Cutting

[pbfrontmanvdp]

[QUOTE=Transtic Nerve]I never understood cutting. I cannot figure why anyone, in their right mind, would actually cut themselves. Now I believe everyone has the potential to be smart, but with stuff like cutting, thats just f-ing stupid. I don't care how messed up in the head you are, you should be able to relate "cutting" to "pain" and "pain" to "bad." which is obviously never good, therefor WHY DO IT? It doens't accomplish anything. I've had chronic depression since I was 13, I know what it's like to be depressed, but I went to a therapist, I never cut myself.

You know what you need to do. You need to take her to a therapist, or have her mom do it (whatever) and make sure she friggin stays there. If she can't do that, you should yell at her for being a stupid moron, and then if she still doesn't get it, abandon all hope and HER. Maybe she'll understand how dumb she was then.[/QUOTE]
Transtic I probably would have agreed with you a couple months ago about cutting being stupid, but compared to my brother I kind of understand why people might do it. My brother has ADD and like cutting (trust me on this) its possibly a chemical imbalance. I'm not going to say this is for [u]all[/u] people that so call "cut" themselves, since some do it just to get attention (and I've known a couple of people to do that as well). However, sometimes you just gotta understand that some people do things because they just can't control themselves. My brother constantly gets in trouble and whenever he goes to the psychologist or talks to me in person, he says he doesn't want to do those certain things but he just can't control himself. In ways I feel really sorry for him and other times i don't. We've tried medication and all, but most of them have really bad side effects and the ones that don't have any side effects haven't done the job.

There are numerious ways which could help your friend out...people in this thread have already stated them. However, the only real way that she could stop herself is to realize what she is doing is a waste of time. She should think about how many people [u]would[/u] care if she took her life and how many she would be hurting if she were to do it.

The only thing i know is that your friend is doing it just for both attention and possibly something hidden wrong inside her. If she cuts just for the sake of cutting then i would just stay the hell away from her. If anyone just does it for the sure pleasure of cutting, then I wouldn't know what to do as well. However, if she comes back with having regret and tries to stop cutting several times then thats a hint that she needs more than just therapy to get her through this. I'm not saying I know the answer, but if her parents truly cared for her they shouldn't just "stop" trying to help her but rather work with her to stop her from doing it.

In short....as a friend constantly help her realize whats she is doing is not worth it, that there are alternatives to cutting. I can't really say anything else. Hope this helps.

[TOTALIMMORTAL]

[SIZE=2][FONT=Century Gothic][COLOR=DarkRed]Wow. I don't really know what to say. Thanks everybody. This has been sooo much help. I really appreciate all the advice. I definitely have a much better idea on how I can help her out. I wanted to talk to Ally about it but I didn't get a chance to today. I plan on talking to her tomorrow about it. I'll let you all know how things work out between us and the cutting issue as soon as possible. Hopefully I'll be able to help her better now. Before I go I just want to clarify a few things. First of all, I regret saying that I've thought about cutting. It's true but in a way it's not. I've thought about doing it just to see why Ally would ever wanna do something like that, but then I realize just how stupid it is. I wanna let you all know I'm never gonna cut for the sake of me and Ally. I know if I were to start it would probably make Ally think it's her fault and make her problem even worse. The other thing is that Ally never quit therapy. Her mom made her go when she noticed all her scars, but for some reason took her out of it after a little while. I also know that Ally hates therapy but knows she should probably go. If her problem gets worse then I might talk to her mom about getting her back in therapy if she doesn't herself. Anywayz, if you guys want to know if Ally gets any better just tell me and I'll keep you up to date as soon as things come up. Thanks again! ~later~[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[Guest lavalamp]

Well, I just hope she doesn't cut her food with the same knife she cuts herself with. That would be very gross. I think a lot of people mess with their cat and then after getting attacked say they're "cutters" to look like something that they're obviously not.

I mean, I'm a cutter. I cut everything from cardboard boxes to hair. I think I need a therapist.

[Guest cloricus]

[quote name='lava lamp']Well, I just hope she doesn't cut her food with the same knife she cuts herself with.[/quote]Most people use blades of some description. (Kitchen knifes have a bad habit of slipping and doing all sorts of not nice things.)

[quote]I think a lot of people mess with their cat and then after getting attacked say they're "cutters" to look like something that they're obviously not.[/quote]There are always immature people.

[quote]I mean, I'm a cutter. I cut everything from cardboard boxes to hair. I think I need a therapist.[/QUOTE]A 'cutter' is the more generic name for a sub set of si. It is a topic specific use of the word. So yes you are a cutter but not in the way it is being used in this thread.

[vegeta rocker]

There is really not much that you can do besides just heck her all the time. They say they stop but they really don't i should know.

It will take a bit at a time but when she realizes that you won't let her cut herself, she might let up. Get mean if you have to. Its for her own good.

And to Cloricus, i really think you need t think about the impact your words can have.

[TOTALIMMORTAL]

[FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkRed] :) I've been talking to Ally alot lately and I've been able to help her realize just how much her cutting is hurting her and those around her. She told me she's absolutely positively definitely given up cutting for real this time. I really think she's serious. I think it's been about a week since she has done it so things are going good. She's going to go back to the therapist a little more over the summer real soon. I think she has really given it up. Thanx to everybody and anybody at all who posted on this thread and gave me advice. I guess that's the end of this thread since it's been a complete success. Thanks again everybody. ~Later~[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[Xyandar]

Trying to stop someone from doing somethin just makes them more annoyed because they get tired of hearin that they shouldnt do it.. really, its up to them. I tell people who wanna commit suicide to go ahead. but then i tell them what they are going to miss out on and who is going to miss them when they are gone. that usually gets them thinkin.

[Guest Drizzt]

[COLOR=DarkSlateGray]Even though it's the end of the thread I'd like to congradulate her for quiting. Once you get started it's hard to quit like any addiction.

[center][SIZE=5]~CONGRADULATIONS~ [/SIZE][/center][/COLOR]

[Xander Harris]

I'm glad she's back in therapy... glad we could help you out in some small way, too.