Who Hates School!!!??

[Fall]

Yeah, mate. There's people who hate school, just like you. I hare school, I reckon it'd be hard to find someone who hates it as much as me. Though I know I have to go to that place, and I know I have to actually listen to the teachers once in a while, and atleast get half an education. Even then I'd be better off than some of the people I see walking around here today, no money, no job, no house.

Not all people who hate school, drop out, and can't read and write turn out bad. Though if you ask me, most of them do. I'd rather get an education, get a job.

...but there's always going to be that hate for school, that just sits inside me. I've always hated school. But atleast I go to school, I'm getting an education, I wouldn't know half as much of the crap I know now, without going to school.

Always remember the good ol' saying... "School's the best years of your life!". Haha... yeah, I hate that saying too.

[Dagger]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Xyandar [/i]
[B]On the OTHER hand I don't think we need ENGLISH after grade 8 because i am always at home typing on the computer all day and reading messages. i teach myself lol. who needs that crap that they teach you??:P [/B][/QUOTE]

No, no, no.

You clearly have a lot to learn about English, dear. I could point out all of the grammatical errors contained within those three short sentences, but that would be a little bit too embarrassing. If you're going to argue that you've mastered the language after several years of middle school instruction, then I advise you to proof-read your posts more carefully.

One more thing: [i]it's not crap.[/i] My heart nearly stopped when I read those words. English is my favorite class--not only because I have a wonderful teacher, but also because it does [i]so[/i] much to enrich and expand one's mind. Would you read great literature if doing so was not required? Would you seek out Shakespeare, Tolstoy, and Dickens of your own free will?

I'd better stop writing now, because I'm absolutely fuming. However, I'll answer your (presumably rhetorical) question first. [i]I[/i] need that "crap." And apparently you do, too.

~Dagger~

[DeathBug]

[color=1][font=century][size=1]I'm remined of a song lyric.

[QUOTE][b]The Offspring[/b]: [u]Cool To Hate[/u]
[i]I hate teachers
I hate school
I hate the cheerleaders
And anyone who's cool
I hate the office
I hate the Quad
Don't wanna' learn nothing
I want to be a slob[/i][/QUOTE]

I'm not going to preach to you how great school is; some like it, some don't. I hated school with a passion from seventh grade to my sophmore year of high school. However, I knew that it was good for me, so I put up with it. (In all fairness, most of the circumstances that made me hate school had little to do with my lessons.)

The bottom line, though, is that you're being offered the chance to better yourself mentally, and improve your odds of having a bright future. If you want to throw it away, go ahead. However, I think that in the long run, you'll realize the value of education.[/color][/font][/size]

[OtakuSennen]

[quote]I imagine quite a few people laughed when they saw the thread title.[/quote]

[color=midnightblue]I know I did. For about fifteen minutes.

But the mere thought of somebody creating a thread such as this is a perfect display of a decline of desire for intelligence in our society.

I've heard a lot of senior citizens around me rant on and on about the lack of work ethic among today's youth- How most of the young ones of today would sit around and watch television and vegetate instead of doing anything relevant, important, or for the sake of a bright future.

People only need English classes up until middle school, then they don't need it ever again? My god, if that's the case, my school examplifies what a bleak and dismal future our society will have. Every day I find two or three notes in the halls and read them, just to see what stupid things people have to say, and see how they write it.

What I've found many times, is a letter that may go like this.

"Hi, itz Michelle waz^
U gona b at the mal this friday???
ya cuz i herd jasonz gona b dere and hes soe kyute!!"

Keep in mind, that was [i]not[/i] an over-exaggeration. In fact, that is a direct quote from a hand-written letter I once found by my fourth period classroom. It's not the only one I've found like this, either. There were so many that were poorly written, with awful grammar and sentence structure that would make Shakespeare roll in his grave.

We only need basic addition and subtraction? Sure, if you want to work the cash register at Kwik-E-Mart and get paid a few hundred dollars a month. For most high-paying, stable jobs you're most likely going to need a college degree of some sort to apply. And to get into college you need a decent Grade Point Average. Along with English, Science and History, Math is a major factor on one's GPA. To be successful, you'll have to understand high school math to some extent, even if you won't need to use it in your life past college.

