Guest pantalaimon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 I know im stepping on thin ice but i don't believe in god but if u do why do u believe in your own god :toothy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dayday Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Excuse me but it is spelled God. I believe in him because it is my own beliefs that I have in my life. It is how I have always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantalaimon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 But its not really why u believe in him is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [color=0099FF][size=1]If there is no 'God', why would you be posting here? I just found it ridiculous how you don't believe in God; he created everything. Sometimes, our eyes can't see everything. And do you have to see him then you would start believing in him?[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dayday Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Thank you Celia. It's the same as if you were blind and couldn't see your mother would you not believe in her. You can not see air either. If it wasn't there then we wouldn't be able to breathe. And I myself have seen many pictures of angels and a picture of a car accident with God and the Devil in it. It is so that you don't always see Him then you don't believe in him. There are many things you can and can't see. Do you still believe in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniglefager Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 I've believed in God all my life, and I know for a fact he exists. Why? Read on. When I was 7, we read some of those weird Arthur books. There was one about Arthur getting the chicken pox. He got to stay home and basically do nothing all day. Now, this was in first grade, and I hated the school I went to. They gave you detentions for talking in the lunchroom (no joke), and you couldn't even run at recess time. So, naturally, I hated it. After I read this Arthur book, I decided it would be fun to get chicken pox. Of course, I didn't know how to cath them, so what did I do? I prayed to God to get chicken pox, lol (yes, I hated that school [i]that[/i]much. Not even two days later, I got the chicken pox, and got to skip er....miss school for 3 weeks. Ever since then I knew there was a God. Coincedence? Maybe, but I belive it was God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantalaimon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 you have almost convinced me thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 The blind following of faith that I encounter far to often makes me sick. Anything that deals with a scientific explanation is automatically rejected and replaced by that little three letter word. [b]God[/b] God is nothing but a way of explaining the things we cannot yet explain. <1500 years ago> "Why is there fire coming from the sky!" "Must be God." It was lightning. Not God. The same thing with Jesus being crucified and rising from the dead. He could have just slipped into some deep coma that lowered his bodily functions. But no one will ever find out. We can't go back in time. And the bible was written by small minded people that couldn't take a step without consutlting God. I would much rather believe in myself than someone I have never seen nor talked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by pantalaimon [/i] [B]you have almost convinced me thanks [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]Ahh...nothing better than a person that holds strong to their convictions...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKC Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Well, I believe in God, but I dont believe in Religion. Mainly because I dont understand much about it. When we go to church I just sort of day dream. Asides, theres so many religions x_x I get confussed and mix them up. I once got Muslim and Hinduism mixed up @_@ I also believe in the Devil too. But There are so many questions not answered in this life... I get really confussed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Celia [/i] [B][color=0099FF][size=1]If there is no 'God', why would you be posting here? I just found it ridiculous how you don't believe in God; he created everything. Sometimes, our eyes can't see everything. And do you have to see him then you would start believing in him?[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1]Will you beleive there's a super-genious Dodo bird playing pro basketball while bringing Albert Einstein back from the dead and even making lasagna at the same time if it's in a book claimed to be written by the avid followers of the Magnificent Dodo Bird? I don't think so. I beleive many Christians just stay avid believers of God since their parents are probably Christian as well. Can you scientifically prove that God exists? I find it ridiculous how you can assume that everybody who doesn't believe in God is automatically a big moron. Why am I posting here? Because I beleive in the Big freaking Bang and the one-celled bacteria that eventually evolved into nice little organisms. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantalaimon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 i like this its good [size=1][color=red]Please improve your post quality. I've asked it a few times now. There's no reason to even make posts like this... - Semjaza[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniglefager Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i] [B] I don't think so. I beleive many Christians just stay avid believers of God since their parents are probably Christian as well. Can you scientifically prove that God exists? [/B][/QUOTE] Actually, there is a scinetific formula that proves that God exists. My friend told me about it last year. I forget where he heard it, but I think it was in a news paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instantramen14 Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i] [B][size=1]Will you beleive there's a super-genious Dodo bird playing pro basketball while bringing Albert Einstein back from the dead and even making