sixth sense

[lea]

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do you guys believe in the sixth sense? preminitions, gut feelings, stuff like that? womans intuition?
or do you think its all just dumb luck?[/COLOR]

[AzureWolf]

"Women's intuition..." Yeah, I get a lot of that.

Anyway, yes, I've had enough experiences with it to believe. I mean, I always have this feeling that I've forgotten something. Sometimes I find out what it is before it's too late, and other times, I find the wrong thing (it's usually trivial), but most of the time I just ignore the feeling and regret it later. Haha, it [I]always[/I] happens that I forget something, feel it, but don't realize until it's too late.

Is that what you were talking about, or something else entirely? An example would be helpful. :)

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AzureWolf [/i]
[B]Anyway, yes, I've had enough experiences with it to believe. I mean, I always have this feeling that I've forgotten something. Sometimes I find out what it is before it's too late, and other times, I find the wrong thing (it's usually trivial), but most of the time I just ignore the feeling and regret it later. Haha, it [I]always[/I] happens that I forget something, feel it, but don't realize until it's too late.[/B][/QUOTE]

How is that a sixth sense? It's just being human, and slightly paranoid.

I think anyone who thinks they have a sixth sense is a little conceited. What makes you think you're so special, eh?

[AzureWolf]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]How is that a sixth sense? It's just being human, and slightly paranoid.

I think anyone who thinks they have a sixth sense is a little conceited. What makes you think you're so special, eh? [/B][/QUOTE] Well, that's why I asked if that could be categorized as a "sixth sense" phenomenon. I don't think I'm so special. In fact, why do you think having a sixth sense implies exclusivity? I think you are jumping the gun: Why can't all people have it?

[Guest Crimson Spider]

What people derive as a sixth sense is actually what the other 5 senses along with memory put together almost instantly.

Lates take example you see a beutiful girl walking down the street. She has got red lipstick, dark eyes that are always angry, frown lines, holding her face outward in sort of a forced pouty-look, a stiff walk with arms swaying more than need be, head slightly moves left and right as she walks, looking slightly upward, black shoes with a black dress, dyed highlights of blond in her hair, large breasts that would be more appealing if they weren't sagging from lack of bra wearing over the years, and scoffs as she sees you and walks on, imposing that she's better than you.

First thing that happens, we all think of some girl in our school, neighborhood that looks like that. Second thing we think: Bi___! You can tell just by the description of her that she's mean. But that's a description! But then again, you probably could've also told that she was mean if a girl JUST like that walked by and did the exact same thing in the exact same style of which I described it in, without me describing it.

Now, many people have gone on about auras and such, but just by looking at her, you can tell she's a B. You unoticingly take in these small detials, and make an immediate assumption whether you like it or not. Fine example is the movie blast from the past.

"What about her? She's nice."

"Adam! She has Bi*** written all over her! You do know what Bi*** means, don't you?"

"Why yes, I do have a dictionary. But I don't know why you would say that about her, or why Cliff would say that about you."


You could tell she was. I could. So could about 90% of the population, without being told.

Another example: Avriro Lavine. Just look at her! Once a fan got to spend a day with her, and she always had a seriously bad attitude towards EVERYTHING all the time!

[Guest cloricus]

Sixth sense is very possible since people have only really looked into the blatant sense's and one of the reasons people look to the brain when they think of a sixth sense (telepathy and all that junk) is because it is the part that hasn't fully been understood. All the other parts of the body have been looked at and worked out what they do but the chances that we use any of the possible other senses is just a question that cannot be answered. The reason we have our big brains is to be able to understand our social system and events that happen around us, it's our advantage just like the cheetah has speed. So who's really to say that we don't have any more or that we do?

[James]

[color=#707875]To me, a "sixth sense" implies the ability of the brain to connect to some kind of outside source of information. And then when you talk about a sixth sense being used to read the future or something...that goes even further into being unbelievable.

So, I don't buy the idea that we simply "don't know everything" about the brain and therefore, all of these far-out things are possible. There are already established explanations for many brain-related phenomenon and such. I tend to agree with wrist cutter about the sixth sense question. [/color]

[Guest cloricus]

A sixth sense is just that; another sense just like sight or touch so linking it with "being able to read minds" to generalise is just a case of needing to lay off the sci-fi though yes that [i]could[/i] be possible area's of another sense.
It is true that there is a lot that we don't know about the brain, we don't know how it runs, what it's file system is or even how it interprets I/O on the most part except what we know about the nerve structures so in reality anything could be a use for the rest; how could you know without proof because literally you have the biggest super computer on the planet sitting on your neck and most of it's possessing capacity and some of it's areas are left unused.

Btw I think the idea of another sense is unfounded and why just stop at six; why not have fifty?

[James]

[color=#707875]When people talk about a "sixth sense" though, they are [i]usually[/i] referring to a connection with the supernatural. So I don't think that a realistic discussion of what the brain is capable of even factors into that.[/color]

[lea]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=#707875]When people talk about a "sixth sense" though, they are [i]usually[/i] referring to a connection with the supernatural. So I don't think that a realistic discussion of what the brain is capable of even factors into that.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

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i read an artical that when dealing with people and situations, your gut feeling is usually correct.
the best i can explain it is for example, say your trying to buy a house. if your gut feeling says not to trust the salesperson, even the best liar for a split second or less will show smuggness (ha! i am fooling those lossers), or anxiousness / fear (what if i get caught in a lie /what if they see thats really whitewash hiding the water marks?) on their face or body language. for you to have that gut feeling, your body unconcously picked up on it....
so what i am talking about has more of a scientific base then, say, mind reading or whatever. [/COLOR]

[::Ex-Soldier::]

I don't know too much about gut instinct. But I can say that with me "interest" with graffiti for the past 3 years, I've have many close calls, and some I would thank my gut for helping me out of. It's just a sort of strong feeling.

