Anime Samurai Champloo [from the creator of Cowboy Bebop]

[Guest Night Prowler]

Meh, I've seen them all and my Fav is Mugen, he's got a better Fighting Style (isn't it like Campo??) and a better Personality and History out of the rest.

My Fav Ep is Probably 23 (Baseball) or the one with the Red Light District Ninja Girl (you know the one when Jin Fishes for the Fake Gold).

[Magus]

That's a toughy. I guess I'd say my favorite would be Mugen. For some reason I find him alot different all the other hot heads. Anytime I need a comic relief I could always depend on Mugen because of his actions. But to be honest, I like Jin and Fuu just as much as Mugen but enough about that.

I just saw the episode that came on about 45 minutes ago and I have to say that was probably my favorite episode throughout the entire series. Don't get me wrong. Each episode was entertaining but this one had everything I'd look for in an anime.

Question. I may have to rewatch it though. [spoiler]Did that blind lady die at the end because I didn't see any blood on her at all, nor did I see Mugen complete that swing?[/spoiler] Again, I may have to rewatch that part.

[celestialcharm]

I love Samurai Champloo! I watched 25 episodes yesterday night. It was that good.

I have no idea who my favorite character is. They all have their good and bad points.

One of my favorite episodes was the one when Jin and Mugen [spoiler]read Fuu's diary. As soon as they finished reading the first entry, I knew she knew that they were going to read it. I guess they were just too slow/nosy to notice her writing style.[/spoiler]

[Guest Stafal-chan]

heyy do mugen and spike from cowboy bebop have the same voice over becasue they sound the same.
i like mugen the best!!!

[r2vq]

According to ANN:
Kouichi Yamadera - Spike (Japanese)
Steven Jay Blum - Spike (English)

Kazuya Nakai - Mugen (Japanese)
Daniel Andrews - Mugen (English)

So neither Japanese or English Sike shared a Seiyuu with Mugen.

-Arvi

[Magus]

Actually r2vq, I believe that's another alias that Steven Blum goes under. There's a different site that says Steven Jay Blum is voice acting as Mugen.

[Guest Stafal-chan]

[QUOTE=r2vq]According to ANN:
Kouichi Yamadera - Spike (Japanese)
Steven Jay Blum - Spike (English)

Kazuya Nakai - Mugen (Japanese)
Daniel Andrews - Mugen (English)

So neither Japanese or English Sike shared a Seiyuu with Mugen.

-Arvi[/QUOTE]

thanks i wasn't really sure but they sounded kinda similar in my opinion...maybe my hearing is just bad... :animeswea

hee hee i should read more than one...(in other words i just read the one by Sting) So umm are they or aren't they because i think they sound alike... hmm maybe i'll chekc the credits next time i watch...

[Magus]

Yea, they are the same person.

[quote name='Impd or whatever it's called']Other alias: Daniel Andrews / Steven J. Blum / Steven Blum / Steve Blum / Roger Canfield / Richard Cardona / Steven Jay / Brandon Jeremy / David Lucas / Andrew Watton [/quote]

And there you have it. Kind of makes you wonder which is his real name.

[r2vq]

Whoops. Sorry about that. Didn't consider the "alias" factor. ^^ I might have, though, if I've seen the dub for Champloo. Good ear Stafal-chan.

-Arvi

[tomieharley]

This is my first post and hopefully, I won't screw it up too much. Anyway, my birthday is coming up soon and I decided to buy myself the final two dvds in the Samurai Champloo series. So basically, I have a few questions for everyone who's seen it:

1. How did you like it overall?

2. What do you wish had been added in? For example, more fights, a love scene, a pie eating contest, etc...

3. Do you think this ending was better than Cowboy Bebop's?

4. If anything, what did you not like about the ending?

5. [spoiler]Who do you think would have won if the swords hadn't broke: Mugen or Jin or nobody?[/spoiler]

Who was a better hero: Mugen or Spike? Or rather, who do you like better?

