Shwa Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Hey Otaku people, I need some advice for my problem...can you help me out? Here's my problem: About at the end of school year last year I told my friends that I was Gay, they didn't take it so badly and that was a really shock to me. I've been like this since the 6th grade but havn't told anyone about it. When I met my friends at John Carroll freshman year I knew I could trust them with my secret. So anywho, I've been telling a lot of people I know that I can trust and their all fine with it, but the problem is my parents. I've kept this secret from them for the longest and I'm afraid its gonna get out to them one way or another. My step-dad is a super homophobe and my mother is a bit crazy. I'm hispanic and she believes that all of them should be straight and have a wife someday. So anyways the topic came up last night about when I go to Prom when I'm a senior and I told her I didn't want to go: 1- I'm Gay 2- Most of the girls at my school are slutty or really...not I'll stick with slutty (I know all girls aren't like tthat, I'm not trying to offend anyone at all) 3- I just dont want to go to prom! So anyways we had this big talk about it and she asked me if I was gonna get a girlfriend soon, I thought it would be a say no and it'll be over like that. But then she continued to ask me why and I repeated I dont want one. So then she pops the question: "Are you going to bring a boyfriend to the prom?" I was stunned I couldn't think of a thing to say to her. She gave me the motherly look of anger, worry, and confusion all at once. So when I finally decided to say something, I just said: "What did you ask me....I'm sorry I couldn't hear you" I was busted for sure...then her tone of voice got a bit sour and she just dropped the subject. So I kissed her goodnight and went to bed. So basically thats it, I dont know how long I can hide this secret from them. I'm going to be a junior next year and thats when I'll tell my whole school if they ask without and doubt. But I'm a bit nervious about telling my parents 'cause, their a bit crazy and might not look at me the same way again. I mean I've spent 5 years working with the Boys and Girls Club, get good grades and have good friends, but I dont think thats enoght to help me out here. I'm not going to have sex until the age of 18 (set that for myself), If I have a boyfriend then I'll introduce him to my parents when the time is right, plus I wont let him get in the way of my school work or my personal life too much. Also...I'll reassure my parents I wont dress up like a woman or wear any make-up at all. So thats my problem, can you guys lend me some advice please? ~Waiting.... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukeshi Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Okay dude... I know it'll be hard to break this kind of news to your parents, whether you think that they'll react badly or they'll be dissapointed or whatever. But in my experience, though I know that it some situations it may not be true, they only want what is best for you and what makes you happy. If you have loving and understanding parents then they will just have to deal with the fact that you are gay. The fact that your mother asked you such a question probably means that she suspects and does not fear the answer. She will probably be slightly uncomfortable for a short period of time but if she loves you she will work to help and understand you. That's my two cents...go for it kid ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Try being un-gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='wrist cutter']Try being un-gay.[/quote] Sorry, wrist cutter, but he can't. Oh, boy... maybe she was being sarcastic about it. 'If you aren't bringing a girl, you must be brigning a boy' type of thing. I like doukeshi's answer, though. Go for it. And if they have a problem with it... comprimise. As best you can. Good luck, love! Truely yours, Skye (BTW, I'm Bi.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midnight Rush Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Dude be like that guy from Seinfeld. Take a chick to the prom or have a "girlfriend" and mom will be happy. Doesn't matter if your interested or not, it will keep parents at bay and they will never have to know. Wrist Cutter is totally right here, put on an act... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onix Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]Dude, wrist cutter, Undefeated, you're both being major a-holes right now. You can't tell someone to be ungay or act straight. Listen, Mage15, I don't claim to be the most openminded or tolerant person, but if I had a son/daughter, and they were gay/lesiban/bi or whatever, I'd be for them. And if I was that way, I'd be who I was. Don't try to be straight, don't put on a front, 'cause it just makes it more awkward when the truth comes out. Tell your parents, and to hell with them if they can't accept it. -ULX[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midnight Rush Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 At least wait until your parents are done paying for your college... sexual