Superhero Movies--Now and the Future

[Onix]

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]I hope there isn't a thread like this, I didn't see one anyway.

I know there are threads discussing Spiderman 2, 3, X-Men, and all that. What I wanted to talk about is all and more. Possibilities for future movies in existing series, new Superheroes they could "adapt" and whatnot.

[B][U]POSSIBLE FUTURES[/U][/B] (containts spoilers)-

[B][U]Spiderman 3[/U][/B]--
There are three villains I can see being in the next Spiderman (as there has to be one). I should probably post this in the Spiderman 3 thread, but here goes. It will, in all likelyhood, be either Green Goblin, Venom, or the Lizard. They left open the Green Goblin thing quite blatantly in the end of Spiderman 2, [spoiler]what with Harry finding his fathers stuff.[/spoiler]

However, he could become either evil or good. If he's evil, we get another Green Goblin story with a few minor twists. Not too intriguing. What I believe they may do, is have a good GG team up with Spiderman, and face...Venom. Why? Two reasons. One, because Venom is the only villain worth Spidey and GG. Two, because my friend said they were making Venom next.

They may decide to ignore Harry and the Goblin for now, but it's doubtful. I think my idea is more feasible. Also, there could be an appearance by the Lizard, as they had the one-armed Doctor/Professor Connors (sp?). They didn't just put him in for fun. They're going to include him at some point, if Spiderman doesn't flop before that.

[B][U]X-Men 3[/U][/B]--
To any X-Men fan, this should be obvious. It's going to be Dark Phoenix/Phoenix. Jean appears dead, in a plane (spaceship?) related accident. This is the set-up for the Phoenix force.

My question it: how much are they going to include from the Comics/TV Show. There are two other things that may come into play here. One being the Hellfire Club (possible) and the Shi'ar (unlikely).

Of course, they could ignore Jean's story for a little while, and do another idea while pulling out the Phoenix Force for the Fourth movie. But I don't know if they'd do that.

[B][U]Hulk 2, Daredevil 2, etc[/U][/B]--
I pray that they make neither of these movies. Daredevil (according to some people I know. I didn't see it) sucked. Plus, I don't know anything about Daredevil, so I can't comment.

I also hope they don't make a Hulk 2. Why? I never liked the Hulk. From what I understand, it was always pretty much: "Hulk smash!", army attack, "Hulk Smash!", army defeated. The end. There weren't any villains or allies I can remember as colorful or interesting besides She-Hulk. I think that the Hulk is better as a villain. Plus, he's a Jekyll/Hyde rip-off. Any comments?

[B][U]OTHER MOVIES[/U][/B]-

What else could they make? I know that they're making another Superman, and another Batman (or so I've heard) and they're coming out with Catwoman (which is just a blatant excuse to get Halle Berry [sp?] in tight leather). But what else. Let's examine:

Captain America--
While we're riding this wave of uber-patriotism, CA is a plausible one. However, I never got him. He's was a patriotic, shield-flinging, super-soldier who's only purpose was propaganda. He worked better as Wolverine backstory.

Aquaman--
God no. The man talks to fish. That's it.

The Flash--
Maybe...I don't know much about him, though. Superspeed, annoying attitude. Could have some interesting SFX and romance, but I don't know enough history.

Wonder Woman--
Could be. Might set feminists off, though. But which way? Apparently, her original form was actually a favorite of Gloria Steinem, and the re-modeled form that was created was disliked (I saw a Comic Book documentary, okay?)

Fantastic Four--
This could work. I never payed them much attention, but they seemed kind of cool. Dr Doom was awesome, too.

Justice League--
Why deal with individual Superheroes like Spiderman when you can have a diverse an interesting group like the X-Men? You get Superman (standard) Wonder Woman (feminists), the Flash ('tude, man), Green Latern (the black one, not the carboard original white guy), Batman (he's was kind of in it), throw in some others for spice, and you've got a media franchise. Better than Aquaman, anyway.