But I think it's just luck. I mean, even if my friend gets a feeling that someone is watching us, or something bad will happen, we pack up, and leave. A few times I have ignored this gut instinct, and I have had terrible chases.

I'd say, whatever you do, trust your instinct.

[Manic Webb]

I have this weird theory on seeing the future. Bare with me.

The human mind processes information faster than any man-made computer. I believe that if there is a subconsious part of the human mind, it collects information (based on prior knowledge and anything picked up by our 5 senses) and calculates the most probable outcome of any situation. So when you're predicting the future, you're actually calculating the most probable future.

This could also explain why you get that "I think I'm forgetting something" feeling. You subconsious memory (the stuff you've forgotten) is letting you know you're forgetting something.

I'm 80% sure I'm wrong, though. I just think it'd be kool if that's how our minds really worked. Of course, that's assuming there is such thing as "mind." :cross:

[The Original]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lea2385 [/i]
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i read an artical that when dealing with people and situations, your gut feeling is usually correct.
the best i can explain it is for example, say your trying to buy a house. if your gut feeling says not to trust the salesperson, even the best liar for a split second or less will show smuggness (ha! i am fooling those lossers), or anxiousness / fear (what if i get caught in a lie /what if they see thats really whitewash hiding the water marks?) on their face or body language. for you to have that gut feeling, your body unconcously picked up on it....
so what i am talking about has more of a scientific base then, say, mind reading or whatever. [/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE]

Actually, I've been learning about this kind of stuff in my speech class lately. When a person is lying, their brain involuntarily sends them commands to do some of the stuff you mentioned above. Hands fidgeting with the ears or eyes, loss of eye contact, and increase in blinking are a few signs. When a person lies, they become uncomfortable, and their brain subconciously commands them to act out the signs. The same happens when a person is afraid (except the screaming part). If you have a feeling someone is lying, odds are your brain is picking up those signs without your knowing, and recognizing them as clues. What someone might percieve as "intuition" or a gut feeling may simply be a biological recognition of body language.

[Baron Samedi]

Personally, I think that there is something more to our bodies than we know.

Think of deja vu. You remember something happening, or you see something happening, before it happens. Now, how are you supposed to explain that. Random thoughts? Having a scene, [i]exactly[/i] the same as a dream/memory is basically impossible without some form of precognition, whcih relates to a sixth sense. So, in this case I think it is true.

However, with picking up liars or whatever... it could be either, but the scientific explanation seems to fit.

Gut instincts... I get those occasionally, just a little twitch in the back of my mind that "I should do this/ shouldn't do this". And most of the time, if I don't follow these. something happens later, and I realise I should have followed it. I don't know, it could be a combination of paranoia and chance, but some things havn't been explained, so the likelihood of a 'sixth sense' idea, is reasonably high IMO. Within reasonable doubt.

[Brasil]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Manic [/i]
[B]I have this weird theory on seeing the future. Bare with me.

The human mind processes information faster than any man-made computer. I believe that if there is a subconsious part of the human mind, it collects information (based on prior knowledge and anything picked up by our 5 senses) and calculates the most probable outcome of any situation. So when you're predicting the future, you're actually calculating the most probable future.

This could also explain why you get that "I think I'm forgetting something" feeling. You subconsious memory (the stuff you've forgotten) is letting you know you're forgetting something.

I'm 80% sure I'm wrong, though. I just think it'd be kool if that's how our minds really worked. Of course, that's assuming there is such thing as "mind." :cross: [/B][/QUOTE]

Manic, you're not totally far-off, believe it or not.

Speaking from actual, personal experience, the subconscious knows almost everything about you and those around you.

When you get that weird feeling about something, unsure about what is the right choice, that's your subconscious letting you know something is wrong. When you hear that we only use 10% of our brain, it's not so ridiculous. The human mind has an insane amount of potential; we just need to unlock it.

I used to never believe in ESP, telekinesis, telepathy, and stuff like that, but just seeing what I can do with the [i]tiny[/i] amount of potential that I've unlocked, I am seriously interested in just how far I can go.

"Sixth sense," while being a human-made term, is very real. It may not be a [i]conscious[/i] knowledge or power, but the subconscious is definitely working in it.

[ktangelprncss]

I believe in a sixth sense. I've had many 'gut feelings' that have turned out to be true. Also, on what everyone is referring to as the 'sci-fi' sixth sense, I do believe is ESP. It just took one day to get me to believe in ESP. One night I had a dream that I had gotten a bad grade in school, so i was exiled to another school on an island. To get to the school I had to cross a bridge. My mom, and grandma had gone with me to say goodbye, and as we walked across the bridige it collapsed. We all fell into the ocean, my moms jewlery fell off, and sunk, so it was unable to be retrieved, and my grandma ended up in a hospital. The next morning i thought that that had just been a crazy nightmare, but when i went to school i had a feeling that somthing was wrong. I found out that I had almost failed an english test, but when i got home the real horror began. I found out that my grandma was in the hospital with kidney stones, so my family went to visit her, but when we got home we found out that our house had been robbed, and my moms jewlery had been taken. I'm still freaked out by that.
Errrr........
Sorry I write so much, please forgive my rambling!

