The Conspiracy to Kill J.F.K.

[Transtic Nerve]

I just got done watching the movie [i]JFK[/i] which is about the murder and conspiracy to kill J.F.K. Its really great, you all should watch it. Brigns some new insight to the death of John F. Kennedy if you already haven't seen alot of what evidence has been provided.

Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone here actually believes the "official" story on the death of JFK? Does anyone believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed President Kennedy from the 6th floor of the book depository in Dallas Texas? Or do you believe that it was indeed a conspiracy put on by the government and whatever other associations might have been involved?

I have no doubt in my mind that the murder of JFK was indeed a conspiracy. I'm not sure who was involved, but I have no doubt that the story given by the government is nothing more than a cover-up for actually happened that day, whatever that may be.

[BlueYoshi]

It is hard to believe what happened that day, but even harder not to believe, but you have to remember that this is the American government we're talking about, one of the most ruthless in the world.

I for one do believe that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, but politics is a rough game where the weak lose and the strong win. I'd guess that the secrets behind the assassination died with the people responsible, because after all, chances can't be taken with a red tape operation as such, no matter how long ago the case was.

As for the death of JFK, he probably just wasn't needed anymore and displayed a bad role for the government. However, as much as I feel that random accusations are meaningless, it seems that the truth behind the conspiracy will never be unfolded.

[DeathBug]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Remember Occam's Razor: if there are multiple explanations for an event, the simplest one is moat likely the correct one.

John F Kennedy died because Lee Harvey Oswald shot him in the head. The reason the Conspiracy abounds is that many people have a hard time accepting that the President they liked so much was killed by LHO, who was basically a loser. from everything I've seen about him, it looks like Oswald only did one thing right in his life, and that was learn to fire a gun over long distances.

Now, if we want to talk about an interesting and actually true conspracy, I want to know who Deep Throat is. [/color][/size][/font]

[bogger3k]

Fisrt of all much of the evidence presented in the film JFK was fictional. First of all the magic bullet part of the film sat the driver directly in front of JFK. That wasn't true. It also didn't take into account that the driver turned whaen he was hit whick allowed many of the wounds make sense.

AS for deep throat I would like to know as well, but we won't until he dies.

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE=DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Remember Occam's Razor: if there are multiple explanations for an event, the simplest one is moat likely the correct one.

John F Kennedy died because Lee Harvey Oswald shot him in the head. The reason the Conspiracy abounds is that many people have a hard time accepting that the President they liked so much was killed by LHO, who was basically a loser. from everything I've seen about him, it looks like Oswald only did one thing right in his life, and that was learn to fire a gun over long distances.

Now, if we want to talk about an interesting and actually true conspracy, I want to know who Deep Throat is. [/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE]

Actually, compared to his freinds and other men int he armed forced for which he served, Oswald wasn't that good with a rifle. Esspecially not better than any FBI and CIA sharp shooters. It's hard to believe Kennedy was shot by LHO because of the story given by the government. Magic bullet? How does Kennedy have an exit wound in the back of his head if LHO shot him from the book depository, which was behind Kennedy? Shouldn't that be an entrance wound? He shot 3 times in 5.6 second, you know about guns, is that even possible with a rifle that takes a minimum 2.3 seconds to reload? I don't think LHO was a loser either. Oswald might have been one of the men to have shot Kennedy, however, I don't believe he was alone and I don't believe the fatal head shot could have physically come from the 6th floor of the book despository like the government wants us to believe. If you look at the video tape that day, you can see Kennedy being shot several times, once in the neck by someone in front of him, once in the back by someone behind him and once in the head by someone to the right of him. (not to mention the front seat passenger, Governor Connally, who also shot) LHO simply cannot be in a minimum of 3 places at one time. Thats what I find hard to believe.

Anyway, I think Deep Thraot is probably Henry Kissenger. I wouldn't doubt it if it was. It all makes sense. Although we'll never know. Untill he dies that is. The two people that wrote the article about Watergate and Deep Throat swore they would never give away who he was till he died, and last I checked Kissenger was still alive. However, one man doesn't make a conspiracy... It's a mystery, not a conspiracy.