orientation isn't half as important as career/cash. ULX... you can't ignore the practicality of pretending to have a GF... Everyone acts at times... and IMHO its his turn to wear a mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onix Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]You are correct, Undefeated, that it is, in a sense, practical to pretend to be straight. However, I find it a stupid thing to do and, as I said earlier, it only sets up the parents for a farther fall when the truth comes out. They'll think, "oh, he has a girlfriend, so no worries!" and then they find out and it's, "but you had a girlfriend! How can you say you're gay? You lied to us? etc." It's just a really bad idea. And you got the idea from a Sitcom, anyway, which is no basis for real-world interaction. And what do you mean, "everyone acts at times?" True, lies are told and true, we generally try to conform ourselves to social standards, but this is far more major than dieting or hair-color. You can't act a different sexual preference than you are, at least not for long. And money's more important than self-respect? Damn, that's a truly disgusting thing to admit. I mean, it is a harsh reality of society, but you can't give that as advice. It goes against everything we're told as children. As I said, damn them if they can't accept it. But I doubt they would be so god damn closeminded to keep their son from getting a good education and a good job just because he's different than the social standard. That's extremely f---ed up if it's the case. Oh, and I'm more angry at Wrist Cutter than you. Why? Because he wasn't saying act straight. He was saying BE straight, which you just cannot do. wrist cutter, I have no respect for you, and this is the first time I think I've had interaction with you. Your kind makes me sick. Well, that's off my chest. I'm through ranting. -ULX[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [color=#707875]Pretending to be straight is entirely up to you. I mean, obviously a lot of kids do that for a while because they feel that everyone will hate them if the know they're gay. I think that it really comes down to you and your relationship with your parents. If you feel that they can't handle it, maybe you should try to avoid it for as long as you can...'till you're a bit more independent. Otherwise, I don't know. I certainly am hesitant to just tell you to pretend to be something you're not...because obviously nobody wants to do that in a situation like yours. I wish I could give you better advice, but it's really hard to know without knowing what your parents are like and such. All I can do is wish you luck. ^_^ Oh and...just so you know, I believe wrist cutter was being sarcastic. He's smarter than he's led you to believe there. ~_^[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [color=darkviolet]I don't really know what to do in a situation such as this one. I think the best advice I could give is try to talk to your parents about it and explain that you're still the same person, just with different veiws than they have. That's the best I can do for you. I don't know what your community's like though. If it's like the one I lived in in Texas then I'd seriously get one of your girl friends to pretend to be your girlfriend, but if you live in a more liberal or densely populated area where people have been exposed to things like homosexuality then maybe you can get by being who you are. I think though in the long run, instead of trying out my advice, I'd try James' first or who ever you think gave the best advice. I wish you the best of luck in where ever the situation takes you.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='wrist cutter']Try being un-gay.[/quote] Your genius is often unappreciated here, it seems. I'd just tell them. Your sexual preference is of no real consequence to them as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmystic_silverx Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='wrist cutter']Try being un-gay.[/quote] [color=teal]It's usually not as easy as you say. Hopefully you were being sarcastic like James said. All the other suggestions were good but I think that you should just tell your parents. They [I]should[/I] understand that it's your choice. They might not like it, but they love you, so they will learn to live with it. Usually mothers will take things better than fathers. I don't know why. I guess they are closer to their children. So maybe if you tell her, she could tell your dad and convience him that its not that bad. I'm sorry, thats all I have for advice.