lasagna at the same time if it's in a book claimed to be written by the avid followers of the Magnificent Dodo Bird? I don't think so. I beleive many Christians just stay avid believers of God since their parents are probably Christian as well. Can you scientifically prove that God exists? I find it ridiculous how you can assume that everybody who doesn't believe in God is automatically a big moron. Why am I posting here? Because I beleive in the Big freaking Bang and the one-celled bacteria that eventually evolved into nice little organisms. [/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=purple] I totally agree with maladjusted. You can't scientifically prove that god exists but you can frove that air is there. I belive in evolution, nothing big up there controls everything its just it. And when you die, well you're dead. thats it. Wow i sound really cynical... [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantalaimon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 I think i fallen through that ice know and boy is it cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [size=1][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sniglefager [/i] [B]Actually, there is a scinetific formula that proves that God exists. My friend told me about it last year. I forget where he heard it, but I think it was in a news paper. [/B][/QUOTE] I'm going to take a minute and try to beleive this. But I can't. How can there be a formular proving that God exists? I think it would be bigger news that a obscure article in the newspaper/[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniglefager Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i] [B][size=1] I'm going to take a minute and try to beleive this. But I can't. How can there be a formular proving that God exists? I think it would be bigger news that a obscure article in the newspaper/[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah, it is kind of hard to belive, but my friend never lies, ecspecially about this kind of stuff. He's also almost literally a genius, so I belive him. Of course, he could have meant it was in the Enquirer or something, then it wouldn't be true. I should ask him about that next time I see him I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoko T.D.C. Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 I belive in him. I belive in him because if there was no god, then how was the world created? How was your family created? If there was no god the world be like this:--------------------------------------------- Nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyxe Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Well, I believe in God, but I just don't really have a religion. Yes, sometimes I do question if there is a God... but I know there is a God, because whatever made us is our God. That is just the way I put it to myself. I probably have many other reasons for different things why I believe and why I don't. Bleh! That's simply what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [color=0099FF][size=1]I am not 100% Christian, but I still believe there's a creator of this world. I am not saying that if you don't believe in God, you're a moron. But there should be a religion that you believe in, and not denying the presence of God.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 BLEH. Another one of these. [quote]All the kids found out what's missing It's so hard to try to be different And I don't know what it'll add up to be Moses split the sea with the wink of an eye There's a whole lot of people that don't know why I know we're all gonna die So let's believe in something we can't see [/quote] This song basically summarizes up my thoughts on it all... although there is more to the song that adds to it (in fact, it doesn't even go exactly like that... there's an extra line in there). The song is called "Congested" by Apocalypse Hoboken. In any case, I was born Catholic. I was raised Catholic. I went to Catholic schools. I was baptised, confirmed and everything else. For years now, I've had my own thoughts on the subject. I went from agnostic to atheist to what I am now. Everyone questions their belief system at some point, it's human nature. However, I don't force my beliefs on anyone, nor do I like speaking about them in general unless asked. I've combined a lot of things over my life that I think are right and good to follow in a sense. A mix of various other religions and philosophies and my own thoughts over my time reading and studying up on all this stuff. I've gotten the impression from past religion threads that people in general really have very little idea what they are talking about in terms of this stuff. I don't know how you can dismiss something without knowing how it really works. You need to know your "enemy", so to speak. There's a difference between a religion or lifestyle's true core and what others have turned it into. A big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [b]PICKLEBUCKET, I LOVE YOU!!!!![/b] [size=1]*cough* Sorry. Semmy, you did exactly what I was going to do, lol. I freaked ouy when I saw you posted those lyrics. It seems you and I have pretty much been raised the same when when it comes to religion. [color=deeppink]Apocalypse Hoboken Fan Club for life.[/color] Lol. I, too, was born Catholic, raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools (up until sophmore year in high school), moved to more agnostic/athiest beliefs and then just said [b]F[/b] it all. I do not care about any religion or lack there of. I believe what I want to believe. People can call me what they want. I pretty much discard any theological idea from deep though. I shall see what happens when I die, but until then I am just going to do what I want. I do not know, there is not much more I can say after Semmy's post. He pretty much said everything I could say. But just for the sake of it:[quote][b][i]Congested[/i] - Apocalypse Hoboken[/b] I can smell, I can smell your breath from here. Cut you down, Let the words crawl from your mouth. Try this on, We'll call it new age apathy. Push you down, Cause it's the new recipe. All the kids found out what's missing. It's so hard to try to be different, And I don't know what it'll add up to be. Moses split the sea with the wink of an eye. There's a whole lot of people that don't know why. (There's a whole lot of people that are gonna die.) So let's believe in something we can't see. Sniffing dope Can lead to massive atrophy. Interpretation Of one's own apocrypha. Baby's sick, Let's fondle one another. Smash it up, Let's mock one another. Hey God can you hear me? I'd like to try the recipe. It all ends with a little luck.