Anime Do adults like to critisize anime?

[Katana]

After reading the thread about the women trying to sue Cartoon Network for showing FLCL, it became quite apparent to me that people like picking on animes.
What am I saying? you ask. Welll, its quite simple. Just think about your favorite anime. Okay, lets say its DragonBall Z. Then compare it to a cartoon on CN. Powerpuff Girls. Compare the two and the results will always be:
Powerpuff Girls is so much less violent.
Or at least, that's what overprotective, single minded parents/adults will say. They think that the PPG are innocent because their little girls with big eyes and cute personalities. Then they think that DBZ is violent because it shows blood, violence, and people getting beaten up.
Question: Doesn't PPG contain the same thing?
I've realized that, when people say bad things about an anime and think that a certain cartoon is child-safe, do they not realize that cartoons could be even more violent than an Adult Swim anime?
Cartoons such as Dexter's Lab, Looney Tunes, and Ed, Edd, and Eddy show tons of violence and more nudity than the average anime? The adults think they're okay because they supposivly put them in "light and humorus" ways. Eh.
I find EE & E a pretty disturbing show. Three boys running around, ripping off neighborhood kids for money and jawbreakers, the almost endless rear-end nudity, and yet it's worser than animes?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KarmaOfChaos [/i]
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I really don't see how this woman can criticize shows like Pokemon and DBZ. There are many cartoons that are far more violent, and treat violence in a much lighter manner. x.X Like Cow and Chicken. That show still scares me, it's just so...messed up. Yet you don't hear anyone complaining about that. They complain about anime because it takes violence in a more serious manner(like DBZ) rather than light hearted 'oh, I just bashed your skull in, but you can bounce right back up because you're a sweet and innocent cartoon'. Frankly, I'd think parents would want their kids watching DBZ versus bugs bunny or something because it doesn't act like everyone's invincible (although we all know Goku could kick Freiza's butt any day, and twice on Sundays. ^-~) whereas bugs bunny, they just keep ripping eachother apart. And people wonder why I hate Tweety...violence against cats, hello?!

And as sad as that woman is, the woman who sued CN for FLCL is 100 times worse. This generation is going to hell while their mommies whine about violent programming. Parents should be paying attention to what their kids are DOING, not what's on TV that they don't approve of. -.-"

[i]-Karma[/i]

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(This was in a different thread of mine)
The point I'm trying to make is, [b]Why do parents like to bash anime?[/b] Is this the generation that grew up hating Japan because of Peral Harbor, or is this the over-protective generation of parents who think they can sheild their kids from everything "violent" (and make them sissies while their at it)? Look around you. Everything in your normal day life is violent. Things in the news, going to school and learning about assasinations in history, and seeing a kid get hit in the head with a basketball; all of those things are violent. And are parents bashing those? No, their too busy trying to rid the world of anime.

[DevilishAngel]

well, i think my parents aren't too fond of anime cause they're afraid it ll bring my grades dooowwwnn.......but did it? NO! still, they don't know what kind of anime me n my sis watch so that's ok...i try to keep it a secret....^o^.

i completely agree with you Katana....other cartoons are just plainly as violent....but though anime has violence, i think it makes much more sense....(did anyone understand that?) ok, i'll give an example....take dexter's lab.....all he does is experiment with all that wierd stuff he has lying around....and then sometimes Deedee PUSHES a button and *BOOM* dexter is in another dimension or somethin and has to get back....wierd. then you have anime.....i just think anime has more suspense and there is more of a plot to it then in the other cartoons....(now, does everyone understand what i was trying to say before? if not...post or PM me)

that was just horrible of that women to sue whatever for whatever(i forgot)....

[OtakuSennen]

[color=midnightblue]To most Americans, anime is a rather new and controversial idea. Sure, there's the violence and the blood, but there's other factors in anime that make things "un-child-friendly" to some people.

[b]Nudity[/b]- Yeah, most more mature anime have at least scantily clad women, if not completely shown bodies. The nudity you see in Dexter's Lab and such are all on guys.. Maybe parents think that anime makes good little boys become sicko perverts?