Captain Planet--
I know, I know, I'm kidding, right? I hope so. Captain Planet was the most miserable excuse for a superhero ever. The entire premise of the cartoon was just an excuse to cram Ecological propaganda down our throats (I was in the generation of CP), along with a healthy dash of race-relations and female empowerment, with a lame superhero, stupid villains, and magic rings as an afterthough.

Any thoughts on your parts? Any Wonder Woman/Fantastic Four/X-Men/Hulk fans with ideas to share? Anybody else who spent their childhood enchanted with the mystic world of superheroes and super-villains?

-ULX, feeling kind of geeky right now[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[DeathBug]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]As an out-and-proud Geek, I'm psyched about all the future superhero movie projects, even if it means we have to take some real clunkers (Daredevil: Why, God? Why?!) along with the good.

Now that I'm here, I might as well voice my extreme disapproval of [i]Catwoman[/i]. Halle Barry can't act, the change to her origin is stupid, and why does she dress like a street whore? In the comics, the cartoons and [i]Batman Returns[/i], Catwoman wore a full-body costume. Her old costume could make three or four of these glorified dominatrix undergarments the new Catwoman is wearing.

Positive female role model my arse; I want [i]Spider-Girl: The Movie[/i].[/color][/size][/font]

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

Don't forget the BIG one, Batman Begins. That's gonna be huge, and I'm hoping it'll be more true to the Batman legacy than the other films were.

I'm concerned about X-Men 3 only because in each and every film they toy around with adding the horrible, movie-breaking Sentinels. I've seen concept art for them, and it scares me. Sentinels would kill the film, because as soon as humans start making Sentinels, it no longer makes sense for them to drive around in cars/tanks and fly in jets/helicopters. Sentinels are way too advanced of a technology. It would really kill the films for me.

[Ellerby]

[SIZE=1]Wow. It's all true. I really hope they make Hulk 2. >.<

Anyways, it's said that there will be a total of 6 Spiderman movies but Tobe McGuire (sp?) has only signed to do up to the fourth. Yeesh. That'll be odd.

Also, I believe they are currently making a Fantastic Four movie. I remember seeing some pictures. Or maybe it was a dream.. err nightmare.

I [b]also[/b] heard that Venom will be in the third so that's covered. I think they should make a Tic movie. Did anyone ever watch that show? I think it would be great.[/SIZE]

[Transtic Nerve]

Well in all fairness, all of these movies are up for grabs. Let me explain by telling you all the information you'll need on comic movies in the works.

[b]Crappy-Movie 3/Spider-Man 3:[/b]
I don't at all expect to see Venom or Carnage in Spider-Man 3. If anything, they'll do a Spider-Man 4 or even possibly Venom or Carnage's own side project film. What I expect to see in Spider-Man 3 are the possibility of 3 things, all having to do with Green Goblin. Green Goblin II (Harry) will be in the movie. They can't end the movie like they did and just not have him in there. But Since we already had a movie focused on the Green Goblin, this one will be more less focused solely on Harry and more on.... other people. My thoughts is that Harry will call upon other people to help kill Spider-Man. If you remember when Harry was gonna stab Spider-Man he jumped back when he saw it was Peter. I don't think Harry can kill Spider-Man despite his hatred for him. So what he'll do is clal upon others to do the work for him, and probably pay lots of money. These people include and are not limited to All membersof the Sinister Six, The Lizard, Kraven, The Rhino, and there is also a possibility of The Black Cat making some sort of appearance. I don't expect to see Venom or Carnage because their side story is simply too in depth to throw into this movie. Maybe maybe maybe as a teaser at the end of Spider-man 3 will you see some reference to Venom. Thats if they have any sense what-so-ever. But from the first two movies, any crap here is possible.

