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Is it really true that girls bleed when they first do it? I've heard of "popping the cherry" but do they really bleed while they're doin it? I'll be honest with you people, I've got no problem saying I plan on having sex with my girlfriend pretty soon. Some people think we're too young but we're both mature and ready for it, and we really love each other. I just wanna know what to expect, I don't wanna hurt her if she does bleed alot or sumthin. Well, I'm sure none of you wanna hear this so I'll shut up.....
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[quote name='TOTALIMMORTAL']Some people think we're too young but we're both mature and ready for it, and we really love each other[/quote]

You're 14



Those two facts are practically mutually exclusive.

Maturity, believe it or not, is probably not what you think it is. It's not a point which you get to where suddenly you're ready to take on more things which adults do- it's [i]also[/i] knowing when you're clearly [i]not ready[/i] for those things- and that aspect seems to be the one you're lacking.

As for why you're not ready, there are numerous reasons. Financially, you're not ready- in that what if it doesn't go according to plan and she becomes pregnant? you most certainly don't have the means to financially provide right now.
Emotionally you're no-where near ready. You may think you are now, but in a few years time you'll know otherwise. Unless you see sex as a non-commitment thing.

I could probably go into way more detail- but that'd ultimately be needless.

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh- I just seriously believe that a lot of people your age have themselves fooled about their maturity.

(edit: Err... sorry to sway a little away from the topic- not quite sure if I'm officially "off-topic" yet :S)
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[color=firebrick] Tampons [b]suck![/b]. Last time I tried using one I hobbled around my room for about an hour. *roar*

>_> Maybe I'll try using them again in about fifty years. Pads are just fine, thank you. O_o. [/color]

[i]The lads seriously get it easy, I mean... we always get the annoying stuff and the hard work, and I bet you there are more men in history than women. It's probably correct when you all say the worst thing for them is getting kicking in the nuts, but if it's a really nice person who's like one of those complete good guys (or just nice) and never get kicked in the legs then they have it too easy.[/i]

[color=firebrick]Yes. Yes yes yes. I'd like to see a guy try and deal with having a period. They'd probably flip out and go crazy or something. *giggles* That would be amusing.

Anywho, I learned about sex and the whole shabang in fifth grade, and I ended up talking about it a lot at camp for some reason. *shrugs* I see no problem with discussing this sort of stuff. [/color]
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[quote name='TOTALIMMORTAL']I'll be honest with you people, I've got no problem saying I plan on having sex with my girlfriend pretty soon. Some people think we're too young but we're both mature and ready for it, and we really love each other.[/quote]
[color=#9933ff]I'm not going to waste my time telling you to wait (besides, I think Dan rather did a good job with getting the massage across), because it's really your decision. But I'll be practical. Just don't be stupid. Always, always, always use protection - latex condom (and if you don't know how to use one it means you're not ready). And whatever you do, use that noggin' of yours, and some common sense.

But that's really off topic (sorry, I did want to say that, though). This, I hope, is a little more topic-ishy:[/color]

[quote name='TOTALIMMORTAL']Is it really true that girls bleed when they first do it? I've heard of "popping the cherry" but do they really bleed while they're doin it?[/quote]
[color=#9933ff]Yes, it's only the first time when a girl has sex. It's not like a ton of blood, it's just a little bit. And sometimes it's so small, it's really not noticeable. I'd get technical, but nobody wants to hear that. Don't worry about it.


Oh, I also wanted to say something else about those biodegradable tampons: no matter what they say, [b]don't[/b] flush them down the toilet. Trust me, they're not biodegradable. ¬___¬ (not that I've done that - someone I know did it.)[/color]
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[QUOTE=TOTALIMMORTAL]I'll be honest with you people, I've got no problem saying I plan on having sex with my girlfriend pretty soon. Some people think we're too young but we're both mature and ready for it, and we really love each other. I just wanna know what to expect,[QUOTE]

[color=darkviolet]Before you go and have sex here are some things you should ask yourself:

[b]1.)[/b] Are you atleast three quarters of the way willing to be with this person for the rest of your natural life?

[b]2.)[/b] Are you financially ready to raise a child or three ?(hey, if the egg splits in 3 you have to raise three kids simple as that)

[b]3.)[/b] Would you be emotionally distraught if this person decided to break it off with you?