[RioLaskand]

[quote]
When you get that weird feeling about something, unsure about what is the right choice, that's your subconscious letting you know something is wrong. When you hear that we only use 10% of our brain, it's not so ridiculous. The human mind has an insane amount of potential; we just need to unlock it.[/quote]

I have heard that idea before, and I believe that you are right. Our brain has so much power already, and yet it can still do so much more. I have had times where something did not feel right, or something was coming, and things would happen. I have sat out in a storm, felt a pure energy coming, and have my grandpa die a couple of days later. Many might just call it coincidence, and I respect that, but I can't help but wonder.

I have another question for this thread to ponder about a "sixth sense" of sorts. Has anyone ever had a dream or vision that has come true in their life? I have had many, mostly trivial things, like what would happen in a game ending, what someone would say or do exactly, but one time I dreamed that my girlfriend at the time was crying hysterically over something, and I went in the next day to find out that her dad, who had divorced her mom recently, was getting remarried to a person that he had been seeing while they had been married.

I may not be making sense, but sometimes you just gotta trust yourself, and your gut feelings. The subconcsious has more potential than I think we even realize.

[dark king]

sixth sense is biological beacause we only use about 30% of our brain.
people with a handicap, bad sight, deaf, blind, are missing a tool to absorb the enviroment they are in.
as a result of the missing part the innactive part(s) of the brain start to function as a compromise.
i have bad sight to one eye and i experience that "sixth sense" by better smell, better touch, better hearing and so on.
touch is my most enhanced, because when someone sneaks up on me i feel a change in the aircurrent on my skin, or the pressure inmy ear increase or decreases, or i simply hear the sneaky bastard.
if you have premonitions and gut feeling that is because of when you come across something, your memory stashes it but forgets it later.
while the subcouncious is like an infinite storage tank reminding you: he you forgot something, but because not everybody just has direct contact to their subconcious they don`t know what or have a feeling of he i think i`m forgetting something.
it`s all in the subcouncious.
while some have from their birth
others can learn with training how to be alligned with their subconcious mind.
a little trick for the ones who lose things or want to study good.
if you read something 3 times in a row your mind remembers it.
like this:
i have to study this sentence.
read it 3 times and you will know it.
i hope this was of some help for everybody.

[Guest Crimson Spider]

Actually, we use about 70% of our brain all the time. 60% for our constant feed of senses, and 10% for basic comprehending of this. Then theirs long term memory, some for complex thinking, and then a little left over for repair. So throughout ones life, you use 90-100% of your brain. But 70% for constant income of senses and comprehension of these.

The 10% thing was stated in the 70s. What they did was shock someones brain, and look for stimulus i.e. an arm twitching. And only 10% of the brain would move the body when "Stimulated." So they stupidly jumped to conclusions, and said that's ALL we used, forgetting that we do think, see, feel, smell, and hear. That 10% controlled motor functions and touch. For instance, we use 30% of our brain AT ALL TIMES to see. Seeing takes a WHOLE LOT OF BRAIN TO DO simply because we neglect the fact that humans have the best range of color, and a very good distance. We can tell such detail that it takes our cutting-edge technology just to copy it for the most part. BUT we do see in a 170 degree angle, sometimes a complete 180. While looking at this sentence, you not only see the words, but the gray buttons on the bottem, and those words, and the computer itself, and all details on that, and the desk your compy is sitting on, and everything on it, and the lights comeing from the lamp on the compy desk, or a nearby lamp, or a TV, and all the details on that, and the wall, floor, ceiling. When you read this, all that information is STILL being brought in whether you like it or not. ALL of it. All the colors, the complex change in hue of shading that is frustratingly difficult to copy and has yet to be done, the brightness, contrast, and some objects that emit light itself, the facial features that stick out far enough so you can see them, the billions of different colors. Almost in a strait line across.. Nothing spared! But yet, even though you now DO notice it because I've mentioned it, you only see the little words because you are concentrating on them. You aren't paying attention to all the other objects around you. BUT YOU STILL SEE THEM. Your brain still recieves the signal of light entering the eye and being reflected upon the back of your eye to all those little neurons that put the picture together. You just take no notice of it. That other little 10% of your brain is causing you to only see what it wants to, which is this very post you are reading, and very possibly denying. So if you walk ot into a woods, or onto a park, or drive by the freeway, you will see all those colors of cars, all the little leaves on the ground, or the cloths of the couple kissing under a tree while you sit on a bench. Which brings me to the next point: touch. After sometimes almost instantly, you no longer feel the cloths on your body, nor the chair that is applying pressure to your butt. Nor the temperature of the air, or the very slight currents in it, or the feel of the air moving through your nose, nor the gravity pulling you down, or the hair on your head, or the constant expanding and contracting of the left ventricle in your heart that causes verious areas on your body to pulsate unwillingly. . But right now you do because I've mentioned them. But never-the-less, it is recieved whether we like it or not. But our brain takes no note of it unless we think about it. So the infermation is recieved, then dismissed immediatly. BUT the brain still has to work to recieve it, process it, and ever-so-little to dismiss it. Same thing with hearing, smell, and taste. But vision is the most important here. Our brain cannot use only 10% of itself, because it takes 30% just to see. Our modern day technology has only come close to replicating it, and itself cannot because even with that TV that gateway makes that has billions of colors, it can NEVER show depth, because 1 lense on 1 camera is being put through.

