Troy

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

I watched this film twice, and I must say it's pretty good. The acting at times leaves a bit to be desired, but besides that and some of the casting choices I'd have to say I'm very pleased with the film. I went into it expecting much worse than it turned out to be.

First of all, it's quite accurate. Sure, it takes a few liberties (the most notable one being that the war does not last 10 years in it; not even close), but for the most part everything is done right. Most major scenes from the Illiad are there, and none stray all too far from the original work.

The fights are, for the most part, decent as well. Well, the battles are fine too, but I'm talking about the fights involving Hector and Achilles (alone and vs. each other). Sure, Brad Pitt doesn't exactly look like a Greek hero, but he does look cool when he fights, and not too many actors do.

Anyway, who else here has seen it, and what do you think of the film?

[Ashura]

I really enjoyed it. I thought that because it was so long, it would be like Titanic and be very patchy at times, but I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I'm probably going to see it again soon.

[NorykoAngelcry]

[quote name='Ashura']I really enjoyed it. I thought that because it was so long, it would be like Titanic and be very patchy at times, but I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I'm probably going to see it again soon.[/quote]

[SIZE=2][color=darkred][font=Verdana]Never compare Troy to Titanic again . . .

Ok. . my thoughts? I loved the scenery and costumes of the movie. The movies scope really seemed to be huge, and beautifully done, CG or not! Troy actually seemed to be a real city, and all of the locations inside or outside of the buildings really seemed to put me into the movie that much further. I appreciated the majority of the costumes that were in the movie. The suits of armor really didn't seem overly ornate and the majority of the weapons seemed pretty dull and ordinary. Even the more extravagent weapons and armor/outfits seemed toned down a bit, it was really nice to see.

As for the battle scenes? They were really exceptional. . I found myself in awe of a few of the scenes -- especially the first attack on Troy by the Greeks. The battle between Hector and Archilles was one of the best I have seen in a LONG time in movies. I really liked how it wasn't just a battle with these heroes going for instant kill shots.

[spoiler]I would have liked for Achilles death to be a little better done though. . But I won't go into details, I'll just say it was . . weak! ^_^ lol[/spoiler]

What else. . Well, I really enjoyed the 'slow' parts of the movie. It tended to give a little bit of insight as to what some of these people were going through. I also enjoyed the acting in the movie. I think people that don't like the acting are really going to the wrong types of movies out there. . go see something like House of Sand and Fog. My own thoughts on that though. . so, whatever ^_^

I give the movie an 8 out of 10.[/SIZE][/color][/font]

[DeathBug]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]What did I like the most about [i]Troy[/i]? I saw it with this really cute girl. What did I like about the actual movie? They shoved the new preview to [i]Spider-Man 2[/i] right before it.

This should give you an indication of my feelings towards the movie. The majority of the characters were self-involved idiots, there were gaping plot holes, [spoiler](the King of Troy manages to walk into the Greek camp [i]and no Greeks notice this?![/i][/spoiler], historical innaccuracy, and thre typical over-romantisizing the takes place in so many epics today.

I haven't been this disappointed in a movie since [i]The Last Samaurai[/i]. If you haven't seen it, don't.[/color][/font][/size]

[XxmagentaxX]

I saw it Saturday night and was so excited and anxious to see it.
I had heard all these great things.

I have to say I was totally dissappointed. I was bored half to death.

I love Greek Mythology, but they didn't explain a lot of stuff. Such as: why Paris and Hector were in Sparta in the first place, and they the Trogan War lasted for a decade. I hate when movies based on something pretty much everyone knows leave out major details.

my favorite part of the movie, Im sad to say, was the ending credits and the song by Josh Groban. :(

[Transtic Nerve]

[quote name='ScirosDarkblade']First of all, it's quite accurate. Sure, it takes a few liberties (the most notable one being that the war does not last 10 years in it; not even close), [/quote]

I must say this really quick. Maybe I didn't read this right, but it seems like your saying the war didn't last 10 years. But it did. If you're comparing to what Homer wrote in the Illiad, he started his story in the 10th year of the war. The Trojan war is also referred to as the Ten-Year War. I'm sorry for just bursting in like that lol.

