by the "bad guy'. I'll make sure If I'm ever getting into a fight with a Tae Kwan Do master.. I'll take him out from long range preferably.... with some sort of high powered weapon. At least that will even the playing feild to some extent. He has no one to blame but himself for studying an art that is usless against a tiny peice of metal.

[Zen]

Ever think that when learning martial arts that if you use it WITHOUT A LISENCE THAT YOU GO TO JAIL FOR USE OF A DEADLY WEAPON!!! When a martial artisit earns black belt, his body is from then on dubbed a lethal weapon and there for must be legally registered. They wouldn't risk life in prison for using there skills loosely, just like you wouldn't go around shootin people unless as a last resort. Its the same thing. MArtial artist don't start fights, the first thing we learn in a fight is 1. never start a fight, 2. try and avoid fights, and 3. if a fights happens to come your way, NEVER kill your opponent. Using a gun is not 'leveling the playing feild', its using a weapon that takes absoltuely no effort to kill with. If a person challenges a martial artist to a fight, its there fault if they get the living hell beatn out of them, instead of acting as an adult. My point stands.

Only cowards use guns in fights that they start.

PS- the guy that said that wasn't teaching a class, he's a guy my dads freinds with and he teaches me Goshin Karate, in which he is a third degree black belt in, and i really beleive him.

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i]
[B]Ever think that when learning martial arts that if you use it WITHOUT A LISENCE THAT YOU GO TO JAIL FOR USE OF A DEADLY WEAPON!!! When a martial artisit earns black belt, his body is from then on dubbed a lethal weapon and there for must be legally registered. Its the same thing. MArtial artist don't start fights, the first thing we learn in a fight is 1. never start a fight, 2. try and avoid fights, and 3. if a fights happens to come your way, NEVER kill your opponent. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah.. I know when I learn how to fight.. it's to avoid fighting.. *cough* But you further my point, if a martial artist starts a fight (let's admit it please.. there are some pretty stupid people out there.. some of them HAVE to be martial artists some way or another), then anyone who doesn't know the martial arts is put at a disadvantage... so they have to use their own form of "equalizer" a gun.. or a bat.. it's all to save your ***. Patton said, "The objective of war isn't to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his." This applies well enough in the small skirmished wher "dying" may not be a factor.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i]
[B]Using a gun is not 'leveling the playing feild', its using a weapon that takes absoltuely no effort to kill with. If a person challenges a martial artist to a fight, its there fault if they get the living hell beatn out of them, instead of acting as an adult. My point stands.[/B][/QUOTE]

It doesn't take much effor to kill someone when highly trained in Martial arts. The only thing I'm saying is that if for some reason it IS the martial artists' fault, then who's to say he does deserve the living **** beat out of him? That's like arguing with a guy who has a concealed weapon.. pulls it out and shoots you. [I] Oh.. it's my fault, I didn't realize he had such an advantage[/I]. Stop Idolizing martial artists.. they aren't perfect.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i]
[B]Only cowards use guns in fights that they start.[/B][/QUOTE]

I really hope you aren't american. You just called every United States soldier a coward more or less. Granted, we didn't start all our fights, some were indirect involvment (german invasion) and others direct (revolutionary war). I've got a suggestion.. think before you speak, oh wise sensei, fists do not suddenly grant your purpose with any more integrity than guns. As I've said before .. up with the times.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Double_B_Daigo [/i]
[B] PS- the guy that said that wasn't teaching a class, he's a guy my dads freinds with and he teaches me Goshin Karate, in which he is a third degree black belt in, and i really beleive him. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I belive your dad's friend.. he's a perfectly reputable reference. Honestly, i don't give a thought to who you talk to, just because he's belt-this or master-that doesn't really make him wiser in the ways of the world. This does nothing to prove your point, quoting usless references.

As I would love to carry this discussion across the boards... I realized the thread started Aug 18th.. you all know better than to drag up dead threads. This thread should've died long ago. You can PM me your repsonse if you want DBD.. but ..

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