G.D. Ryoko Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I find it so funny how narrow-minded people could be.Power puff girls has more gross things than FLCL, like when they beat up the bad guys and put holes throught them,etc. It seems like everytime teens find something they like, there always have to be some extremest group of parents who say the shows are evil.(like they did with pokemon.)Teens need something to watch too, and since w are older, we need cartoons/anime with more mature themes for our levels of matureness. We can`t always watch Barney forever. Sorry I sound so harsh but I`m a bit upset about something at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 That'snot harsh, it's actually quite true. There are so many shows with violence that parents don't even realize it. My parents do, that's why I get to watch this kind of stuff. Also, this woman said that she's not extemist, yet she's suing CN for one anime show that has less violence and nudity than the children's shows on CN. She should watch Dexter's Lab. Then she'll see that FlCl is a lot more appropriate for children then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 [size=1][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MillieFan [/i] [B]I don't even like FLCL and I think this is rather intellectually deficient to say the least. Oh, and by the way, FLCL is rated TV-14 here. Or at least five of the episodes were. I think the other was indeed TV-PG. [/B][/QUOTE] I don't know what you're trying to say. Are you saying this thread is intellectually deficient or the article about the lady hating FLCL? ::shrugs:: It's not like the lady is going to win. I did a search on Google and nothing appeared about it on the first page. It's just some dinky little article at a website I've never heard of before.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 The lady won't win. That is one of the dumbest lawsuits I've ever heard about. This lady probably hasn't seen that many movies or prime-time TV series. Either that or she thinks that cartoons are only for kids, and that's just stupid.Everyone needs cartoons, including anime shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyperson7890 Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I TOTALLY AGREE W/ EVERYBODY!!!! she shouldn't win and she wont!!! and if she does...and AS gets kicked off...i swear my friend and i will find some way to sue her!!!!! :flaming: There are warnings everywhere on CN about the shows about every half-hour or hour :eek: and she said her husband heard about it from men in their 20's!!!! they're about 20!!!! they're not 10!!! :angry2: :cussing: this being said...i'll now listen to some music Spoken in Japanese to calm me down... -ladyperson7890 :stupid: P.S. she probably caught her husband watching it and then he wasnt paying attention to the kids and they were watching it w/ him P.S.S. Jackass is way more Violent and stupid then FLCL could be...(my opinion...remember this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Yeah, those men were in their 20's, weren't they? If she's complaining about how this show isn't appropriate for kids, when her husband heard about it from men in their 20's, then why did this lawsuit even start? That's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tog Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Heh, I remember at CCI this year when Adult Swin anounced that they were going to airing FLCL, and some guy next to me said, "Oh wow. They're pretty daring." I knew as soon as they anounced that, that were going to be problems with parents fighting CN and AS. Heh, this is all just pretty funny. I mean, the type of thing that passes for children's programming is pretty much brain rotting monkey feces, and this isn't really meant young viewers. Heh, I wonder how much of FLCL that woman watched... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Ýeah, i know. Nobody ever protested against Cow and Chicken and that proabably the most demented cartoon ever made. Geez. It like the Devil was one of the main characters and acted like a complete bisexual. Cow showed her butt crack, chicken was a jerk and was constantly being stepped on. This woman sewing is just crazy and redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyxe Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 OMG, DUHHHHHHH!!!!! How dumb can that person get??? I mean it is called "Adult Swim", honestly, doesn't that give you a sign not to let your little children watch it?? :P Idiot. I am going to send a VERY long letter to that lady! :P Idiot. Heh, sorry. But honestly!! DUUHHH. Just because it does that sometimes doesn't mean it needs an R rating.*scratches her head* How thick are people??? Anyway, yeah. It is 'sposed to be funny lady... get it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess? Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 That lady has some issues. I've watched that show with my dad before and he thought it was funny. I dont see why she goes insane about a little violence you see more in almost any cartoon on CN. Anyways its a popsickle not a lolypop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbfrontmanvdp Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Even though i know she is not going to win since she has such an insignificant arguement, there have been times when arguements such as these have won in court so there is always a slight chance. Like someone said before about it being on a non-noticable website makes this case of little importance to begin with. Why this lady would want to sue a television show she has little backround on is beyond me. She of course never stated whether she saw the warnings of it not being suitable for kids under the age of 18 (even though it is PG-14). And i love how people brought up that she might not have kids, this makes it even more bizarre. Maybe she was gettin p/o that her husband was paying less attention to her at night and decided anime was better than...yea. I dont know i just think this is completely off the wall and i would like to see how far this lady will actually go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVL Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Is it just me or this is woman a MORON?!? It's called ADULT Swim, it comes on in the middle of the night when little kids are ASLEEP and can't watch it, they have all kinds of warnings on it, and quite a bit of the stuff she's complaining about isn't even true! I mean, come ON! If she doesn't want her kids to watch it then make sure they go to bed before it comes on! Just exercise some of those "parental powers"! You don't have to complain to the whole world about one tiny little thing. You