[b]X-Men 3/X3:[/b]
Here is the real tossup. Now you may not think so because of the ending to X2, but the script it yet to be written and so many ideas were tossed around, including one to not do the Dark Phoenix saga at all. That ocourse would make no sense, so my guess is that they will do a little on the Dark Phoenix saga. But I don't think they will push it too much and it'll probably come forth in the end of the movie somewhere. Also remember the actual saga that took place in the comics was around 35 issues. Theres no way you can fit that much information in one movie. There are alot of rumors going around abotu this movie. They talked about Sentinels making an appearance. A couple new characters including Jessica Simpson playing Dazzler. A Wolverine side story in his own film around the same time X3 is released. Iceman vs. Pyro. X3 and X4 to be filmed at the same time and released one after another. The Danger Room will make a strong apperance. Also Hugh Jackman has a 3 movie deal, Allan Cummings, Rebecca Romijn Stamos, James Marden are already signed with X3. Ian McKellen is likely to sign and Halle Berry might return as Strom. She said she would love to talk to producers about it. If shooting goes as planned to start Spring of 2005, expect the release date of X3 to be May 2nd 2006. At least thats the spot Fox already has written down. Of course with everything, that is subject to change.
All of this is rumored material. Except for the ones who already signed on the movie and whatnot. Liek I said, I don't expect to see alot of Phoenix in this movie. I doubt the whole movie will be focused around Phoenix. It'll be focused on some other side stories and somewhere near the end, the Phoenix will make her arrival saving the day, etc etc etc. Expect it to be GOOD, Very Good.

[b]Daredevil 2/Elektra[/b]
Daredevil gave rise to the character Elektra and expect her to have her own film. Expect it to be released and to also coinside with Daredevil 2. If they make a Daredevil 2. If not, you'll probably see a cameo by Daredevil int he Elektra movie. I don't have much information about these movie plots.

[b]Hulk/SMASH BAD MOVIE![/b]
No. Hulk 2 won't happen. Why? Because the first one wasn't a big success. Maybe if it had been huge like Spider-Man, they would have. Plus there's not much character to the Hulk. He's just.... big, green, and ugly. Who wants to see that for an hour and a half.

[b]Fantastic Four/F4[/b]
Bet you didn't know they already made an F4 movie did ya? Well they did and it was so crappy it was never released, lucky for us you can probably find it downloadable on Kazaa or what not. I did, it really did suck.... his movie is already in semi-production. Ioan Gruffudd will be playing Reed Richards/Mr. Fatastic, Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm (Thing) and Jessica Alba has been cast as the Sue Storm/Invisible Girl. Expect to also see Dr. Doom in the movie. F4 was marvel's first popular comic. It has a legacy to maintain and it will most likely be kept through film sometime here very soon.

[b]Ghost Rider/Flaming Head Dude Who Rides Cool Motorcycle[/b]
Talks have happened, locations being scouted, script somewhat done. This movie will happen. And it'll be badass as well.

[b]Punisher/GUN? No Super Powers?[/b]
Sequel has been scratched for the time being. Don't expect it any time soon, if ever. There's simply no money in a superhero movie with no super-powers.

[b]Hellboy 2/HORNS! I WANT HORNS![/b]
In the works. Filming should start in Summer 2005. Script not yet finished.

[b]Iron Fist and Black Widow/whoopi, can't wait...[/b]
Marvel has signed over movie making rights to Lion Gate for these two characters, but thats it so far. I dunno, Iron Fist and Black Widow are boring and if they go through, LGF will be out more money. Who knows.

[b]Other Ideas[/b]
Captain America: Here's an idea that may be played out. But here's a better idea. The Avengers. Cap was part of the Avengers, so why not make it 5 times better by throwing him in with Thor and Iron Man and everyone else. I think it'd make a much better movie than just boring Cap by himself.

X-Force: Perhaps and Idea, although it may be playing too much off of X-Men for anyone to pay that much notice. They'll have to release it at a timely date.

