Guest cloricus Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 This is just kind of an interest thing for me. A few years ago I had an English teacher, a decent one, and she left to go teach in America. (Better pay.) While she was there she sent an email to our class explaining what school was like there compared to here and it to me kind of sounded fake, though she came back to Australia soon after because she couldn?t stand it. Anyway in her letter she was talking about school rules and what it was like after that long run of school killings and the attack on the pentagon and world trade centres. In it she included things like every where they went they had to go as a group, every one was under constant watch and if you went off some where it was with a teacher also there were strict searching of students and their lockers. She noted that out in the country schools it wasn?t as harsh but the same sort of rules were in place. So are things like this happening in schools true or was she over exaggerating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 [color=royalblue]Well at our school, you can basically do whatever the **** you want. As long as it's losely defined in the rules.....you're okay. If you're not tardy and not cutting, you can carve your name into the concrete for all the teachers care. We're not a terribly strict school, as long as you follow some semblance of the rules. Maybe the teacher was just here at a....*snort* Bad time. But otherwise our schools aren't really like that. IN California anyways. I can't say the same thing for the rest of the the country. She should come teach at James Logan. WE'll drive her nuts, but only because we're so wild.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kei Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 [color=darkblue]Our school is currently [i]trying[/i] to be that strict. The backpack searches they issue when you come in have gotten a lot more serious lately. They also have a no-pass policy in effect and if you need to go to the restroom or something, you have to have an administrative escort. It's all very stupid, as none of it actually works. The only thing that does is the new "Hall Sweep" rule, where if you come tardy to 1st period, you automatically get a parent conference and if your parents don't come, you get sent to Juvenile for truancy. If you're caught skipping from 2nd-6th, you're automatically suspended for three days. They've already caught over 100 people. It's my assumption that all this is to prevent school violence and to have kids actually come to class. I can understand this to a certain extent, but its largely a big waste of time and effort. I guess that's my roundabout way of saying she wasn't exaggerating. ^^;[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 [color=hotpink][size=1]Well, Jones County wasn't too bad, at least, it never bothered me. We had a pretty loose dress code (people still can't stand it...and neither could I. You had to tuck in your shirt if it touched your belt. That was crappy...) and we weren't allowed to carry bookbags around school or to class, and we had to have our hand book signed as a pass EVERYWHERE we went, but I enjoyed that sort of atmosphere. It keeps idiots from wandering the halls (which they still manage to do every now and then) and you don't have to worry about bookbags. The dress code, heh. I never once had to tuck in a shirt, although the guys were usually tortured constantly if their's wasn't. Not too bad. I say a school is only decent if it has nice rules and can actually enforce them. It's not like they were suffocating us. ^_^ College...do we even HAVE rules?[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 We have a uniform, and it has to be worn properly but towards the end of the year people tend to stop caring and teachers have the same attitude so people wear weird shoes and change the shirt to a white one just for some thing different. Other than that there are rules and most follow them, but none even as strict as what you've said above. If we get to school late we go to the office and grab a late slip (for "in the event of fire" case only so they have numbers for how many there should be in a count) or if you know which teacher you've got you just sweet talk them and they tick you as present and that?s if they even take a full roll every day. You can basically walk off school premises at any time and go where you want but if you a caught you can get in a bit of trouble (a friday detention) for putting the school at a legal risk. During lunch time you can go any where as long as it's on school grounds, most of which doesn't have a teacher within 500 meters. And lockers are checked at the beginning and end of the year, unless extremely serious alligations are made about one. My school is a catholic school and one the strictest I?ve been to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 [color=deeppink]What level of school did your teacher come over here to teach, cloricus? It's possible that she was teaching middle school [usually kids age 9-13 or so] or younger, and that's why their rules were so strict. Or it's also possible that she was teaching at a very large high school where violence was a problem. It seems like where she was was a bit extreme, heh. Our high school was trying to crack down on rules the two years before I graduated. I could tell a major difference in the enforcement of school policies between my first and last years there, mainly due to the fact that, my freshman year, we moved into a brand new building halfway