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shippou Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Do you want your parents to think your someone else? your parents probably will treat you different but that is because you are different from what they think you are. far be it for me to tell you what to think but shouldn't you want your parents to treat you for who you are? but that is just my opinion. my advice, go for it kid. Shippou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onix Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 wrist cutter, I apologize if you were, in fact, being sarcastic. Sarcasm is a mainly verbal art and rarely transfers over through text. Intonation is something that's missing in e-mail and other text communications, a fact many people have yet to learn, even myself at times. I stand by my previous statements, and still feel that people who think gay/lesbian/bi people can just go up and change are idiots. Again, I apologize if you were being sarcastic, but I do not if you weren't. -ULX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Samedi Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 [size=1][color=darkred]Of course he's being sarcastic, geez. As for telling your folks... it depends how well you know them. Are your doubts based on anything solid? If they are, wait. Don't go to Prom, or go alone. Who says you need to tell them right now? If you are so worried about it, I doubt that you'll let it 'slip out'. Just be how you are. Not everybody is overly a perv/talks about girls all the time. You don't have to do anything about it, right now. Do you?[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box Hoy Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Like Doukeshi03 said man. If your parents love you they'll understand okay. But I do see why it's so hard to reveal it. What I think you should do is be cautious k. If your step dad gets all hypopsycho on you than go all hypopsycho right back at him man. The one great show to learn many things from in these sort of issues is King of the Hill. If you've never seen it watch it. You can catch it on FOX. But your parents love you okay. Even your step-parents and some times that's entirly what you don't want but that's a whole different subject. So here's my advice. If you're reading this now. Don't take a deep breath cuzz that's what messes you up. Stand up. Walk to wherever your parents are. This'll be the hardest part because you can turn around at any time from here until there. So don't concentrate on telling them while you walk. When you get there get their attention and tell them just straight up. You know how much stress and stuff will be off your shoulders. And then if they reacte negativly block it all out and just thnk of video games and stuff like that so you cant hear the negativity. So there you have it. But you have to do it now okay. NOW. Get it done with. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukeshi Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [QUOTE=Semjaza Azazel]Your genius is often unappreciated here, it seems. I'd just tell them. Your sexual preference is of no real consequence to them as it is.[/QUOTE] It doesn't take a genius to be sarcastic, and quite frankly such a pointless unhelpful post by anyone other than wrist cutter would not be tolerated on this board. I'm surprised at you for condoning it sem. As for the whole mask wearing, pretending to be straight thing, it only leads to a whole load of bottled up emotions, resentment and eventual pain for everyone concerned. Your parents may not want to hear the truth, but that's just what it is, the truth. It's something you can't escape and quite frankly, they're going to have to face it sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haruka-san Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ahhh hello, nice to meet you.... now I am afraid to post simply because of the hello fiasco. But anyhow I feel that this is a serious question, and it warrents a response. Judging from the way youre post is written.... it looks like your mom already knows. This truely is not something you can hide from parents. You live with them, and spent most of your lifetime with them. She must know, but it sounds like she is waiting for you to fess up. She will be hurt I am sure, and there may be many tears from both of you. She is your mother after all, and she may not accept your sexual preferance, but if she really loves you (i am sure she must) she will accept you the way you are. This is a hard time in your life right now... High school, dating, discovering feelings, becoming an adult... and if you play your cards right, and be calm and approach things by looking at both sides, you should do fine. Let me say it wont be a bed of roses, it will be a bed of roses with sharp thorns, so stick to your guns and be real to yourself...... And for the record, there is nothing wrong with being gay or homosexual so to speak, so dont try to change for others.... I could tell you a funny story there.... If you like! about my ex-boyfriend, who was dating me to become straight...... he called me one night and said that he wanted to break up with me.... and I said "what? are you gay or something?" he said "how did you know?" I laughed it off, and said "I had a feeling" we remained friends... I wonder what happened to him? ah well such is the way of life. take care pal -Haruka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adempton Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Considering this thread was from like a week ago, has anything been solved for you? What happened, if anything? But anyway most of you have been giving some extremely good advice. Advice that I didn't take, and perhaps should have, back in