Art Death is release, a bloodsoaked fan.

[Mitch]

[center][img]http://opuslotus.250free.com/deathisrelease.JPG[/img][/center]

[img]http://opuslotus.250free.com/bloodsoakedfandraw.JPG[/img]

[Megumi]

Sorry but... what the crap IS this?

[Mitch]

[size=1][color=red] It's my artistic abilites. You don't like it? I can't believe this! It's treason! It's betrayl! Oh, save me!

Heh. I'm sure many people thought what you said when they first saw it.

Do I [i]have[/i] to explain it? I guess so.

The first image, created amazingly (and wonderfully) in Paint, serves as a title page. If you cannot read the title, it says, "Death is release, a bloodsoaked fan." If anyone has read the poem "society ****** me," they will know where this emanated from. But, to make it short, the lines, "Death is release, a bloodsoaked fan/ thank god for that much to have had," owe their creation to that poem.

What I've done here is merely taken those lines. . .and given them my own meaning.

Moving onto the second picture. First you see the superbly rendered, immaculate drawing of me. Isn't it so lifelike? Doesn't it just jump off the page at you? It does that to me.

What we see is me with a halo upon my head; a Holy Bible in my hand; a crucifix upon my neck. This of course symoblizes me if I were religious and believed in the Catholic religion. And, if you don't know what a bibliophile is, that's one who reads books and loves books. In the picture, I am seen saying, "Thanks God!" Which comes directly from the poem lines that inspired this amazing work of art: "thank god for that much to have had."

Now, moving on. To the far right of me is a bloodsoaked fan. The one from the poem. It's seen here blowing harsh, the "whirr whirr" cadencing from it. The fan symoblizes death; death is being symoblized as a fan--it sucks you in, slowly, throughout your life; then, eventually, you go into it, you go into that bloodsoaked fan. That's what the fan means, if it's not obvious to you.

The fan contains offal. If you don't know what offal means, it is "the viscera and trimmings of a butchered animal removed by dressing."

And, all the red all about is, of course, the blood the fan creates when it chews up humans; it is the blood bled from those who have died.

Down in the middle is God. I represent him as a fist. I closed fist. A closed fist often symoblizes power, crushing power that cannot be crushed; that is my intention here. A fist also reminds me of the mushroom cloud created by an atomic bomb, but that's less pertinent and less conspicuous in this.

Now, God is saying "Ye art thanked." He is saying you're welcome for me giving you death. His fist is also covered with the blood of the innocent; the blood of the bloodsoaked fan.

I say death is a release because that is what I think it is: a release. It lets you get out of all of life's trivial ends. If there's a God, it's a creation of God to end all this ceaseless toil.

It is an equal end to a beginning.

The reason for my creation of this tediously crafted piece was because I wanted to visionfy my poem's lines; I felt that the image was strong in my mind, and would make a nice picture. I also like the lines of the poem.

There. Explained enough?

Do you know what this IS now?

I didn't mean to offend you at all, by the way. You simply asked what this is; I simply explained.[/size][/color]

[James]

[quote name='Megumi']Sorry but... what the crap IS this?[/quote]
[color=#707875]Haven't you read our sticky about constructive criticism, Megumi?

If not, I suggest that you do.[/color]

[Retribution]

Wow, its very deep...

Im serious. I had to think for a while about why God's hand was soaked. I also didn't get it the first time around because I thought the fan was ... like, a fan of a music group or somethng.

Wow.

[Megumi]

[QUOTE=James][color=#707875]Haven't you read our sticky about constructive criticism, Megumi?

If not, I suggest that you do.[/color][/QUOTE]


I have, and that's why I apologized in the post... but I didn't know what else to say. I wasn't trying to be mean, it was a legitimate question- I really did not know what he was trying to get at with the picture. It's hard to constructively criticize something that you can't recognize as being anything.

Now that he has explained it, I'll attempt to amend my errors and post actual comments on the picture.

Nice symbolism, but perhaps a little too deep... at first glance it is hard to distinguish it as more than lots of red, a stick figure, and a fist. It might also have been better to post the explanation with the picture, and saved a lot of people from confusion.

[Mitch]

[quote] I have, and that's why I apologized in the post... but I didn't know what else to say. I wasn't trying to be mean, it was a legitimate question- I really did not know what he was trying to get at with the picture. It's hard to constructively criticize something that you can't recognize as being anything.

Now that he has explained it, I'll attempt to amend my errors and post actual comments on the picture.