If you can't answer yes to all 3 of these questions, you really have no right to have sex. Of course, that never stopped quite a few people so maybe I just wasted some of my time saying that.

Consider this then: what if after you sleep with her a few times you decide to break it off with her. Would you be totally okay with her getting high on some angel dust then screaming outside your bedroom window at 2 in the morning? Because I know a guy that happened to. It wasn't pretty from what I heard.

Sex (unless your one of those people with the ability to just be bed buddies) does carry some very heavy emotional baggae with it. And of course, there's the whole baby thing. Come to think of it...my birth mother was just a year older than you when she had me. Do you [i]still[/i] want to go through with it?[/color]

[quote name='TOTALIMMORTAL']Is it really true that girls bleed when they first do it? I've heard of "popping the cherry" but do they really bleed while they're doin it?[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]It's what I've heard, and as far as I know it's true that tehre's a little bit of blood after the deed is done. Nothing a little bit of Shout won't get out, but nothing to faint over. Actually, I've heard that some women don't bleed at all. But try telling that to some of these doctors in some countries that actually try to turn a lady back into a virgin before her wedding night.[/color]

[quote name='TOTALIMMORTAL'] I don't wanna hurt her if she does bleed alot or sumthin. Well, I'm sure none of you wanna hear this so I'll shut up.....[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]There's no getting around it. The first and the second time hurt. THere's nothing you can do short of buying some KY Jelly to make it a bit less painful. Trust me on this. But then again...since you'll be using a [b]condom[/b] when this happens (CHW is a big supporter of Birth Control and condoms) you may not want to use lube because it weakens the latex.

Then of course there's always the chance of the condom breaking, or that you'll be allergic to latex and get a nasty rash and won't that be fun to explain to mom and dad?

Okay now that I've actually got that out of the way I can sleep I think.[/color]
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[COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1][B]Ah... sex... got curious when I was 5... no really I cannot remember when I learned of this but it surely was when I was below 10 yrs. old. Worked my way through tv and books (well there were also fanfics...). I learned words as I was growing up and I think I know a lot about it...homo and hetero. I wouldn't deny doing it several times but I just quit and am trying to wait after I get married because "regret" is something I've been feeling for years.

It's not bad to know about sex and it's not bad to share what you know but it's also not bad to control yourself until the right time. Besides we never know when we are mature enough to do it. We just think we do.[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]
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I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something.

A lot of the morals being preached in this thread are coming from people who can't get laid. If you feel ready to tackle sex, wrap it up and enjoy yourself. It's your learning experience and not "血"biHorseWoman's or whatever. Sex doesn't always come with emotional baggage.

"you really have no right to have sex"

I think his right is his penis.
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[QUOTE=lava lamp]I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something.

A lot of the morals being preached in this thread are coming from people who can't get laid. If you feel ready to tackle sex, wrap it up and enjoy yourself. It's your learning experience and not "血"biHorseWoman's or whatever. Sex doesn't always come with emotional baggage.

"you really have no right to have sex"

I think his right is his penis.[/QUOTE]

The only people to have responded to totalimmortal are me, Chibihorsewoman and Roxie. I'm 21, Roxie's age doesn't appear in her profile, and CHW is going on 23.

so already, at least 66% of the people responding are contrary to your stereotypes of "16 year olds talking down to 14 year olds like they're Vietnam veterans or something"

Then also, Chibihorsewoman is married, so your second comment is a l ittle off too.

Once all your grossly exaggerated and frankly incorrect stereotypes are out of the way- I really see very little backing and reason to take the rest of your retort as actual truth.

It may well be "your learning experience" and not someone else's, but the thing about it is, that it's often best to have your learning experience with a little bit of wisdom from people who've been through the age that you're in and understand what you're lacking.

And as I've said, I'm not just someone who's a couple of years older, making out that I have "seen the light" or been through it all or whatnot. I'm in a completely different time of my life, and I actually am a lot more mature (arrogant as you may think it sounds) and so is CHW.

and as for the "it's you life, start having sex whenever you want" crap, that's wrong for one plain and simple reason. You are [i]not[/i] just potentially screwing up your [i]own[/i] life when you mess around with sex, but also someone else's as well.
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[quote name='lava lamp']I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something.[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]I'm turning 23 in 20 days, so I'm hardly 16 And I'm hardly talking down to anyone, I'm just gving my opinion as are you. Of course, my opinion comes from experiance from me and a few of my friends.