through the year. They started making up all of these crazy rules like signs on lockers being fire hazards and such. Most of them were pretty much ignored by the students who knew the old way of life in the old building. Looking back on it, I don't think that school districts being so uptight about rules is really that bad. Due to the law, they ARE responsible and serving as your parental guardians while you are on school grounds. Should anything happen to you on those grounds, even if it was your own stupid fault, the school is completely liable and open to lawsuits. So of course they're going to have strict rules, their ***** [and assets, lol] are at stake. However, I'm glad I'm out of high school, the whole middle school and high school experience was kind of horrible. College rocks ;)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawstar69 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Hmm... I'm a senior in high school this year; and I am glad that my school never went to such lengths. For one reason, it's relativitly poor (being a rural school and all). They put in a dress code of sorts, which gets violations everyday; we're not allowed to have backpacks, and we have to have passes to everywhere. (Some people don't though :rolleyes: ) Being a senior, they're at the point where they don't care what you're doing, as long as it's not illegal. Having a modified scheduale, I can come in at pretty much any time in the day and never be late. :) *Oh yeah, BabyGirl, I agree with you on the college thing. I can't wait to go next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.D. Ryoko Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 In elementry and jr.high, my schools were like that. We had to wear uniform and travel to classes with each other. In my highschool, we can dress how we want to, but there are still a bit of rules on whatever you have to wear. Also in my school, lockers don`t get inspected for anything, however my friend`s school is like that. What state was your teacher teaching in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiccansamurai Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 If anyone gets in trouble for soemthing at my school, it'll never be the dress code, Hahahah (inside joke, sorry) Seriously, I think some girls could come to school wearing nothing and not get in trouble, lol. But my school is okay, no locker searches so far. I'm a freshman, so I'm not really sure if they have any at all. I know we're not allowed to carry bookbags and need passes to be in the hallway during class. But no one has ever followed those rules, lol. In fact, they only consider it a bookbag if they are sure you are carrying books in it, and I had a teacher sign my pass book so I could something from my locker, but i never put the date or time in, so I have a key to the whole school, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rttocs77 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Correct me if I am wrong Dagger Uh...My school (I wasn't there last year, but so I've heard) had to stay inside the school buildings during the sniper ordeal. Being sort of off subject, they also had a day off in order to protest the war. They don't really have searched that I have seen. There seems to be a problem with abusing prescription drugs (most notably, Ritilin) We don't need hall passes or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B][color=deeppink]They started making up all of these crazy rules like signs on lockers being fire hazards and such.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [FONT=arial]Jenna, I just had to quote you--you managed to mention two of my friends' inside jokes within the space of six words. ("signs on lockers" and "fire hazards," although I'm sure it doesn't make sense to you, heh.) My school isn't strict, exactly. They have a lot of rules, but very few people follow them, anyway. They aren't really enforced, except by the chemistry teacher.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carr Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 [color=tomato] [size=1] ^_^ Fire hazards and locker signs. Fun stuff. We do have a lot of rules at are school, but ,as Sara said, no one follows them. However, I think they have tried to make it stricter. We had a nice long talk at the end of last year and the begining of this year about dress code. The truancy rules are pretty strict as well. Also, one of my friends made the Dean of Student real mad last year by hanging up signs on Anarchy, so now there are srictly no signs allowed. They are forms of individuality and a locker is not the place to express this. Other than that, the rules are pretty lax, but I supose that is because it is a small private school: we really don't have to worry about too many fights, theft or such. I can see why the rules would be tighter for a larger school.