Pinball_Wizard Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 love, what is it?where does it come from, why is it there, what decides it, why does it screw up? this is a place where you can discuss these questions and more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxmagentaxX Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 It's a chemical reaction in your brain... Simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Good idea. Let's gather a bunch of teenagers and have them discuss love. I'm sure we'll discover a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxmagentaxX Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Because teenagers are experts on the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagan Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i] [B]Good idea. Let's gather a bunch of teenagers and have them discuss love. I'm sure we'll discover a lot. [/B][/QUOTE] Though that sounded alittle sarcastic; I'll still take you up on that offer. Are teenagers really experts on love? I think most teenagers experience lust and not love up until they are married. To think about it I've never really loved none of my girlfriends; I just liked there outward apperance. Sure I told them that I loved them, but that was just something I said to either make her shut up and let me watch Inuyasha or get what I wanted from her. At the time I htought I meant it, but now I realize that I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I, Colossus Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hells Fire [/i] [B]Though that sounded alittle sarcastic; [/B][/QUOTE] It didn't [i]sound[/i] like anything, unless you have some strange hearing thing where really you hear what you read...or something. But yes, sarcasm was the point. [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hells Fire [/i] [B] Are teenagers really experts on love? I think most teenagers experience lust and not love up until they are married. [/B][/QUOTE] And even then, it can't be verified. Half of the people that get married get a divorce and a good percent of the people that stay married do it for religous beliefs. [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hells Fire [/i] [B] I just liked there outward apperance. Sure I told them that I loved them, but that was just something I said to either make her shut up and let me watch Inuyasha or get what I wanted from her. [/B][/QUOTE] That's very honerable of you. [b]Edit:[/b] I am one of those few teens that doesn't throw the term 'love' around. I refuse to believe I've expirienced it at such a tender age. It just is kinda stupid when one a guy has "Girl No. 1" on him and he's telling her how much he loves her, and the next day he has another girl. There is one emotion I've felt for a while, that I don't describe. And as I said I'm a bit stubborn using the term 'love'. But, it can't really be described by anything. Ashley is this girl I've known for a little over a year now, we've had our romantic expiriences but now we are seperated due to schools. I still feel a lot for her, and she's called every now and then. It's just, I don't think it's love, but it isn't lust or infatuation because it's not purely sexual. I just really don't know how to describe it. But I guess that goes with the territory of being a naive, somewhat stupid, 14 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 [size=1][color=006699]I'm very strict on how I use the term "loved". Most of the time, I use "love" when I'm talking 'bout my drama buds.. but as of now, I really, truly love Terry.. he's a fellow cast member.. It took time, but I know it's true. I don't think it'll fade easily. Love can be interpreted many different ways, and can be explained differently. I say, let love be and let it be unexplained.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawstar69 Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 I agree; just let it be. As long as we can differentiate between between what's love and what's lust, just let it go. I, for one, have not used that term yet because as a 17 year old male I look around and I know that it would be better for me to wait for someone really special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxmagentaxX Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 I dont think there is such a thing as true love anymore... Its all just gone. No one stays in love anymore. They either break up or divorce... its really sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball_Wizard Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 I agree with XxmagentaxX, It's all chemicals. But it was ineresting to see your reply.s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissWem Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I personally don't believe in love,however I do care...a lot about my friends,not so much my family. But I will accept the fact if two people think they are in love, it's nice to know there are people out there that believe that they are capable of loving another person. Yet it seems more to me like a mixture chemicals,emotional compatability and mostly how well the personalities of the people fit together which combines into a neat little package...love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark king Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 i have never loved anybody as much as my ex girlfriend. before our relation i have had a relation of 9 years after that one a year with my ex(at top) and my love for her is greater than i have ever experienced. like i would die for her you know. fall to catch. but love, it`s powerfull. it can make the toughest cry really. (not to say that i`m the toughest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=crimson]I think love cannot be described by the efforts or personal accounts of one- Love can bring about many positive things and, yet, can bring about many negetive ones as well. I know for one thing that you don't choose when you first expierence love- it can happen quite early, really. It can be debateable as if it was "love" or not, but it is an emotion that manifests when it wishes to, how it wishes to and it pays no heed to the barriers others would wish to put on it. I would prefer love to remain mysterious, it retains much more of it's magic if left to be magical.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=#707875]I agree with Ken. It would probably be possible to sit there and talk about chemicals in the brain and provide some kind of mathematical logic to love. But that would be pointless and I think it would ruin the beauty of the human experience. Love is definitely at its best when it's mysterious and new. It's something to be explored. It's an adventure. It's not a series of numbers.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani_Freak Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=darkblue]I beleive that love should be taken for what it is, a deep unexplainable sentiment. As DeathKnight, I think it can't be explained truly because of the different personal experiences each one has. It could be positive or negative but, that's why it can not be explained what it really is, because everyone has a very personal opinion to describe it. An besides, love can be expressed as many things. To me it's not a girlfriend/boyfriend, husband/wife only relationship. Love could be expressed to a really close friend, to familly and relatives, even to dear things of our childhood. It is unlikely that any of us could express what love really is. The most closely we will get to really explaining love is how closely we could've been on feeling it, and that it's just based on personal beleifs and experiences.[/color] [color=red]Ani_Freak[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=hotpink][size=1]Kenneth and James are both thinking on my level about this subject. Love, I think, is different for everyone and it is only how you percieve and only what you personally make of it. If you believe there is no such things as love, then it is going to be hard for love to find you. I believe that there is lots of love to go around, just like my silly Care Bear I just signed up as in the Adventure Arena. ^_^; I love lots of people, and of course, there are different types of love: love of family, love of friends, romantic love, etc. I feel as though I am very well-rounded in the love department.