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Vegita was always ment to be left behind, because he was not pure of heart like Goku, so he had harder times with the power, and had to, *ahem*[SIZE=1]cheat[/SIZE] *ahem* a little to get where he did(feel free to correct me :) )

Lady M - i didnt really say that, its a figment of your imagination ;)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]Plus just to make a point of error Altron Gundam, Goku couldn't go SSJ3 when he and Majin Vegita fought. He wasn't nearly strong enough yet.

Plus SSJ4 Goku was equal to SSJ4 Vegita. It's just that Bebi was kind of a hinderence to Vegita's true power.

You see to fuse the fighters must be the same power level so I guess SSJ4 Vegita was the same power level like SSJ4 Goku. [/B][/QUOTE]

son gokou became ssj3 whilst training in hell, he just never used it until he fought buu....

no, ssj4 son gokou is more powerful than ssj4 vegita, he has a lot more experience fighting as an ssj4 than vegita, not to mention that he has the experience from when he was ssj3, whereas vegita did NOT go ssj3....

they don't have to be the same power level, there just doesn't have to be too big a gap in power levels between the two fighters....

that is all, you are very much mistaken, if you had watched the buu saga, you would have known that son gokou could have become ssj3 against majin vegita because he learnt it in hell, even though son gokou turned little, his power would still have been high, it doesn't matter how little you are because you can still have power, brolli had a power level of 10 000 at birth, when chibi son gokou turned ssj3 he had the same strength equivelant to that from when he was an adult....

oh, and another way we can tell that you don't know much about the dragonball series, you keep saying [I]SAIYAN[/I] which means nothing, just the stupid dubbed name for saiya-jin, which means ape-person....

and thats all I have to say about that....
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]Hey I didn't mean to offend I just got caught up in the writing and I am sorry that I wrote somethings that offended others. But I still stand by my belief that Vegita is better. Like Lady M said Vegita fights like a war where as Goku fights to save the world. The difference is that there is always someone better than Goku and Goku surpasses that individual and usually stops there for a while until someone else comes along to threaten the world. In Vegita's case he is always trying to be the best. Better than Goku, Gohan, Trunks, Piccolo, all of them. But mostly Goku. The only time he stopped is when Goku died from Cell and Vegita kinda stopped training so hard. It really isn't very fair for him at all. Goku didn't train nearly at all close to what Vegita trains at. Goku trained at 100, Vegita trained at 400 (something like that.) and nearly died to become a Super Saiyan. Plus just to make a point of error Altron Gundam, Goku couldn't go SSJ3 when he and Majin Vegita fought. He wasn't nearly strong enough yet. Plus SSJ4 Goku was equal to SSJ4 Vegita. It's just that Bebi was kind of a hinderence to Vegita's true power. You see to fuse the fighters must be the same power level so I guess SSJ4 Vegita was the same power level like SSJ4 Goku. Plus Goku's a child so he is severly weaker than in DBZ. Making Vegita more powerful when Goku and Pan and Trunks went in search of the black star DragonBalls. And your saying I don't know DBZ. I laughed pretty hard at that one. Your a riot Altron go join the circus. [/B][/QUOTE]

1) *laughs at newbie making an *** outa himself*
2) You just proved to me in that post you don't know anything about DBZ/GT.
3) Why? Here it is. Son Gokou reached SSJ2 and SSJ3 while he was training in the afterlife. You moron, you don't have to be the same power level when you fuse. Your power levels just have to be SIMILAR. Chibi Torunkusu is stronger than Goten, and they fused. And yes, experience and training do make a BIG difference. Notice in the Cell Saga, when Gokou trained the difference in power with SSJ Gokou(Cell Games) and SSJ Gokou(Furiiza Saga). Idiot. Gokou could still go Super Saiya-jin 3 in early DBGT, BUT he could not stay in the form for long, but the bottom line is HE STILL COULD go SSJ3, making him more powerful than Vegy.
4) Bebi a hinderance? What the hell are you talking about? His power grew! Otherwise Bebi Vejita-san would've lost to SSJ3 Son Gokou. Moron. SSJ4 Son Gokou is WAY more powerful than SSJ4 Vejita, you know why? Because of two sagas of experience and battles, you know what they say, a saiya-jin gets stronger w/ every battle. Facing Supaa Jinzoningen Juhachigou was a big power boost for Son Gokou, and facing Bebi Vejita. Plus the 10x Kamehameha puts him over the top.
5) You are right, I still laugh at you not knowing anything about DBZ/GT. Your a dubbie, you can't even say the right word for saiya-jin. Your a riot, go back to watching two year old cartoons on Toonami.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]

