Re-Decision 2003

[The Original]

Unless you have been living underneath a rock for the past few weeks, you would know about the incredibly ludicrous California recall election. The candidates come from many professions, including actors (Arnold Shwartzaneggar, Gary Coleman) to porn-peddlers (Larry Flynt). What a great country we live in where one of our largest states has an election, and porn stars, sumo wrestlers, and bill-board girls can answer the call. I created this thread to ask what you all thought about this confusing mess, who you would vote for, or what have you. Even if you do not live in California and this may not concern you, I would be glad to hear from you anyway.

[Drix D'Zanth]

Honestly, you are going to get a fairly liberal guy. While Arnold is the most conservative in a business sense, he supports abortion and other predominatly liberal opinions. I wouldn't condemn him for that, everyone's opinions can change (I'm conservative and anti-death penalty) , but ABORTION? Well, I'd vote for him over a porn king any day :D. Plus, this doesn't suprise me, I mean.. It is CALIFORNIA here people.

[BabyGirl]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth [/i]
[B]but ABORTION?[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=deeppink]You make it sound like it's not a woman's choice what to do with her body ;). Abortion is legal in California, at least in my county. And thank gods for that, any man who believes against abortion has obviously never been 15, pregnant, and alone.

Anyway, sure everybody and their brother is running for governer. The more I read about it, the more I think that the candidates are just being huge jokesters, seeing as how Gray Davis is turning into one fat joke of a governer himself.

But as I said in the thread like this a week or so ago, maybe people should actually read up on what Arnold has to say before speaking out against him [not saying that you two haven't, but that's my general statement to everyone].[/color]

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i]
[B][color=deeppink] And thank gods for that, any man who believes against abortion has obviously never been 15, pregnant, and alone.
[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

"It's funny how the only proprietors of Abortion are those, who have not been aborted themselves." -Ronald Regan.

Any woman who belives abortion is right has obviously never been a living being, unborn, and without a choice but to die through fairly gratuitous methods (saline, a dismemberment, things that would make the jews of ww2 shudder). Listen I'm not trying to start an abortion topic here, i'm sure there are many debates already covered in the otaku boards previously. I was just commenting that it was a fairly liberal stance for a "conservative". Just my opinion. :P

[The Original]

Crap, we better leave the abortion issue alone, or this thing'll be shut down. Lol. Anyway, I wasn't speaking out against Arnold, or any other candidate. I just happen to find the entire election very amusing, and for all I know, Arnold could be a very good Govenor. I was just using him as an example.

[Kent]

Ive actually noticed alot of what arnold has to say and he really sounds to have his "leadership priorities" together.

The people this, the people that.

But for this guy, it really is from the heart. You can just read it in his charactor.

I support arnolds run for the governorship for many reasons, but the most important one...

He seems to really in putting the public interest before anything else.

I haven't noticed him saying "no new taxes." But I'm willing to bet arnold is capable of orginizing an economic recovery team that will re-evaluate already existing taxes, and create newer more effecient taxes. All of this resulting in better buisness managment, that in the end saves the tax payer as well as the state.

Who really knows?

Oh yeah, lets keep this about the race for gov. of california.

abortion is extremly touchy for everyone. we should discuss that subject in the appropriate thread.

[The Original]

Well GoKents, you seem to have Arnolds back, and that's great. But aren't you a bit skeptical of his political knowledge? No offense meant, but this guy has built his career on body-building and movies like Terminator and Conan the Barbarian. I would question whether he knows what he's doing in the political world since all he's ever done is acting, but then again Reagan was an actor. Maybe I'm just being too cynical.

[Baron Samedi]

Arnold? But Arnold is dead.... didn't you see the documentary they did on him? I believe it was called 'Rise of the Machines', and was a very good documentary of the last few days of life. Did you know that he was a robot? Pretty freaky heh? Alll those years and i never would have suspected a thing. But seriously, he doesn't sound like he would be that bad. I live in Australia, but it sounds pretty good, with his opinions and policies etc. Sure he may have acted most of his life, but if he is running for Governor, then he probably has a good idea of what he is doing, don't you think? Imagine if he didn't, and he got into Government, and stufffed up? I don't think he would risk his reputation if he didn't know how to handle Governor, and what to do.

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Original [/i]
[B]Well GoKents, you seem to have Arnolds back, and that's great. But aren't you a bit skeptical of his political knowledge? No offense meant, but this guy has built his career on body-building and movies like Terminator and Conan the Barbarian. I would question whether he knows what he's doing in the political world since all he's ever done is acting, but then again Reagan was an actor. Maybe I'm just being too cynical. [/B][/QUOTE]

In response to this, I belive the country shoudn't necessarily be run by people with "political knowledge" or a "political background". When you think about it, politics have their ups and downs, the more someone has invested into politics, the more likely he is going to spew the same rhetoric that the populous expects. Our gov't is designed so it can be run by citizens. Anyone, with the right ambition and campaign investment should be able to become president, much less governor. I don't think I would hold Arnold's political history against him if he gave legitimate reasons for why he should be governor.

[BabyGirl]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth [/i]
[B]Any woman who belives abortion is right has obviously never been a living being, unborn, and without a choice but to die through fairly gratuitous methods.[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=deeppink]Buh. I didn't mean to start that going in this thread, and I apologize. I just get worked up on that topic and tend to let my opinion be known...:toothy: Again, I apologize.

::leaves thread quietly, having nothing further to say::[/color]

[GinnyLyn]

*smiles softly at Baby Girl* [spoiler]Considering the only person who [i]didn't[/i] want to abort me when I was on my way was my mom--so you can see my stance, but again, off topic, not going there now, oops, emotional attachment--ARGH! Heh. Sorry, I love you all and you know that.[/spoiler]

Now, I've spoken with a few people, and it's rather shallow to consider Arnold as "just an actor" or "only an actor". He's actually done a lot of great stuff outside of the actor racket (forgive my lazy brain for not finding out [i]what[/i] exactly at the moment), and as my mom says, he's married to a Kennedy who is still alive. Gotta be a good thing.

LAUGH, people! ^_^

[The Original]

Agin, I will say that I wouldn't hold it against him, I was only asking if you people would. I suppose you could be right when you say he wouldn't risk his reputation, so that's a good point. And I apologize if anyone thought I was saying he was "just an actor". It was never my intention, and I am well aware that he has done other things (like GinnyLyn, I too have forgotten what).And Drix made a very good point that the country should be able to be run by citizens, and not neccesaily a seasoned politician. Thumbs up for Drix!

[Harry]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Original [/i]
[B]Well GoKents, you seem to have Arnolds back, and that's great. But aren't you a bit skeptical of his political knowledge? No offense meant, but this guy has built his career on body-building and movies like Terminator and Conan the Barbarian. I would question whether he knows what he's doing in the political world since all he's ever done is acting, but then again Reagan was an actor. Maybe I'm just being too cynical. [/B][/QUOTE]
The last thing California needs is a "party man" that is so far entangled in the politics that he let's group influence his decisions. Also he killed T-1000.

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Original [/i]
[B]And Drix made a very good point that the country should be able to be run by citizens, and not neccesaily a seasoned politician. Thumbs up for Drix! [/B][/QUOTE]

:grumble: Thanks for the sarcasm. Tell me a seasoned politician that ISNT a citizen and I'll be impressed :P . No, my point is the government was designed so normal people can rotate opinions, so we don't have a king who's opinions rule us all. So you or I could work our way up to a position of influence, then be rotated out of that position, unless you are a Kennedy ;).