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [size=1]True that, Asuka. ^_^ I have to agree, as well. It's definitely something different for everyone and it comes at different times for everyone. You might think you haven't experienced it yet, but I would beg to differ - love is everywhere, it's just up to you to find it. As of now, while I might not have any sort of romantic love in my life, I've got my family, some wonderful friends, I've got a PS2 and an N64 which I absolutely adore, and so on. Love can cover a [i]lot[/i] of things. To say that it doesn't exist.. well, that just sounds like a defense mechanism to me.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snakemarcato13 Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 i'll tell you what love is. love is HELL! love ruined my life! love made me a merc, if you can understand that. love made pain, which in turn made me a merc. THAT'S what love is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawstar69 Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Love can be a sticky issue for some, I think, especially if they got burned before. I won't sit here and talk about it though; I'll hopefully be able to experience it soon enough for myself. From what I hear from the more positive members here though, it will be well, worth it. Thanks guys, for letting me see past the naysayers; that it is something worthwhile. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=indigo]Although I love my family and several of my friends I think that you are more than likely referring to romantic love or love in its apparent absolute form. I have always been of the mindset that if you think you are in love or you can explain how love feels, then you aren?t or haven?t been in love in the romantic sense. Then again, I am pretty old fashioned when it comes to these things. Personally, I know that I have never been in love, at least ?in love? in the manner that I picture it. I have, however, thought I was in love many times, but I realized later on that it was mainly just a combination of lust and familiarity. I don?t really think that love is something bound by age but I do think that emotions tend to require maturity, that is why I am skeptical when teenagers say that they are in love. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaOfChaos Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [color=deeppink] What a question. As Ken and James said, it's something different for each person, and everyone bases their idea of love on their own experience and knowledge. It cannot be broadly defined, nor should it be. Of course, over the passage of time, there have been general themes of love that people have talked and written about, like infatuation, or just a platonic love, or perhaps that deeper meaning, which is different for so many people. Love is discussed and pondered over in the desire to share what it means to people. And in this manner, we often find that certain things are common in almost everyone's definition of love. But, in the end, it cannot really be said what love is. -Karma [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I'm not going to get into most of this, but in our every day lives there are a lot of people we're [i]supposed[/i] to love, pretty much no matter what. Family basically. That doesn't mean you will, or even should, but I think people get my point. In a relationship situation with a partner, I think it's a really nice thing to know that the person loves you simply because they want to, and vice-versa. In most normal cases, there'd be no other reason to stick around. I could easily break contact with a girlfriend, but I cannot do that with my family -- they're pretty unavoidable lol. To me that's a very big dividing line. Hopefully that made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 [size=1] Only human beings could create something as [i]insipid[/i] as love. Agent Smith and I are nihilists. Tehee. I'm not going to try and define love. What's the point? The answer? There is no point.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Newt Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 [size=1][color=darkblue]What annoys me is that most people believe that teenagers are incapable of romantic love. They say that it is just infatuation, or lust, or familiarity. Most cases they are proably correct but it isn't entirely true. I would like to give the example of the Harlequin and Ravenstorture. They'll probably shoot me (or knowing Flynn do something extremely painful) for using them, but they aren't exactly keeping it a secret, everyone on otaku and at school knows about it. I have never seen two people so absolutely taken with one another. Not even in the adult world. They match each other in every single way and it makes me extremely jealous that two people can find such blind love so early in their life. I seriously doubt that many people could provide a credible argument that they do not love one another. If that is not love then love does not exist. ~TUN[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 [font=gothic][color=indigo]Yeah Dave, never mind the fact that we fight all the time, go after other people, and generally try to make each other's lives miserable at times... But hey, we're still together...After a bit. Anyway. Given that school's over, and I'll likely forget about this, you're probably safe. Anyway, onto the rather ponderous point, that general pontification that makes me me. Given my history, love is an interesting experience, albeit a rather painful one most of the time. Unlike most of our happy little industrious drones, I have the distinct honour of being, 99% of the time, completely and utterly emotionly repressed. The reasons aren't important, so this diatribe won't feature them. Alright, armed with this knowledge, we sortie further. Given this longstanding problem with emotions, it should be something of a given that I don't deal with them very well, and any kind of pain caused by emotion tends to do quite a lot of damage. Both true. Anyway, at the expressly exciting risk of making this sound like a cliche Harlequin novel (I'm serious, there is a romance series under the name Harlequin. Degrading to a fault.), the first emotion I really expressed, rather than a pale physical reflection of a thought, was indeed love, and it was indeed all Raven's fault. Now, that is all well and good, and it has helped me become a slightly better excuse for a human being (I'm still a remarkably poor one, have no doubt, though I'm sure my willing minions will disagr....wait. Worry not.), on the other hand it did spawn a true viper's nest. Basically I started liking someone else a bit more than I should, which has hurt the three of us in various ways. Anyway, that rather superfluous amount of affection for this other, coupled with a few insecurities I possess, ended up with my being paranoid about how Raven and other actually felt about me, which was in no way abetted by various behaviours exhibited by the two. After several months, more than a few tears and rather long nights listening to depressing music and staring at a wall (I think I'm the only person I know who actually does that when depressed. Normally because there is a wall everywhere I look....), it's apparently alright now. But the point of this quasi-autobiography is that during that period, I truly gave up caring about either person for some short periods of time, though may have gone through the motions, and those periods were the only time when it didn't hurt. So to me, love is basically a way of realising I'm not a self sufficient bastard (Damn!), and a way of telling me to hurry up and work myself out before I do something stupid. Other than that, I agree with Mitch. Nihilism works, nihilism is good....[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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