want to see violent TV, go watch TNT sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtakuSennen Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Oi.. Extremist parents... It's always the same. They take a small, in some cases almost unnoticeable aspect of something and blow it out of proportion.. Here are some examples: -Pokemon- Some parents said that some of the Pokemon looked like religious symbols.. That is weird. How many Pokemon look like some sort of Norse god that is beant on destruction..? From what I see, most Pokemon look like little animals.. And even if some LOOK like religious symbols, how many children make gold statues of them, bow before them and chant incantations..? -Harry Potter- Oh my goodness, they fix each others' glasses and make feathers float. How horrible. *rolls eyes* The main characters are good, seemingly Christian (They celebrate Christmas) children.. And Harry doesn't drink the blood of a lamb, put horns on his head and chant some weird satanic phrase.. And the hero is overcoming the weirdo evil wizard... And here's something a wise person I know once said: "If Harry Potter is banned for witchcraft, then let's throw out Snow White and Cinderella." Do they not have witches as well? Come on, people. -FLCL- Oi. It's Adult Swim. Late Night Television. If her kids... Are "young teens" as they said, they should be able to handle rubber bullets and a little fanservice... And kids by that age have probably had some sex ed classes, thus they've seen far worse stuff.. This woman is probably just trying to get attention.. And if she is such a good parent, she should know that a 13-year-old is probably not going to go and shoot everybody 'cause a kid in a blue hooded jacket shot a robot with some little bullets... While she's at it, why don't we ban Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, and The Justice League? Cartoon Network will not cancel Adult Swim.. I heard that they actually changed their status so they could show a TV-MA-rated show if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillieFan Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i] [B][size=1] I don't know what you're trying to say. Are you saying this thread is intellectually deficient or the article about the lady hating FLCL? ::shrugs:: It's not like the lady is going to win. I did a search on Google and nothing appeared about it on the first page. It's just some dinky little article at a website I've never heard of before.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I was saying that anyone who would sue over FLCL (or any other currently televised anime for that matter) is being intellectually deficient (as well as a major league whiner). By the way, the reason we have the inconsistant edits of today on CN is because of a lawsuit. Some parents and (not sure about this) possibly Focus on the Family) sued CN a while back for airing Vampire Hunter D uncut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyonen Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Has anyone heard that phrase that goes something like "you could sue a bologna sandwich in today's courts" or something else like that? I always thought that that sounded funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyperson7890 Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kyonen [/i] [B]Has anyone heard that phrase that goes something like "you could sue a bologna sandwich in today's courts" or something else like that? I always thought that that sounded funny. [/B][/QUOTE] i think my father once told me something like that... okay now im going to put myself in her shoes...at least all i know about her... i think i would be a little disturbed if i saw "violence" on a childrens network...since, when she was a child(if she's my parents age)they didn't have shows like this on tv...and they didn't always have programs on at night(i think most programs were live)and they rarely cussed on tv back then(untill Elvis). And then seeing a little of the backside of a "women/alien" would be a little more disturbing...(if she doesn't watch very much TV) Actually all of this would be disturbing if she didn't watch much TV at all... just wanted to see what it would be like in her shoes of what we know her story is... edit: she was probably the one who was disturbed and not her husband...unless he didn't watch much TV either... -Ladyperson7890 :stupid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Good point. But still, this argument isn't justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [color=hotpink][size=1]Yes, it's called [b]ADULT SWIM.[/B] How old are the majority of you? Between ages 11-14, I'd say. Of course, they are the exceptions, but this is my point. I agree with the woman in a few ways. Number 1, I think it's stupid for CN to even have an AS. When I was a kid, I used to stay up all night and watch TV. It doesn't matter if it puts up the disclaimer...people will still watch it if they want to. No one can stop them. Why do you think all of YOU are watching it? And the things they do show on AS are VERY suggestive. I think that if CN wanted to show violent/sexual oriented stuff, they shouldn't have aimed at creating the channel for children in the first place. You all compare AS to shows that are aired on Fox. Well, primetime TV such as the stuff that comes on Fox is not aimed for kids. The Cartoon Network is. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkadyz Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [color=silver][font=times new roman][b]Well QA its nice to hear a different POV, but there are some flaws in your logic. Namely that parents must be accountable for there children and what there watching. These people that complain about there kids watching these shows are the ones that arent even keeping an eye on them. Its like when they crazy woman went on a crusade against Married with Children...It all started because she went and turned on the tv to MWC but didnt bother to find out what the show was about and proceded to leave the room. When she came back she saw what the show was really about she was outraged. She had no right to complain because she did what many other parents do...Use the television as a babysitter. Well I dont think networks can be blamed because people dont know how to look after there kids. They seem to blame every media and social thing for the way there and other children behave and yet never think for once it could be because of there own bad parenting. Its like when I see kids trash the childrens dept. at work and the parents do the same then just walk away. Then they wonder why there kids are messy and refuse to clean their rooms? Sighz well ive gone on for too