The Grammy Awards: Biggest disappointment of the year

[Transtic Nerve]

I personally didn't watch the Grammy's, I never do, but I have seen a list of winners. And quite frankly I'm jugely disappointed. People winning Grammy's who shouldn't be making music period...

Beyonce comes away with 5 Grammys:

Best R&B Song: Crazy in Love
Best Rap/Sung Collaboration: Crazy in Love (feat. Jay Z)
Best Female R&B Preformance: Crazy in Love
Best R&B Preformance by a Duo or Group: The Closer I Get To You (Beyonce and Luther Vandross)
Best Contemporary R&B Album: Dangerously In Love

Crazy is Love is quite possibly one of the worst songs I've ever heard, if not one of the most overplayed songs, which is probably why it won so much crap. I never heard the duo she did with Luther Vandross but I'm not a fan of him anyway... Anyway, she didn't deserve to win 5 grammy's. She's a good singer, but she's over rated. Myabe it's personal prefrence, or maybe it's the fact she actually isn't that good, but it's deffinantly a huge disappointment she could walk away with this many grammy's

Eminem had one Grammy win with Lose Yourself.... how does he get a Grammy for a song that came out in 2002? Are we jumping back years cause the popular music here just can't seem to cut it?

Record of the Year went to Coldplay, Album of the year went to Outkast... can someone tell me what the hell the difference between the usage of the words Album and Record?

Evanescence wins for Best New Artist. Are they really that new? They already had an album out before their most recent, from which most of the songs on their first were on their second (however remade)

Best metal Preformance went to Metallica for St. Anger. How? This is quite possibly one of the worst rock albums I've heard, not to mention the worst by Metallica.

The only possitives out of th Grammy's were Outkast, whom I think are unique and original, Coldplay and the White Stripes.

Everything else was boring and predictable.

So what did you think of the 2003, yet we play it in 2004, Grammy Awards?

[Semjaza]

Anything Evanescence might have have put out before wouldn't have counted towards this stuff. In the mind of the Grammys, you aren't considered new until you break out onto a major label. They didn't until Fallen was released. I don't think they really had anything out other than demo-ish material previous to that anyway.

Record of the Year goes to the people involved in actually creating the record. The producer, mixers, engineers, etc. It has nothing to do with the actual album itself or the artists.

There are a few things I personally find absolutely ridiculous. Best Female Rock Vocal Performance went to Pink for Trouble. Since when is she even put in the rock category? Let alone something that's apparently better than every other rock single out there by a female?

The fact that St. Anger would win anything in the metal category is also pretty disgusting and undermines almost every other metal band in existance that is still [i]relevent[/i]. Metallica isn't when you think about pushing music forward. To me, sales numbers don't mean crap when it comes down to "Best Whatever", but I'm sure they do for the Grammys.

In any case, I think the Foo Fighters were deserving out of the nominees in the Rock Album category. Nothing this year was worse than any previous year, really. They rarely even nominate bands I think are deserving, let alone let them win.

[Arkadyz]

[color=silver][font=times new roman][b] Well I didnt catch the grammys because I had very little respect for them anymore...And after the other night Id say thats become no respect at all...

I agree that beyonce doesnt deserve that many grammys...Not by a long shot. Crazy in love is an O K song, but grammy worthy? Not at all. And the album as a whole sure as hell isnt strong enough to deserve an grammy...

Oh well like transtic said atleast a few other artists won some that actually DESERVED it... :worried: [/font][/color][/b]

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]Anything Evanescence might have have put out before wouldn't have counted towards this stuff. In the mind of the Grammys, you aren't considered new until you break out onto a major label. They didn't until Fallen was released. I don't think they really had anything out other than demo-ish material previous to that anyway.

There are a few things I personally find absolutely ridiculous. Best Female Rock Vocal Performance went to Pink for Trouble. Since when is she even put in the rock category? Let alone something that's apparently better than every other rock single out there by a female? [/B][/QUOTE]

Evanescence had a full length album, Origin, released under Big Wig Enterprises 3 years prior to Fallen. It wasn't so much demo-ish as it was an indies album. However Origin had alot of success over in Europe. Which is probably how they were noticed and therefor how they got a place on the Daredevil soundtrack.

Yeah I was gonna mention the Pink thing but I was too tired to type it all out. And I didn't hear that particular song so it could have been rock in sound so I didn't bother with it.

[Semjaza]

I know of their other material... althouh I've not heard all of it. They've been around for several years longer than that even. Origin is considered a "demo" of sorts because it never had proper distribution channels. The band itself paid to their own money to produce it. They only made a couple thousand copies and it was never sold at stores. If it was re-released once the band made it big, I have no idea (I don't think so).. A few of the songs were redone for Fallen from it.

They had EPs too which were out in 1998 and 1999 respectively. Although they were on Windup or something like that.

In any case, those were EPs, not LPs, so they don't count and Origin isn't considered something the Grammys would count for some reason. So Fallen is what we're stuck with and it's considered "new", I guess.

It's confusing because Fountains of Wayne was up for some best new artist award and they've been around for years... on a big label too. Not like Evanescence. Oh well.


Edit -- I had a bunch of info in here that was incorrect. I changed it and I apologize for any confusion. I was in a rush and as soon as I left I was like "Dammit"... but it was too late lol.

[justAfan]

I'm not really into the music scene and what's popular or not. I usually don't watch the Grammys. I only watched to see what the big opening act was. And to see what anyone might say about the boob.

But I enjoyed it. I don't know who deserved to win or who didn't. I know that I did like most of the winners. So if the award was supposed to go to the ones that I would have voted for, then the right people won lol.

