Spike Spiegel Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 [FONT=courier new]Without a doubt, it's art. Some peoples idea of art is homosexual erotica, some peoples idea of art is splashing ketchup on canvas, but whichever way you slice the cake it all comes out the same. If you are mature enough to look past the whole gay-motif, it's a decent photograph, but the blue filter is a tad too common for my tastes. all in all it's a nice piece of art.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aya Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 I think they're cute together...O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted August 18, 2001 Author Share Posted August 18, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B] [SIZE=1]I don't mind it at all, though I wish people would just say it from the start. If it's who they are it's nothing to be ashamed of.. when I read that you are bisexual I was just like 'Really??!?!?'. I never would have thought that you were bisexual.. I find more and more people every day that I know (personally or otherwise) that have a different sexual preference. At first it kinda shocks me cuase I never would have expected it from them, but then it just goes on as it always has...[/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah, well even my closest friends were shocked... people who have known me for like... a long time... never would have guessed.... i think i shocked alot of people..... but it's something I felt I had to do. and yes Poo, they do look cute togeher :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticGohan Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]I don't let them get to me that much... just somethings I can find very offencive. I'll let them know if it's offencive though so... Anyway, thank for your understanding Mystic, Cera, and the rest of you. if only all people were like you.... :) [/B][/QUOTE] No problem man.... no problem.... so what happened to haruka? She seemed pretty nice man.. whoops.. no need to answer that question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted August 18, 2001 Author Share Posted August 18, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MysticGohan [/i] [B] No problem man.... no problem.... so what happened to haruka? She seemed pretty nice man.. whoops.. no need to answer that question.. [/B][/QUOTE] Eh, well we broke up.... it was going downhill and decided to end it before it got worse.... we are still good friends though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 [color=indigo]What I find most interesting about sexuality is that a lot of people talk about sexual "preference" rather than sexual "orientation". I don't think that anyone would [i]choose[/i] to be in a group of people who are often looked down upon by society and religion. It's like saying that you [i]chose[/i] to be straight... You never make that conscious decision, but as you go through puberty, girls become slightly less obnoxious to you :) I think that basically, nature makes you what you are. You can't change it. And talking about it as a defect or something...you can't take anything scientific out of it. To scientifically define sexuality is like defining love with mathematics...it will never work, because love is something that science just can't define. So I think that's the core problem, that people think you choose your sexuality. *shrug* Anyway, congrats to Transtic for being so open about it, it's good to see everyone being so supportive here.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSj3 Gotenks Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 That Is So Totally Art....I Think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]Yeah, well even my closest friends were shocked... people who have known me for like... a long time... never would have guessed.... i think i shocked alot of people..... but it's something I felt I had to do. and yes Poo, they do look cute togeher :) [/B][/QUOTE] Davey Havoc (lead vocals of [i]AFI[/i]) is bisexual. I learned that a few months ago. I just said 'wow really?' and they're still my fav band.. my friends two other friends are homosexual, she thinks I have a problem with them for some reason but I don't.. but she's just odd that way :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittie Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 it is art no matter what others say. there's 7 types of art and photography is one of those forms. it's just too 'hard-core' for some of these poor American minds... and i Love Gackt!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zanza Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B]I also think that [i]most[/i] people here have been pretty mature about this. I mean, to view that picture as sexual, I think it means that you're missing the point.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] No, it means we don't give a flying **** about art. Not all of us take photography or art classes. I am a music person myself. When someone who isn't much of a music fan thinks Ayumi Hamasaki's album "Duty" is rock music, I don't cast them down because I know that it's only somewhat hard pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mystical Pan~ Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 It depends on the person's enviroment. Some people might think of it sexual because they live around people who make fun of each other of being homosexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted August 19, 2001 Author Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zanza [/i] [B] No, it means we don't give a flying **** about art. Not all of us take photography or art classes. [/B][/QUOTE] Whoa whoa whoa.... since when can ****s fly??? Anyway, yes i know what you mean, as I've already had this conversation with you.... But art is life.... art is all around.... but you have good points and others have good points.... i guess it depends on your knowledge of picture art (ie: painting, photos, drawings) and since so much "sexuality" is expressed in pictures, it can be something considered sexual.... Put it this way, if you were to compare that pic of Gackt and Yu-chan to something from Playboy or Playgirl, would you still think it was sexual content? Pics in porn magazines focus on the sexual parts in a human being and basically the girl/guy showing them off.... Those pics aren't focused on the love between some girl and a guy or whatever, it's focused mainly on turning the viewer on by showing a sexual act and the pic of gackt and Yu doesn't show anything really sexual. Just two guys, naked from the waist up showing some sort of affection for one another and last I checked, affection is love, and love is NOT always sexual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=courier new]I said Sexual only because i haven't the faintest about japanese music,so i don't know the style.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mystical Pan~ Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] affection is love, and love is NOT always sexual.... [/B][/QUOTE] Now that strikes the truth. I agree with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]I'm surprised no one's posted much on the fact I'm Bi..... shall be a first [/B][/QUOTE] I was open to the fact that you might be, but I don't care about sexual preferences. I don't think they'll post anything about your sexuality because: a. you're a mod b. you're good at verbal lashings The guy on the right reminds me of your pic. Anyway, yeah, I think it's art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zanza [/i] [B] No, it means we don't give a flying **** about art. Not all of us take photography or art classes. I am a music person myself. When someone who isn't much of a music fan thinks Ayumi Hamasaki's album "Duty" is rock music, I don't cast them down because I know that it's only somewhat hard pop. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=blue]You don't have to have taken art classes, or even be interested in art to understand that the picture isn't designed with the intent of being sexual. All you need is [i]at least[/i] half a brain to think about the picture and consider it's message. By the way, watch your language next time...that kind of language is inappropriate here.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundamcat17 Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B] [color=blue]You don't have to have taken art classes, or even be interested in art to understand that the picture isn't designed with the intent of being sexual. All you need is [i]at least[/i] half a brain to think about the picture and consider it's message. By the way, watch your language next time...that kind of language is inappropriate here.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] reads james post and makes the comment out loud... Well i hope its the left side of your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundamcat17 Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 James check pm's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Shadow Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [b]Well, i've been reading alot of the posts. And i've been thinking alot about this. I voted that it is sexual, because i'm certainly not used to art like that. It took me awhile to realize why i voted that, and if i should've or not. And i've finally figured out, that it can be both. It's how you look at it. If you mean it to be sexual, then it will be. If you look at it fer only art purposes, then it is art to you. I never really cared about art until I started drawing. Now i've found i can see the art in lots of stuff. I find music is very much like art. And that it is art. In the same way i can see that photography is art. But normally i would think of photography of a sunset or flowers or something. And normally i would think of art as a sunset or flowers or something. But I've seen many renassaince pictures and paintings. Some of them had nudity in them. Is it still art? I think it can be, if yer intrested in the meaning. But if you look at it like you would, say, a playboy magazine, then thats wrong, and it isn't art to you. I voted that it is sexual because i'm not used to seeing nudity in photographic art. I found it nasty... But i was hesitant on voting because you couldn't see any "bad parts". So i almost said it was art. But i see now that it can be either, its how you look at it....[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 OK I'm going to address three issues: the pic- the point that if it were intended for sexual puposes it would have shown more is a good one, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't have any sexuality. What is the purpose of art anyway? You are impressioned to possibly think something that the artist wanted to convey. There are two men nude who are holding eachother. One can't deny that the option is there for someone to think that the men are holding eachother in more than a 'friendly' means. Yes I think that the body is a very beautiful creation, but in my opinion that doesn't necessarily mean that it's right to flaunt it, like you wouldn't cast pearls among swine. In all, the picture certainly has artistic merit, but I don't think the picture wasn't intended for the viewer to think it was sexual, at least to some, and it sort of does to me. Transtic- I just barely noticed that in your sig. I guess I'll be honest and say that I don't agree with the whole bisexual and homosexual notion. I personally think that it isn't right, but please understand that though I may disagree with someone's choice, that doesn't mean that I am 'condemning' them or think that they are a 'bad' person. I still like you Transtic, in fact my opinion of you hasn't changed at all. And I admire your courage to be open with people. :) sexuality in general- I [i]think[/i] it was James who said it, but it was brought up somewhere that one doesn't choose their sexuality and that they're born with it. I disagree, we all have the capactiy to consciously make decisions about everyhting we do. Some people might think that they were born homosexual or something, but it's because of environmental stimulis; there are a number of factors that influence a child's mentality when they are young, and those impressions stay with them for life, and they grow up thinking there's nothing they can do about it. But I think that homosexuality simply isn't meant to be, and that counseling could help one who was confused with their sexuality. This is all my opinion, and I don't care if any of you have a problem with it. (and sorry it's so long :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoTranzrig Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 Any guesses to what the picture is trying to tell us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 the pic itself isnt to sexual it will be disturbing for like 8 year olds but it aint to disturbing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundamcat17 Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by iggy [/i] [B]the pic itself isnt to sexual it will be disturbing for like 8 year olds but it aint to disturbing for me [/B][/QUOTE] I agree to the statement about 8 yr olds and have said before that people that young just do not belong on the internet these days...i mean go to google or yahoo and hit anime and search... supprised at the results im not there are more perverts and people that care only about income to realise what they are doing to 8 yr old kids looking for sailormoon pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 Which can easily lead into another topic. Is Hentai art or Sexual content? There just isn't a clear boundary for lot's of this stuff. Shades of grey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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