7. [Spoiler]Why do you think none of our heroes died? Was this a good thing or a bad thing?[/spoiler]

8. To you, what was the main theme of the series or point the series made? For instance, to me, the story ultimately ended up being about friendship than just revenge, considering how much killing has gone on in the series. All three of our heroes were alone and nursing some personal wound from a past event. But as their journey came to an end, they were each changed and no longer clinging onto the past. [Spoiler]Fuu finds out her father did not abandon her, and Jin no longer has to carry the guilt of killing his master or figure out why he's here in this world.[/spoiler] This never would have happened if they hadn't gone on this journey and been together.

You can answer all the questions you like but at least answer more than one if possible. Don't forget to warn about spoilers. I really liked the ending personally. The meeting between [spoiler]Fuu and her father[/spoiler] was kind of a let down though. Once the ball gets rolling on this topic, I'll throw myself on in here more.

[Dagger]

Just a note: I added spoiler tags to your post.

1. I enjoyed it. There were some weaker portions (such as the [spoiler]zombie[/spoiler] episode), but when Champloo got good, it was [i]really[/i] good. I can see myself separately revisiting all of the multi-episode stories at some point in the future. That said, I still have discs 5 through 7 sitting in a pile; I'm waiting until I slip into the mood to re-watch the rest of the show.

2. I would have liked to see a follow-up on Mugen and Jin's [spoiler]romantic interests--namely, the ninja lady and the prostitute whose name I've unfortunately forgotten.[/spoiler] Or, barring that, a bit of [spoiler]Jin/Fuu, although later parts of the show seemed to point in the opposite direction.[/spoiler] To be honest, though, any pairing involving the main characters would be fine by me (including a threesome!). Jin/Fuu, Mugen/Fuu, Jin/Mugen (I read an awesome doujin about the latter the other day)... it's all good.

3. No, but it was significantly less [spoiler]painful.[/spoiler]

4. Nothing really, although some of the stuff that [spoiler]Jin and Mugen survived[/spoiler] was a bit too incredible.

5. [spoiler]Definitely Jin.[/spoiler]

6. Spike. He could have carried Cowboy Bebop on his own, and he's certainly the "hero" of the show. But I wouldn't call Mugen the hero of Champloo. The three main characters are balanced fairly equally, and singling out Mugen as the most prominent of them is questionable at best. If anyone deserves top billing, it's probably Fuu, and that doesn't make sense either.

7. If you read the insert for volume 7, there's an interview or something with Shinichiro Watanabe in which he mentioned how glad he was that [spoiler]all of the characters managed to survive. It seems that he was determined to not kill any of them off.[/spoiler] This was his way of defying the traditional principles of [spoiler]Bushido--and of samurai-based entertainment[/spoiler]--which is probably as good a reason as any.

8. Yep... friendship, plus the whole idea of "it's more about the journey than the destination."

~Dagger~

[Guest Kenji Shikawa]

One of my favorite anime's, but can't see it like I used to. Comes on Wednesdays

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[Sojio]

Just started watching Samurai Champloo and its awesome cant wait to see volume two but ive got a question.

What is the Track used in the trailer (the trailer with "it is a time of honour, a time for Hip Hip *cue the scratch*)

[Slade]

[QUOTE=Dagger]Just a note: I added spoiler tags to your post.

1. I enjoyed it. There were some weaker portions (such as the [spoiler]zombie[/spoiler] episode), but when Champloo got good, it was [i]really[/i] good. I can see myself separately revisiting all of the multi-episode stories at some point in the future. That said, I still have discs 5 through 7 sitting in a pile; I'm waiting until I slip into the mood to re-watch the rest of the show.

2. I would have liked to see a follow-up on Mugen and Jin's [spoiler]romantic interests--namely, the ninja lady and the prostitute whose name I've unfortunately forgotten.[/spoiler] Or, barring that, a bit of [spoiler]Jin/Fuu, although later parts of the show seemed to point in the opposite direction.[/spoiler] To be honest, though, any pairing involving the main characters would be fine by me (including a threesome!). Jin/Fuu, Mugen/Fuu, Jin/Mugen (I read an awesome doujin about the latter the other day)... it's all good.