DC Comics: I hate DC comic characters. They are boring and don't dress well. So I really don't expect to see any movies out of them except the ones already being made (Batman, SuperMan, Catwoman) and Wonderwoman which is in the process of being made.

Cameos: Ah, as we all know, or well, should know.... Comics are famous for having character cameos. Spider-Man, Daredevil, F4, X-Men, X-Force, Punisher... etc. They all have cameos to each other, why not throw this in the films! I think it's an absolutely great idea. The whole time watching Daredevil and The Punisher, I was just hoping to see Spidy comes flyin by a window or something. Something simple like that would be great! I think it would add alot to a movie if they would write cameos of comic characters into the script. Ofcourse, with the current movies, each marvel flick has been released under a different studio. X-Men - Fox, Spider-Man - Universal, Punisher - Lion Gate, Daredevil - Fox, Hulk - Universal

And thats about all the news you'll find. Who feels like a geek now?

[wrist cutter]

I'd go to see the Fantastic Four if they cast Jessica Alba as the Invisible Girl. Damn.

Though personally I'd rather see a [url=http://maddox.xmission.com/dare_devil.html][b]Lobo[/b][/url] movie.

[Prince Van]

Fantastic four was made already but they never released it in cinemas, I'm in england and I've seen it so they ahve made it.

How could anyone miss the best out.
Blade 3:Only a rumour, i don't expect it at all.

Silver Surfer:I think Stan lee said soemthing abotu making silver surfer the movie.

From what I've heard, they're making 3 of each Marvel thing like Spider-man, X-men etc.

[Shy]

[size=1]Hm, fun.

[b]Spider-Man 3,4,5,6,7,8,9[/b]

There are going to be a [i]lot[/i] of Spider-Man movies, regardless of which actors decide to stick around and which ones don't. It's looking like the core cast (Tobey, Kirstyn, and director Sam Raimi) only want to do three films, but that doesn't prevent a whole new team from taking over and producing Spider-Man films. The Batman film series changed it's cast halfway through the series, although the results sucked. More Spider-Man movies would make me happy, and changing the main cast would make me even happier. Assuming that the third film is as profitable as the first two are, there's no reason not to continue making movies.

As for potential villains, things have clearly been set-up for Green Goblin 2 being the main villain in the next film. How this is played out is going to be interesting,because it obviously needs to be more than a simple rehash of the first Green Goblin.

Venom is one of the "Big Three" Spider-Man villains, in my opinion, right up there with the Green Goblin and Doc Ock. I doubt they would cram him into the same film with Green Goblin, but if the movie series does continue I would expect him to show up in a fourth film. John Jamison is an astronaut, after all, and someone has to bring the Venom to Earth. My bet is that we'll end up with John Jamison as Venom, as opposed to the original Venom, Eddie Brock. Adding Carnage to the mix just makes things too crowded, though. I doubt we'll ever see Carnage in a Spider-Man movie, but if the character of Venom is popular enough in Spidey 4 perhaps we'll see him appear in a Venom spin-off.

I like TN's theory about Green Goblin hiring allies to help him defeat Spider-Man. The Rhino, Elektro, Shocker, Sandman... pretty much any of Spider-Man's enemies could make some sort of appearance here. I doubt that the Lizard will, since I think if the series continues long enough he will end up becoming the main villain in his own movie.

[b]X-Men 3, X-Men 4?[/b]

I don't remember what happened to the rumors of X-Men 3 and 4 being filmed at the same time. I'm not sure if that is still a possibility, but it seems like the best direction to take. The X-Men movies have a very large ensemble cast, and it might be difficult to get the together to film two separate movies. Especially people like Halle Berry, who seems unhappy with Storm's small role in the films, and doesn't want to play the character any more.