And won't you feel foolish when your children twenty years from now will ask you for help with studying for the next big History or Science test? You, yourself, will not know half of the stuff you're talking about when you're quizzing your poor daughter about Flagellum, Bacteriophages and Napoleon. You'll think she's taking sex ed if she's learning about these "flagellums", and you'll hear the word Napoleon and think about that funny episode of Just Shoot Me you saw last week on TV Land where that one guy made a crack about short French conquerors..

Won't that be a sad living? Won't you look back, and ask yourself why you just didn't sit down for an hour every night and read up a bit on the Revolutionary War? Then you'll remember that you looked at the clock, remembered Jackass was on, and dropped your History book on the floor without ever bothering to look at it again.[/color]

[quote][i]Semjaza Azazel originally wrote:[/i]
[b]As if none of you thought this way at that kid's age.[/b][/quote]

[color=midnightblue]..Wow, I must really be an outcast.[/color]

[Takun]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dagger IX1 [/i]
[B]
I also love learning. While not all of my teachers are terribly talented or experienced, I don't [i]mind[/i] going to school. There are times when I truly enjoy it.

Do you think that every adult likes going to his or her job? Savor your high school and college years; life won't always be this simple.

~Dagger~ [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree with you on this, I also love going to school, I always crave it during break or summer, it's just way too boring staying at home and not seeing your friends each day.
if you didn't learn how to read or write you probably wouldn't be here talking to all of us now either.
I also want to stay as long as I want in my school, Im really happy with it, because it's 7-12th grade, so i'll be there for 4 more years since i'm currently in eighth grade. I do get frustrated with it, but I know it help prepare you for almost anything that comes up in your future life.
If you look on the bright side of things, you usually feel alot better then you would be if you didn't.
Also, school brings me alot of memories that i cherish, but if I had no school, I wouldn't have met all those good people that I know today. :)

[Semjaza]

There have been kids who have hated school since it was first started who knows how many centuries ago. I don't see how this reflects poorly on the youth of today as a whole, really.
Old people like to complain about [i]everything[/i]. I wouldn't cite them to help prove this sort of argument heh. There's always a few stragglers who never really mesh with the school system or have the mindset for that sort of thing. At the same time, the school system in the US seems to be getting worse and worse, so I'm sure that adds to it.

There were times where I outright hated school. It wasn't because I didn't want to learn or that I thought these things wouldn't be useful. It was because I was having a poor experience thanks to fellow classmates, poor books or a teacher who was just going through the motions.

There have been classes I've absolutely loved. I also enjoy school currently. There are times when I'm unhappy there, but overall I'm enjoying myself and feel that I'm doing something worthwhile despite the money involved.

[James]

[color=#707875]I would have to say that with my experience at school currently...it's very much a fluid issue.

For example, I really hate the fact that I have to allow two hours to get to and from school each day. That's basically four hours of travelling each day. It's a pain in the butt, because it's such a big waste of time. Usually I use my travel time to read over notes or to do some work in my journals...but still, it becomes old very quickly.

And of course, there are things about school that I don't like. I dislike some projects. And I dislike the approach of some tutors.

However, I don't dislike the tutors themselves or anything. Actually, it's just a question of me not necessarily enjoying the way they teach...or the way they teach isn't really helpful to me specifically, if that makes sense.

I mean, I don't like it when a tutor sits there and monitors everything I'm doing and holds my hand the whole way. I find that annoying. It slows me down.

I prefer tutors who take more of a hands off approach -- if I want help, I'll ask. But I don't want to be spoon fed.

Of course, a lot of students are quite happy to be spoon fed. So I understand that everyone has a different feeling about that.

Generally though, on balance, school is a positive thing. I'll have a degree at the end and I'll have gained a lot of knowledge and experience. And of course, I'll have made a lot of friends. So it's a pretty good experience overall.