[/quote][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShinje Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 [size=1][QUOTE] [i] Charles Darwin, On the Origin of Species, 6th Ed. ch. 10 para. 1.[/i] [b] Why then, is not every geological formation and every stratum full fo such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvios and serious objection which can be urged against the theory [/b] [/QUOTE] Millions of fossils have been dug up, [b]yet[/b] not one has been the evolutionary link that Darwins theory demands. "I still think that, to the unprejudiced, the fossil records of plants is in favour of special creation. Have you ever heard of the fossilised hat? It's the best example of the young, 6000 year old planet the Bible speaks of. This hat was found about 50 years after the Mt. Tawawera eruption. [img]http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/images/v18/i1/p19_hat.JPG[/img] This is the hat. It was preserved in stone and is now hard as a rock, after only 50 years. It shows how flawed the dating of fossils is if these are the best examples of a evolutionary world. [img]http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/images/v18/i1/p18_flour.JPG[/img] A fossilised bag of flour. This presents Evolutionists with a dillema, did Evolution occur graduallym or did it happen at all? Evolutionary theories are divided as to what exactly happened billions of years ago, with many still clinging to Darwin's graduated theory, and others suggesting Punctuated Evoilution. Jumps and leaps in the evolutionary process that leave no fossil records. Once again, we see how important the fossil links are to the evolutionary theory. I believe in special creation, Because, above evolution's crumbling "facts" (anyone who is objective can see this) Prophecy concerning the end of thw world is rapidly coming into fruition. [b] The working molecule[/b] The working molecule is prehaps the best defense for special creation. Proteins are the basic bulding block molecules for life. A protein is a chain sequence of connected molecules called amoni acids. To work out the chance of getting a sequence correct for the average protein of 200 - 300 amino acids in lengt is we are looking at odds far worse than 1 chance in 1 followed by 300 zeros! For a livign cell to form, survive and to reproduce, we need millions of Identical copies of hundreds of proteins and other complicated molecules. They must be all togehter at the same moment of time and somehow they must gather themselves into a group within a specialized skn called a cell membrane. The probablility of this is all happening is [u] effectively nil.[/u] How about the position of the earth? Isn't god great! Just a few stepa away form it's current position and it's too cold for life to survive, just a few steps closer to the sun, and it's too hot for life to survive. [b] This is an example of delicate, inquisite design![/b] People are biased against God! Refuting evoltuion is easy! In my humble opinion, evoltuion still has a way to got before it can even put up a decent argument. - more evidence agaisnt Evolution [url=www.answersingenesis.com]here[/url] Restoration of israel as a nation (Isaiah) Catastrophic tides, earthquakes, signs in the heavens (UFO's grand alignment) Matthew 24. I've spent way too much time before explainign that. Jesus want to know you. He has given you, through me as his servant, only a taste, of the refuting of evoltuion. Whoever is unbiased and willigng to seek will find. Whoever is automatically shutting out the facts will not see. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I, Colossus Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Celia [/i] [B][color=0099FF][size=1]If there is no 'God', why would you be posting here? I just found it ridiculous how you don't believe in God; he created everything.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] How can you find someone's personal beliefs ridiculous? Because they don't match that of your own? I'm not trying to be rude or a meanie-head or anything, but you shouldn't trample on someone's beleifs. I personally am agnostic, well, more like undecided. There isn't any proof he exists, but no one has a better explanation to how we got here. I personally think everything is just simply beyond human comprehension and we'll find out when we die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinji Ikari[/i] [B][size=1]How about the position of the earth? Isn't god great! Just a few stepa away form it's current position and it's too cold for life to survive, just a few steps closer to the sun, and it's too hot for life to survive. [b] This is an example of delicate, inquisite design![/b][/size][/B][/QUOTE][size=1]It may be too hot or too cold for [i]Earthly[/i] life, maybe, but for other [b][i][u]possible[/i][/u][/b] (note the word [i]possible[/i]) life it may be just right. One could hypothesize that humans were never existent on Earth to begin with, let us say that humans existed on Venus. We would simply be structured to survive on Venus. Mercury would be too hot for us, and Earth would be too cold. There is also the wonderful ability to adapt. It takes time, yes, but it is possible that if taken the time and the right precations a person, animal, or plantlife can learn to live in a different environment. It would be like going to a new school, but not really. Oh, and you forgot to capitalize 'God'. Shame on you. *rolls eyes* [color=#808080](I was being just as satirical to myself as I was to you, so do not worry about it, lol.)[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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