On that note I want to go see this movie and probably will sometime soon.

[Zen]

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I havn't seen this film in its interity. I've seen several different trailers and even the fight between Achilles (just a really cool character and legend) and Hector (Bana does pretty well with him from what I've seen) outside the walls of Troy. I really want to see the film. When I saw the the Hector v. Achilles battle, I loved it, especially the spear part where Brad Pitt just gets real height and slams his spear into the sheild. Not alot of affect, but just cool to watch.

I'm actually half Greek in decent and I love the mythology, so this is also a big motive for me to see it. I also just love those epic movies and as I've heard, this is supposed to be one. I can't wait to see it.[/color][/size]

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

[QUOTE=Transtic Nerve]I must say this really quick. Maybe I didn't read this right, but it seems like your saying the war didn't last 10 years. But it did. If you're comparing to what Homer wrote in the Illiad, he started his story in the 10th year of the war. The Trojan war is also referred to as the Ten-Year War. I'm sorry for just bursting in like that lol.

On that note I want to go see this movie and probably will sometime soon.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you DIDN'T read it right. I said what was the most notable liberty the film adaptation took. Yes, the Trojan war lasted supposedly from 1194 to 1184 BC. And yes, the Iliad's events take place in the last year, ending with Priam acquiring Hector's body from Achilles, and that's where the Oddysey picks up. In the film, the war appears to last perhaps a couple of months (assuming every time they show funeral pyres, 12 days pass...).

Also, whoever couldn't figure out why Hector and Paris were in Sparta at the beginning of the film, it was that they were representatives of Troy trying to secure a peace with Menelaus. Which they did, until Menelaus found out Paris stole Helen from him.

[Onix]

I haven't seen the movie, and don't intend to for one key reason.

They changed the bloody ending!!!

[quote name='ScirosDarkblade']First of all, it's quite accurate...Most major scenes from the Illiad are there, and none stray all too far from the original work[/quote]

You're kidding, right? How about the fact that in the Illiad, [spoiler]Paris dies! And Menelaus (her husband. I can't remember his name)? He's not supposed to die. He's supposed to take her home.[/spoiler]

It's really irritating.

Oh, I will say one thing good for it. Orlando Bloom was well cast as Paris (woman-stealing pretty boy scumbag). Also, can someone please tell me who played Odysseyus? I heard it was Russel Crowe, and that's a huge mistake. (Russel Crowe as one of the most brilliant men in the world? Yeah, who's he trying to kid.) I also disagree with Brad Pitt being Achilles (unless I was once again misinformed.)

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

[quote name='Unborn Lord Xion]You're kidding, right? How about the fact that in the Illiad, [spoiler']Paris dies! And Menelaus (her husband. I can't remember his name)? He's not supposed to die. He's supposed to take her home.[/spoiler][/quote]
Yes, those are differences. But the way the film handles them, they are quite forgivable. At least that's my opinion having watched the film. I said there were some liberties the film took; I just didn't feel like listing them all, seeing as everyone reads blacked-out spoilers anyway.

[QUOTE]Oh, I will say one thing good for it. Orlando Bloom was well cast as Paris (woman-stealing pretty boy scumbag). Also, can someone please tell me who played Odysseyus? I heard it was Russel Crowe, and that's a huge mistake. (Russel Crowe as one of the most brilliant men in the world? Yeah, who's he trying to kid.) I also disagree with Brad Pitt being Achilles (unless I was once again misinformed.)[/QUOTE]
I thought Orland Bloom did a pretty lousy job. Part of it was that Paris was such an annoying character, but Bloom made him even less likeable in my eyes. Also, Sean Bean plays Oddyseus. Sean Bean is always awesome (Boromir in LotR, Partridge in Equilibrium, 006 in Goldeneye, etc.). Yeah, Brad Pitt is Achilles, and he doesn't look Greek at all. Plus the part might have been a bit much for him to play, because I didn't think he pulled it off perfectly. In my opinion that's the worst thing about the film.