But as with all things, there are definitely times that I dislike. It's the same with anything though. But it doesn't mean that I stop appreciating the benefits gained from education. Education is really, really important.[/color]

[future girl]

My problem with school is that I feel like I've finished learning. It's not that I don't want to learn, that's not it at all, it's that where I'm at, it just isn't happening. I'm looking foward to higher education because I'm hoping I'll have teachers with a passion for what they're teaching. Right now every teacher just doesn't care, it truly feels like they're there because they have to be. Book work just doesn't do it for me, I'm a fan of discussion, lectures. I don't want to hear what the book says, I want to hear what the professor thinks. I want to know oppinions, comments, questions, thoughts. That's the only reason why I hate school right now, because sitting there feels like a waste of time. I'm eager to learn, but no one's teaching.

[naomisan24]

Allow me to state it simply: If you cannot read and write, you cannot post. Note that my grammar is perfect, THANKS TO SCHOOL.

[Brasil]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
For example, I really hate the fact that I have to allow two hours to get to and from school each day. That's basically four hours of travelling each day. It's a pain in the butt, because it's such a big waste of time. Usually I use my travel time to read over notes or to do some work in my journals...but still, it becomes old very quickly.[/quote]

It sounds like you take the train or speedline, but parking is a hassle...oh man it's a hassle, haha. At Rutgers, there is one parking lot for Rutgers students...and that same lot is also used by Rowan and Camden County College students...so...it's quite the jungle.

[quote]And of course, there are things about school that I don't like. I dislike some projects. And I dislike the approach of some tutors.

However, I don't dislike the tutors themselves or anything. Actually, it's just a question of me not necessarily enjoying the way they teach...or the way they teach isn't really helpful to me specifically, if that makes sense.[/quote]

This is an important point. In my Sociology Of Education course, the instructor knew nothing about how to teach. She had very little charisma and stage presence and often read from Powerpoint presentations.

But talking with her outside of class, she's a really nice person.

So, that's the odd balance, I think, in most educational institutions.

Some instructors can be horrible with classroom management, but you can't hate them entirely, because they're quite pleasant.

But then again, that brings up a questionable area. They're putting on a false mannerism in the classroom, which many students will see right through. Understandably, the level of trust in the classroom will deteriorate. Interesting, huh?

[quote]I mean, I don't like it when a tutor sits there and monitors everything I'm doing and holds my hand the whole way. I find that annoying. It slows me down.

I prefer tutors who take more of a hands off approach -- if I want help, I'll ask. But I don't want to be spoon fed.

Of course, a lot of students are quite happy to be spoon fed. So I understand that everyone has a different feeling about that.[/quote]

I'm somewhat in the middle, I think. On one hand, some instructors who are really relaxed and easy-going are great; I love those teachers. But then again, one of my current instructors, Dr. Lutz, is very...demanding. He goes so fast in class and covers so much and really, the level of attention he requires is insane. And by "he requires," I don't mean he tells us to pay attention. "He requires" means that he goes so quickly if you drift off for a second, you're lost for the next five minutes.

But I love it just the same. There are instructors who are brilliant at what they do, whether relaxed or hyperkinetic, for lack of a better term.

[quote]Generally though, on balance, school is a positive thing. I'll have a degree at the end and [b]I'll have gained a lot of knowledge and experience.[/b] And of course, I'll have made a lot of friends. So it's a pretty good experience overall.

But as with all things, there are definitely times that I dislike. It's the same with anything though. But it doesn't mean that I stop appreciating the benefits gained from education. Education is really, really important.[/QUOTE]

The bolded text is the key phrase here. From knowledge and experience comes skill. ^_^

[The_Ghost]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]There were times where I outright hated school. It wasn't because I didn't want to learn or that I thought these things wouldn't be useful. It was because I was having a poor experience thanks to fellow classmates, poor books or a teacher who was just going through the motions.[/B][/QUOTE]

YES! Thank you. I was going to say this. Except I would sound a lot crabbier. I love to learn. I really do. But school sucks. People who don't want to learn and say you only need a 7th-8th grade education deserve to work in fast-food restaurants for the rest of their lives.
But actually, they?re not the ones I have a problem with. It's the dumb jocks that get away with murder. (So cliche, I know, but it's still true) The are all retards, but they still pass because they copy the answers off the nerds. :rolleyes: I guess that's a mainstay of any high school though.