Like Spider-Man, the X-Men have a nearly unlimited number of great stories and characters that could be adapted into a feature film. People seem to be pushing towards the Pheonix Saga being done in the the third film, although I'd like to have a film or two with Jean Grey dead, to make it more dramatic when the Pheonix bursts onto the scene. I don't expect the movies' Pheonix Saga to take place in outer space at all; they'll probably write it off as being a very advanced mutation, which is how the comics have placed it currently, I believe. I think that's for the best: a lot of casual moviegoers wouid be turned off at the sight of Shi-ar battle cruisers.

But Sentinels are cool. I want to see a Sentinel is my X-Movie, darn it! Even just one would be nice, I'm not asking for Master Mold or anything... just one, please?

[b]Hulk 2[/b]

I'm sure there is going to be a Hulk 2 someday, but it's going to be a much different film than the original. The first one was incredibly dark, which is probably the wrong direction to take with the character in a feature film. As for villains, I always felt like the Hulk's arch-enemy was the Hulk himself... I'm sure it will be some random monster like the Abomination, and the two will pound each other into the ground for two hours. Yay for violence; it sells toys.

[b]Daredevil 2 / Elektra[/b]

I'm expecting good things from the Elektra movie, even though Jeniffer Garner is completely wrong for the part. It's going to be one of the big action movies next Summer; and although I know very little about the plot, I've read that it's a prequel of sorts.

Ben Affleck doesn't want to do Daredevil 2, which is fine because nobody wanted him to play Daredevil in the first place. If another Daredevil film is made, I'd expect to see an entirely new cast. It's much cheaper that way, and they have a chance to make a fresh approach to the character, as opposed to trying to continue in the vein of the original.

[b]Fantastic Four[/b]

Yay! My favorite superhero family is coming to the big screen. The Fantastic Four are one of Marvel's classic titles, and it would be a huge disgrace to ruin them with another bad movie. My only complaint is that the movie is being set in modern times, which means completely rethinking their origin (We need to beat the Soviets in the space race!) Hopefully it will be done well, and stay true to the characters. This is going to be a lot of fun to watch; I'm more excited about this one than any other Superhero movie.

[b]Captain America / Thor / Iron Man / Giant Man & Wasp[/b]

I'd love to see an Avengers film (Namor tries to invade New York with his Atlantean army, and it's up to the Earth's MIghtiest Heroes to teach him a lesson in pain) but it all comes down to money. It would take a lot of money to do an Avengers film justice, and why make one movie with all of these characters when you can make a dozen films about individual members of the league. Cha-ching!

Iron Man has been in the works for quite a while; Tom Cruise even agreed to take on the title role. It looks like they are going with a relatively unknown actor, which seems like a better idea. Iron Man is very cool, and doesn't need to be overshadowed some A-list actor.

Captain America can be an excellent movie; I just hope they stick with the "Ultimates" take on the character, rather than the incredibly boring version that exists in regular Marvel continuity.

Thor um... people seem to like Thor. [i]Someone[/i] is out there buying his comics, right? The character is fun in a team setting, but as an individual he bores me. Ultimate Thor is one of my favorite characters, though. I'd be more interested in seeing that version of the character make it to the big screen.

Like with many other Avengers, if you have read "Ultimates" chances are you like their Ultimate alter-ego more than the original. Wasp and Giant-Man are pretty boring in the normal universe, but in Ultimates they are probably the most interesting characters out there. I don't know how effectively these two characters could carry a movie on their own, but if done effectively it would rock. At least Tony and I would like it.

[b]Luke Cage / Iron Fist / Black Widow / Black Panther[/b]

Marvel is smart, and they can somehow convince a movie studio to create a major motion picture around some of their lesser-known characters. The fact that there is a Blade trilogy is a testament to the fact that even the lamest of Marvel characters is better than half of the stuff being created by that [i]other[/i] comic company.

Aside from Black Widow, the four characters mentioned above very small roles in the Marvel Universe. In fact, most of them seem to disappear from comics for decades at a time without anyone really noticing or caring.