3. No, but it was significantly less [spoiler]painful.[/spoiler]

4. Nothing really, although some of the stuff that [spoiler]Jin and Mugen survived[/spoiler] was a bit too incredible.

5. [spoiler]Definitely Jin.[/spoiler]

6. Spike. He could have carried Cowboy Bebop on his own, and he's certainly the "hero" of the show. But I wouldn't call Mugen the hero of Champloo. The three main characters are balanced fairly equally, and singling out Mugen as the most prominent of them is questionable at best. If anyone deserves top billing, it's probably Fuu, and that doesn't make sense either.

7. If you read the insert for volume 7, there's an interview or something with Shinichiro Watanabe in which he mentioned how glad he was that [spoiler]all of the characters managed to survive. It seems that he was determined to not kill any of them off.[/spoiler] This was his way of defying the traditional principles of [spoiler]Bushido--and of samurai-based entertainment[/spoiler]--which is probably as good a reason as any.

8. Yep... friendship, plus the whole idea of "it's more about the journey than the destination."

~Dagger~[/QUOTE]

I happen to agree with dagger on most of these counts however
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5: it would be Mugen :D ......although in the last episode [spoiler]Jins hair looked awesome[COLOR=Black]when he appeared right in front of the samurai guy to fight him, after he had fallen into the water....letting his hair fall down to his shoulders[/spoiler][/COLOR].

6: I think mugen could have been the main character...but yeah its too hard to say and too hard to single out the rest.....especially Jin....Mugen and Jin form to heads of a coin ;)

Guess our debate of Mugen vs Jin will never end! :D ...I wont allow Jin to win ;)

[Kenshin DX]

I decided to give a second opinion hoping it will help other people. If its to late feel free to delete the post.

1.The series was supreb especially the fight scenes and animation. Some episodes were terrible however but most were nesseciary to advance the plot.

2.I would have liked longer fight scenes and more of them. They were just to brief althoguh the last 3 episodes were more than satsifying.

3.Hands down Bebop. While Champloo had a ok very predictable endiing Bebop was pure brillance.

4.The fight scenes, music, and animation were the highlights.

5.I think given the[spoiler] condition Mugen and Jin were in after the final battle it would have been anyones game[/spoiler].

6 Mugen was a great chacter as welll as Spike. I think Spike was more devloped than Mugen thoguh. They were both great so its hard to choose and lets not forget Jin who was great and had the more intresting past than Mugen or Fu.

7. I had a feeling no chacters would die. Champloo didnt seem like that kind of anime that was really depressing. However given what Mugen and Jin went throguh im amazed they made it.

8.The theme would be friendship. at first Mugen and Jin[spoiler] are at each others but thorats but at the end they no longer feel the need to kill each other[/spoiler]. Mugen and Fu didnt like each other but Mugen [spoiler]threw down his sword to save her[/spoiler]. Jin seemed cold and distant and onley foguht for himself later on he[spoiler] drew his sword to protect fu[/spoiler].So definetly friendship is the theme.

[Guest Stafal-chan]

Yeah i agree with you Ramen_Mido and [spoiler] Fuu saved Mugen when Sara was about to kill him[/spoiler] I'm sad...Samurai Champloo is over[spoiler] i'm upset that they split up...like after all that they just kinda went their seperate ways...[/spoiler]

[Magus]

1. How did you like it overall?
[i][b]Uhh.... what can I say...? As much as I do like samurai animes, I was a little disappointed with this one. I guess it's mainly because of those off stories. Those little filler type that're just there for comedy. There were entirely too many of them. But nevertheless, I still liked it overall.[/i][/b]

2. What do you wish had been added in? For example, more fights, a love scene, a pie eating contest, etc...
[i][b]More fighting. I feel a little jipped mainly because of those episodes that really had nothing to do with the story.[/i][/b]

3. Do you think this ending was better than Cowboy Bebop's?
[b][i]Nope. CB's ending made a big impact on me that almost resulted to tears.... (curls in a corner) Till this day, I still haven't seen an ending that made that type of impact.[/i][/b]

4. If anything, what did you not like about the ending?
[i][b]Nothing. It's just no CB that's all. Ending was still nice though.[/b][/i]