My best friend ended up getting pregnant the first time she had sex with her current boyfriend while she was on Ortho Tricyclin (a type of birthcontrol pill) How would you like something like that to happen to you? I got pregnant after being off birth control for a month. So maybe while I'm not Vietnam Vet marterial, I do know what I'm talking about.

What I really like is when someone comments on another person's reply and never reads the whole thing through. Did you read the part where the woman who is my birth mother was only 15 when she had me?[/color]

[quote name='lava lamp']A lot of the morals being preached in this thread are coming from people who can't get laid. If you feel ready to tackle sex, wrap it up and enjoy yourself. It's your learning experience and not "血"biHorseWoman's or whatever. Sex doesn't always come with emotional baggage.[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]Well, I'm pretty sure I didn't get pregnant through immaculate conception. Although in some religions everyone is their own God or Goddess so maybe if you want to get technical.... But no, I'm quite capable of getting 'laid' as it is. My chances would be even better if my husband wasn't deployed. What about yours? For that matter, what's so bad about being a virgin? It sure as hell is a lot safer in this day and age.

It's your learning experiance? Wow, that's a mature way to look at it! Especially since this learning experiance can lead to a few STDs, a pregnancy and a wonderful trip to the delivery room 9 months later if the condom breaks or someone is under the impression that if they pull out before they finish no sperm will get out :rolleyes: . Condoms aren't fool proof people, neither is birth control

As for the emotional baggag, you didn't really read the whole sentance did you? I said that unless both you and your sex partner can agree to be nothing more than sex partners, fine. Then you can just go about going at it until the proverbial cows come home. No strings attatched. Just remember that when you see him or her with someone else looking intimate that it's [i]only sex[/i] ANd just remember, you said it yourself as well, Sex doesn [i]Always[/i] come with emotional baggage. That doesn't mean it can't.[/color]


[quote name='lava lamp']I think his right is his penis.[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]The universal thought shared by male sex offenders everywhere. Maybe you should try to become a criminal lawyer that way your comments may help some guy avoid jail time.

Lava lamp, try as you might, you are no Wrist Cutter[/color]
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I know what you mean, I had to try and use one of them 2 years, ago, and I'm 12. I never asked what sex was, because my mother had told me when I was like 6 years old, probably even before that, I got a very straight forward explanation. Ughh... gross. I'm sorry If this comes up twice but I just learned how to post stuff, and I still don't know if I'm doing this right so sorry.
sayonara,
ha
bye
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[quote name='lava lamp']I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something.[/quote]
[color=#9933ff]That's not really a nice analogy to 'Nam. :/ But moving on, I am 15; however, may I remind you, I did NOT tell him to abstain, either. If you go back and look at my post, you'll see that all I did was give him some advice on what to do.

I highly advise you to look at the facts before you yell at me again.[/color]

[QUOTE=lava lamp]"you really have no right to have sex"

I think his right is his penis.[/QUOTE]
[color=#9933ff]I'm with ChibiHorseWoman on this one.


*coughs rather loudly* But I have a feeling this is greatly off-topic. I felt the need to defend my position (so we're even- we've both had one go at each other).
*suggests:* Maybe we should get back on track before a mod yells at us? >_>[/color]
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His right being his penis wasn't a misogynistic statement. The subject was male. The contrary is just as true. People have a "right" to have sex because they have the organs and instincts to do so. I obviously wasn't supporting criminal activity so you may want to adjust your own reading skills before you critique mine. It isn't, however, your right to tell someone they're not mature enough because they wouldn't answer questions [b]you[/b] created to your satisfaction.

Furthermore, it's amusing that all three of you took offense to my comment, "I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something," when it was purely a general statement. I wasn't implying anything so maybe relaxing would be a good idea? If you're so much older and more mature then this applying to you really shouldn't have crossed your mind. I sense a great deal of inconsistency but go figure.