But when we lose senses, that portion of the brain goes to work on other things. Like when a person goes blind, the 30% of the brain that is always working to allow someone to see is no longer in need, so it diverts and it helps the other senses. Very versitile.

Subconcious is what the 10% that comprehends it can put through, using memories and experiences to define a set meaning. Take my other post. That girl who you knew was mean just by looking at her, let alone her walking by you. You could tell because these little details in body language and appearance. Your brain instantly puts it together. 10% that comprehends it puts this together whether you like it or not! It actually turns on other parts of the brain for even a split second to access information from memory that hasn't been "deleted" yet. More like your basic thought. Like that feeling that you shouldn't do something. A thought that you cannot control, because it is influenced upon expereinces in your life. Lets say you were bitten by a dog that you knew well once, as in being attacked. You lived, but were hurt quite badly. The next time you see a dog, you immediatly experience fear whether you like it or not. Can your more complex thought override this? Yep.

But there ARE some things that we can detect without knowing it, as I said before. For instance: When you can tell that someone walks up behind you, you know somehow that a person is behind you. But the 2 things that allow a person to tell this are:

1. Heat. An ever so slight change in heat in any direction gives us the notion that there is someone there, or we are being stalked or followed. Now, the no. 1 thing that most people who deny it say :"Oh! I don't actually think: There's heat behind me. That must be a person. So I'm not doing it!" Yeah, sure. And I guess you just can't stop thinking about that song that's stuck in your head, too. The thing is: You don't. This is that little part of your brain that instantly comprehends this information does it for you. You don't need to think that. You subconciously take note of it, and then make an assumption: there must be someone behind me.

2: The little compass in your nose. That little deposite of iron acts as a reciever for electrical influences, and since the messages sent throughout our body aswell as every person, and visible multi-cellular animals is electrical, we are a walking radio. It's very faint, but I myself have noticed this with the help of another person of course. When someone is walking up to you, you recieve this influence. You CAN take note of it if your paradime allows it. I have. Cool, actually.

Then theirs hearing, such as their footsteps, breathing, wind. Smells. Not all smells are so obvious, such as pheramones emitted by the opposite sex. So touch, hearing, and smell can ALL detect a person behind you. Now, how do you tell who the person behind you is? "I thought it was you!" Well, simple. That little basic understanding. What happens is that as soon as you assume that someone is behind you, this little area kicks in, and IMMEDIATLY makes an assumption on who it is. So you turn around, and if it isn't the person you thought it was, this is dismissed almost immediatly. If there is no one there, you may suspect that person is hiding, or again, dismiss this thought. But if it IS the person you think it is, this thought becomes more apparent to you than ever, simply because it was correct. And when it is dismissed, it isn't "Oh. It wasn't him." Even though this does happen on occasion. It's completely gone. No memory kept, because there is no need for it.

To elaborate on the simple thought that is always on: We can recognize over 300 smells almost instantly. Most as soon as we smell it. Others, we deduce what it is. But the smell of steak, burgers, feasies, colone, cloths, must, garlic is all instantly recognized the second or third time around you smell it. You don't even think about it. Same with hearing: You recognize sounds such as the thousands of voices you here, and little sound effects throughout your daily life almost instantly. But as with vision and touch, most of these is dismissed. Usually because you are either concentrating on another sound, or are used to it, or there is too much noise around you to hear it. Like footsteps. You hear footsteps everywhere you go throughout your life. But do we notice it? Only when it is the only sound around, is brought up like I am doing now, or there is a lack of it and aren't concentrating on something else. Such as with cartoons. The sound of footsteps is eliminated during certain noisy scenes, even if it's there. If it isn't, you are concentrating on the dialogue, or actually watching it. But on occasion, you WILL take note that when Elmer Fudd walks, he makes no sound unless he's climbing up the stairs.

Here's something we can probably all relate to. Lets say your in a gym, someone says "Hey, *so and so*!" and then you look around to see a basketball right in your face because it was hurled towards you. You don't have to abstract think. What happens is that you see the ball, you see it's heading towards you by the increase in size, and your eye can tell depth. First this little part of your brain takes the info of "Hey, *so and so*!" and automatically sees a ball floating in mid air. Immediatly, your brain takes action. It begins the process of taking the data that a ball is being hurled toward you, and that it is very likely it's going to hit your face, which it will if you don't do something very quickly. You are still observing the ball, BTW. Your first reaction is to cover your face with your hands, while rearing back to give you time between the impact to put your hands up. You turn your head to the side, protecting your nose and eyes. Then you begin to duck in an appropriate manner to evade the ball if it is truly comeing towards you, which by now you can usually tell that it is. Then you close your eyes to protect your most vital sense, and mentally brace yourself for an impact, even if you ARE ducking.

This processing takes about less than 1/10th of a second. Faster for some, slower for others. For me, about 7/10ths, sometimes 5/10ths. Like I said, you don't have time to think. But again, you IMMEDIATLY begin to take action. This little area for basic reasoning tells you to rear back to increase the before the impact, you immediatly turn your head to protect your eyes and nose, which would hurt very badly. You immediatly put your hands up to protect your face and head in general. You immediatly take the correct position to duck, and not just duck in a random manner. This little area in your brain is working ALL the time, even in your sleep. For everything you do, and is done to you, this little guy plays a part. Like reading my post. You immediatly take a side. You either agree with me, or disagree with me. You then immediatly are compelled to write up a post. But do you? Not always. This can be from any number of reasons. But abstract thought can override this.

Just FYI: Subliminal messages are NOT picked up by the mind. Having stuff written in a song backwards, or other things like that don't do a thing. But miniscule stuff like body language, and tone of voice are picked up.