the day when I was in the same situation. I moved out when I was 17, and my parents never knew about me being gay. Obviously there was speculation on my mom's behalf, but when I live on my own over an hour away, having my own life, and all of a sudden my clueless mother (who I obviously love very much) says something in regard to me having a wife and giving her a grandchild, etc etc, it?s quite painful. I always say things like "I'm too busy with my career" or "I don't like children" or something like that, but that's not the real excuse. Now that I'm older (19) and whatnot it'll be a lot easier to tell them for certain, especially since I don't have to live there. But it's still hard... I still have it on my mind to do it "soon." However, there were major benefits to me not coming out to my parents while I was living with them and in grade-school. For one thing, my dad is a completely illogical homophobic drunk, who actually threatened to kill one of my friends who had a lisp. (Yeah, he was gay, but he didn't even know that for sure.) He had also said things to me before such as "Are you !@#$! gay?!" etc. So things like that sort of made the decision for me. To wait, and not tell anyone until I moved to the city, over an hour away from them. Telling your parents will relieve an [I]amazing [/I] amount of stress. But if it's really apparent that it'd make your life hell, don't do it. Not to discourage you or anything. My dad "loves" me, but that wouldn't stop him from trying to kill me if he found out while I was living there. If you can get away with it, (if your dad is a psycho like mine) tell your mother in hopes she won't spill the beans to your dad. I know that sort of only solves half the problem, but she sounds like she'd be at least moderately supportive, and that might be enough to get you through it until you can hold your own a little more. That might be a good place to start. So, that's my opinion. Good luck / I hope things went well for you! ^_^ ~adempton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midnight Rush Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [QUOTE=Unborn Lord Xion][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]You are correct, Undefeated, that it is, in a sense, practical to pretend to be straight. However, I find it a stupid thing to do and, as I said earlier, it only sets up the parents for a farther fall when the truth comes out. They'll think, "oh, he has a girlfriend, so no worries!" and then they find out and it's, "but you had a girlfriend! How can you say you're gay? You lied to us? etc." It's just a really bad idea. And you got the idea from a Sitcom, anyway, which is no basis for real-world interaction. And what do you mean, "everyone acts at times?" True, lies are told and true, we generally try to conform ourselves to social standards, but this is far more major than dieting or hair-color. You can't act a different sexual preference than you are, at least not for long. And money's more important than self-respect? Damn, that's a truly disgusting thing to admit. I mean, it is a harsh reality of society, but you can't give that as advice. It goes against everything we're told as children. As I said, damn them if they can't accept it. But I doubt they would be so god damn closeminded to keep their son from getting a good education and a good job just because he's different than the social standard. That's extremely f---ed up if it's the case. Oh, and I'm more angry at Wrist Cutter than you. Why? Because he wasn't saying act straight. He was saying BE straight, which you just cannot do. wrist cutter, I have no respect for you, and this is the first time I think I've had interaction with you. Your kind makes me sick. Well, that's off my chest. I'm through ranting. -ULX[/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE] Get off of your high-horse and look reality in the eyes. lmao... sorry it took me so long to bite back ULX, but I've been busy. Of course money is more important than self respect. What the **** does all the self respect in the world do for you if you are starving? Jobless? Unsheltered? Naked (lack of clothing)? Although I am not suggesting that money is more important than morality, and the cause never justifies the means. You gotta start somewhere... you cannot make your stand on sinking sand. (By the way, we are taught as children that men do women and women do men. There are no other legitimate options..) If I was a parent and my son told me he was gay, I would be fine with it. But he sure as hell wouldn't get another penny from me. I'd invite him to move out on his 18th birthday, and ask that he never contact me again. I'd never stop loving my son, but I could not in any way justify to myself supporting a bad choice (or even, if you think it isn't a choice, bad genes). But I digress, as far as the acting goes, if he doesn't respect his parents code of morality, then why would he mind setting them up for a bigger fall later? Sorry to tell you, but this is a dog eat dog world. How would they be closeminded? Let me ask you some questions: Do you believe the sacrificing of virgins is evil? (or any human sacrifice) I would bet you millions