So, to me, it was a good night. It was pretty much just a concert with some of my favorite songs. I do have to say that I have liked Prince since I was a kid and was glad to see him. And while I think Beyonce is pretty damned hot (and I'm a gay man!), for a second, I wondered why in the hell Mariah Carey was singing with Prince!

[ARTommy]

the grammys pretty musch sucked except for the white stripes and Outkast. the White Stripes put on a fantastic performance but im not sure if they won anything. and Outkast also put on a great show and deserved album or record or wehat ever it is of the year

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=violet]I only caught the duet between Beyonce and Prince (or is that the Artist formerly known as prince, formerly known as a symbol now known as Prince again?) I didn't see the rest of it.

I did see the clip of Justin Timberlake on CNN this morning. It's kinda off how they banned Janet from the grammy's yet let Justin go anyway since they were both to blame for the Super Bowl Fiasco.

I have to agree that the Emmy's are nothing more that an awards show for popular music. You know the stuff played over and over until it turns to meaningless crap in your head.

I don't understand Pink being counted as a rock star-if the Donna's were nominated for a Grammy that's the catergory that should've won-but I don't have the money to take over the Grammy's so.... Oh, where was i going with this? Oh, yeah

I don't watch the Grammy's because i think everything's a conspiracy theory. I'll just leave it at that.[/color]

[DarkHuntress89]

I didn't even bother watching the Grammy's this year. Today's music has all gone to hell.

[Manic Webb]

I stopped watching the Grammys years ago. There's no point.

I think some better, more Soul-centered artists should've won most of those R&B awards, but Beyonce really did have the Rap/Sung Collab award coming her way. It was over-played, but it was probably the best Rap/Sung thing I heard on the radio all year.

St. Anger won Best Metal Performance? That has "we're giving them this award just because they are who they are" written all over it. And people wonder why I don't watch the Grammys...

Pink won [i]what!?[/i] And people wonder why I don't watch the Grammys...

One major plus I heard about is how 50 Cent didn't get any awards. That's always good. Personally, I wouldn't want him to win Bingo or a raffle contest.

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Manic [/i]
[B]One major plus I heard about is how 50 Cent didn't get any awards. That's always good. Personally, I wouldn't want him to win Bingo or a raffle contest. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah but he was such a jackass he walked up on stage when Evanescence won best new artist cause he though he should have won. What kind of jackass does that? I lost alot of respect for him when he did that. He needs to accept he lost, sit down and shut up. He isn't that good, maybe he just doesn't realize that.

[Semjaza]

In a sense I'm somewhat annoyed by the Evanescence win... Not because there was anyone else nominated that was more deserving, but simply because there's quite a few bands similar to them that have been doing the same sort of style for much, much longer. If Evanescence wins an award, I can't see why Lacuna Coil hasn't. I seriously mistook Evanescence for Lacuna Coil the first time I heard them (well, until the rapping kicked in -- bad single off a decent album, I think).

Oh well. It doesn't work that way, I guess lol

[DarkHuntress89]

I personally can't stand rap. My mom listens to all that crap....which is kinda strange....but anyways, that was a bunch of bosh, that 50 Cent thing.

[Manic Webb]

I [i]do[/i] listen to rap, but I still don't like 50 Cent. He's not good. Next to Puffy (aka P.Diddy), he's probably the most overrated rapper around. You think he's not good in general? He's not even good in terms of rap. I don't know [i]why[/i] he's so popular. Even worse, he needs to deflate his bullet-riddled ego and learn to take an award loss.

Oddly enough, the only award show I can actually stand is the MTV VMAs. And I don't even like MTV that much. The awards are given based on viewers' votes, so that's probably why I like it so much. I'd like to think I'd like the Grammys more if viewers voted, but then we'd probably be cursed with a Grammy award winning 50 Cent. And that's a risk I'm just not willing to take.

[DeadSeraphim]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]
Record of the Year went to Coldplay, Album of the year went to Outkast... can someone tell me what the hell the difference between the usage of the words Album and Record?
[/B][/QUOTE]

Well, mayhap they were reffering to the wildly successful but undoubtedly rare 'Clocks Remix'? Maybe. The way I see it though it just seems like another way to waste another twenty minutes of air time, even if both of them deserved to win something.

Evanescence winning Best New Artist is just another one of the quirks of the music industry, as even if they're not new when they get a breakout hit they are bandied around as 'new'. Another example would be when Triple M (in Australia) started proclaiming Something for Kate a great [i]new[/i] band, even though they'd been around for thirteen years.

50 Cent not winning anything completes me somehow... I find him loud and obnoxious, and hate his 'rapping' especially that P.I.M.P song. Anyway, I hate 50 Cent, nuff said.

Finally, my thoughts on Beyonce sweep? Sex appeal. The song Crazy in Love is just dripping with it. Nuf said.

[Semjaza]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CrH [/i]
[B]Well, mayhap they were reffering to the wildly successful but undoubtedly rare 'Clocks Remix'? Maybe. The way I see it though it just seems like another way to waste another twenty minutes of air time, even if both of them deserved to win something.[/B][/QUOTE]

As I said before, record of the year has to do with the actual recording. Not the album. Don't think of it in the sense of a vinyl record. Remixes don't count by themselves.

"Record of the Year goes to the people involved in actually creating the record. The producer, mixers, engineers, etc. It has nothing to do with the actual album itself or the artists."

[amibasuki]

[FONT=arial]man, that must feel odd. "You had a good soundboard working for you, but your music still sucks." heh, maybe not quite like that, but I hope I made some point.

anywho, I'm still glad Coldplay got something. that's just about the only thing I'm happy to hear about Grammy-wise though. [/FONT]

[Guest kagura-san]

I was really happy for Evanescence when they won the grammys. To me, they are the best band ever!