Katana Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 On one of my daily trips to this anime website called Lelola, I saw this in an update. Here's a part of the article. The full one made me gag so badly. [i]I found an article discussing the "best" and "worst" TV shows (Because, you know, what's the point of quality time and literature when there's TV "Books"? What are these "books" you speak of?") for little children. Here's an excerpt from "The Worst": ---- Pamela Odom's rule of thumb: If a children's show is violent in any way, it's not something she's going to let her 1-year-old son, Kaeleb, watch. At the top of her list of bad kids' shows is the animated adventure series "Pokemon." "As if children don't see enough of that (violence)," the Lakeland mother said. "They certainly don't need to see it in their favorite cartoons." She's hardly alone. Advocates for quality TV also deplore "Pokemon," along with similar action cartoons. Other offenders include "The Powerpuff Girls," "Yu-Gi-Oh" "X-Men" and "Dragon Ball Z," all on the Cartoon Network; and "Shaman King," on Fox. ---- This article reminds me of an article I have somewhere in my collection of junk from 1996 that listed TV Guide's most violent shows. The top ones were all exports from Japan (At the time, Power Rangers was at the top of the list). Meh. I grew up on "violent" shows and I turned out fine. *nervous laugh* Seriously though, I understand not wanting to allow a really young child to watch such shows, but compared to most of the stuff on TV, the anime mentioned wasn't that violent. I do think that parents have a responsibility controlling what their children watch, however, there is such a thing as sheltering children a little too much. Yes, the happy happy joy joy "perfect world" moral-of-the-day TV shows aren't violent, but they also are a bit of a dilution at times. Fairytale endings rarely happen in real life. I think that children should be exposed to a wide range of programming. I've found that anime works wonders in opening children's imaginations. That said and done, I'm off to watch the ever-violent Pokemon so that I can even more become corrupted and evil, so that I may find a way to overthrow the current governments and take over the world.[/i] Am I the only one who sees the first obvious sign? [i]Pamela Odom's rule of thumb: If a children's show is violent in any way, it's not something she's going to let her 1-year-old son, Kaeleb, watch.[/i] My God, the kids 1 YEARS OLD! Of course he's not gonna watch DBZ. But seriously, am I the only (besides Pan-Chan, who did the update) who thinks that the parent's over-protective? Okay, well, wha'cha all think? PS: If you [i]really[/i] wanna gag, go [URL=http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030917/NEWS/309170301/1021]here[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Pokemon is a very violent show and in cringe when I see the pokemon fighting. I mean enslaving animals and making them fight? Jesus help us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B]I mean enslaving animals and making them fight?[/B][/QUOTE] Amen. That's how I saw it from the first time it went on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteora Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [color=666666][size=1][i]*shakes head* She's trying to make a point. Well they are telling the truth Pokemon is kinda violent. But still a 1 year old isnt supposed to watch it let alone I dont even think it knows what T.V. is.[/color][/size][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyxe Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue]That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far.... well not as bad as that lady suing CN for showing FLCL. Dude... what are these peoples problems?! I mean I just watched Pokemon yesterday, feh, violent. And Power Rangers rocked. And they also are conplaining about Teletubbies?! Sure they are fat and one is gay, but still... little kids don't care! X-men is ok to, heh, my little brother watches all that stuff and he isn't turning out "violent". He loves to watch DBZ with me. I'm glad my mom was never like that... that is stupid. I hate people like that... they just don't get it. And PowerPuff Girls? Give me a break. If every show was like Rolly Polly Olie.... GOD, I WOULD GO MENTAL!! I would break the T.V. Anyway... I think you get my point.[/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [color=crimson]Then the parents should stop bitching and not let their kids watch it. There is plenty of kid-friendly programming everywhere, even on Cartoon Network. There is no reason to blame the TV for trying to also appeal to older toddlers-pre teens as well. They are trying to get a good target audience in, not blanket violence out like it does not exist in our world, lol. Next thing you know CNN will be deemed a hazard to devolping children, haha.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Most anime sucks as it is. They're probably doing these kids a service by not letting them watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qukey Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Many parents are simply lazy. They allow TV be the baby-sitter. Therefore, they think it is necessary for TV to show something they like as they want to "protect" their kids. How many parents are actually sitting down and watching the shows with their kids nowaday? The parents are allowing TV to accompany/educate their children with "safe" TV programs; boardcaster rather edit shows to avoid lawsuits. Some parents don't care if a show is on Adult Swim at 12:00am which is not intent for children at all. I think parents should worry about why their 10 year kids are still watching TV at midnight, instead what is shown at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward-tivrushy Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Conna_da_fox [/i] [B][SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue] well not as bad as that lady suing CN for showing FLCL. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE] I can't stand parents who think this stuff is totally wrong when it really isn't, parents who feel good about doing something that is just stupid. and also I didn't hear her say she was suing cartoon network (heh although I wouldn't be surprised if she did). Any way you can't stop them from protesting but it sure isn't very hard to prove them wrong on soooooo many of the crappy points that they take to the "EXTREME" so hence the name extremist moms or parents. I want to keep saying stuff about how I hate people who do these stupid lawsuits because they mostly loose. it makes them sound dumb. they should take the time to realize that they can't keep this stuff from their children, it probably hurts their social life if they don't know most of what the real world is like. Because it sure as heck isn't a eden it's almost the exact opposite only some of us our sane.:drunk: like me!:drunk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig8429 Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 You'd be surprised, people like to complain about anything they can. I personally feel that this lady is being a total hypicrit. if she doesn't want the child to watch "pokemon" fine don't make a issue of it, but insted get rid of your tv. Everyshow on t.v. has a little bit of a viloent streak. heck lets get rid of the news too! I mean it tells about violent crimes. this lady is a lunitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash's girl Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 I totally agree with craig. Did you ever think, what did she grow up on? What exactly is her perfect tv show? Tom and Jerry and Bugs bunny? What does she think of them. They tried to kill each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 [size=1]How much television does her one-year-old son watch? I think it's sort of a bizarre crusade....although [i]Between the Lions[/i] is an awesome show. Everyone should watch it.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime_guy Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 thats so stupid,, i never say anytrhing violent tho... *turns on Scar Face w/ Al Pacino* lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_H_Magus Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 God! This topic make me so [COLOR=red]Angry[/COLOR]!:flaming: *Breathes* So i will say the exact same thing that i said when this topic came up about videogames on GameFaqs.com. Desensititizing children to violence can be a bad thing, but it can also be a very good thing. Think about it for a second. A kid is sheltered his whole life, and only gets to watch teletubbies and never sees anything violent. Then one day he is outside playing with his dog, the ball rolls into the road and the dog chases after it, the dog is hit by a car and splattered all over the pavement, blood and guts lying on the ground and stuck to the grill of the car that just hit it. The sheltered kid might be mentally damaged for the rest of his life from something like that. but a kid who has been watching an overly violent episode of rouroni kenshin or has been killing something on an fps an hour ago might not have as much of an effect on him. In that sense i think that overprotecting your children could even possibly lead to violence. The kid might think that that violence isn't real and there is no consequences for carving open some other person. These ignorant housewifes have nothing else to do and should be told to shut up and go clean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetepKa Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Ok, it's exelent to have censured tv, and yes, pokémon is a teeeny bit violent but, hey What isn't violent in this world nowadyas!!!! I mean come on, DBZ,Pokémon,Yu-gi-oh!,Shaman King and X-men are violent but I don't even think that 1 year old child can even understand what they're doing!!!!:flaming: and I don't think that kid is interested in those kinds of shows anyway, maybe he has a brother or a sister that watch those shows but since the mother isn't carefull enough, she let's her little kid see it and maybe he grew to like one of them (even if he thinks they're dancing...) It's not the fault of anyone else in this world but the mom... And I always thought Teletubies could affect ones language....and rot ones brain. And PPG (Power puff girls) violent? soo they take down monsters who are 1.000 time they're size and the monsters aren't as happy and nice as Stanley's gold fish, but ...There's more violene in 15 minutes of news than violence on all the shows listen here!! and if you want your kid to believe that the world is filled with friendly robots, kind talking dragons, bears that dance, a moon that sing and a shadow that talks... go ahead, but remember, he/she will eventually get to see all the violene this world has to offer....Maybe he/she shouldn't see it at 4 or 5 years of age but... keep that in mind.:) ;) and let your children be who they want to be!!! (with limits and censurement, of course...:rolleyes: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtakuSennen Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 *sigh* I doubt that this woman's 1-year-old child knows which is the "channel up" button on the remote, so why does she care so much? Is she trying to be a saint and forwarn all of the other parents and tell them how to raise their children? If so, that is sort of moronic. A parent should raise their child how they see fit, and if they don't want their newborn watching a Pikachu thwap its tail on some Bulbasaur's head then that is their choice. Here's a solution for all of these oh so wonderful extremist parents: Buy a V-chip or one of those add-ons to a television that blocks some things your children see. That will solve this problem well enough. The children will find out about violence anyway, whether it is other kids at school (later on in childhood) telling them, or if they just play in the room with the news on hearing about terrorist plots. I knew about OJ Simpson's murder charges when I was four, and that got me to where I am today-- OK, bad example. God, if they find Pokemon offensive, let's just wait until CN puts Evangelion on Adult Swim for a week, if they ever do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marron347 Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 This topic irritates