I don't promote unsafe sex and while there are [slim] chances of methods of prevention on all accounts failing, that's life. In regards to STDs, I don't recall ever suggesting sex with complete strangers or anything. I didn't say have sex without the involved thought process. I said you didn't have to be the virgin Mary. Many things are common sense in regards to sex and my comments are purely on the grounds of those being mutually understood in any given example. If they're not then my comments don't apply. As for pregnancy, I'm not even going to go there. If steps are taken to prevent conception and by freak chance a condom breaks or whatever, there are 700 things you can do about it. This is also a case of common sense. After you have sex, the female doesn't have the baby in a day. Be realistic. I'm not going to take part in an argument on morals but if the female did in fact become pregnant after [b]agreeing[/b] to safe sex because of an accident, having the baby, in my opinion, wouldn't hold the male responsible.

The wrist cutter comment made me laugh. I guess because we didn't capitalize our names and don't type in fuschianeongreenpurpleblue that makes me out to be copying him. Yes, I am definitely trying to be like him. I guess by that same train of thought, MistressRoxie is trying to be like ChibiHorseWoman, who is trying to be like SwordFighter who is trying to be like Dan L. Really. That was just a pointless and idiotic comment.
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[quote name='lava lamp']Furthermore, it's amusing that all three of you took offense to my comment, "I like how 16 year olds talk down to 14 year olds online like they're Vietnam veterans or something," when it was purely a general statement. I wasn't implying anything so maybe relaxing would be a good idea? If you're so much older and more mature then this applying to you really shouldn't have crossed your mind. I sense a great deal of inconsistency but go figure.[/quote]

There is only one person to have talked in this thread, who is 14, and is thinking about having sex, and furthermore is male, and there are only three people who have responded to that in a negative (ie. you're probably not ready) way.

General statement or not, within the context of the thread it's stupidly obvious who you were talking about in that specific comment at that specific time, as it's not as if the whole thread had a pattern of 16 year old talking down to 14 year olds with only our exception. And you didn't really need to [i]imply[/i] anything- your comment said it all without even going on to implications.

Given also that straight afterwards you said "A lot of the morals being preached in this thread are coming from people who can't get laid".. I look through the whole thread and I can't see anyone else even vaguely "preaching morals" either. And then your direct quote of CHW just adds to the evidence that actually that was not just a "general statement" but also a specific one.

In short, your excuses are in sharp contrast to what you actually said.

[quote name='lava lamp]His right being his penis wasn't a misogynistic statement. The subject was male. The contrary is just as true. People have a "right" to have sex because they have the organs and instincts to do so. I obviously wasn't supporting criminal activity so you may want to adjust your own reading skills before you critique mine. It isn't, however, your right to tell someone they're not mature enough because they wouldn't answer questions [b]you[/b'] created to your satisfaction.[/quote]

Firstly, CHW's questions weren't bad at all. They weren't created for her satisfaction so much as from experience and actual wisdom.

Secondly, if you expanded on "his right is his penis", maybe we wouldn't have criticised you quite as much

Thirdly, what gives you the [i]right[/i] to have sex is not the organs and the instincts (as both of these are also characteristics of male sex offenders everywhere) but the [i]other person[/i]

[quote name='lava lamp']I didn't say have sex without the involved thought process. I said you didn't have to be the virgin Mary.[/quote]

Actually what you said was "Sex doesn't always come with emotional baggage". Emotional baggage can be commitment, thought, love, whatever. You didn't [i]just[/i] say that he needn't stay a virgin. In fact, nor did we, we only said that now might not be the best time.

[quote name='lava lamp']The wrist cutter comment made me laugh. I guess because we didn't capitalize our names and don't type in fuschianeongreenpurpleblue that makes us completely similar. Yes, I am definitely trying to be like him. I guess by that same train of thought, MistressRoxie is trying to be like ChibiHorseWoman, who is trying to be like SwordFighter who is trying to be like Dan L. Really. That was just a pointless and idiotic comment.[/quote]

She was referring to your blunt, controversial style of posting. Not your colours, font or having small case letters in your name. Wrist cutter pulls it off, and does it quite humorously.
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[quote name='Dan L']Firstly, CHW's questions weren't bad at all. They weren't created for her satisfaction so much as from experience and actual wisdom.[/quote]

I didn't say her questions were created for her satisfaction. I was saying that calling someone incorrect because they couldn't answer those questions to her satisfaction [which would be the correct answers AKA the answers pointing to the person being mature, or, in her opinion, having the right to sex] was stupid. Please read.