[b]Smoking, Drinking, etc.[/b]- Such things are frequently seen in mature anime. Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star and the like tend to have a lot of alcohol use, right? Well the only time you'll ever see a show like Powerpuff Girls with a cigarette or alcohol is with some trashy-looking newspaper editor or something. But, of course, it's so subtle, it's not important to the plot. Is the drinking in Outlaw Star very important or take up much of the show's plot? I think not.

[b]Adult situations[/b]- Walking into bathrooms and accidentally find a 19-year-old girl taking a shower, prostitution (in some cases), occasional drug references.. Such things you [i]really[/i] won't find in American cartoons that are on before 10:00 PM.

[b]Foul Language[/b]- The worst I ever remember on an American cartoon like Powerpuff Girls is when Helga says "crap" once or twice. However a lot of uncut anime has far worse.

[b]"Scary" character designs[/b]- In "kiddy" cartoons you'll see most aliens are little green creatures with disproportionate heads and stereotypical laser guns. Not frequent in anime, my friends. You'll see things more creepy, with blood-covered fangs and talons that could rip humans in half. Of course, things like Star Wars: Clone Wars have more creepy things..

Of course, you will see these things in some American cartoons, but the somewhat more "serious" art styles may throw adults off and make the fanservice and language more mature.. From what I've seen of 6-year-olds who watch Power Rangers or Dragonball, they leave once the credits come on, jump off couches and try hurting other people with poor punches.

I think if a parent doesn't think their precious little angel has matured emotionally and mentally yet, they'll say anime is the work of Satan and the whole country of Japan should be burned. If a parent lets their child see an R-rated movie and restricts them from Dragonball Z, that's just messed up and illogical.

I am kind of contradicting myself, and I don't know who I am defending. I've just given you some reasons, but some of my comments about them are pretty strange too. Have mercy.

That is sort of a generalization though, saying all parents hate or dislike anime. It all depends on the individual, and how they feel about movies and television. Younger parents tend to be open-minded, but forty year old women with bright orange beehive wigs from the midwest tend to be biased and overprotective. [/color]

[Dagger]

People like to criticise what they don't understand. It's quite simple, and has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor.

Not all parents "bash" anime. It's annoying when they do, but you'll probably be out of the house in a few years, anyway. I'm sure that your grandparents' generation also had their share of complaints about popular culture. No matter the era, some things never change.

~Dagger~

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[COLOR=teal]My mom doesn't watch it at all, but seems to think it's like all other cartoons and it's all for children. She even thinks InuYasha is for children!
However she doesn't think my husband's RPGs are childish even tho he and his 20 and 30 something years old friends are playing pretend in someones garage and all I wanna do is watch a bit of InuYasha or Ayashi no Ceres. Go figure.
Okay, so back in my junior year she had a good reason not to like SailorMoon-it was pulling down my chemistry grade since i Was writing fanfics with a friend of mine instead of taking down formulas. Yes, instead of a low A high B I had a C in Chemistry, but I still passed.[/COLOR]

[immortALdeath]

My parents hate anime because they thinks it's childish, my mum can't understand why I like or how it's different. My theory is, adults are just hopeless.

[eleanor]

[size=1] Sexual themes in anime seem to occur very often, and in almost every anime there is always a scantily-clad full-figured woman prancing around at one point. If someone who had no idea what Evangelion was walked in while a naked Rei and Shinji were just hanging around....If I were a parent, I'd say something.

Then there's just fanservice and echii stuff that has no point. *cough*GOLDENBOY*cough*

Other parents might think the mature themes might be innapropriate for children, and anime always has some of that. I mean, it's great for someone to learn about these things one way or another, but a 8 year-old shouldn't be watching some anime talking about death and destruction and how the apocolypse will kill us all and we're all doomed. >_>

Then there's profanity, violence, and a whole lotta other stuff parents don't want kids watching.[/size]

[Epsilon]

It's probably they don't "Like" to critize, I think it may just be more of a bad habit. My mother, at some point in her life, had liked anime. But of now she practically likes to bash and insult animes of most kinds. The only anime she actually likes is Pok'emon. As for my father he dosen't have a problem with it. He just dosen't like the story plots, because he says they're too hard to fallow. Other then that my parents are fine with it.

As for other parents, as stated before. People simply don't like what they don't understand. Or along the lines of that some what. Or if they do happen to understand, I think parents might just disapprove of anime because of the plots. Maybe, violence, nudity, adult situations, swearing, and etc.

Those are the only things I know of that they might find that they dislike of anime...Some parents or Adults may just disapprove of the things in the animes, because many animes tend to have innapropriate things/subejects for the younger viewers.

[Cahoots34]

I'm sure none of us here poke fun or malice at the things our parents like. Oh, no.

It's inevitable that parents and children clash. If everything was harmony and sunshine in the childhood home forever and after, would there be _any_ desire to move away? No. The reason that some parents are so critical of anime may be not only due to the potential innapropriate content, or the simple difference of veiwpoints between generations, but the primal instinct of progentior and offspring to push each other way, thus eliminating the young's dependency on their parents.

That's my theory, anyway.

[The Mac Attack]

First of all I have to say that nowhere in that article, did the woman say she was suing Cartoon Network. She simply had a consumer complaint, which is quite common for many television networks.

Do adults criticize anime? No, or not at least in my case. It's more the ignorant elitists who believe anything animated is a cartoon; a broader faction than parents. Even on these boards I hear the word cartoon applied to anime, which may be appropriate in some cases, but certainly not in most.

The defining characteristic of a cartoon is that it caricatures some subject. I think of titles such as Cowboy Bebop, Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 and Gasaraki and not such a characteristic applies.

I don't know how many times I've heard of children complaining about their parents disdain for them to watch anime. This disdain however is justified. There are many organisations who send a clear message that many animes are not for kids.

When cartoon network in Australia expanded their Adult Swim line up to Saturday nights, the main message in their advertising that this was "japanimation not for kids". Even the classifications on DVDs and video cassettes indicate the true audience with ratings such as M15+ and MA.

I remember once when I sent my younger brother to pick up the latest Dragonball Z Movie from our local video store (the deal was that if I paid for it, he had to get it). A few minutes after he left I received a call from the clerk at the video store asking for permission for an underage individual to hire an M rated DVD. I explained the DVD was actually for me, and so he got away with it. This was an excellent response from the clerk in relation to appropriate audiences; he was intent and knew well that this kind of program wasn't suitable for children.

So what's the point I'm trying to make here. It's that I believe that all you children (let's face it - there are alot on these message boards) are displaying some kind of guilt by complaining about how their parents dissaprove of anime. These children know very well these programmes aren't suited to them, and so defend them with a haste when their tastes are questioned against what they should be watching.

I don't believe parents try to hide their children from the violence and so forth in the real world. They simply want to make a less violent future. The theory is that if you aren't exposed to violence during your childhood, the less violent adulthood you'll lead, and therefore a happier world for all.

Yes, I am an adult, and so my opinions may be a little more biased. I only started watching anime earlier this year, and even then I found it pretty full on; the kind of thing I'd never let my children watch (if I had any). If these children do wish to watch anime, wait to you childhood is over. I'm sure then you can appreciate it on another level - as the audience it was meant to be for.

[Arcadia]

[size=1][color=maroon]I think a lot of the adult complaints have to do with the fact that a lot of people associate cartoons, or anything that looks like cartoons, with children. So when a parent walks in the room and sees some warrior ninja cutting heads off, or one of those infamous bathroom scenes, in any anime series, they get a little shocked.

Now, I'm not saying that Japanese animation is just cartoons. [Man, that sounded like bad grammar.] In fact, a lot of it isn't geared towards children at all - it's just the conception that cartoons are only for kids that gets people all testy. Granted, it's not the only reason, but it's one that you might want to think about. ^_^[/color][/size]

[Moor_Child]

My Dad loves anime. He'll watch just about any anime with me. Funny thing is, I'm not allowed to watch cow and chicken and EE&E, stuff like that.