[Onix]

Thanks for informing me on the true casting of Odysseus. I was terrified it was Russel Crowe, because he seems more like the Achilles type.

And at least you have a good reubuttal for my comment. I did not the 'liberties' thing, but chose to vent my anger instead. It's not personal, unless you wrote the script.

I mean, the Illiad is a classic representation of the Trojan War, although I guess it's too much to ask for an Illiad movie, just one about said War. At least it's not as bad as the joke I heard about "The Passion."

[quote name='Some Annonymous Movie Exec-Guy']Great story, but can you change the ending?[/quote]

Still, I don't like it, and won't be forking over 8 bucks to see it. Maybe I'll watch it on cable.

[Justin]

I enjoyed it. Granted, Pitt doesn't even look remotely Greek--but he does have a very majestic feel to him. Almost like he's too pretty to exist, and then kick butt at the same time. Ehh...Orlando didn't impress me in this film, though. He flatly made me angry at the end, but I knew it had to happen that way anyway.

Whoever played Helen was a good choice. She was quite attractive.

-Justin

[vegeta rocker]

yeah this movie was a total dissapointment to me, and man was i pissed. The extra hour was definetly not needed. Maybe if the war had gone on and on i would have understood. But it didn't thus it sucked.

The cinematography just pissed me off, i mean did he just get bored or what?
You didnt need that zoom in the movie, the zoom is taboo!!!!!
and what was up with all the birds eye views? A few were needed, most weren't.
The POV shots also were stupid, you needed like.....ONE!!!!
One of the best parts of the movie was me seeing the brad pitt look alike outside the theater promoting the movie.

Okay i might be being a bit harsh but it was definetly a rental, not worth 6.50.

What a waste for Wolfgang Peterson.

[terra]

I feel like though the movie didn't follow anything except the most basic plotline of its source, it still worked very well. They highly exaggerated Agamemnon's greed, since he's never that bad of a guy in the [i]Iliad[/i]. But it's more acceptable to be able to see the good and bad in both sides when you're reading; when you're watching a movie, you want someone to root for, and they accomplished that by making Agamemnon into a complete jerk.

Of course, they also gave Achilles many more redeeming qualities in the movie (i.e. Briseis) than Homer gave him. In the [i]Iliad[/i] he's basically never redeemed, so [spoiler]his death is okay, whereas when he dies in the movie it's heartrending (or supposed to be, at least, and hey it worked on me)[/spoiler]. Again, though, I think the changes were okay, since it added to the cinematic and epic quality in a way that works much better for a movie than a book. And sure, Brad Pitt doesn't look particularly Greek, but I still think he was casted quite well. He pulls off the whole "I may be an a******, but I'm a [i]skilled[/i] a******" thing better than most other actors I can think of.

I suppose what I'm basically saying is that true, they changed a great deal of the story, but the majority of it has probably been changed enough from the original "history" anyway that it doesn't matter too much. They ended up creating a movie that was epic in feel, and that seems to me to be what they set out to accomplish. I really liked it, and have more to say ... but I plan to see it a second time, so maybe I'll come back here too :p.

[xmystic_silverx]

[size=1]The movie... it was really disappointing. I mean, I love Orlando Bloom but isn't he supposed to die? I was even more angry [spoiler]when they made him crawl back to his brother.[/spoiler] It would have been nice if they atleast followed the story a bit better than they had.

The fights were great and that was basically the only thing. I was suprised at how many times Brad Pitt got naked, for all those scenes they could have added more to the 10 year war.

[spoiler]The death of Achilles[/spoiler] was dull. Yes Orlando killed him but like I said before, Paris was supposed to die! Paris was a pretty boy and if they kept him alive then they should have let him run away with Helen.

All in all it was a [I]pretty[/I] good movie. The fact that Orlando was in the movie made a little more worth watching.[/size]

[friday 13]

[FONT=Century Gothic]it reminded me of lord of the rings[/FONT] :eek: