Teen Titans!

[Doukeshi]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowKitty [/i]
[B]On another note, I spotted a Teen Titans comic book @ Borders the other day and it's weird 'cuz in da comix they have more characters. Maybe next season they'll have these unsung heroes appear. [/B][/QUOTE]

Of course they have more characters. Have you ever watched the animated series of the Justice League, they have only seven characters whereas the really Justice League of the comics is made up of so many DC characters it isn't even funny (Side Note: Green Arrow should be shot).

I'm not really a big fan of the Teen Titan series, I suppsoe the only reason I sometimes watch it is because it has dear Tim Drake jiving along as Robin (who I think does a better Robin than even Dick Grayson to tell you the truth). All well and good as a tv series I suppose. I find it too cartoony though...if I can say that about a cartoon. I know what I mean.

[Vicky]

[quote name='PhoenixFlame']I'm pretty sure its a japanese cartoon, for one it has japanimation facial expressions and two I think the introduction song starts out in Japanese. But yes it's a great cartoon.It's Robin's version of the Justice League.[/quote]

[SIZE=1][B]Nope, Teen Titans is American. The theme song was sung by Japanese people which I think was mentioned earlier in this thread. Also, Slade may NOT be Batman since in the comics Slade was [spoiler]Slade Wilson[/spoiler] and I'm pretty sure the animation series will have the same thing. Having Batman as Slade is just messed up, big time. Also, Slade wanted [spoiler]Terra[/spoiler] as his apprentice, an if Slade was indeed Batman then what interest would he have in Terra?

Also, the original comics did have more characters in it (I'm guessing the animated series is based on The New Teen Titans, since Raven was in it and most of the characters we no, not to mention Terra).

Anyway, I'm a big fan of the original comics and the new animated series, though sometimes it's best to look bad at the old comics because most the time it will explain things (I doubt the TT Animated creators would base it just on the comic names and stuff and not the storylines, lol)[/B][/SIZE]

[Endymion]

[quote name='Kyo no Ryu']Slade IS batman. He must be. They were on Wayne enterprises, they know each others moves, Slade wants to tain him it all adds up.[/quote]

[COLOR=Navy][SIZE=1]I think it was mentioned before that Slade is based off a villain from the comic book series...possibly. Slade is too wicked to be Batman anyway. [spoiler]Especially when he uses the girl with the earth-linked powers, Terra. She doesn't end up killed, but she's solid rock now...Not a Batman thing to do...[/spoiler] Anyway, I really enjoy the series when I'm able to catch an episode between sleep and work. Raven, Starfire and Robin seem to be my favorite characters. I'm not too fond of Beast Boy and Cyborg, but they do have their good moments. [spoiler] I thought it was cool when Robin was 'Red X' as well...[/spoiler] Anyway you look at it, from my perspective, its a good, if not great series.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Omar Harris]

Yes, TT is American, created by the same folks behind Justice League, Batman (not that POS "The Batman" but the one that spun-off into Justice League), Superman, Static Shock, Batman Beyond and The Zeta Project.

Its based on the comic which originally focused on 5 kid sidekicks (Robin, Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, Aqualad, and Speedy, Gree Arrows sidekick) who formed a Jr. Justice League of sorts. Simply put, the book didn't do all too well until the team of writer Marv Wolfman and artist George Perez came along in the 80s with New Teen Titans.

That series introduced Raven, the half-human daughter of a demon lord named Trigon (who appears in the episode where Beast Boy and Cyborg go into Raven subconscious, though not mentioned by name in the episode). Robin, Kid Flash, and Wonder Girl reunite and with Raven, Cyborg, and Changeling (Beast Boy as he was called then), defeat Trigon and remain as a team. At this point the book took off, and matched the success of 80s era X-Men (the biggest title at the time) on a regular basis.

Oh, little sidenotes:

1. Kid Flash and Wonder Girl are not in the series, because according to Murakami, they wanted to go with Batman centric characters, since fans were already familiar with the WB/Bruce Timm Batman universe with Batman and Batman Beyond.

2. Slade is not Batman. He's Slade Wilson a.k.a Deathstroke the Terminator, a top mercenary who is both immortal and able to use 90% of his brain. These facts have made him one of DCs most overlooked villains (he was the mastermind behind a plot that nearly killed Superman with Kryptonite Cancer, and recently beat the crap out of the combined efforts of Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Elongated Man, Hawkman and Zatanna, a feat that few supervillains, even those with god-like powers, have been able to accomplish).

Deathstroke is also the father of a former Titan, Jericho, who is a mute with the ability to temporarily possess anyone he makes direct eye-to-eye contact with. And have you ever noticed his mask has only one eye? That's because, in the comics he got shot in one eye by his own wife after she decided to go the straight-and-narrow path. he wears an eyepatch under his mask. His name was changed for obvious reason (possible legal action for "The Terminator", and death, in a cartoon? For shame)

Sorry to burst your bubbles (and besides Murakami has stated that no grown-up DC heroes will be showing up anytime soon).