[XxmagentaxX]

Its just because it's not what they are used to...
It's new and they just arent used to it. Adults associate anything animated to being childrens programming. But times are changing and they need to get their heads out of the ground and face the facts

[pbfrontmanvdp]

Most anime is not meant for kids to begin with. I actually think "cartoons" and "anime" as two completely different entities. Anime is probably 75% more for adults (or at least PG14) while cartoons such as scooby doo (blah i dont know how to spell it i hate the show) is mostly for younger audiances. Im almost going to turn 20 and my parents have never complained about me watching anime and ive been watching it since i was about 8. Of course my parents always make fun of me for watching it since i was into DBZ for the longest time, but i finally got out of the mainstream type anime and finally my parents kinda started getting into it. Why parents would "bash" anime is beyond me and if they do then it is their own opinion and they are allowed to otherwise. I wouldnt really let it bother you since its whether you like it or not that matters.

[Chichiri's Girl]

Some american cartoons are just as bad as some anime. Lets look at the Simpsons for a moment. *Takes out a projector*
Alright now does any body remember the countless episodes were oyu see butts? I remember a certain episode where Homer and Marge were how shall I say it? "getting it on" in the windmill at a local minature putt-putt? And then they had to run naked as the day they were born to escape? Is this not as bad as some anime if not worse? There are countless episodes with bed scenes too. You don't actually see anything but isn't the seguestion enough?
And the endless cursing. You can't go a single episode without it. Espically the new ones. The cursing has gotten much worse over the years.(not that I mind but...) Then you have Bart a ten-year-old cursing more viloently then some adults. Anyone remember the eppisode where he and Milhouse got that messed-up slushie? Gee that was kind of a drug refernce. heh it was a classic though.....
There's loads of violence in it too. Espically the Hallaween episodes. Yet people don't mind it because they always have Marge warning you that you shouldn't let young childern watch it as it might give them nightmares. Yet Adult Swim has warnings too. Plus the simpsons come on at eight when the kids are awake. Adult Swim doesn't come on till ten and as far as I know only on weekday. Screwy ain't it?

[Othak]

I think my friend Chichiri's Girl has kinda made my point. but in a way she has disgusted my show the Simpsons, She has gotten the Simpsons and made it a mockery(dont ask me what i meant by that word) She has made it seem like its the most badest show on earth....im not saying that it can have its bad moments,lol. but every show does. one point or another there is a show where it has its boring shows, but the question is do adults like to critize anime? And im sure they do, but does that mean we cant watch anime or critize it either. i mean take Spongebob Squarepants i mean thats the Bomb tv show, but it has had its bad shows. So has anime and The Simpsons so i think ive made my point, please contact me if youd like to disguss a very unlike civil conversation,lol. means dont act like a suck up, lol. later

[Chichiri's Girl]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Othak [/i]
[B]I think my friend Chichiri's Girl has kinda made my point. but in a way she has disgusted my show the Simpsons, She has gotten the Simpsons and made it a mockery(dont ask me what i meant by that word) She has made it seem like its the most badest show on earth....im not saying that it can have its bad moments,lol. but every show does. one point or another there is a show where it has its boring shows, but the question is do adults like to critize anime? And im sure they do, but does that mean we cant watch anime or critize it either. i mean take Spongebob Squarepants i mean thats the Bomb tv show, but it has had its bad shows. So has anime and The Simpsons so i think ive made my point, please contact me if youd like to disguss a very unlike civil conversation,lol. means dont act like a suck up, lol. later [/B][/QUOTE]

Dude...I love the Simpsons....It's one of my most favorite shows ever. I was just saying how screwy it is that they let shows that little kids really shouldn't watch stay on TV without many complaints while networks that show anime get complaint letters and people threaten to sue them.