5. Who do you think would have won if the swords hadn't broke: Mugen or Jin or nobody?
[i][b]Err.... still would probably be a stalemate. Except with both of them killing each other. (That's how I was expecting it to end)[/i][/b]

Who was a better hero: Mugen or Spike? Or rather, who do you like better?
[i][b]I don't really consider any of them (Mugen, Jin, Fuu) heroes. IMO they didn't do anything heroic. So with that being said. Spike [/i][/b]

7. Why do you think none of our heroes died? Was this a good thing or a bad thing?
[i][b]*shrugs* I never really give much thought stuff like this. Perhaps their willpower?[/i][/b]

8. To you, what was the main theme of the series or point the series made?
[i][b]Like you and everyone else said. Friendship. If I'm not mistaken it was even said at the end when Jin was talking to Mugen. *shrugs*[/b][/i]

[Dagger]

[QUOTE=Sting]
[i][b]Uhh.... what can I say...? As much as I do like samurai animes, I was a little disappointed with this one. I guess it's mainly because of those off stories. Those little filler type that're just there for comedy. There were entirely too many of them. But nevertheless, I still liked it overall.[/i][/b]

[i]//snip//[/i]

[i][b]More fighting. I feel a little jipped mainly because of those episodes that really had nothing to do with the story.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]
Well, just like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo is an episodic series. It's supposed to be structured like that, and to call the comedy episodes filler is very much a misuse of the term. Imagine saying that Kino's Journey or Case Closed has too much filler. Champloo actually spends more episodes wrapping up its one main plot element than Bebop, if I remember correctly. So you can't really praise one of them and then say that the other has too much "filler."

Now, if you just didn't like the comedy episodes because of the style of humor or whatever, that's another thing altogether. But they aren't filler--and certainly not any more so than the drama episodes.

Interestingly, one of the DVD inserts indicates that Champloo was originally supposed to be a shorter (half-length, I think) series. Because of that, Watanabe had originally planned for it to be mostly crazy and comedic. So in a way, one could say that the light-hearted episodes are the heart/anchor of the show, and not the other way around.

~Dagger~

[Kenshin DX]

Well most episodes served their puporse. For instance the one with[spoiler] the christian group[/spoiler] was awful.But it was a nessecraiy evil because it advanced the plot by giving the main characters background info on the Sunvflower Samurai and where to go next.

Some episodes like the [spoiler] baseball and ninja episode[/spoiler] didnt advance the plot but were very funny so I didnt mind.

Then theres episodes like the Artistc Anarchy and the [spoiler] zombie[/spoiler] that were terrible and didnt advance the plot. They were compltely pointless and could have eaisly been cut.

Some episodes seriously lacked but were important to progress the story. Basically the anime is a journey.So to call them fillers wouldnt be correct.

[Magus]

[quote name='Dagger']Well, just like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo is an episodic series. It's supposed to be structured like that, and to call the comedy episodes filler is very much a misuse of the term. Imagine saying that Kino's Journey or Case Closed has too much filler. Champloo actually spends more episodes wrapping up its one main plot element than Bebop, if I remember correctly. So you can't really praise one of them and then say that the other has too much "filler." [/quote]
Never seen Kino's Journey or Cased Closed ^^ but I hear what you're saying. So I'll take that filler comment back. It's been so long since I've seen Bebop, so.... maybe I am a little mistaken at the moment. But I could've sworn Champloo had more off-stories.... I have to go back and watch Cowboy Bebop.

[quote name='Dagger']Now, if you just didn't like the comedy episodes because of the style of humor or whatever, that's another thing altogether. But they aren't filler--and certainly not any more so than the drama episodes.[/quote]
Nah, I do like them, matter fact I take this style of comedy over any other type of comedy. It just seemed like there were too many episodes focused on comedy moreso than the main plotline.

[quote name='Dagger']Interestingly, one of the DVD inserts indicates that Champloo was originally supposed to be a shorter (half-length, I think) series. Because of that, Watanabe had originally planned for it to be mostly crazy and comedic. So in a way, one could say that the light-hearted episodes are the heart/anchor of the show, and not the other way around. [/quote]
I see. That clears alot up.

