Guest Heezay Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I was browsing the Internet and finally picked up some solid info on the sucessor to the Playstation 2. Read This news article. CHIBA, Japan - Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news) (news - web sites). offered a preview Tuesday of its next-generation PlayStation, a hybrid gaming machine with digital media hub features: a TV tuner, DVD and hard-drive recording and photo album and music player functions. The muscled-up, network-ready console, called the PSX, testifies to the intensifying competition among consumer electronics companies to make the living room the locus of home digital entertainment. About the size of the PlayStation2 (news - web sites), the PSX is to go on sale in Japan late this year, beginning at $720 for a 160-gigabyte hard disk version that can record 200 hours of digital video. Sony said the PSX will reach U.S. and European markets next year but did not provide prices. The machine took center stage at the Sony booth at CEATEC Japan, an annual electronics show near Tokyo that runs through Saturday where Sony's rivals also showed off their wares. The PSX will ship with Ethernet and USB ports, enabling networking, online gaming and connections with such peripherals as digital cameras and game controllers. It includes a memory stick slot and plays both PlayStation and PlayStation2 games. After decades of setting global trends with hits such as the Walkman, Sony has lost a bit of its shine lately, falling behind Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., the company behind the Panasonic brand, in DVD recorders and Sharp Corp. in flat-panel TVs in global market share. Sony Chief Executive Nobuyuki Idei was cautious about the prospects for the PSX and refused to give a sales target, although he called the PSX one of Sony's main new offerings. "We want to sell as much as possible," he said. "We want to create a new genre." The PSX faces competition from souped-up "home entertainment" computers made by various manufacturers that are powered by Microsoft Corp.'s Windows XP (news - web sites) Media Center software, which includes similar functions. Sony is banking on the popularity of the PlayStation2 ? which has sold 60 million worldwide, beating Nintendo (news - web sites) Co.'s GameCube and Microsoft's Xbox (news - web sites) ? to give itself an edge in the DVD recorder market over rivals in the electronics sector that don't have a game unit. The idea of a single machine that has a bit of everything seems logical and attractive to consumers. But analysts say the game machine and audio-visual equipment don't necessarily go together because the life cycles of audio-visual machinery are so much shorter, requiring constant upgrades. "The markets don't match," said Kazumasa Kubota, analyst with Okasan Securities Co. in Tokyo. "The PSX may sell in numbers when it first goes on sale, but it'd be tough to keep the sales going." Kubota said Sony lacks a clear strategy and has fumbled in other new products such as the CoCoon, sold only in Japan so far, which links to the Internet and records TV shows. Sony has not released sales figures for CoCoon. Sony's profits tumbled 98 percent in the first fiscal quarter through June from the previous year, falling to 1.1 billion yen ($10 million) as sales dipped 7 percent. source: [url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031007/ap_on_hi_te/sony_psx&e=1[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I'm truly looking forward to the PSX, I saw a pic of it. It really looks awesome. I heard it will be able to replace TIVO, is this true? I hope so. I really can't wait until next year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heezay Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 This thing seriously looks cool. A amchine with abit of everything, sounds super-convienient. I dunno if it will be able to replace TIVO, users gotta check it out first to see how good it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagan Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Wow this system sounds like its going to replace all others. My friends are already talking about getting it. After I get it I won't need a DVD player anymre or any of those other appliacances. I better start saving up for it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Bouncer Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Ill probably get it if its not too late in the year.. because i think PS3 comes out sometime in 2005.... but my only question is how much will it cost.. my guess.. $300-$500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 I have read some stuff about it before, and i cannot wait until it comes out. But, with me being basically poor, I may not be able to get it for some time.*sighs* money is everything... I think it will be awesome how the PSX will be able to burn cds and dvds, but the hard drive thing isn't exactly that 'yippe!!!' to me. I mean, it's not the first one to have it. Playstaion 2 has the capabilities to have one. You know the expansion bay? That's what that's for. It makes it a computer, basically. And XBox has it, also, seeing how as it's from Microsoft. The design is nice, but they could put more flare into it. I mean, the gamecube is in like 4 different colors. Playstation 2 is making a pink one, a blue one, and a gray design, coming with the ps2, and the analog controller and stand to match. (It's coming out in Japan now, but i don't know when it's coming out in the US) The gold design is nice, but it's just...just...just dull. Over all, i think the PSX will be nice, very nice. but, by the way it's talking, it will be upwards of 800 bucks to get. So,..you gotta be rich to get it, or not get it at all. ~`_Nate_`~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanariya Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Ooh, I cannot wait for the PSX. Can you get me a pic? I tried to click your link Crusader, but the page only read document not found, article expired. I wonder what's wrong. It sounds really cool. Too expensive at the moment and I don't live in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 I don't know what the interest is in this. You could buy seperate things that do stuff better than this does for around the same price, most likely less. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinmaru Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i] [B]I don't know what the interest is in this. You could buy seperate things that do stuff better than this does for around the same price, most likely less. Oh well. [/B][/QUOTE] Took the words right out of my mouth, Tony (first time I've called you that on the boards - I must write this date down :p). You could easily buy everything included in the PSX seperately for about the same price (possibly a little more or a little less depending on where you go) and it will all work better, too. Face it, people, additions like this to video game consoles aren't the easiest things to use and deal with, plus they're very limiting. Need I mention the CD Player in the PS1? Or the DVD Players with the PS2 and X-Box? So, yeah, the PSX doesn't really seem to be worth it, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 I wish that Sony would just work on making a really, really good console, rather than a (most likely) mediocre all-in-one machine. The Tivo-type capabilities actually sound pretty tempting.... but why not just get Tivo? And if you already had a DVD player, why would you need another one? I doubt it'll worth the money. ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 What do you mean, the cd player in the PS1? That worked perfectly, gave you the images sowing bass levels, etc, and more. The DVD player? What's wrong with it? You may say that they need to take all that stuff out, but that stuff alone will double their sales. Triple. becasue you don't nedd to fill a room to get everything. IT'S IN ONE BOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinmaru Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]What do you mean, the cd player in the PS1? That worked perfectly, gave you the images sowing bass levels, etc, and more. The DVD player? What's wrong with it? You may say that they need to take all that stuff out, but that stuff alone will double their sales. Triple. becasue you don't nedd to fill a room to get everything. IT'S IN ONE BOX. [/B][/QUOTE] Sure, it worked fine, but it was very cumbersome to use. Why buy a PlayStation to listen to CDs when you could buy a CD player? It doesn't make any sense, really. The same with the DVD player in the PS2. I don't know how many people are (foolishly, I might add) buying it just for the DVD capabilities, but I assume it's not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 All in one units aren't generally popular for a reason. Why? More crap to break. You get a whopping 3 month warranty on a PS2. If it breaks after that, we're talking $60+ to fix something. What are you going to do with a $700 machine when it decides not to read CDs like so many broken PS2s about? I'd rather take up a bit more room than have that, honestly. It seems like something for hipsters who just have to have the latest crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 3 months? Uhm, it's like a 5 year warranty, where do you get your information? Anyways, like i did, i baught it for the dvd capabilties, sure, but i also got it for the games. Not a single person ever gets something for one thing, they're stupid. But it's that stuf that adds in to the value, like, you can buy a ps2 for 179 and it's 240 value is from the dvd player/cdplayer/cd-rplayer/cd-rw player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Are you talking about the PS2? I was. Even if you weren't, no Sony product has that sort of warranty. It's NOT a 5 year warranty unless you pay the store you bought it from more money for an extended warranty, and those usually top out at 3 years. Sony only does 3 months and that is a fact. Where do [i]you[/i] get [i]your[/i] information? I get mine from the booklets packed in with the PS2. I, and millions of other people, bought our DVD players to watch DVDs. I and millions of others bought portable CD players just to listen to CDs. And so on and so on. I guess we're all stupid. When you buy and all-in-one device, something usually suffers. The PS2 is even a good example. Maybe it's just me, but I don't use the PS2 for any of these things. A DVD player? Maybe if I wasn't smart enough to realize that the PS2 DVD player is one of the worst on the market, it adds edge enhancement and actually degrades picture quality. Why? Who knows. There are seriously $50 DVD players on the market now that put out a better picture, some even in progressive scan. It took them all this time to add progressive scan to the PS2. If anyone uses it to play CDs, I'll be surprised. Am I the only one who bought a PS2 to play games? If you can manage to save up $700 for this, be my guest. It's a neat idea and all... but it's not the second coming of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinmaru Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]3 months? Uhm, it's like a 5 year warranty, where do you get your information? [/B][/QUOTE] Really, this statement is ridiculous when you consider a few simple things... 1) A video game company would have to be crazy to make a 5 year warranty for a console that they'll probably only make games for only five years. It's just not good business. 2) Nintendo has always had the longest warranties for their consoles. It's a fact. And, what is their warranty? According to the instruction booklet included with the GameCube, it has a warranty of exactly 12 months (1 year). So, you see, it's a bit of a stretch (and that's putting it lightly) to say that Sony has a five year warranty for the PS2. Unless you got some sort of special deal that I am not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Well, the ps 1 had a five year manufacturer's warrenty, even if the ps2 didn't. I don't know, but i'll check. Oh, and just so you know the PS1 is over 8 years old and they still make games for that. Just so you know. Anyway, i don't care what anyone says, i will probably get the PSX and i know i'll get the PS3 BABY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinmaru Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]Well, the ps 1 had a five year manufacturer's warrenty, even if the ps2 didn't. I don't know, but i'll check. Oh, and just so you know the PS1 is over 8 years old and they still make games for that. Just so you know.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't see why you have to take on such a condescending attitude. I know that games are still made for the PlayStation; however, that's a rarity in the gaming industry. Usually, when the leap forward to another console is made, the number of games coming out for the old console will slowly trickle down and then stop completely. Besides, how many [i]good[/i] games do you see still being made for the PlayStation? Not many, I'd imagine. And you asked where Tony got his information from earlier, right? Well, I don't think it's too much to ask where you got your information from. Perhaps you can reference the official website or the PlayStation/PS2 instruction manual, if you so firmly believe what you are saying. Until you present some actual proof, I'm not inclined to believe your information. EDIT: Here's a little something Shroom showed me right now that'll validate Tony's claim that the PS2 has a warranty of three months. [quote][i]LIMITED WARRANTY FOR THE PLAYSTATION CONSOLE[/i] Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) warrants to the original purchaser that this product (hardware, game discs and accessories) shall be free from defects in materials and workmanship for a period of [b]ninety (90) days[/b] of the date of the purchase. If this product is determined to be defective during the warranty period, SCEA agrees to either repair or replace, at it's option, the SCEA product. You must call 1-800-345-SONY to recieve instructions to obtain repair/replacement instructions.[/quote] This is from the official instruction manual. As you can see, it clearly states that the console in question has a warranty period of 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heezay Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Been a while since I've been here. To take this in a new direction, aren't the PSX and the PS3 the same thing? I know X-box 2 is coming out sometime but I don't know when; if there is a PS3, it will probably be released at that time. Does anyone know what the sequel to the Gamecube, if there is one, is called? Peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 The PSX is like a downgraded PS3, it';s coming out this winter, or next. The ps3 isn't coming to oh-5, becasue of the silicon cell technology, though they have it done, and could start making them this second. They obviously have somethign planed that the press doesn't know about (no, i'm not talking aobut the PSP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I think this is about the time where I should wash my hands of this thread and label it "Heresy and Rumors." The PS3 is NOT done. The PSX is NOT a downgraded PS3. It's a PS2 with added features, an attempt to make a full set-top box in the vein of the HomeStation rumored to be in the works at Microsoft. Perhaps it will give Sony an idea of how far they can go with the PS3 and what they should stick with and what is simply too niche... but it is not finished in any respect. If you know this for a fact, you basically know more than anyone else in the industry. How can something be a watered down PS3 when the basic game chip set isn't even being changed? Writable features and sound receiver options are what makes the difference? Add in the fact that no one even knows what will be in the PS3 at this point and it makes even less sense. If you're going to say such things, personally I'd like to know what these sources are. They sound like they're coming from something like [url]www.spong.com[/url] (who by the way posts message board jokes as full on, factual news). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Bouncer Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I found some pics of The PSX. [img]http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/news/05/28/psx/psx_screen001.jpg[/img] [img]http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/psx_030528_in_01_large_fixed.jpg[/img] [img]http://eu.playstation.com/iw_images//assets/images/news/03May/news_psx_04_big.jpg[/img] [img] [url]http://eu.playstation.com/iw_images//assets/images/news/03May/news_psx_03_big.jpg[/url][/img] [img]http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/psx_031005_pic3_small.jpg[/img] it looks cool.. especially the color ones. its about the closest thing to the PS2 that we will get til PS3 comes out. I just hope that PSX isnt better than PS3 except in graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 As I just said, it doesn't even have a different game chipset. You're paying for a PS2 with extra features and a new casing. Nothing in terms of the actual games will be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I just want to jump in here and say this: Shinobi1827, please don't post in here again unless you actually know what you're talking about. I'm afraid you're going to drive Semjaza insane at this rate. lol You're running yourself up against people who actually know what they're talking about. So, you can't expect to enter a discussion like this and not get called on incorrect information. [quote][b]Oh, and just so you know the PS1 is over 8 years old and they still make games for that. Just so you know.[/b][/quote] Who are [i]they[/i]? lol Your statement is invalid in the context of this discussion. You haven't effectively responded to Shinmaru's point. Sony no longer lends first party support to the original Playstation. All new releases are either third party sports games or low-grade bargain bin fodder. Use common logic as well. Do you honestly believe that Sony would put a five year warrantee on a console as physically unreliable as the Playstation 2? Come on now. More directly to the point, the PSX is a collectors item. A first stab at offering an entertainment system to hardcore fans or gadget junkies. With its price tag, I would hardly say it?s targeted toward the general masses as opposed to the Playstation 3 (which might be upgradable features wise to keep costs down). It offers no improvement over the core Playstation 2 gaming hardware. Call it a glorified Playstation 2, call it a set top entertainment system, but don't refer to it as Playstation 3-lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 From gamescience.com -- Sony have made some last-minute changes to the specifications of the PSX. First off, the machine will not be compatible with the PlayStationBB service out of the box. They plan to add this compatibility via a firmware upgrade at a later date, though that date is not yet announced. This information can be seen on Sony's own PSX game features page. Other changes include: - HDD to DVD recording speed now 12x (was 24x) - no DVD+RW playback - no CD-R playback - static image compatible formats no longer include GIF and TIFF - Cybershot movie format cannot be downloaded - MP3 playback no longer possible - Number of units to be distributed has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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