I hate my teachers as well. I do admit I have a little bit of an attitude some times, but I really try to learn. Most of the time I get in trouble because I disagree with a teacher. I try to have a calm discussion (really, I actually contain myself) and they refuse to acknowledge my point as valid. Most of the time they won't tell me why I'm wrong! How immature...

They also get pissed because I learn kind of different-Sometimes I have to have something restated so I can understand it. (Especially in math-I just have trouble with that) What makes them angry is that I get straight A's. They assume I know everything already, which I don't. If I ask for help on a math paper, the teacher rolls her eyes, and is very vague with her help. Then she usually gets either gets angry, or laughs at me. I hate being treated like I'm stupid, and that's what she does! It's really degrading.

[Patronus]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dan Rugh [/i]
[B]Shouldn't it be "[i]speak[/i] well enough"...?[/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1]No, Transtic did it correctly.

Anyways, those of you who think you can get by without school, get over it. I mean, you couldn't do anything [i]amountful[/i] in your life without education. Sure, it's a hassle, but is anything in life easy? Let's see.. uh.. um.. [b]no[/b].[/size]

[sesshoumaru0013]

I hate school. It's that simple. There are only two things I like about school and they are that the state gives free laptops with internet and hanging out with my friends. My computer at home isn't working right (stupid windows 98!) so I can only get online at school.

[Guest animefan_441]

I HATE SCHOOL. I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT. School is the pits. to many rules to much home work too many teachers...

[Sir Kyle]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by animefan_441 [/i]
[B]I HATE SCHOOL. I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT. School is the pits. to many rules to much home work too many teachers... [/B][/QUOTE]


After this incredibly long discussion with all sorts of great points made coupled with wonderful debates over what may be right, that's all you can say? Did you even read any of the other messages in this thread? This sort of message is the reason people are posting huge page filling topics, because people come in talking about how much they hate school without giving any real legitimate reasons for such.

Sure, school can be a drag sometimes. Find me someone who's actually enjoyed school every single second of the day and enjoyed all the out of school work as well and I'll give you $1000 because it's impossible. There is no one like that around.

But how can you complain about the rules, the homework, or the teachers? I'm pretty sure that the rules are there for a reason (most of them are, at least) and are there for your benefit though you may not think so. Homework is essential. I mean, how are you gonna learn anything if you never apply it? You won't, bottom line. And teachers? They definitely aren't all bad people by any stretch of the mind. You can't tell me that every single teacher you've ever met in your entire life up to this point has been a horrible person who's hated you and can't teach to save his/her life. That's just stupid. Yes, some are bad and this can't be avoided, but I've also met some very good ones that have actually changed my life for the better.

Overall, I believe that everyone, no matter how much they think they hate or really hate school should still take advantage of a great thing. I mean if it's public school, it's a free frickin' education! FREE! All you have to pay for is your lunch and for some fees here and there while you boost such things as peer relationships and your ability to both follow rules (you're gonna need that later in life, trust me) and your ability to THINK. They are educating you afterall, teaching you essentials that you'll need later in life as well as teaching you how to be a critical thinker. And for FREE! You can't find a better deal than that anywhere else.

Just be thankful that you are getting such an education. Some countries don't allow this type of learning for some, if not all of their citizenry. You are fortunate that you get the oppurtunity to succeed in life for a very moderate price so I'd just say enjoy it while you can. You never know who you'll meet or know in high school (usually some of the best friends you'll meet) as well as learning essentials that you can use later and becoming an overall better person.

And of course for Free. Why waste an oppurtunity like that?

[the_fizz]

[color=royalblue]As far as school goes I don?t really hate it or love it. I mean that, I know that I love going to school, getting out of the house, and making myself a better person. I also hate it because it can be really hard for me and the only thing that come easily are math and computers. But, really I guess school is what you make of it and how you view your education should be as one of a challenge to make yourself a better person and not a burden to endure for the next few years of your life. [/color]

[Swordsaint]

Ya know, I agree with you on the "School sucks!" part.
But sitting on your butt at home, is wasting your life as well. However much it sucks, the way society has progressed, school is important. I wish it weren't so, but it is. So you know what you gotta do when things are how they are, and you really can't change a damn thing about it...