Abstract thought. This is what you are probably doing now as you read this. This isn't the instintaneous processing I'm talking about. This is actual THINKING. When you take it beyond what your instant reasoning can tell you. When you think: you are digging through memories, and knowledge and senses. Albert Einstein had himself an enlarged frontal lobe, which is the area for abstract thought. That was why he was so darn smart.

For dreams, this same principal of "Oh, it wasn't you." applies. Like very recently, I had a dream that my sister had gone missing. I get up, and my sister is sitting right in the living room chair watching TV. So this thought is immediatly dismissed as fiction, and forgotten in hours unless somehow jogged. But if there was a similarity to reality, we see it. But we don't see what isn't similar. You can have a dream about somethings happening, and some side effects, and you actually witness something like this happening, and some of these side-effects, but you don't witness what DIDN'T happen.

Your dreams are also manipulated through the day as time goes on. I remember what I had originally written down on what happened in a dream: a very memerable one. But as time went on (hours, not days or weeks or months), this dream had changed drastically from what I originally wrote. A week later, and not only can I barely remember it, but it had still some warped points to it. Cool dream, though. I bet if I told you what I remember from it now, it would still be warped.

A dream itself is basically imaginary. BUT it is influenced by that little basic comprehension, as well as abstract thought. Like most of my dreams: the ones I do remeber are darn cool! In the same dream that I had my sister dissapear, I was also fighting a bunch of robot warriers, who looked a lot like a bunch of robot enemies in a game that I play. My mind constructed them from the game I play. It also took essences from stuff that I like to do, play, what I fear, what I actually think is cool, and put them in there. From movies, TV, books, radio, and my own little imagination can construct something I've never seen before, and never see again except possibly in another dream.

Now, even though they don't know EVERYTHING about the brain, they know a whole lot. A WHOLE lot. They also know a lot about human behavoirs. Psychology, peeps.

And the final ending to my post: In order to see something from the future, or feel an aura, or something like that, you MUST recieve it. You do not have echo-location. All our senses are simply recievers. To see, light which is emmited bounces off an object, and our eyes recieve that, and our brain processes what it is. To hear, a wave of kinestetic energy is sent out, and our ears pick up the frequency, and our brain defines what it is. To smell, a compound has to detach from an object, through chemcial reaction, or from radiation from the object itself, float through the air in which it MAY be lighter, or heavier, and then nose sucks it in, and little processors pick it up, and your brain processes it and recognizes what it is. For touch AND taste, pressure from an object must be applied in order for the signal to be sent to the brain. You must RECIEVE the taste, or touch of an object. It goes back to the brain, gets processed, and the brain recognizes what it is. That 10% for basic thought and reasoning is what recognizes what it is, sometimes with help from abstract thought. To see the future, you have to not only assume it, but actually something HAS to emit information from the future to you, and you recieve it. In order for you to tell if someone is behind you, they EMIT a lot of stuff.

So it's possible... [b][u]IF[/b][/u] someone or something is telling you...

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[Brasil]

CS, do cite your sources, please. I'm curious as to where you found this information. I was unable to find anything confirming the statistics you have offered. So, please direct us to where you found this information.

Thanks.

[Guest Crimson Spider]

O.K. For the statistics on the brain, I got it from a highschool/college book. LIsted the lobes, of course. Frontal, Paretal, another one, and Occipital. Occipital is dedicated soley for sight. I can NEVER remember the last one. Frontal is for abstract thought, basic thought, and something else. And the other 2 lobes have the other senses, and some other stuff. Been about months since I read it, so I can't remember EVERYTHING. The Cerebrum is the only area in which a sixth sense could exist, because the Cerebellum is for balence and coordination, and the brain stem. Do I even need to elaborate for the brain stem? Actually, yes! Your spinal cord actually has parts of brain in it technically. Like when you touch something scolding hot, you actually draw your hand away BEFORE the pain is felt.