Nice symbolism, but perhaps a little too deep... at first glance it is hard to distinguish it as more than lots of red, a stick figure, and a fist. It might also have been better to post the explanation with the picture, and saved a lot of people from confusion.
[/quote]

[size=1][color=red] I think it's easy enough to see what the picture's about. . .I mean, if you look hard enough, you can see that I labeled everything. But anyway.

Another point I'd like to make: usually, with anything I post (whether it be a writing piece, or this), I am looking for people to think for themselves. This picture I posted might mean something else to you. . .and so, why not explain what that thing is? It's not thinking deeply, it's simply understanding something from what you can see from it.

People these days don't seem to think enough for themselves; they simply go along with the status quo. They do what seems the right thing within a set frame of time--when they exist.

What I explained about the picture isn't what it might mean to someone else. . .say someone else is Christian. To them it might me something completely different.

A lot of what I write is heavily amibiguous. You have to look at it and sort through what I make and piece it together and make out of it what you see. It's like that with anything. . .take what you learn at school as an example. . .take almost anything. You have to piece it together so it makes sense to you.

I wasn't offended by your first post, I just believe you could've elaborated more. If you don't know what it is. . .then think about it, and elaborate. Otherwise, as your first post stands, it'd be considered spam, and lacking much point. But, that's for the mods to handle, which I am no longer heh.

Anyway. . .yeah.

When I post things on here, I wish I'd see more people telling me what they think I've made means to them. I don't see it enough with my stories, poetry, and the same goes here. . .although this is the first time I've posted something here in the art forum.

I didn't really post it for others to tell me how bad it is. I know it's bad. My last post was almost complete sarcasm at this point. . .which I'm sure you caught or you didn't. It's hard to catch stuff like that in the written word, but you know, if you've read enough of my posts, I'm sure you'd know it. But you haven't heh.

But, nonetheless, this forum is for other's to tell how good another's work of art is. Since I lack artistic skills in the drawing sense, it's fine to point out that my picture's not the best. But I made it in paint. It did take some time, actually. lol. Sad as it is.

More or less, I posted this here so people could draw their own conclusions as to what I created means. Moreso what the poetry lines from my poem and what they mean: "Death is release, a bloodsoaked fan/ thank god for that much to have had."

I plan on making more drawings like this. My next one should be "Cigar Smoking Sky," and I'll take some quotes from the poem of it I have.

Man, stuff like this reminds me of Break's comics he used to make; man, do I miss those. . .

Break, wherever you are, those comics ruled. I guess this is me bringing something like them back. . .although what I'm making pales in comparison I guess.

So yeah.

Think for yourself. [i]Think[/i]. It's not too hard. It's what I wish more people would do. Thinking when you post something, and giving me what something means to you is far greater than just some monotonous review with arbitrary ratings via a numerical system heh. James is fond of saying something to that end.[/size][/color]

[Megumi]

Sorry if I've sounded like a jerk in my past two posts... I'm just realizing I probably did.

However, I'm insulted that because I didn't understand what you were going for in the picture that you automatically think I don't think for myself.

What did I think when I first saw this? That you pulled some quote from a random song/poem, maybe changed a word or two, and drew a picture as a parody of it, using it to poke fun at religion just because you could. And nothing ticks me off more than that. I mean, it's hard to take stick figures and God's hemorrhoid resembling fist very seriously, so I assumed it was some kind of dumb joke without much meaning.

And I have a few nitpicky points. Okay, you say God's fist is soaked with the blood of "innocent," making Him seem evil, but the whole message of your picture is that death is good, right? It doesn't follow. Also, "Ye art thanked" seems to me to imply that God is thanking the stick figure dude... it doesn't really mean "you're welcome."

I'm sorry I don't really see the connection between a fan and death. Even when you explained it, it seems a bit... stretched to me. I mean, it could as well be a blood soaked vacuum cleaner, sucking us closer and closer to our demise. What's my point? I don't remember anymore. Oh, yeah, don't think I'm stupid because I don't think the same way as you. Yeah, I think that's it.

Oh, I don't mean to make this into some kind of argument or anything... I think we're just on completely different levels, and having trouble understanding each other, so I'm trying to explain myself. Sorry if I'm still less than clear. Now excuse me as I go pound my head into some wall to try to get rid of this headache.

[Mitch]

[size=1][color=red] There you go. You did what you should've done right off.

One correction though. They aren't random lines from some random poem.

I wrote it.

I'm not going to touch what you say; all that you said is valid points and things you should've done in your first post.

There you go. You just summed up what I said in my last post.

And you know what? I can agree with you on the point that we differ on opinions, and that is fine.

Don't be afraid to speak up. Say what you say, and it will be said.

It was done mostly in jest. You're right.

What can I say. . .I'm an odd man.[/size][/color]