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming swimming swimming...

anyhow, you stop whining and deal with it, 12 years out of about 80 or so isn't that bad. It sucks but it ain't bad compared to starving on the street with bills up the ying yang, and 4 other mouths to feed other than your own.

[RainbowChick]

School... let me just say i list of things that i don't like about (the way teachers teach, the projects, the occasional ***hole, ect.) but I couldn't live without it. It's just an essential part of life if to want to be someone. I mean I'm sure everyone has a career they want and it's not possible without school. School has its cons, but doesn't everything? And that's why I do really like it.

Oh, and anyone who really depises it, you'll get over it. And if it isn't just a phase, then you can bet these 12 yrs will be some of the most hellish years in your.

[Japan]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Alastor [/i]
[B]My point is why spend 12 years for nothin. I mean you only need basic addition and subtraction, adding and multiplication skill to be able to count your money. And thats the only thing i find useful to count. [/B][/QUOTE]

What about Physics? Geometry? Algebra? I do hate math, but I know that I will learn something from it. Algebra helps you find the missing numbber. Geometry helps you to theorize and unstand how things are the way they are. Like, why a parallelogram is a parallelogram. Physics are important because they help you understand speed and gravity. If you want to be an professional athlete or an astronaut, you need Pyshics and other types to help you out. Though I hate math, I realize that math is important to everyday life. Something you don't really understand yet. You need a whole lot more than just the basics of math to live like and make a living.

[QUOTE][b]
Who needs science anyway?[/b][/quote]

Science is also very important. If you didn't have science, then you couldn't understand how the earth and the rest of the universe works. You wouldn't understand what the heck the weatherman is talking about when he gives you the forcast on tv. If you were poisoned by an acid, you wouldn't know what kinds of things around the house are bases. Heck, you wouldn't even know that base neutralizes an acid.

[quote][b]English after the 7th-8th grade you basically know how to talk good enough so why the extra 4-5 years.[/b] [/quote]

As Transtic already pointed out, if you think that English after middle school is enough, just look at your post quality. "To talk good enough," isn't proper English. I think that you do need to take the English classes in high school. If you didn't have good English skills, then, you can't post here.

[quote][b]And I know I not the only person who is tired of getting up at 6 A.M to go to a stupid high school that I don't even care about.[/b][/quote]

Well, if you don't like getting up at six AM, you better get used to it by the time you graduate. After you graduate, you have to get a job. A lot of jobs, you have to wake up early to get there. In high school, they may let in you in with the a few late passes, but in the real world at a job, if you show up late a couple times, you are fired. That's it. You are jobless. Let me tell you something. If you don't like to get up early, then you are in big trouble. My mom, with her job, she has to go in at five in the morning. Yes, five!

In closing, school is not a waste of twelve years of your life. It is very important. It gears you up for the real world. Employers out there want smart educated people to work for them. They don't want people that don't know much skills and also people who are not in good spirits. If you ever plan to have a social job, like a store manager, you need to be friendly with the customers, yet educated enough for the other part of your job description. Maybe someday, you will be mature enough that school and it's subjects, like science, math, and English, are really important. Not only do you need to be well educated for the job of your choice, but your job is the key to your survival. Job equals money, money equals food, food equals full tummy. It is very simple. You got to try and realize that school is important and it is also fun. Though that depends on how you interpet school and the classes you're in.

[Aros]

Actually if we didn't have school some of us might not even be on computers or on this site even. All our past experiences are what have made us today and maybe have decided if we are still alive. For all we know if there wasn't school the world would have ended years ago as we know it.

[Milo]

This is sort of a silly post! :laugh:

I suppose these haters of school would have really enjoyed living in the Dark Ages, right? I mean, repression and unenlightenment are TOTALLY the "in" thing, right guys?

Yup, and according to history classes which haters of school must skip and/or sleep through, the Dark Ages were a really great time to be alive. Ah, yes...and all because of a lack of education.

Hell, why don't we just build a freakin' time machine and head on back there! Whoo! Screw school! Yeah, let's get crackin' on that time machine...

Oh, wait. There's nobody around here who knows how to MAKE a time machine. Know why? 'Cause they never went to school!