"The 10% thing was stated in the 70s. What they did was shock someones brain, and look for stimulus i.e. an arm twitching. And only 10% of the brain would move the body when "Stimulated." So they stupidly jumped to conclusions, and said that's ALL we used, forgetting that we do think, see, feel, smell, and hear. That 10% controlled motor functions and touch."
This was obtained from [u]Exploring psychology[/u]: College book. Has a painting. of a slightly thick lady sitting on a front porch.
"For instance, we use 30% of our brain AT ALL TIMES to see. Seeing takes a WHOLE LOT OF BRAIN TO DO simply because we neglect the fact that humans have the best range of color, and a very good distance."
Health book.
"We can tell such detail that it takes our cutting-edge technology just to copy it for the most part. BUT we do see in a 170 degree angle, sometimes a complete 180. While looking at this sentence, you not only see the words, but the gray buttons on the bottem, and those words, and the computer itself, and all details on that, and the desk your compy is sitting on, and everything on it, and the lights comeing from the lamp on the compy desk, or a nearby lamp, or a TV, and all the details on that, and the wall, floor, ceiling. When you read this, all that information is STILL being brought in whether you like it or not. ALL of it. All the colors, the complex change in hue of shading that is frustratingly difficult to copy and has yet to be done, the brightness, contrast, and some objects that emit light itself, the facial features that stick out far enough so you can see them, the billions of different colors. Almost in a strait line across.. Nothing spared! But yet, even though you now DO notice it because I've mentioned it, you only see the little words because you are concentrating on them. You aren't paying attention to all the other objects around you. BUT YOU STILL SEE THEM. Your brain still recieves the signal of light entering the eye and being reflected upon the back of your eye to all those little neurons that put the picture together. You just take no notice of it. That other little 10% of your brain is causing you to only see what it wants to, which is this very post you are reading, and very possibly denying. So if you walk ot into a woods, or onto a park, or drive by the freeway, you will see all those colors of cars, all the little leaves on the ground, or the cloths of the couple kissing under a tree while you sit on a bench."
One can very VERY easily observe this. I mean, I didn't even know this until another topic about psychic power and stuff on brain percentages. Like I had said: Unless it is brought up, you rarely ever take notice of it. Selective attention. You can notice other things, but you dwell on one thing. Guys this is more extream. That's why girls can multi-task better.
"Which brings me to the next point: touch. After sometimes almost instantly, you no longer feel the cloths on your body, nor the chair that is applying pressure to your butt. Nor the temperature of the air, or the very slight currents in it, or the feel of the air moving through your nose, nor the gravity pulling you down, or the hair on your head, or the constant expanding and contracting of the left ventricle in your heart that causes verious areas on your body to pulsate unwillingly."
Again: easily observed if brought up. I'm sure you didn't notice the feeling of the chair your sitting on. BUT when one sense experiences something constantly, you get used to it and your brain dismisses it. If you listen to the same song on a CD over and over, you forget it's there! Ever wonder why you can never smell your own BO unless you directly sniff your underarm?
"But right now you do because I've mentioned them."
Selective attention: By reading this, your attention is brought to all the little things your 5 senses pick up."
But never-the-less, it is recieved whether we like it or not. But our brain takes no note of it unless we think about it. So the infermation is recieved, then dismissed immediatly. BUT the brain still has to work to recieve it, process it, and ever-so-little to dismiss it. Same thing with hearing, smell, and taste. But vision is the most important here. Our brain cannot use only 10% of itself, because it takes 30% just to see."
Restating topic. People can read my posts, and just plain not see what I'm saying.
"Our modern day technology has only come close to replicating it, and itself cannot because even with that TV that gateway makes that has billions of colors, it can NEVER show depth, because 1 lense on 1 camera is being put through. "
Biological fact: In order to see depth, you need a second eye. For true depth in a TV, a second one is needed to be positioned at an exact point. THEN you would see depth.

Exploring psychology: College book. That's where I get a WHOLE lot of my information.

"But when we lose senses, that portion of the brain goes to work on other things. Like when a person goes blind, the 30% of the brain that is always working to allow someone to see is no longer in need, so it diverts and it helps the other senses. Very versitile."
Common sense. I'm not the only one who's said this here.

"Subconcious is what the 10% that comprehends it can put through, using memories and experiences to define a set meaning. Take my other post. That girl who you knew was mean just by looking at her, let alone her walking by you. You could tell because these little details in body language and appearance. Your brain instantly puts it together. 10% that comprehends it puts this together whether you like it or not! It actually turns on other parts of the brain for even a split second to access information from memory that hasn't been "deleted" yet. More like your basic thought. Like that feeling that you shouldn't do something. A thought that you cannot control, because it is influenced upon expereinces in your life. Lets say you were bitten by a dog that you knew well once, as in being attacked. You lived, but were hurt quite badly. The next time you see a dog, you immediatly experience fear whether you like it or not. Can your more complex thought override this? Yep."
I've explained many points of this before, such as my Listy listy which tells what defines EXACTLY who you are. But by telling yourself that the dog won't hurt you, you can overcome your fear, and it will eventually leave. Sceince channel helped in explaining this, aswell as when you do something risky for the first time. Bhudests also proved this. They can overcome the feeling of pain, and many human desires.

"But there ARE some things that we can detect without knowing it, as I said before. For instance: When you can tell that someone walks up behind you, you know somehow that a person is behind you. But the 2 things that allow a person to tell this are:"
This was actually refering to touch only.

"1. Heat. An ever so slight change in heat in any direction gives us the notion that there is someone there, or we are being stalked or followed. Now, the no. 1 thing that most people who deny it say :"Oh! I don't actually think: There's heat behind me. That must be a person. So I'm not doing it!" Yeah, sure. And I guess you just can't stop thinking about that song that's stuck in your head, too. The thing is: You don't. This is that little part of your brain that instantly comprehends this information does it for you. You don't need to think that. You subconciously take note of it, and then make an assumption: there must be someone behind me."
Here listed is the no 1 reason why I myself didn't believe almost all of what psychology said. Also explaines the whole 10%. If you actually try, you can take note of the heat. But you have to TRY.

"2: The little compass in your nose. That little deposite of iron acts as a reciever for electrical influences, and since the messages sent throughout our body aswell as every person, and visible multi-cellular animals is electrical, we are a walking radio. It's very faint, but I myself have noticed this with the help of another person of course. When someone is walking up to you, you recieve this influence. You CAN take note of it if your paradime allows it. I have. Cool, actually. "
It was the most peculiar way I found out about this. I first read in a small facts book that you DO have a compass in your nose from Iron deposites. Then when someone brought it up, they proved it to me by sticking a rubber-dart to my head, having me close my eyes. Sure, I felt the heat of his hand. But I also felt an extreamly strange pressure between my eye-lashes down to wear my eye-sockets started. Very strange. Can't explain it, because you would have to feel it for yourself.