[/size] [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 The school I went to was pretty much like the one described by Cloricus, but with moderations as it was in a rural area. I say was because I finished high school last week!!! Anyway, I was thinking about asking a question and this thread seemed relevant. My sister told me that in New York schools they've had to re-educate children on how to speak English because of the highly colloquial diction they have adopted. Now they learn "English" as they would "Spanish" or "Japanese". I was wondering if there was any truth to this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 [COLOR=indigo]Well, I haven't actually been in High School for about five years (Class of '99) But I went to a private school complete with the uniforms. (damn those ugly things!) We had regular school rules, but then the teachers in some of the classes went and made their own. I had an english teacher one year who wouldn't allow gum chewing in her class. But then I had another english teacher who would let us chew gum as long as we didn't snap it. We could carry back packs and had our own lockers. (Columbine was my senior year) And high school students could have stuff like asprin or Pamprine, but we weren't alloed to share it. However, we did because what girl would leave another girl to be miserable with menstral cramps. My brother went to a public school for 8th grade and high school because he caused too much trouble in 7th grade at the other school. And my cousin goes to the same school now. THey have to carry all sorts of crap in their book bags and all doors but the front entrance are locked after school starts.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rttocs77 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Hm. It seems quite a few people here go to or went to a private school. Am I right in that assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Only 5% of all Americans attend a privet high school. It was on tv last night talking about how American's saved up for collages, in relation to our changing laws over here for uni. [quote]What level of school did your teacher come over here to teach, cloricus?[/quote]BabyGirl I believe she was, at the time of writing the letter, in a rather large high school. She also commented that the week before two boys had a go at each other, like they were really out to kill each other. o_0! I think I would really hate being in an American school with some of the restrictions you guys are talking about. I notice you guys aren't really into uniforms? I find that a bit odd, I used to hate them in primary school but by year nine in high school I was happy with them. You put them on and you clean them at the end of the week, easy. You don't have to worry about fashion or not wearing dirty cloths when you run out and stuff like that, also cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 [color=royalblue]I did private school for two years before my four year trip in highschool. By the end of the second year, I was ready to kill something. Uniforms can't be required by state law, but they can be reccomended for parent's sanity's sake. Large highschools have violence, and those restrictions everyone's talking about.... bah, I must go to a very relaxed school. We have almost NO dress code. As long as it doesn't say anything along the lines of **** YOU UP THE *** and covers everything a bikini covers, you can pull it off. Don't get me started on how many hookers we had for this year's Halloween. We think backpacks are nice, and lockers are nice too, and if you're randomly searched, pray to god you don't have anything incriminating on your person. No, it doesn't happen too often. All my friends have knives on themselves, me included. ....only mine is a utility knife and less than two inches long. As for tardy, we have the 10/10 rule. If you're caught anywhere from 0 to 10 minutes after the bell rings without a pass, you're in detention. If you're wandering around without one 10 minutes before the next bell, same fate. It works, we have less tardys than the average school. But on the other side, we also feel more compelled to hate administrators.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiccansamurai Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 If you're caught with any kind of weapon, you get expelled. A kid at my school had gone on a camping trip over a weekend. Having no chance to unpack his truck, he had some sharp camping tools (forgot what exactly) the school found them, he explained. He got expelled. Zero tolerance. Oh, and some of the teachers reinforce nonexistant rules! One of my friends got hauled (literall pulled) off from an assembly for not standing during the school song. The teacher grabbed her wrists and pulled her out of the auditorium. She's not the best teacher. My other friend has her, and during PT confrences, here was the conversation I heard about coming from the guidance councillor (sp?) "He's getting a D in World Cultures... Oh, forget it, he has Andraki. It doesn't matter, then." LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 What grade was she teaching in, and where? I'm in middle school, our grades ranging from 5-7. And our rules aren't as strict as some might be. But it may be because our school building, is kinda, split up into grades. And students aren't allowed to go into the grades with older students. That's most one of the only main rules kids fallow at my school. Actually there are a ton of rules at the school, but most of them aren't in forced as much as they should. And are offend broken anyways, even when they are. And the only consequence if caught is taking with one of the school's principal. Students don't have to walk in group, and are free to go almost where ever they please. Most students cuts classes, and are tardy to many of their classes. We don't really have a dress code either. The school only has a few things, like students can't wear only certain things. As like dog collars, chains, etc. And we only have uniforms for P.E. And most kids don't wear the uniforms then either. The lockers aren't really checked, and if they are. It's only 6 times a year to make sure the lockers are clean and in working order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 [COLOR=indigo]Oh boy gotta love those hallway brawls. The most memorable one was during my Sophomore year. THese two girls had this big falling out. At first they were just yelling then one grabbed the other by her sweater and threw her against the bookdrop. My friends and I snuck out early sometimes and ditched prep-rallies. We'd usually go to movies or to eat. My husband went to a public school in the city and they had all sorts of fun. A teacher got smacked in the face with a sock full of combination locks which were meant for another student and most of the kids there dropped out-he was one of them. Of course some of them go and get their GEDs as well. Where I live we also have a school called The School Without Walls. I don't exactly know what it's for, but I know a girl who goes there. I guess looking back I did kinda like my uniform for regular school-I just wish the sweater wasn't so itchy! I hated my PE uniform tho. Bright yellow t-shirt and a pair of bright blue sweat shorts Eww.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanariya Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Well I'm in middle school, and police don't go in the school and go raiding through people's lockers to see if they are carrying drugs. They just give people tickets if they are parked in the bus loop. I'm attending a magnet program school called Sudbrook. I hate it so much! I hate the uniform so much! The only thing decent is the shirt, and I hate skirts, so I only wear capris or pants. We of course can't wear jeans, and no hallway fights. What a life. But we do have rules not to fight, and they don't care about cuss words unless you like yell it out loud. (Well I just broke a rule on Friday) And we have to wear our uniforms although some people try to wear really dark jeans into school. In my elemantary school I didn't have uniforms, and I'm probably going to go to Catonsville High when I'm in high school. I plan on not attending a private school. My sister attends a Catholic School; oh that's off my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shorty Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Hey guys at my school we can do what ever the f@#k we want to do. The only things we get in trouble for is fighting,blah blah blah blah blah, I really think it is stupid. Well on reason I think it is stupid is because I already got into 13 fights this year and 5 of them were just last week and I always end up going to the vice principals office(he knows what to do better then the principal does) but any way so I always have to meet with my parents and talk about it. But anyway at my school we can do whatever the f^%k we want to do, execpt fight. Oh this gives me an example the other day a high schooler came with a knife out ready to kill two of my friends(by the way I am in Middle school) and he asked kids if they seen them and they all didnt care. so ya we can do whatever the f%^k we want. ~*Married to my Inuluv1 November 20, 2003*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shorty Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Sorry about the double posting but The hallway fights I say are the best indeed. I forgot to tell you guys something though, last year I had the greatest fight of my life k here it goes, well I was in p.e. and we were playing basketball that day and this kid just slamed me against the ground and this kid was huge I say he was about 7 feet tall(exargerating) but I had the ball and I was laying on the ground so I hucked the ball at him and missed, so I got up and started to walk towards him and he started to back off and right there I hit him clean in the jaw, but at first I thought I got him in the nose because it felt really flimsy, but after I hit him he put his hand to his mouth and pulled it away only to see a covered with blood hand so he stumbled and falled got up and ran out into the hallway(thank god we had a substitute that day or hell I would have been caught) and the sub asked what happened, and he was all I ran into the bleachers(because he didnt want to get in trouble for fighting)so she believed him and he came back with his shirt practically covered in blood, but the good part is he had braces on and I bent those suckers to hello,but after he ran off I felt a Pain in my hand so I looked at and it was gashed open and bleeding like hello but I just looked at it and kept playin again, and I still have the mark,and the blood is still on the gym floor it soaked into the wood and there is puddles of blood from me and him. I am not lying about this fight I even Swear on the Holy Bible that I am not lyin. ~*Married to my Inuluvr1 November 20, 2003*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 You know what the single largest problem at my school is? People calling in fake bomb threats. We all have to evacuate, and bam, there's half an hour of class down the drain. >=( Other than that, we have it pretty good. No guns (that are reported), no drugs (that are reported), and no teen pregnancies (that I am aware of). We're pretty lucky. For a point of reference, I go to Bloomingdale High School, in Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawstar69 Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 My my.. what violence runs amongst us all! How could you be a part of that and say how magnificient it is? You guys got hurt. Sure, I like the occasional bout to see every once in a while, but when blood spills that's getting serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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