long...Needless to say AS aires very late...Has disclaimers on it...Is edited...What more do you need? :rolleyes: [/color][/font][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 This case will go just as far as the fat man suing mcdonalds. They show a disclaimer so what else can they do? If you let your kids watch tv that late than odds are they are watching way worse stuff. No wonder parents are never taken seriously by their kids anymore. kid: Mommy what are you doing? mom: mommy's calling your cartoon channel so they won't show wrong things past an appropriate hour. Now go to a sex party like every bored suburban kid. this makes me sick. Parents have control over their kids, all they have to do is take away the remote. Why do people try to change the world when all they have to do is change themselves? Queen Asuka, i agree with you on some points. But my main beef is not with the fact kids watch it or even that they show the cartoon. My problem is that i am fed up with parents not taking responsability for their kids. This goes past cartoon network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Yagyou Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by vegeta rocker [/i] [B]This case will go just as far as the fat man suing mcdonalds. They show a disclaimer so what else can they do? If you let your kids watch tv that late than odds are they are watching way worse stuff. No wonder parents are never taken seriously by their kids anymore. kid: Mommy what are you doing? mom: mommy's calling your cartoon channel so they won't show wrong things past an appropriate hour. Now go to a sex party like every bored suburban kid. this makes me sick. Parents have control over their kids, all they have to do is take away the remote. Why do people try to change the world when all they have to do is change themselves? Queen Asuka, i agree with you on some points. But my main beef is not with the fact kids watch it or even that they show the cartoon. My problem is that i am fed up with parents not taking responsability for their kids. This goes past cartoon network. [/B][/QUOTE] I totally agree with you, Its midnight, they have a disclamer. Do you think a child would stay up that late watching cartoons, even if they do the parent shouldnt be letting their kid on a tv by themself at that time if they are THAT paranoid. They adressed nudity below the waist on a girl, it was just her butt, no big deal. You know they were adressing episode 5, in my opinion I think that episode is the most graphic, but not that graphic. And what she said about the oral sex on the lollipop, first off lady its not a lollipop, lollipops are hard and dont melt, you can tell it was melting. Making it a fruitcicle thing, and she was just sucking on it, it doesnt make her acting out oral sex. About the gun fight, she said they were blowing eachothers brains out. Now did you see any gore or blood whatsoever? No, you didnt. Lady, if you are reading this, you are a annoying, anal, stereotype of a worried house wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yalborap Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 Nice words, my friend. And yeah, I'm 11, but I'm mature enough to watch this stuff, and my parents watch it with me from time to time as well. This woman is no more than a soccer mom who wants to shield her children from all that is not cute, cuddly, and violance free. It's people like that that make me sick. If she doesn't want her kids watching it, just don't let them watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyonen Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=hotpink][size=1]Yes, it's called [b]ADULT SWIM.[/B] How old are the majority of you? Between ages 11-14, I'd say. Of course, they are the exceptions, but this is my point. I agree with the woman in a few ways. Number 1, I think it's stupid for CN to even have an AS. When I was a kid, I used to stay up all night and watch TV. It doesn't matter if it puts up the disclaimer...people will still watch it if they want to. No one can stop them. Why do you think all of YOU are watching it? And the things they do show on AS are VERY suggestive. I think that if CN wanted to show violent/sexual oriented stuff, they shouldn't have aimed at creating the channel for children in the first place. You all compare AS to shows that are aired on Fox. Well, primetime TV such as the stuff that comes on Fox is not aimed for kids. The Cartoon Network is. [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I just don't think that CN has enough resourses to make AS a channel, or maybe they they do. There's a lot that could be said babout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 [size=1] My mom would kill me if I were to stay up until 12:00 AM watching television in the first place. Parents are responsible for monitoring their children, and that includes what they watch.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillieFan Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 I'm 19. While I agree that kids shouldn't be watching these animes (I once saw a professed nine year old discussing Cowboy Bebop on a messageboard, :eek: ), I also don't see a reason why anime should be banned from TV unless it's heavily edited, childish tripe like Pokemon. There are plenty of good websites out there (Anime Cafe Parent's Guide To Anime [url]http://www.abcb.com/parents/index.htm[/url] is one of the best, although they need to update with new titles and a new review for some old ones) and many other places to look up information. Ignorance of anime or its content is really no excuse for demanding that all anime be banned from the airwaves because some isn't good for kids. I personally think that parents need to be a little more responsible. Your kid under 13? Don't let him/her have a TV in his/her room. Also, I'd suggest that rather than such reactionariness, parents be proactive about media, whether it be anime, movies, games, whatever. Rather than setting up a list of "good and bad," and starting these quixotic crusades (which makes what's "bad" become really attractive) it would be better for everyone if parents simply taught their children the difference between fiction and reality, and did what was necessary to keep them from things they simply aren't ready for yet. One last point to this rant LOL: I am absolutely sick of whiners and the mentality that everyone is entitled to a life where they must take no responsibility, do no work, be shielded from anything that could offend their sensibilities, and sue should they be offended, work, or actually have to take responsibility. ^sigh^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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