"Then theirs hearing, such as their footsteps, breathing, wind. Smells. Not all smells are so obvious, such as pheramones emitted by the opposite sex."
Body story. We actually DO emit pheramones. I elaborated on it once.
"So touch, hearing, and smell can ALL detect a person behind you. Now, how do you tell who the person behind you is? "I thought it was you!" Well, simple. That little basic understanding. What happens is that as soon as you assume that someone is behind you, this little area kicks in, and IMMEDIATLY makes an assumption on who it is. So you turn around, and if it isn't the person you thought it was, this is dismissed almost immediatly. If there is no one there, you may suspect that person is hiding, or again, dismiss this thought. But if it IS the person you think it is, this thought becomes more apparent to you than ever, simply because it was correct. And when it is dismissed, it isn't "Oh. It wasn't him." Even though this does happen on occasion. It's completely gone. No memory kept, because there is no need for it. "
Paradime: The refusial to deviate from a norm established in ones mind. Just incase you were wondering. Got that from careers class. Paradimes have been proven to severly cripple the work place.

You can tell this simply because of that occasional "Oh. It wasn't him." that you actually THINK about when you think you are 100% sure. But fact is: you aren't always thinking about the same person. And it ISN'T always the same person. You see, there are many things that your mind keeps ONLY upon occasion. Can I give you a list? Nope. Simply because I cannot think of them right now, and I don't remember them.

"To elaborate on the simple thought that is always on: We can recognize over 300 smells almost instantly."
I got that from a facts and records book. Also told me that the largest cheeseburger weighed... I think 400 pounds. Prolly wrong on that.
"Most as soon as we smell it. Others, we deduce what it is. But the smell of steak, burgers, feasies, colone, cloths, must, garlic is all instantly recognized the second or third time around you smell it. You don't even think about it."
I was going on about stuff I already mentioned. BUT as soon as I brought it up, I smelled the potatoes, hamburgers, onions, and mustard without even trying. Later defined the smell of my dog, and ketchup.
"Same with hearing: You recognize sounds such as the thousands of voices you here, and little sound effects throughout your daily life almost instantly."
Another fact easily observed if you notice it. You can recognize your friends voice, even in a distance. People who you don't like, too.
"But as with vision and touch, most of these is dismissed." This was refering to the small sounds.
"Usually because you are either concentrating on another sound, or are used to it, or there is too much noise around you to hear it. Like footsteps. You hear footsteps everywhere you go throughout your life. But do we notice it? Only when it is the only sound around, is brought up like I am doing now, or there is a lack of it and aren't concentrating on something else. Such as with cartoons. The sound of footsteps is eliminated during certain noisy scenes, even if it's there. If it isn't, you are concentrating on the dialogue, or actually watching it. But on occasion, you WILL take note that when Elmer Fudd walks, he makes no sound unless he's climbing up the stairs."
Going on about stuff I've already said.

"Here's something we can probably all relate to. Lets say your in a gym, someone says "Hey, *so and so*!" and then you look around to see a basketball right in your face because it was hurled towards you. You don't have to abstract think. What happens is that you see the ball, you see it's heading towards you by the increase in size, and your eye can tell depth. First this little part of your brain takes the info of "Hey, *so and so*!" and automatically sees a ball floating in mid air. Immediatly, your brain takes action. It begins the process of taking the data that a ball is being hurled toward you, and that it is very likely it's going to hit your face, which it will if you don't do something very quickly. You are still observing the ball, BTW. Your first reaction is to cover your face with your hands, while rearing back to give you time between the impact to put your hands up. You turn your head to the side, protecting your nose and eyes. Then you begin to duck in an appropriate manner to evade the ball if it is truly comeing towards you, which by now you can usually tell that it is. Then you close your eyes to protect your most vital sense, and mentally brace yourself for an impact, even if you ARE ducking."
Anyone can see this... almost. It actually has to Happen, which for most of us, it has. You see, all through elementry and middle school, I was a PURE WHITE boy in a lower-class mexican school. Low skin pigmintation. So I was picked on often. And we liked to play dodge-ball, which I was good_at. I've had so many balls hit my face it's rediculess. Um... that didn't sound right. But you KNOW what I mean. So I know plenty of what happens. And when things explode, or shock, or there's a flash of light. Other people do this too. Now, before someone says: "Oh! I've been smacked in the face by a ball without doing any of that stuff!" There is many factors, such as the speed of which your brain works, the speed of the ball thrown at you, and if you aren't very alert at the moment.

"This processing takes about less than 1/10th of a second. Faster for some, slower for others. For me, about 7/10ths, sometimes 5/10ths."
Observed in reaction-time and reflex tests. You see, pressing a button when a little explosion goes off takes about 1/10th of a second for me, but that's to do it, not actually come up with it. Notice how I said process[u]ing[/u] and not process.
"Like I said, you don't have time to think. But again, you IMMEDIATLY begin to take action. This little area for basic reasoning tells you to rear back to increase the before the impact, you immediatly turn your head to protect your eyes and nose, which would hurt very badly. You immediatly put your hands up to protect your face and head in general. You immediatly take the correct position to duck, and not just duck in a random manner."
Observations. I wasn't the only kid who was beaned by basketballs in the face. But sometimes you ONLY duck, or actually smack the ball away. Depends on which action comes first. But what I mentioned is the most likely to happen.
"This little area in your brain is working ALL the time, even in your sleep."
Re-iterating myself... again.
"For everything you do, and is done to you, this little guy plays a part. Like reading my post. You immediatly take a side. You either agree with me, or disagree with me. You then immediatly are compelled to write up a post. But do you? Not always. This can be from any number of reasons. But abstract thought can override this."
Talking about how chances are after I'm done with this, someone will post something denying EVERYTHING before I explain where I got it. But there IS some people in which this guy doesn't filter out everything. Saw it on discovery channel. These people are downright overwhelmed at all times by everything! Poor guys and girls. But notice how I said compelled. People don't take proper wording when they read my post.
"Just FYI: Subliminal messages are NOT picked up by the mind. Having stuff written in a song backwards, or other things like that don't do a thing. But miniscule stuff like body language, and tone of voice are picked up."
Actually, some are. But your brain doesn't act on it.