Luke Cage is actually a fun character -- a convincted felon being experimented on by the government, he gets super-strength/unbreakable skin. Give him his private investigator girlfriend, Jessica Jones and you have a romantic urban crime drama with superpowers. Jackpot.

I hate Iron Fist. Stupid name, awful costume, I hope this movie never gets made.

Black Widow can be an awesome movie. Black Widow is a former Soviet spy who has been recruited to work for the US government, and she kicks a lot of butt. Yay for girls who kick butt.

Black Panther is a character that I find really boring, but again, I'm not the one who has control over which movies get made and which ones don't. But if I did...

[b]Shy's Wishlist for Marvel Characters He'd Like to See in a Movie[/b]
[list][*]Spider-Girl
[*]Sandman
[*]Scarlet Witch
[*]Vision
[*]Silver Surfer
[*]Galactus
[*]Rhino
[*]Dazzler (I think she's cool, okay?)
[*]Mr. Sinister
[*]Bishop
[*]Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
[*]Blob
[*]White Queen
[*]Psylocke
[*]Hydro-Man
[*]Juggernaut
[*]Multiple Man
[*]Omega Red
[*]She-Hulk
[*]Polaris
[/list]

Next post: DC Comics and Beyond!

-Shy[/size]

[Semjaza]

Dazzler would be just fine... except for the fact that the people involved with X-Men 3 apparently are eyeing Jessica Simpson for the role. No freaking thanks.

[Doukeshi]

Well, I am really looking forward to '[i]Batman Begins[/i]', a wonderful return to the old gothic days before they found UV paint and George Clooney. Catwoman, however, I'm just going to watch to see how truly crap it really is...*shudders*.

I am also interested in what is going to happen in X3. As you said they are probably going to focus on the whole Phoenix saga thing, though I doubt they'll bring in any outside influences such as the Shi'ar, too complex. I want to see Gambit in it, though my sources tell me that he is only going to make a cameo a la Beast in X2. Shame really.

Daredevil did not "suck", though I don't think that it was good enough for a sequel, though 'Elektra' is is in the pipeline isn't it? I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that one.

On other DC characters: They probably are going to make a Wonderwoman movie, or is that a definite? I only think that would work if they made a justice league movie or something similar. There is already a 'Flash' movie out there. I only know this because I came across a video of it in my local Blockbusters sale bin, quite a freaky find I can tell you.

The one I would most like to see isn't actually a movie, and it has already been tried. 'Birds of Brey' a Batman DC spinoff comic. This has already been made into a shortlived TV series as you may know, though it bore little resemblance to the actually comics, the only recognisable character being Barbara Gordon. I would like someone to give it another shot as a TV series, but to keep it closer to the original comics, I believe that would make a better series than anything they could manipulate.

I don't really want to see anymore Super hero movies. I think that franchise has been done to death, lets see something original...or at least give this idea a couple of decades breathing space huh.

[Guest idontlikepie]

I know I probably won't have a lot of credibility here, considering I'm a new member, but whatever.

I'm just gonna post about Marvel's movies, because I really don't like any of the stuff DC's been churning out.

[U][B]X-Men 3/X-3[/B][/U]
From the articles I've read, it's my understanding that the main story line they're going to be focusing on will be the Dark Pheonix Saga. I don't think they're neccesarily going to be doing it in the same way. Spoilers below.

[COLOR=Black]In the comics, The X-men were in space doing there thing. On the way back to Earth, their ship was caught in a radiation storm. The pilot's cabin didn't have sufficient shielding, so Jean insisted on flying the ship alone, hoping she could resist radiation poisoning. She failed to though, but just as she was about to die, the cosmic entity known as "The Pheonix Force" found her. It duplicated her body and psyche, and then guided the ship to crash-land in Jamaica Bay. It placed the real Jean in a cocoon and put it at the bottom of the sea bed.[/COLOR]

Now it wasn't revealed at all that the Jean in the comics after the plane crash was the Pheonix Force. The clone itself thought it was Jean, and had no recollection of what happened in the ship. After a while, the force awakened and was corrupted by it's near-limitless power. But eventually, Jean's personality dominated and cause it to sacrifice itself to save the world.