[Dagger]

[quote name='Ramen_Mido]... and the [spoiler] zombie[/spoiler'] that were terrible and didnt advance the plot. They were compltely pointless and could have eaisly been cut.[/quote]
Ha, I won't argue with you there. When I buy a DVD, I usually make a point of watching every single episode on it, even if it's a recap, and I end up multi-tasking out of boredom. But I just couldn't bring myself to re-watch episode 22--that is, the one with the [spoiler]zombies.[/spoiler] I thought about it for a while, and the mere act of contemplating it depressed me. So I skipped ahead to the highly entertaining baseball episode and thereafter shelved volume 5 with a clean conscience. :animesmil

~Dagger~

[Sara]

[quote name='Ramen_Mido]Mugen and Fu didnt like each other[/QUOTE][color=#b0000b][size=1]Do you really think so? I think they got along just fine, really--and Fuu certainly liked Mugen. I got the vibe that Mugen treated Fuu like a little sister--he teased her a lot, certainly, and was often annoyed with her, but he didn't dislike her. As for Fuu, she definitely liked both Mugen and Jin a lot. When she has to choose between them, she can't do it (and ends up being a little tricksy so she won't have to give either of them up). [spoiler]"Mugen would go with Sara in a heartbeat, so I'll keep him with me. Jin wouldn't [i]really[/i] leave me, would he? ...So I'll ask [i]him[/i] to go with Sara, and he won't do it."[/spoiler][QUOTE=Stafal-chan]I'm sad...Samurai Champloo is over[spoiler'] i'm upset that they split up...like after all that they just kinda went their seperate ways...[/spoiler][/quote]Aw, don't be sad. :)

I finally watched the last two episodes last night with my friend (he says it's been almost a year since we started the series; that's hard to believe!), and although half of me was dead convinced that [spoiler][i]everyone[/i] would end up dying[/spoiler], I kept trying to convince myself that it wasn't so. And it wasn't! Ha HA!

I think the fact that the three [spoiler]go their seperate ways[/spoiler] in the end is just as symbolic as [spoiler]the swords breaking[/spoiler]. Although they'd [spoiler]split up[/spoiler] before, I'm pretty sure it was only initiated by Mugen or Jin. (Or Sara, heh.) Fuu always fought to keep [spoiler]everyone together[/spoiler]. In the end, though, she is the one who [spoiler]sets off. She's grown up a lot, and she no longer worries about losing Mugen and Jin. They've been through a lot together, and they know that they are friends. They'll see each other again.[/spoiler][/color][/size]

[Kenshin DX]

^^^Well when the show started out no reallly liked each other at all. In Lullabies of the lost verse they even split up Fu told the archer how she couldnt stand either of them. He told her once you travel with someone they become like brothers. This is a huge turning point in the show and makes Fu relizae they are like a family now. This changes drasticlay over the course of the show. The first real act of commitment and friendship is demonstrated with Sara about to [spoiler] kill Mugen. Fu throws herrslf on his body to protect him[/spoiler]. Now at the end of the series Fu gets [spoiler] captured by the freaky eye people she tells them Mugen s the worst and that he would never come for her yet he does and throws down his sword risking his life for her[/spoiler]. Earlier in the show he would have never have done it. so the relationship changes alot over the course of the show. Still maybe dislike was to strong a word maybe not getting along would be better way to describe it.

[Shinjitsu]

[color=dodgerblue]I just finished watching the series last night, and like... *dies* I want more!!! Lol, I actually like how it ends, though. [spoiler]But I was almost certain they were all going to die, I was somewhat surprised and slightly annoyed that they didn't. Not that I wanted them to die, exactly, but it was going a bit OTT wound-wise[/spoiler] All in all, I loved Samurai Champloo. I mean, just the mixture of everything, lol, and the characters (yay Mugen!!)

Oh yeah, last night was the first night they aired it in Australia (on SBS). For those Aussies who didn't watch it but want to watch the rest, the second episode is on next Thursday at 10pm on SBS (you'll just have to get the DVD if you haven't seen the first episode, lol).[/color]

[Up4anime]

When i first saw the preview of this anime i was like no way am i watching this.But i got the first episode and i really like it.I personally like mugen better then Jin.