"Abstract thought. This is what you are probably doing now as you read this. This isn't the instintaneous processing I'm talking about. This is actual THINKING. When you take it beyond what your instant reasoning can tell you. When you think: you are digging through memories, and knowledge and senses. Albert Einstein had himself an enlarged frontal lobe, which is the area for abstract thought. That was why he was so darn smart."
If you cannot tell this by now, then I don't know how to explain it to you. This is when you actually try to understand something, or think hard. Correction: Albert Einstein had his Parital lobe enlarged, but it was right behind his frontal lobe. And he was smart at some things, and dumb at others.

"For dreams, this same principal of "Oh, it wasn't you." applies. Like very recently, I had a dream that my sister had gone missing. I get up, and my sister is sitting right in the living room chair watching TV. So this thought is immediatly dismissed as fiction, and forgotten in hours unless somehow jogged. But if there was a similarity to reality, we see it. But we don't see what isn't similar. You can have a dream about somethings happening, and some side effects, and you actually witness something like this happening, and some of these side-effects, but you don't witness what DIDN'T happen. "
Pretty much applying what I had said, and known to dreams. You look for similarities. Favorites that support what you want, and don't bother to look at some other things. An example which happended at lunch today: I once asked a guy if he would run through a room full of naked women and the only cost that he would be in the nude too. He said he would. I then told him that he was going to run through the retirement home, because that's what he agreed to and he didn't actually ASK the stuff he didn't know. He immediatly took what he favored, and left it at that.

"Your dreams are also manipulated through the day as time goes on. I remember what I had originally written down on what happened in a dream: a very memerable one. But as time went on (hours, not days or weeks or months), this dream had changed drastically from what I originally wrote. A week later, and not only can I barely remember it, but it had still some warped points to it. Cool dream, though. I bet if I told you what I remember from it now, it would still be warped."
Conclusion from an experoment explained above. What I actually remember is that I was a renegade. All pre-teens and teens were being hauled off and executed because they were trying to eliminate Small pox, and were using SUV's with lazers and tanks. But I think it originally was chicken pox. I don't know, because I had forgotten in a matter of hours. That, and no one ever tells me the exact same dream twice. It's always different somehow.

"A dream itself is basically imaginary. BUT it is influenced by that little basic comprehension, as well as abstract thought. Like most of my dreams: the ones I do remeber are darn cool! In the same dream that I had my sister dissapear, I was also fighting a bunch of robot warriers, who looked a lot like a bunch of robot enemies in a game that I play. My mind constructed them from the game I play. It also took essences from stuff that I like to do, play, what I fear, what I actually think is cool, and put them in there. From movies, TV, books, radio, and my own little imagination can construct something I've never seen before, and never see again except possibly in another dream."
Um... do I really need to explain this?

"Now, even though they don't know EVERYTHING about the brain, they know a whole lot. A WHOLE lot. They also know a lot about human behavoirs. Psychology, peeps. "
Who didn't know this?

"And the final ending to my post: In order to see something from the future, or feel an aura, or something like that, you MUST recieve it. You do not have echo-location. All our senses are simply recievers. To see, light which is emmited bounces off an object, and our eyes recieve that, and our brain processes what it is. To hear, a wave of kinestetic energy is sent out, and our ears pick up the frequency, and our brain defines what it is. To smell, a compound has to detach from an object, through chemcial reaction, or from radiation from the object itself, float through the air in which it MAY be lighter, or heavier, and then nose sucks it in, and little processors pick it up, and your brain processes it and recognizes what it is. For touch AND taste, pressure from an object must be applied in order for the signal to be sent to the brain. You must RECIEVE the taste, or touch of an object. It goes back to the brain, gets processed, and the brain recognizes what it is. That 10% for basic thought and reasoning is what recognizes what it is, sometimes with help from abstract thought. To see the future, you have to not only assume it, but actually something HAS to emit information from the future to you, and you recieve it. In order for you to tell if someone is behind you, they EMIT a lot of stuff."
Our senses are input only. Even though you do use your tongue to talk, you aren't tasting words. It isn't the eyes that tell me a person is sad. It's the tearing up around the eyes. The eyes aren't giving the message: The tears are. That's an assumtion, being sad. They could be almost about to sneeze for all I know. But you only know 2 things: what you observe, and what your told.


Any other questions, feel free to ask.

But you don't hear about paradimes, or group polarization, or projection on the internet. Only from the most reliable source you can get anything from: A book. The internet is the most UNreliable. I've seen absolute crap on the internet before.

[Kyoko Makashiro]

OK, OK, don't call me paranoid for this....but sometimes, at random, I have this really creepy way of telling what's gonna happen. Actually, it's more like deja vuu, but it's really weird....

For instance, I'm at a restaurant with my family. Someone picks up a fork to serve themself with, and all of a sudden, I KNOW what's gonna happen, because, maybe in my dreams or something, I've seen it happen.

Don't witch-hunt me!!

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