Guest Mad Acer Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 What is wrong with everyone here? Yes, it's bad. That's why there are certain precautions you can take before having sex. Those of you who seriously don't know why you would have sex for anything but reproduction obviously haven't gone through puberty yet or are denying what has happened between the ages of 11-16. Yes, it's bad. That's why I don't do it. But to go on and on about why you shouldn't just makes you sound like idiots. I'm waiting for the perfect girl, and I know I'll have sex for pleasure one day and I'm pretty certain it will be before marriage, so I'm not going to attack the sexually active and say that they're idiots. Doing so would label me a hypocrit, and the vast majority of you need to seriously reconsider what you've said. Mostly all of it is right, but it seems like if you meet a prostitute on the street you will take out your knife and kill her right there on the spot. I'm starting to wonder if this is a place where future priests and ministers come to chat, because the percentage of people who enjoy sex on earth and the percentage here don't match up. It doesn't even add up when you take age into consideration. Please reply with some answers... -hopelessly confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 2 of the 3 people who have referenced "God" so far in this thread have either said that God did make sex for pleasure, or in my case I said that it's not a bad thing in itself (which I meant in the same way). That also seems grossly out of proportion with priests, ministers, or just general Christians in society :p. Still it's a sad fact that the majority of priests and ministers do seem to portray that sex might actually be inherently bad- ie. the only redeeming thing about it is that it brings life. More so in Catholicism, since in most other denominations they can marry. What nolimits said is half-right. Sex was created by God, [i]partly[/i] in order to reproduce. However above that first the sexual unity of a man and woman is the mirror image of the unity of the Trinity. Sex was primarily designed not for reproduction but for man and woman to "become one flesh" as they are said to when married. The other part of that reason is that it is enjoyable- because well, if it wasn't then we'd be punishing each other by having sex and God just wouldn't do that :p. Procreation is a result of sex biologically because the sperm makes contact with the egg, theologiically because the union of man and woman in the image of God naturally reflects God's defining aspect from genesis 1:1- Creator. I'm not arguing that procreation is [i]not[/i] a reason for sex, but rather it is one of a few, and not [i]the[/i] reason for sex. with regards to boundaries, the whole "being one flesh" thing means that you are one, and thus you stay one. According to the Bible, you marry for life- not just because God Says So, but because you are one with whoever you choose, and ideally you will stay that way. To non-Christians, however, marriage is only really the equivalent of making a deep commitment to someone, but with more ceremonies and all that jazz (though often ceremonies actually have an important part, because they bear witness to a change and specifically imprint into your life that "things are different from now on". So things like Funerals- for mourning purposes, Christenings- to celebrate new life, Weddings- to celebrate commitment.. all serve a purpose because they acknowledge a change in the flow of life) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 [quote name='Mad Acer']Mostly all of it is right, but it seems like if you meet a prostitute on the street you will take out your knife and kill her right there on the spot.[/size][/quote][size=1]Personally, I am all for prostitution. I think it should become more of a business, actually. These people are trying to make a legitimate living by having sex. Sure, what they do may give them a certain amount of pleasure, but I bet that feeling cannot even hold a candle to the fact that they can keep themselves alive off what they are payed. Also, if it became more commercial, so to speak, the men and women in the business can be checked out before offered to someone, in case of disease, etc. Would I ever ask a prostitute for his or her services? No, but I might just give him/her some money anyway, without anything in return. I am willing to bet most prostitutes are not in that position by choice. In general, I love those people who are down on their luck on the streets begging for money, heh. I cannot help but give them some of what I have. Even if it is just a dollar, those people are so grateful.[/size][quote name='Mad Acer']I'm starting to wonder if this is a place where future priests and ministers come to chat, because the percentage of people who enjoy sex on earth and the percentage here don't match up. It doesn't even add up when you take age into consideration.[/quote][size=1]*chuckles lightly* Me, a priest. Right. I wrote a column for my high school newspaper about how I am Jesus once (it did not go in because of the high controversy, it was all tongue-in-cheek, anyway. My adviser thought it was funny), but other than that I doubt my life will ever take such a turn. I did say I have a low sex drive earlier, and that is true. There have been times when close female friends of mine had tried to see if they could get a rise out of me (no pun intended) by sitting on my lap, or doing whatever (within reason). Usually they were surprised, because I just did not care, lol. Sometimes I would just look at them like, "What are you doing?" However, I never said there are not times when I do become a little "playful." I cannot speak for everyone here, of course, but I am not going to [i]deny[/i] anything. I have no reason to do so. Sex and related issues is actually one of my favorite topics to discuss, because I enjoy hearing other people's views on it. It can also help release any sexual tension I may have, lol. Though, for many it is just an embarassing thing to talk about with random people.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolimits Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 [COLOR=Indigo][FONT=Georgia]Replied to Mad Acer ... We don't have problems, everyone has their opinions, and yours is different from mine. I never said that having sex before marrying is a sin. What i meant is that you shouldn't have sex with someone off the street like a prosititude, but someone you truly love and care about. However i never said you should kill them, everyone has their own choice, they chose to sell sex for money, that's their choice. Also there's nothing wrong with having sex for pleasure, if people have sex only for making babies, then, alot of people will never have it, since they don't want kids. But, you should not have sex with someone that you don't have any feelings for other than sexual desire, when you do that, it is, like i've said before, just a physical act no matter how good it feels. ~peace~[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mad Acer Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Yeah, I hear yah. Thanks for the input... you guys are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [quote]Why people like to have sex for any reason other than procreation is a little fuzzy to me.[/quote] That's one incredibly low sex drive there. It's making you say crazy things. [quote]All i know is that anything sexual is very very enjoyable[/quote] Not really. I find it odd that a lot of people are taking the holier than thou approach to this thread, seperating yourselves from the "simians" or whatever that enjoy sex. Quit trying to be the next Socrates and enjoy life instead of pondering why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [quote name='Harry']I find it odd that a lot of people are taking the holier than thou approach to this thread, seperating yourselves from the "simians" or whatever that enjoy sex. Quit trying to be the next Socrates and enjoy life instead of pondering why.[/quote] [color=darkviolet]I have to agree with you Harry. If you get too hung up on being sanctimonious (myself included at times, damn Catholic upbringing!) about sex you stop enjoying it and the whole act becomes more like work. Which is a bad thing because sometimes people have sex to relieve stress from work. Don't believe me, ask anyone who has had a long day at work. After you sit around for a while have a beer and some food the next thing you'll really be looking for is some good nooky. Yes, I usually approach sex with a bit more masculine approach than is typical for quite a few women I know. Call me what you will, I've only been with one guy and I enjoy sleeping with him. I don't see why that's something to be ashamed of. Okay, sex is supposed to be enjoyable. If it wasn't meant to be that way than God or whomever would have never created the orgasm.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mad Acer Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [quote name='ChibiHorsewoman][color=darkviolet']Okay, sex is supposed to be enjoyable. If it wasn't meant to be that way than God or whomever would have never created the orgasm.[/color][/quote] I created the orgasm. Please give credit where it is due! *shakes fist* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 [quote name='Harry'] Quit trying to be the next Socrates and enjoy life instead of pondering why.[/quote] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]I could eat an entire tube o' cookie dough (and no, thats' not a metaphor for anything) and I'd enjoy it immensely. I won't enjoy it so much an hour later when I'm throwing up in the bathroom. That's how I'm seeing many people's attitudes regarding sex: they only care that it'll feel good right then, and don't care about the consequences. That's shortsighted and potentially dangerous thinking. Therein lies the problem, not with sex itself. I already said that if you're with a single partner, whom you have a steady emotional relationship with, then there really isn't any problem. It's people with less self-control than an un-nuetered dog that confuse and astound me. [QUOTE]I created the orgasm. Please give credit where it is due![/QUOTE] Can we please keep this mature?[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [QUOTE=DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]I could eat an entire tube o' cookie dough (and no, thats' not a metaphor for anything) and I'd enjoy it immensely. I won't enjoy it so much an hour later when I'm throwing up in the bathroom. That's how I'm seeing many people's attitudes regarding sex: they only care that it'll feel good right then, and don't care about the consequences. That's shortsighted and potentially dangerous thinking. Therein lies the problem, not with sex itself. I already said that if you're with a single partner, whom you have a steady emotional relationship with, then there really isn't any problem. It's people with less self-control than an un-nuetered dog that confuse and astound me. [/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE] So having sex with multiple partners= instant disease right? Oh wait no it doesn't. I don't know if you've fallen in line with