3. Of course there are more Titans, as, like any superhero team, they have a very long rich history of adding and subtracting members. Aqualad was a founder, almost every character from the tournament of champions episode (Speedy, Wildebeest, and Hotstreak, who's called Joto in the series), Bumblebee, and Terra (who's story in the show is almost an exact adaptation of the greatest Titan comic story every written "The Judas Contract", in which she joins the team simply as a spy for Deathstroke and nearly helps kill them all), were all members in the comic along with countless other teen characters, even Supergirl and the new Green Lantern.

Also, for the comment about the anime writing style and how no American toons set up ongoing plots, this was actually done quite a lot in American action cartoons, namely the other DC toons that Bruce Timm produced. Batman set up a subplot about the villain Ra's al Ghul, Superman had a subplot about Darkseid that spilled over into JL, and speaking of JL, it is setting up a subplot about a government conspiracy against the League. But good observation

[Vicky]

[SIZE=1][B]You're supossed to use spoiler tags, Omar, and the Slade thing has already been mentioned once or twice by myself and a few other members.

Slade isn't immortal at all. He can easily be killed but by age he might be possibly, I'm not too sure. Also the comic series wasn't just about those 5, you're forgetting the Tales of the New Teen Titans, which the series was based on more (Since Raven was in it, Beast Boy, Robin, Cyborg and Starfire). I don't recall Green Arrow being the the New Teen Titans, unless I'm mistaken. Aqualad wasn't in it, either, though I'm not too sure.

Also you do know they changed Beast Boy's name a lot? Changleing.... Beast Boy, then back to Changeling...[/SIZE][/B]

[Heaven's Cloud]

[QUOTE=doukeshi03]

I'm not really a big fan of the Teen Titan series, I suppsoe the only reason I sometimes watch it is because it has dear Tim Drake jiving along as Robin (who I think does a better Robin than even Dick Grayson to tell you the truth). All well and good as a tv series I suppose. I find it too cartoony though...if I can say that about a cartoon. I know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=INDIGO]Eh, even though the costume and the caricature resemble Tim Drake?s Robin, subtle hints have been made in Teen Titans pointing to Robin being Dick Grayson. In the episode where ?Larry? showed up as a duplicate of Robin his name was Dick Grayson spelled backward.[/COLOR]

[M.Ali]

[quote name='doukeshi03'] Tim Drake jiving along as Robin (who I think does a better Robin than even Dick Grayson to tell you the truth).[/quote]


That's actually quite peculliar because the never use their "Secret Identities", they are always in uniform, that really bugs me...they must really be uncomfortable. :huh:

[Omar Harris]

[QUOTE=vicky][SIZE=1][B]You're supossed to use spoiler tags, Omar, and the Slade thing has already been mentioned once or twice by myself and a few other members.

Slade isn't immortal at all. He can easily be killed but by age he might be possibly, I'm not too sure. Also the comic series wasn't just about those 5, you're forgetting the Tales of the New Teen Titans, which the series was based on more (Since Raven was in it, Beast Boy, Robin, Cyborg and Starfire). I don't recall Green Arrow being the the New Teen Titans, unless I'm mistaken. Aqualad wasn't in it, either, though I'm not too sure.

Also you do know they changed Beast Boy's name a lot? Changleing.... Beast Boy, then back to Changeling...[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]

I didn't think spoiler tags were necessary for a 40+ year old comic that could be easily researched and bring up the exact same info I gave. Sorry anyways.

Green Arrow wasn't a Titan, his sidekick Speedy was, and a founder at that. Green Lantern V/Kyle Rayner was during the mid-late 90s, Aqualad wasn't part of the New Teen Titans craze in the 80s, and I'm not sure if he rejoined anytime before his return in the late 90s (as Tempest)

As mentioned before the New Teen Titans, orginally, were all five of the characters from the show, plus Kid Flash and Wonder Girl (Terra, a character named Kole, and Jericho, Deathstroke's youngest son, all joined later on, as did a few others I don't know). Yeah I know Beast Boy's name went back and fourth, but hey, why mess with perfection.

Anyways, I love this cartoon, and can't wait to see what's in store for next season. Hopefully that Mad Monty/Mad Moddy, or however you say his name, won't be back (I can't stand his few appearances). Slade's coming back, I can smell it a mile away. Love Ron Perlman's voice for the character, as well as John DiMaggio's voice for Brother Blood (nice change of pace for Kim Possible's Dr. Drakken)

I like Aqualad's costume and how the show incorporates his new Tempest powers from the comic, and I hope to see more Titans as well, most notably Jericho.

[Vicky]

[SIZE=1][B]I'm sorry for being like that in my other post, I was in a mood then... lol

I heard, well I saw on the TT Animated Site that Season Four will be [spoiler]the final season[/spoiler], and by the looks of the titles I [I]might[/I] be focused on Raven. Maybe they'll go into more detail of her past, though the last episode has three parts. Well that's what the creators of the series have spilled out, anyway, though it might be changed (the titles, I mean) before its aired, like Detenion was turned to Mad Mod before it aired.

Animation Insider and TeenTitansGo.net have the titles now, anyways, so I guess we have an idea of Season Four.

I say Beast Boy was the better name than, Changeling, hehe. Changeling is a little too strange for me, and Beast Boy is more suitible I think... I mean, even if Garfield ever grew up he'd still be a boy, personality wise, lol.[/SIZE][/B]