[bogger3k]

let me set a few things strait. It has been proven that LHO was able to shot tree time in an 8 second margin not a 5.6. Alos LHO was in reality a former Marine sharpshooter. The rumors about him not being able to shoot well are all false. Also the exit wound was out the front of his head not the back. He was also shot through the back of the troat and he had no wound in his back. I'm not sure how that rumor even started.Kennedy also went back and to the left because, as gun tests will show us, when a bullit hits you you don't go in the same direction as when it hits you, sometimes yes, all of the time no. As for Governor Connally he was shot with the smae bullit that struck Kennedy in the throat. The absolute truth about all of this is we won't know until they allow a proper autopsy to be preformed on President Kennedy's brain, which I believe our government doesn't even know where it is located. Sorry to all the conspiricy fanatics, but I've done much research on this and have sorted much fact from fiction and this is what I know.

[Transtic Nerve]

[quote name='bogger3k']let me set a few things strait. It has been proven that LHO was able to shot tree time in an 8 second margin not a 5.6. Alos LHO was in reality a former Marine sharpshooter. The rumors about him not being able to shoot well are all false. Also the exit wound was out the front of his head not the back. He was also shot through the back of the troat and he had no wound in his back. I'm not sure how that rumor even started.Kennedy also went back and to the left because, as gun tests will show us, when a bullit hits you you don't go in the same direction as when it hits you, sometimes yes, all of the time no. As for Governor Connally he was shot with the smae bullit that struck Kennedy in the throat. The absolute truth about all of this is we won't know until they allow a proper autopsy to be preformed on President Kennedy's brain, which I believe our government doesn't even know where it is located. Sorry to all the conspiricy fanatics, but I've done much research on this and have sorted much fact from fiction and this is what I know.[/quote]

The whole idea behind a conspiracy is to shrowed the truth. Therefor any research you may have done could be falsified. I'm not to doubt you, for I'm sure you're a credible historian.

The rumor of Kennedy being shot in the back is from the video which shows him suddenly lean over.

I've not known anyone or anything to be shot in the head and have their head move in the direction they have been shot first. For a body part that only has a supporting structure on one side, it tend to be moved in the direction in which force is applied. For you to be saying that being shot with high powered rifle acurately from such a far distance, the bullet would be moving at tremendous speed. For JFK's head to move backward, toward the impact of the bullet.... that defies the whole notion of the Laws of Motion. In fact the whole murder defies the laws of Gravity and Motion. What about the bullet fragment found by the overpass that struck a bystander there?

There's too many what ifs in this case that can't be proven, even by yourself as much as you want to say you can. Too many what ifs provide a high chance of conspiracy. If what the government was saying was true and they indeed have nothing to hide, then why couldn't they perform a proper autopsy, why can't they produce the evidence that is 100% accurate, and how do they lose the brain of the president? Seems to me like they are hiding something. I dunno what that something is, but they are hiding it.

And is it so much a coincidence that Robert Kennedy was shot just a few years later, and then JFK Jr. dies in a mysterious plane crash a few years ago. Looks like someone has it out for the Kennedys, or maybe God just doesn't like them.

Can you produce documents from which you did this research, I'm interested in seeing them. Maybe it'll make me "believe."

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=darkviolet]There's also been a rumor about a second gunman down a ways which could explain the direction that Kennedy was shot. Unfortunately the United State's chance to learn everything surrounding the assasination died when LHO was shot.

Heck for all we really know Jackie may have arranged the assasination becuase she was tired of Jack sleeping around with other women. That's my opinion.

While we're talking about death theories. Does anyone think that the Kennedy's may have conspired to kill her? I've always wondered about that.[/color]

[Brasil]

You have to keep one thing in mind when watching the film, JFK. The force behind it, Oliver Stone, is a conspiracy freak. He's been made fun of for it. Think Mel Gibson from Conspiracy Theory, but in real life, and that's Oliver Stone. The film shouldn't be considered factual or having any bearing at all, really, on any facts regarding the JFK assassination, because it's Oliver Stone. You expect some outrageous political stance coming from him, whether it's left, right, or whatever. What I'm getting at is, Stone is an entertainer. Like...oh, I don't know...Michael Moore. While their political Ideologies may differ, they're still heavily slanted, and don't really paint an objective picture of anything.

And regarding JFK and the conspiracy theories, until there is definite, concrete proof that there was some sneaky crap going on that day in Dallas, it's still pure hypothesis and conjecture. Believe it all you want, whoever does believe it, but I don't bite often, and when I do, it's only when there is worthwhile bait. Until then, some fanciful idea of government operatives on the Grassy Knoll taking out their own President is story material and entertaining the idea as truth is the basis for a story, for a creative endeavor, like Oliver Stone's JFK.