the propoganda machine but if you some extremely basic things (ie: wear a condom) the likely hood of you getting a disease is small. People enjoy it (right then) because unless something happens like the condom breaking, they're pretty safe. Also the difference between enjoying cookie dough and an orgasm are usually different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [color=#707875]I don't think that someone should be telling someone [i]not [/i]to have sex outright. I mean, if someone's going to have sex...they're going to do it regardless of what others say, really. Not to say that young teenagers should be having sex. But I think the discussion is starting to move beyond that. We're now getting to the point where we are starting to tell adults how many people they may sleep with, which is ridiculous. In terms of adults, well...you are responsible for your own health. If you are stupid enough to have frequent, unprotected sex, then you probably deserve to contract an STD of some kind. lol But if you [i]do [/i]have sex in a responsible manner -- and if you're an adult -- nobody has the right to tell you that you're somehow doing something wrong. This discussion is evidence that everyone has totally different views on sex -- some think it's amazing and some aren't so turned on by it (which makes me wonder what they're doing wrong :-P Kidding, kidding!) In terms of teens having sex...I think it's obvious as to why there are laws about the "legal age" for sex. Yes, it's not that arbitrary in reality (some people are ready sooner than others), but it should be obvious that kids without the physical or emotional maturity shouldn't be having sex. But if they [i]do[/i], they should obviously be well informed about how to protect themselves (because obviously, short of monitoring every child 24 hours a day, they're going to do it if they really want to).[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 [quote name='Harry']So having sex with multiple partners= instant disease right? Oh wait no it doesn't. [/quote] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Well, actually, by the age of 24, one in three sexually active people will contract and STD. But, if you actually read what I said at the beginning of this topic, my only point wasn't disease. I also mentioned the emotional complications that result from promiscuious sex.[/color][/size][/font] [QUOTE]I don't know if you've fallen in line with the propoganda machine but if you some extremely basic things (ie: wear a condom) the likely hood of you getting a disease is small. [/QUOTE] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms][i]What[/i] "propoganda machine"? Sex is thrown at most people through every media avenue, is glorified in movies and on television, and is hawked to sell products. Where is there this huge, anti-sex movement I've been recieving propoganda from, pray tell?[/color][/size][/font] [QUOTE]People enjoy it (right then) because unless something happens like the condom breaking, they're pretty safe.[/QUOTE] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Except that the percentage of sexually promiscuious people (more than two partners within a year) using condoms has increased, but the percentage of people with an STI or unwanted pregnancy are also increasing. A condom is not some magical piece of rubber that makes all consequences go away. [/color][/size][/font] [QUOTE]Also the difference between enjoying cookie dough and an orgasm are usually different.[/QUOTE] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]The anology stands.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolimits Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [COLOR=Indigo][QUOTE] I created the orgasm. Please give credit where it is due![/QUOTE] [FONT=Georgia]LMAO!!! :laugh: [/FONT] [QUOTE] Can we please keep this mature?[/QUOTE] [FONT=Georgia]Dude, lighten up :) ~peace~[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 [QUOTE=nolimits][COLOR=Indigo] [FONT=Georgia]Dude, lighten up :) ~peace~[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]It's not that I mind a joke here or there, but that post was kind of spammy, and I don't wantt he thread to get locked because it turns into spammy sex jokes. Please don't take any offense.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 [QUOTE=DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Well, actually, by the age of 24, one in three sexually active people will contract and STD. [/color][/size][/font][/quote] Proof? I highly doubt that. That sounds similiar to the 1/3 of all women get raped statistic. [quote][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms][i]What[/i] "propoganda machine"? Sex is thrown at most people through every media avenue, is glorified in movies and on television, and is hawked to sell products. Where is there this huge, anti-sex movement I've been recieving propoganda from, pray tell?[/color][/size][/font][/quote] Ever seen a sex-ed course at a public school or church? [quote][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms] A condom is not some magical piece of rubber that makes all consequences go away. [/color][/size][/font][/quote] As long as you don't do something stupid it works. [quote][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]The anology stands.[/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE] If you like ****** anlogies I guess you can let it stand. I'm curious as to how many times you've actually had sex and with how many different partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mad Acer Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Harry speaketh the truth. You do need to chill out a little bit. All this arguing is useless. You can't convince dozens of teenagers that sex is bad; it just doesn't happen. Just admit that in today's society casual sex happens. If you don't like it, then invent a time machine and go back to the fifties. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote name='Harry']I'm curious as to how many times you've actually had sex and with how many different partners.[/quote] [color=darkviolet]What does that have to do with the price of cheese? Just because DB's saying that people should be more careful about having sex doesn't mean that he has to talk about his whole sex life. I don't think that's really anyone's business. Of course, maybe it wasn't my business to reply to that either. Aw well.[/color] [QUOTE=Mad Acer]I created the orgasm. Please give credit where it is due! *shakes fist*[/QUOTE] [color=darkviolet]Don't you wish. :laugh: [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Samedi Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [url=http://www.myotaku.com/users/baron_samedi][size=1]It's all genetic. :p I just wanted to say that. No-one here even has to listen to my opinions. But, the question at hand is not is sex enjoyable, did God make it so, are prostitutes acceptable. All good questions, but the main point is "Why do people have sex?". And so much too! It seems enjoyable. It is kind of an 'elitist' group. Society throws it at us. Peer pressure. Love for another. Mindless hormones. There are dangers...but if people had the [i]n[/i]th degree of common sense, they'd understand, [i]and take precautions[/i] against this. Personally, everyone else can have as much rabid sex in the corridors as they want [provided it is consentual ~_^], but I'll have sex when I'm ready to, and with someone I have more than dick-feelings for.[/size][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [QUOTE=Baron Samedi][url=http://www.myotaku.com/users/baron_samedi][size=1]It's all genetic. :p I just wanted to say that. No-one here even has to listen to my opinions. But, the question at hand is not is sex enjoyable, did God make it so, are prostitutes acceptable. All good questions, but the main point is "Why do people have sex?". And so much too! It seems enjoyable. It is kind of an 'elitist' group. Society throws it at us. Peer pressure. Love for another. Mindless hormones. There are dangers...but if people had the [i]n[/i]th degree of common sense, they'd understand, [i]and take precautions[/i] against this. Personally, everyone else can have as much rabid sex in the corridors as they want [provided it is consentual ~_^], but I'll have sex when I'm ready to, and with someone I have more than dick-feelings for.[/size][/url][/QUOTE] Very well, but [i]why[/i] is that whole post linked to your myO account? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote] Well, actually, by the age of 24, one in three sexually active people will contract and STD. [/quote] [color=indigo]I think you are being fed some misinformation. I know that there was a study done in the US that stated about one out of every twenty-five sexually active people in the US will have contracted some kind of sexually transmitted disease in their lifetime, however on;y half of those people will ever know that they carry a disease. That was a few years ago but I am pretty sure that statistic hasn't jumped that dramatically. I also believe that more people are admitting to unplanned pregnancies than ever before. There used to be(and still can be) a very nasty stereotype that was forced upon women that became pregnant before marriage. A ton of women either rushed into marriage or had a cloak and dagger abortion. However, people these days are a little more honest when it comes to abortions or being knocked up incidentally. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Samedi Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote name='Dan L']Very well, but why is that whole post linked to your myO account?[/quote] [SIZE=1]How'd that get there o_O ... >_>[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote name='ChibiHorsewoman][color=darkviolet']What does that have to do with the price of cheese? Just because DB's saying that people should be more careful about having sex doesn't mean that he has to talk about his whole sex life. I don't think that's really anyone's business. [/color][/quote] I didn't want to put him on the spot, it just seems his whole attitude towards sex is that's it's not any better than riding a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Samedi Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote name='Harry']...attitude towards sex is that's it's not any better than riding a bike.[/quote][size=1]Funny that you should phrase it so...considering lots of sex is...riding a...bike. >_>[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [QUOTE=Baron Samedi][size=1]Funny that you should phrase it so...considering lots of sex is...riding a...bike. >_>[/size][/QUOTE] Heh, that wasn't accidental :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 [quote name='Harry']Heh, that wasn't accidental :D.[/quote] [color=darkviolet]And what's the reasoning behind that metaphor? Once you fall off you get right back on and continue riding? :devil: Or maybe...once you've done it you never forget how? :eek: Or even...You never forget your first one? Sorry, I'm in a goofy mood now. Heck maybe for some people eating cookie dough is an orgasmic experiance. Who am I to judge?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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