1) *laughs at newbie making an *** outa himself*
2) You just proved to me in that post you don't know anything about DBZ/GT.
3) Why? Here it is. Son Gokou reached SSJ2 and SSJ3 while he was training in the afterlife. You moron, you don't have to be the same power level when you fuse. Your power levels just have to be SIMILAR. Chibi Torunkusu is stronger than Goten, and they fused. And yes, experience and training do make a BIG difference. Notice in the Cell Saga, when Gokou trained the difference in power with SSJ Gokou(Cell Games) and SSJ Gokou(Furiiza Saga). Idiot. Gokou could still go Super Saiya-jin 3 in early DBGT, BUT he could not stay in the form for long, but the bottom line is HE STILL COULD go SSJ3, making him more powerful than Vegy.
4) Bebi a hinderance? What the hell are you talking about? His power grew! Otherwise Bebi Vejita-san would've lost to SSJ3 Son Gokou. Moron. SSJ4 Son Gokou is WAY more powerful than SSJ4 Vejita, you know why? Because of two sagas of experience and battles, you know what they say, a saiya-jin gets stronger w/ every battle. Facing Supaa Jinzoningen Juhachigou was a big power boost for Son Gokou, and facing Bebi Vejita. Plus the 10x Kamehameha puts him over the top.
5) You are right, I still laugh at you not knowing anything about DBZ/GT. Your a dubbie, you can't even say the right word for saiya-jin. Your a riot, go back to watching two year old cartoons on Toonami. [/B][/QUOTE]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHaaaaa, go altron! you sure did put that jabroni in his place...

Son Gokou is obviously higher than vegita, Gokou earned his way to ssj4 unlike *cough* vegita*cough*...
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lilac girl [/i]
[B]i sooo do not like vegita he gets on my nerves, but he can make me laugh sometimes [/B][/QUOTE]

ah, a lot of london people don't like poor old vegita-sama, and since your from london I am not surprised....

birmingham is sooooo much calmer than london....
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Well this is an arguement that I like...sorry I'm joing so late:blush: but at least I'm here now...anyways...and I say this to Please :flaming:
eveyone...[B]You all brought up good points about Vegita[/B]..but the fact of the matter is...[B]SON GOKOU IS THE BEST AND STRONGEST!:)[/B][I]There I said it[/I]:D
But that's all I got to say for now... [/COLOR] [COLOR=crimson]
:eek::eek: Also to end on a good note [I][U]and this is my professional opinion[/U][/I] Those of you who like Vegita are not insane or crazy..You are all perfectly normal.[/COLOR] :eek::eek:
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]I'm crazy. But I still like Vegita cause he just kicks ***. What? What? He dosn't? Well wake up and smell the SSJ cause he is the WHOLE F'N SHOW BABY [/B][/QUOTE]

Correction, Son Gokou is...DUH!

Lady Mac, yes you are very much insane...
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Well. From what I saw in the show. Without Vegita, Goku would have probably never have went SSJ. Cell would have killed all the Z fighters eventually, or the androids, and Buu would have come back and destroyed the world. Plus Trunks wouldn't have been born and Bebi would end up getting in a huge war between Buu and Freeza resulting in the complete destruction of the Universe. Yah Goku is the one true star of the show.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]Well. From what I saw in the show. Without Vegita, Goku would have probably never have went SSJ. Cell would have killed all the Z fighters eventually, or the androids, and Buu would have come back and destroyed the world. Plus Trunks wouldn't have been born and Bebi would end up getting in a huge war between Buu and Freeza resulting in the complete destruction of the Universe. Yah Goku is the one true star of the show. [/B][/QUOTE]

Especially how Vejita was dead for half the Furiiza Saga...

Cell was killed by Gohan not Vejita.....and Mr. Satan caused Son Gohan to go SSJ2...not Vejita....

We are arguing that he is not more powerful than Gokou, not his purpose in the show, because every character has a purpose in the DB/Z/GT series. But the bottom line is Gokou is more powerful than Vejita.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]Mr.Satan did not cause Gohan to go SSJ2, it was android 16, MR. Satan assisted in it. Dumbass. Oh and Sorry I forgot
VEGITA'S BETTER THAN GOKU. Happy?:devil: [/B][/QUOTE]

what!!!!

Goku is better than Vegita....

and actually satan did, he made him pretty much reach that level...
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
[B]gggrrrrrr...i just explained it! maybe a tournament has rules, but not a real fight! if anyone else calls vegeta a cheater, i will be forced to lay the smackdown on their candy a*ses!!! [/B][/QUOTE]

The only reason that i find Vegeta a Cheater is because he had to CHEAT to get to SSJ4. He skipped SSJ3, not because he was more powerfull, but because he had some help from a Brute ray. Even though i dont like ceap shots**which is how vegeta won every fight he had with gokou** they are always allowed if its not a tourny. thats my take.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
[B]okay, think about it. would you walk ten miles in a blizzard to get to the store when you could just teleport yourself there? no. this is a metaphor. [/B][/QUOTE]:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: [COLOR=royalblue] You know what Lady [B]you are crazy[/B]. I just saw this and had to laugh my butt off . I agree with you 100% though, but still.. I personally liked it when Vegita had to work to get to SSJ. it showed how determined he was... unlike how he became SSJ4..but hey, he did get there though.[/COLOR]
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Guest Altron Gundam
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadianVegita [/i]
[B]Mr.Satan did not cause Gohan to go SSJ2, it was android 16, MR. Satan assisted in it. Dumbass. Oh and Sorry I forgot
VEGITA'S BETTER THAN GOKU. Happy?:devil: [/B][/QUOTE]


The source of how he went SSJ2 is mr. satan.....therefore w/o him Gohan would've never gone SSJ2...

Your just a biased wanna-be DBZ fan...you know nothing...

You're expressing your stupidity, because even after all the points have been said, you still think Gokou is worse than Vejita, even though Gokou was the one who defeated the most powerful villain, Li Shenron...dumbass....and then merged w/ the DB's.
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