[Sweet Pie]

[COLOR=coral][B] First of all, CARTOONS/ANIME are always with the image of kids. Whenever you say anime/cartoon, kids will pop to your mind as ADULTS don't watch them. BUT ANIME also are for ADULTS and TEENS. There's a lot of catergory. When I watch anime, some adult will think that I watch a cartoon and is still like a small kid and immature. Come on! The adults got to open up their mind and think! Hello! Some anime are for adults because they contain....you know. That does not mean that ALL anime are the same. Got it *_*?[/COLOR][/B]

[Guest application]

That sort of anime is know as anim, it is a darker more mature sort of anime with a deeper meaning

[Kanariya]

I was sure I posted in this thread...oh well. (Well maybe posted something like it)
Well, my mother doesn't really care about if I watch anime though. She knows I like it, and she just deals with it. That's good for me, she doesn't bash me on it. On weekends when I am not at my dad's I watch anime OnDemand, and she doesn't care.
She just went flipping through the anime OnDemand and found Samurai X. She doesn't care if I watch it, yay!

Though my dad thinks anime is pretty stupid. He says that anime is just plain crap, and thinks I should really stop watching it. I don't listen and keep watching. But sometimes it comes into my reality life, and kind of makes me not focus on school. I'm trying harder, and I'm getting better. *another yay here*

P.S. And hey Chichiri, you have a great point.

[flint_djinni]

My parents say that Anime rots your brains. They had only seen my little brother's obession with Yu-gi-oh, Pokemon and Digimon. Mother said about 12 years ago, she was a Japanese movie (I identified it as Akira) in theaters and thought it was quite good, but says Anime is crap nowadays... Quick get the Hellsing DVD's!

[The Mac Attack]

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...she was a Japanese movie
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Wow, I wish my mother was a Japanese movie twelve years ago; that would've been cool! Don't worry, I'm not picking on you, I just thought it sounded funny (I started picturing it).

Anyway, I still believe that if you need some sort of approval by your parents, then maybe you shouldn't be watching anime.

The reason (or at least one I've been thinking about) parents are so protective over such a genre dates back to the 1950's. Comic books were very popular among the youth, but they were also very violent.

Research at the time found that those in juvenal detention centres, and mental hospitals for the young all had one thing in common. They all read comic books. What soon followed was mass censorship, and the only kind of comic that really managed to survive well were superhero comics.

My point is that alot of animes don't hold anything back. They can be explicitly violent, rude, crude and nude as they see fit.

Your parents are only looking out for you. I'm not suggesting that you're going to end up insane, but there are some mentally disturbed people out there e.g. like the ones who perform massacres after playing 3D Shooters.

[herbkir]

I'm an adult who has no problem with anime. In fact, I love it. Some series, however, aren't appropriate for young children. But there are others, such as Hamtaro, that are meant for young children and are popular with them.

There also are live-action shows on TV that I'd find just as inappropriate for young kids, and they are running at early hours where the kiddies are still going to be up and watching. The adult-level anime on TV is being run late at night, where it shouldn't be causing any problem. (^_*)

[Luminous]

:o [COLOR=silver]Whilst I understand that some shows are not appropriate for children I do believe that some adults take great joy in bashing anything younger generations hold near and dear. In our case it would be anime/and or manga. Some people, like my school teachers think that smart people like myself are not supposed to like anime. I have found through studies that other above average students actually do watch anime (with plot). I think that bashing is also about perception and since anime has that quote unquote cartoon look, adults percieve that they are older and should not wacth such "distasteful" shows. Some, however are in touch with what they like and not what they are supposed to like and are not hateful to the anime and its lovers.[/COLOR] [COLOR=teal]I could understand them not wanting children to watch anime with big old fancy HENTAI labeling all over the title and such but otherwise, I find that they can be incredibly prejuidiced against are beloved anime.[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Dude. That is soooooooooooooooo weird. I was just serious about something! Score for me!!! I have show this to my friends and prove I am not always incomptent...[/COLOR]

[Toraneko]

Personally from being told that Japan has more relaxed views and such compared to American/English societies.. I'm not surprised parents that live in those societies have a problem with anime. The majority of them aren't probably even aware of some of the usual activities that occur in Japan (sure, they know about the hot springs, but do they realise that it's completely normal for fathers to bath with their children for example? (In a non-sexual way of course)). Just a case of misunderstanding of cultures/societies me thinks..