me as well, D_H_Magus, and I agree with you about how kids are going to see violence anyway even if they don't watch it on cartoons. Maybe "disensitizing" your children is kind of drastic because the kid might think killing is okay because they see it happen all the time, I dunno, I guess that just depends on the person. But I think it isn't exactly a healthy thing if some kid's dog gets its brain smashed out by a truck and he doesn't have any emotional response to it at all. Even with that said, I still think you shouldn't keep your kids from watching violent TV or playing violent video games. If your going to do that you can keep them from watching the news and talk shows and stuff too. It's just wrong to keep reality from your children because you'd be hurting them more than helping them. And if they want to be violent send them to a Martial Arts class or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Oh, God! This woman must be out of her mind! Doesn't she know that violence makes up most entertainment nowadays?:rolleyes: There's not really anything bad about these shows. Do you see kids killing each other because they saw an episode of Pokemon or Yu-gi-oh? Well, I hope you don't. It'd be really stupid if they did. Kids watch these shows because they want to. Why do these extemist parents have to ruin everything for us? Some of us enjoy these shows as much as kids do (like my dad, he really likes Yu-gi-oh). They probably just want to see some cash come their way because of it. Well, you'll be hearing more about this from people like me. Next time, they'll probably turn off all channels that show things rated PG and up. :flaming: :mad: :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward-tivrushy Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 although we all agree that this lady is throwing this whole thing out of proportion I don't know who has the more annoying case this or that lady that sued cartoon network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuoMax Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Now [i]this[/i] really make me angry. I mean, if I watch Cowboy bebop, does that mean that I'll take a gun and go hunt for wanted criminals? Of course not, because, like most kids, I can distinguish between reality and non-reality. Parents seem to think that we can't. *sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Yeah, you're right, DouMax. Do they think that if we watch South Park, we'll cuss our heads off? Do they think that if we watch Trigun, we'll buy guns and take to school and shoot a bunch of random people? If the kid has common sense, he won't. Do parents think that kids nowadays are a bunch of moronic fools? I definitely don't think so (for most cases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vash22 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Ok heres my idea on it. Its the parents fault to let their kids watch the stuff. Also not letting kids watch this kinda stuff makes them feel vulnerable i think. It does not give kids the rolemodels and such. I mean do we want kids running around with t.v.s in their stomaches acting like Teletubies. Oooooor do we want kids to walk around with superhero stuff on. Ok well (i dont think im making much sense but this makes me so mad) It is vital for kids to have these role models. I can see a kid not watching cowboy bebop or FLCL. But alot of shows like Trigun give people a larger view on life. If parents cant understand that there are usually LARGER pictures in these shows. Trigun again for example shows biblical things like Knives is like the devil and Vash is like an angel and Wolfwood shows pergutory. In a way it is impossible to shield kids from this sort of stuff. really it is a curious child is bound to find it like if a parent hides dirty magazines a curious child will probably find them. so there it is I AM ALSO 13 soo dont go thinking im an adult. I think in a larger view I also hate people who think they know everything and everyone should listen to them. LONG LIVE THE ANIME WORLD!!!! TRIGUN BEBOP YAYYYYYY :demon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoko T.D.C. Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Hey, they never said anything about Sagwa! I want Sagwa! I think it's cute! I personly like Blues Clues. I like Blue only tho. Shes so cute. Forget the others. But anyway, most of that *Does the " " finger thing* "violent" stuff comes on later. This is almost like the thread when that lady wanted to sue Cartoon network for Fooly Cooly. It's crap. All crap. But you know what? Their adults. Not saying most do, but they say stupid things and do stupid things sometimes. Then, in a few days, it'll pass. And I understand why she don't like the Teletubbies. Their creepy. *Gets goose bumps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IloveBebop Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 The Teletubbies [i]are[/i] creepy, but that's nowhere near my point. Trigun may give some views on life and show religious symbols, but kids aren't allowed to watch it because of all of the gus and liqour in it.It would be sort of stupid without the guns and liquor, so it's inappropriate for kids. By the way, that's [b]not[/b] insulting Trigun, it's just spreading the truth. Well, I guess these "superheroes" are good rolemodels for kids. The thing that parents really hate about them is that they think kids will try to go out and fight crime after watching one of those shows. Either they just think that we're stupid, or they're just stupid. Either way, it's stupid not to let them watch these shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xellos Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Ok, I can understand DBZ being considered violent, but Yu-Gi-Oh? I think anyone old enough to become "violent" from that show can tell that they aren't able to use giant monster things. And Pokemon? I'm pretty sure they'll soon discover that they can't get a Charizard to get rid of the school bully. If parents don't want they're kids to watch these shows, then don't let them! Have them watch Caillou or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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