[quote name='Dan L]Thirdly, what gives you the [i]right[/i] to have sex is not the organs and the instincts (as both of these are also characteristics of male sex offenders everywhere) but the [i']other person[/i][/quote]

Talking about two different rights here obviously, so you feeling the need to expand is laughable. Way to catch the joke to begin with, though. The subject at hand was the [i]right[/i] regarding maturity. That's what this entire debate is about. The person in question stated it was completely mutual and that's what my post was in reference to. It wasn't vague at all, so like I said above, [b]read[/b].

[quote name='Dan L]Actually what you said was "Sex doesn't always come with emotional baggage". Emotional baggage can be commitment, thought, love, whatever. You didn't [i]just[/i'] say that he needn't stay a virgin. In fact, nor did we, we only said that now might not be the best time.[/quote]

Bringing her up had nothing to do with sexual experience at all. I wasn't saying it's not necessary to be virgin Mary because she was a virgin; I was using her as an extreme example of someone who can do no wrong which is what the popular connotation to her existence really is.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=figurative[/url]

[quote name='Dan L']She was referring to your blunt, controversial style of posting. Not your colours, font or having small case letters in your name. Wrist cutter pulls it off, and does it quite humorously.[/quote]

I knew what she was referring to. I was mocking the comparison by saying you were all trying to be the same by having something in common. The fact that I mentioned font colors as well as capitalization just makes concrete how completely idiotic the comparison was. Abstract thinking is not your forte.

I think wrist cutter is a nice individual and while we do have things in common regarding completely superficial things, saying I'm trying to copy him is ridiculous. I'd like to take this opportunity to hit on him:

[b]I am flattered.[/b]
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[QUOTE=lava lamp]I didn't say her questions were created for her satisfaction. I was saying that calling someone incorrect because they couldn't answer those questions to her satisfaction [which would be the correct answers AKA the answers pointing to the person being mature, or, in her opinion, having the right to sex] was stupid. Please read.

Talking about two different rights here obviously, so you feeling the need to expand is laughable. Way to catch the joke to begin with, though. The subject at hand was the [i]right[/i] regarding maturity. That's what this entire debate is about. The person in question stated it was completely mutual and that's what my post was in reference to. It wasn't vague at all, so like I said above, [b]read[/b].[/QUOTE]

OK, in terms of the debate on CHW's side I can see where you're coming from on that. I took it a little differently cos for me, the debate wasn't so much about "does he have the right", but "is he ready".

So although Chibihorsewoman plainly said "you have no right to have sex" if you can't answer those questions, I'd more say "you're not ready", not so much for the sex but the implications. Which is slightly different as "rights" are something which you either have or you don't- and it's usually quite clear cut. Readiness is very much down to opinion- my opinion on the matter is strong but I can't force anyone to take it in.

Obviously we've been debating about different things. So when you say "your right is based on your ability and your urges", I corrected that not because I was debating about his rights in the first place, but specifically because I wasn't and thus to me it was a separate point entirely.

[quote=lava lamp]Bringing her up had nothing to do with sexual experience at all. I wasn't saying it's not necessary to be virgin Mary because she was a virgin; I was using her as an extreme example of someone who can do no wrong which is what the popular connotation to her existence really is.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=figurative[/url][/QUOTE]

I'm British... We don't have a very strong Catholic culture here, and people on the whole don't really associate "virgin mary" with blameless so much as just "virgin". Because well, we're just brought up in a different culture. So you can't expect everyone to figurately attach the same connotations to certain characters as you do, nor knock people back when they misinterpret what you say because you're being figurative in your own cultural context.



[quote]I knew what she was referring to. I was mocking the comparison by saying you were all trying to be the same by having something in common. The fact that I mentioned font colors as well as capitalization just makes concrete how completely idiotic the comparison was. Abstract thinking is not your forte.[/QUOTE]

Forget about that one then- it's not so much I can't handle abstract thinking, I just have a tendency to take people far too seriously online when they're just taking the piss :p.
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[QUOTE=wrist cutter]:eek:

Let's have unprotected sex!![/QUOTE]


[color=darkviolet] :D

I already did that! Now I'm going to Disney world...after I do something about this small child who keeps calling me mommy.