of dollars you'd say yes. AND YOU ARE BEING CLOSEMINDED! Do you believe the practice of foot-binding is a bad thing? Again I'd submit to you that you would Are you being closeminded then? Are you closeminded when you refuse to play Russian Roulette? If you can be physically "closeminded", how would you dare to presume that his parents haven't the right to be morally "closeminded"? This is disgusting beyond belief. A perception of truth doesn't change anything. Without absolutes, the world cannot exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 [color=darkviolet]I have about an hour to kill before my husband gets online assuming he's back from the [color=green]Green Zone[/color] today. That said I really want to reply to Undeafeated here since I have a bit of an issue with what he said.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']Of course money is more important than self respect. What the **** does all the self respect in the world do for you if you are starving? Jobless? Unsheltered? Naked (lack of clothing)? Although I am not suggesting that money is more important than morality, and the cause never justifies the means. You gotta start somewhere... you cannot make your stand on sinking sand.[/quote] [color=darkviolet]I hope you're joking when you suggest that it's more important to have pleanty of money but not an ounce of integrity than to have no money, but your diginity in tact. Because what does your money mean when you have no friends do to your lack of self respect and trying to be someone you're not? Oh and I love the way you contradicted yourself at the end by saying that you weren't saying that money was more important than morality.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated'](By the way, we are taught as children that men do women and women do men. There are no other legitimate options..)[/quote] [color=darkviolet]Well, true that was how the majority of us may have been taught as children that it took a man and a woman to make a baby. But that just means we're in the majority. I also know of people who were raised by same sex couples and grew up to lead normal lives. That said, I know some pretty screwed up children raised by heterosexual couples, what do you say to that? Saying that there are no other legitimate options for love or sex (because at times the two can be quite interchangeable) is like saying that the reason two people get married is to produce children and there are no other legitimate options. Would you have a man and a woman getting married to then have to promise to reproduce? And if they wouldn't or couldn't would you say that the marriage would be considered invalid?[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']If I was a parent and my son told me he was gay, I would be fine with it. But he sure as hell wouldn't get another penny from me. I'd invite him to move out on his 18th birthday, and ask that he never contact me again. I'd never stop loving my son, but I could not in any way justify to myself supporting a bad choice (or even, if you think it isn't a choice, bad genes).[/quote] [color=darkviolet]I pity your children. How can you say you would be fine with his choice then refuse to speak to your child and force him to move out of the house? You can't honestly say that would be fine with you if you were ready to cut all ties with your family. In my opinion I think that it's pretty stupid to call homosexuality a choice. Who the hell in their right mind would want to chose to be part of a group which faces so much ridicule? As an expectant parent, if my daughter came to me about 16 years down the road and told me she thinks she may be a lesbian I'd probably look at her say, 'Make sure to bring your girlfriend over for dinner and tell her to clean her room. I don't consider myself supporting a 'bad choice'. I consider this supporting my child.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']But I digress, as far as the acting goes, if he doesn't respect his parents code of morality, then why would he mind setting them up for a bigger fall later? Sorry to tell you, but this is a dog eat dog world.[/quote] [color=darkviolet]I'm not sure how to reply to this except to say that some parents have a pretty screwed up idea of morality. I'm not talking about my beliefs as a parent. Although I'm sure a few of you may say I have weak morals or none at all, but some parents beat the crap out of their children and say that it's in the Bible. My grandmother thought it was her moral duty to give her children a diluted dose of medication for spinal menigitis. Should her children have gone along with that?[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']Do you believe the sacrificing of virgins is evil? (or any human sacrifice)[/quote] [color=darkviolet]This question is oh-so relevent because we know that all people with homosexual tendancies along with those who are open to those with homosexual tendancies go out and sacrifice virgins on a regular bsais. But I guess I should point out that some early cultures sacrificed virgins to dieties to help crops grow and such. They saw what they were doing as a religious practice, not as evil.