cinnamon Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Well, as you can see, I'm not that skilled with Photoshop, but I really wanted to try coloring at least something in it. And here it is. [IMG]http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421506557/0.jpg[/IMG] Hopefully that works, but if not, here's the link:[URL=http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421506557/0.jpg]Clicksies[/URL] Nothing amazing, no background...but oh well. I tried. It's my first fully colored picture using photoshop. Hopefully that explains alot. But the main reason I'm here is not to embarrass myself, but to get some suggestions from all you photoshop literate people out there as to what I'm doing right, and what I'm doing wrong. I don't care how specific you have to be, just say something!!! *laughs* Okay people, critisise away. I'm not so worried about the picture (which is mine, by the way) but about the coloring. Thanks!!! :D Cinnamon By the way, there's a muck-up on the shading/lightspots somewhere...If you can spot it(you'll know them when you find them, it's quite specific) I'll give you a bar of virtual chocolate! ;)[/COLOR] Edit: I'm not sure if the link was correct...the picture doesn't seem to be there. Oops...Wait and I'll try fix it. Edit 2: Problem solved. And all I had to do was open a new account!!! Doesn't matter- I needed to anyway!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScirosDarkblade Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 There's no light source evident. I think that you'll do fine with Photoshop/Corel/Fireworks/whatever once you have a good grasp on coloring/shading "theory" in general. So for now I'm just going to give one pointer: when you color a picture, pick a general direction for a light source, and color the parts the light would hit lighter and the parts it wouldn't darker. But probaby stay away from black for now (misuse of black for shadow can really ruin a pic), but use darker versions of the surface colors for shadow. Photoshop actually has some cool filter effects that can help "tweak" lights and shadows (there's actually a "light source" filter under the "render" submenu) but that can [i]really[/i] destroy a picture if not used perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinnamon Posted May 23, 2004 Author Share Posted May 23, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]You have a point. Thankyou very much Sciros. I was too scared to touch the filters for this pic, I honestly had no idea what does what. I still don't now, but I think I'll go experimenting soon to see if I can do a better job. It really is bright, isn't it? Oh well. Have a virtual chocolate bar anyway, for giving me advice! :) Thanks again...anyone else with suggestions/comments? Go for it! Cinnamon[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adora Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 A few questions: Did you colour on a seperate layers to the lines? (I can't tell from the JPG optimisation). Did you scan the picture in and then colour it, or draw it totally digitally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinnamon Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Yes, and I scanned it in. Not a wonderful picture, but the lines were clean ;) I was never very good with lines...:) Cinnamon[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adora Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Okay, and did you set the line-layer to multiply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinnamon Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Hmmmm...If I did, I don't remember doing it!!! Probably not. I wasn't quite sure what I was doing at the time, just following tips from a couple of tutorials I've read along the way. Cinnamon[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShinje Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 I think that you have used multiply in the layers for the picture Cinnamon, this is when you can colour on a layer and let the lines of the picture show through. It's available under the drop down menu "layer options" in the layers menu. Adora, I do believe oyu meant set the colouring layer to multiply, otherwise I'm doing it wrong, lol. Sciros had a very good ppoint about the light source, I myself am still rying to render my colourings to a light source, it can be a hard thing to tweak sometimes. Did you use the dodge and burn tools for the shading/highlighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adora Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Sorry to say, you're doing it wrong. When you scan it, the first thing you do, in Photoshop, is (after cleaning and resizing, obviously) duplicate the background layer. Once you have a duplicate, delete the old locked background layer. Now you take the new layer, set it to multiply, and then just work on all your colouring layers beneath that. It's much easier, and if you want to do highlights over the top of the line layer, you just make a new layer over the top of it and work on that. Making the colouring layers are limiting though. You can only work on one layer, and if you do make any others above/below it, you have to set them to multiply too, and you can't be lazy with colouring in the lines (which is crappy for someone as sloppy as me). It's easier to just do it with the line layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 [color=firebrick] Well, first of all, Photoshop isn't the best way to go with coloring. Whether you actually bought it or got it 'other' means, Corel Painter 8 is a whole lot better. And it's only $300 to boot...you can get it as low as $130 with this online deal. But enough of that, I guess it's pointless to argue that point now. >_>. Hey, considering that this is a first timer, it's pretty good. ^_^ Be proud of yourself. First of all, do what Adora posted. Even though I don't like Photoshop much, PS is the best workhorse for lineart and cleaning up anything. I don't know if you used layers of not, but if you didn't, you should. Layers just makes the whole process a bunch easier, and it has this nice thing where you can lock them and nothing will happen to those layers when you mess up and go over them with whatever tool you're using to color. Well, I think about everyone adores the tutorials at Polykarbon. [URL=http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/html/channels2.html]CGing via airbrush-style[/URL] *shrugs* Doesn't really matter. There are tons of photoshop CGing tutorials if you search google. I guess you're going for the airbrush style, which is harder than cel-shading. By which it means it just takes longer, lol. Well, you can use the airbrush style to imitate cel-shading. [URL=http://www.deviantart.com/view/5331370/]Like this.[/URL] Most people use the Lasso Tool on photoshop to make cel-shades. All you do it draw the places where you want the shading to be with the tool, and then use the brush tool to shade it in. Quite simple, really. What you need to have is a good understanding of where shadows should go etc. But anyways, a lot of other people use that way to do airbrushing, too. They just use the smudge tool after they shade everything. BUT, airbrushing is a great way to go as well. [URL=http://www.deviantart.com/view/4738821/]Here's an example.[/URL] That picture was made with another art program that specifies on smoothness, I'm just trying to show that airbrushing is good. >_> I guess I went a bit overboard, lol. Anyways, nice job. I hope I see more stuff. ^_^[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinnamon Posted May 29, 2004 Author Share Posted May 29, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Thanks guys, I think Im starting to get the hang of it. I suppose I'll get better with a bit of practice. At least I know what i'm supposed to be doing now =^.^= Where would we be without critics? :P Thanks again! Cinnamon[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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