Now about those period stories... this one is kinda nasty. :eek:

My worst one was when I had a yeast infetction because I was on some antibiotics and then I got one. And all I had in the apartment was tampons, which you can't use during a yeast infection.

I ended up going up to Wal*Mart with some toilet paper in my panties then buying the pads and the medicine for the infection. After I got home I found out that I had bled on the seat of my car as well as my clothes so I must've been waking around with a nice blood stain on my khakis! Why me?

I hope you enjoyed that story, thank you for listening.

Oh and btw you can't have sex when you have a yeast infection I read that in a magazine.[/color]
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[COLOR=Purple]What exactly is a yeast infection? All I've heard is that they're painful, but then again, what isn't? Everything there seems to be painful. Oh, and how do you get a yeast infection? Why is it called a yeast infection?

Period story? CHW, my experience is like yours. Mine started at school, and bled through my pants. Little did I know, but the stain was there from lunch and on. It was [B]not[/B] the most pleasant experience. And toilet paper sticks after a while, and is friggin hard to get off.

Oh, and for those of you who use pads, don't they get annoying after a while? I mean, it feels so...icky. At least a tampon takes that feeling away.[/COLOR]
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[font=Tahoma][size=1][color=purple]Well, I've never used pads once. My mom warned me about them and told me tampons were much better. Now that I look back on it, I think she was just trying to torture me. :shifty: Anyways, have you guys ever had any funny, embarrassing, or strange first experiences with bras? When I first had to start wearing them, I told my mom I didn't want to and I was just never going to wear a bra for the rest of my life, (of course I didn't stick to what I had said.) I decided that because it felt strange the first time wearing them, but also because I was so embarrassed about shopping for them with my mom. (But who else is there to go with?)[/color][/size][/font]
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I found out about sex when i was like 10, i asked my mum. Then i have had alot of edcation at school about it and stuff.

Can i just say something else? It's kinda embaressing when you learn about periods at school and all the boys start laughing - then again it's quite pathetic of them! :)
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[quote name='Cyriel][COLOR=Purple']What exactly is a yeast infection? All I've heard is that they're painful, but then again, what isn't? Everything there seems to be painful. Oh, and how do you get a yeast infection? Why is it called a yeast infection?[/COLOR][/quote]
[COLOR=Indigo]
A Yeast infection aka thrush, is when fugus inside you vagina goes haywire and starts to grow like mad. Normally it is kept under control by 'good' bacteria but sometime they don't work. It shouldn't hurt only itch like mad which is worse as it especially occurs at night. It can sting when you pee as well because the skin is sensitive. If it is painful than it is likely to be something more serious!!!!!!!

You can get it from just about anything if your a girl - antibiotics, sex, stress and some contreceptives can cause it.

The medicine you take of it is gross though it is like a syringe which you put inside you and squeeze out the cream. Although there are meant to be tablets avalible now. [/COLOR]
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I was very lucky to get my[COLOR=Red] . [/COLOR] at my Mom's...I know a girl who got hers in school, but she denied it and said she had sat on a red permanant marker without its cap, but the stain grew larger as the day went on...I told her to go to the nurse, but she is way too stubborn... :grumble:
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[color=#9933ff]I've noticed that guys have this strange obsession with tampons. Twice, this year, I saw older groups of teens hangin' around. And then they're talking about tampons, and some of the people are guys. So the girls show them a tampon, and they went berserk. They were like "IT'S A TAMPON!!!!!!! I HAVE A TAMPON!!!!!!!! DUDE, IT'S A TAMPON!!!!!" Which was highly annoying, and I really don't understand the need to do that. :\

The other lame tampon story was when we were talking about bacteria in science class, including the one that give you TSS (Toxic Shock Syndrome). The guys wanted to know how you got it, so our science teacher said only women get it from feminine hygiene products, and some of them thought he meant shampoo and soap. The girls burst out laughing. Heh.[/color]
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