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']I would bet you millions of dollars you'd say yes. AND YOU ARE BEING CLOSEMINDED![/quote] [color=darkviolet]Actually, I had to point out about tribal religions since you may not have been fortunate enough to study anything about anthropology. By the way, that sentance was badly worded[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']Do you believe the practice of foot-binding is a bad thing?[/quote] [color=darkviolet]Again we're talking about something done by another culture whose practice has since faded from use. If you want to try relevence to today's issues, I'd suggest bringing up genital mutilation. It's current and I find that practice rather archaic. Yet, it's part of a culture.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']Are you closeminded when you refuse to play Russian Roulette?[/quote] [color=darkviolet]Actually I'd consider myself being a sane minded individual not to play Russian Roulette.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']If you can be physically "closeminded", how would you dare to presume that his parents haven't the right to be morally "closeminded"?[/quote] [color=darkviolet]The virgin sacrifices and foot binding were parts of people's culture I don't know how to argue that without you saying that maybe homosexuality will be eliminated as these practices were but I'll give it a go. People were integrated into different societies and cultures over time and that's how these practices were eliminated. I don't think you can ever be able to say teh same about a person's sexual orientation.[/color] [quote name='Undefeated']A perception of truth doesn't change anything. Without absolutes, the world cannot exist![/quote] [color=darkviolet]I'm going to pretend that you made some sense up there and reply. If you have a perception of the truth based on facts, that can change heresy to become absolute undisputed truth . And as I've said to you on prior replies, I hope some day you cease to be shallow brained and join the rest of us in the thinking world. Seriously sometimes I think high school rots your brain. [quote name='Undefeated']Get off of your high-horse and look reality in the eyes.[/quote] [colordarkviolet]I would suggest that you take some of your own advice and do the same. Not bad for being well past midnight eh?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 Hmmmm... Maybe I should've added this to my response: "Try being un-gay. [i]Worked for me.[/i]" I'm gay too, I know about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted June 20, 2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 I'm very greatful for all of you who have taken the timeto reply to my post, also the advice you all have given me. I'm sorry I havn't been able to reply but I was pre-occupied with Finals before school got out. Anywas it seems like a lot of people have different solutions to my problem and I'm happy for that. But given my cirumstance I dont think I will tell her right away, my plan is to tell her when schools startes out again and when I'm a Junior at that time. I plan to tell the whole school if they ask and that'll be the time I'll tell my parents. I think it is reasonable timing for both to know finally, but that is my stand on that. I'm also glad to hear that the fuding between some of the posters is over, sometimes it is very hard to sence sarcasm when it is stated in a post. Anywways, no gay person can act straightin my point of view....its like the Tell Tale Heart by Edger Allen Poe. The main character was driven by guilt to tell where he hid the body of the old man. As for a gay person, they might bedriven to tell their secret even if they are not under pressure, or vice versa when dating or acting straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Please. You have two options here. 1) Be a manly gay person. 2) Be a ***** like Greg in that stupid-*** show. Who the Hell cares what your parents think? I sure don't, and you shouldn't. Respect them, but you don't have to listen. I won't say anything about the ideals of "You're gay from birth and it's not a choice", but instead tell you that what others think just don't matter. You can hear what they have to say, but you don't have to listen. It's up to you to decide who you are and how you are who you are. If you want to tell everyone you are gay next year, then go ahead. Tell them. Just be who you feel you are. That's all that matters. P.S. to all of you wrist cutter haters: You're just jealous you don't have as much wit. EDIT: Undefeated, stop trying to sound smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onix Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Four things to say right now. #1. I refuse to dignify Undefeated with a response. #2. wrist cutter, I again apologize. #3. ChibiHorsewoman, thank you for bitching at Undefeated and saving me the words. If you weren't married I'd propose (joking!) #4. Chaos, I only hated wrist cutter because I didn't realize he was being sarcastic. As I said, sarcasm doesn't translate over well into text. -ULX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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