For this reason, I can't see them using that story for the movie. I imagine they'd do something slightly different, like just having Jean possesed by the Pheonix, not cloned. To many clones already.

I also think that the Sentinals will somehow be put inot the movie. They had some concept art done for X-2, but they weren't used. They also had concept art for the Danger Room, and that is being used in X-3, so hopefully I'll get to see some big bad mutant hunting robots.

The characters form X-2 will be returning, and the cast will remain basically the same, although Halle Berry has not confirmed that she will be playing Storm again. She feels that her character doesn't get enough screen time....whatever.

The character Dazzler is being put into this movie, and even possibly getting her own spin-off movie. I think this could be great, I've always been fond of the Dazzler character in the comics. But I can't see Jessica Simpson playing her. She's not an actress. Just because Dazzler's character is a singer doesn't mean they need to cast a singer as her. I mean, it's not like there's a shortage of blonde singers in Hollywood! I don't think I could sit through the next X-Men movie AND another movie all her won if it stars Jessica Simpson.

There have also been talks of another DVD release, X-Men 2.5. Hopefully, this DVD will contain the long awaited Gambit Cameo that everyone wants to see so badly.

There are also discussions of a Wolverine movie being released along side X-3.

[B][U]Spider-Man 3[/U][/B]
I see a few things being possible in this movie.

The biggest possibility I see is Venom. He's probably the most well known villian, and a pretty simple one to understand. I imagine they'd make his story similar to the one used in the Animated series from the 90's.

In Spider-Man 2, they introduced the character of Professor Connors, who becomes the Lizard. They may put him in the movie, and I don't think that would be too bad.

I also think that the Sinister Six/Seven could be a good Idea. I'd like to see more then just one villian per movie.

No matter what the story, I think that they should continue with the Green Goblin Storyline, but not make it the main plot of the movie. Keep it in the background, or else it will just seem like the first movie all over again.

[B]Daredevil 2/Elektra/[/B]
I think these movies could be really good. They need to focus more on the story then all the action of the first. The comic characters are probably just as cool if not cooler then most of there other titles.

[U][B]Hulk 2[/B][/U]
I thinkt his movie could also be good, but they need to use things people are more familiar with instead of just lines like "HULK SMASH!!!!" or "You won't like me when I'm angry"

[U][B]Other Titles[/B][/U]
For those of you who didn't know, marvel has two more movies coming out this year.

One is [B]Man-Thing[/B]. I don't know why they decided to make a movie about him. He's not that interesting and he's not that important. He's never even had his own comic. He first showed up in the "Strange Tales" comics and just kinda bounced around. It's your clasic radiation story. He was in the swamp, he dropped some chemicals, and he got merged with the muck. End of story.

The third Blade movie, [B]Blade Trinity[/B], is also coming out this year. I haven't seen the first two, but I understand that they are pretty good. I don't really have much to say because the story lines in the movies are so drastically different from the comics, that anything is possible.

After the original flop of the first [B]Fantastic Four[/B] movie, they have recast and are filming another one. Don't know much about this title, but I really hope it lives up to the series.

Okay, I'm done.

[Manic Webb]

note: I'm gonna have to shrink my font to "1" for this one...

[size=1][b]Avengers? Bah! We Want Ultimates![/b]
Let's be honest, Shy. You want [i]The Ultimates[/i] made into a movie. You want Thor, but Ultimate? You want Sam Jackson to play Fury? You like Cap America's backstory in Ultimate form? Wasp and Giant Man more interesting? Scarlet Witch? Black Widow? Let's not fool ourselves by using titles like [i]Avengers.[/i].

You know, I could really go for an Ultimates movie, now. ;)

[b]X-Men 3[/b]
Ah, the troubles of the Phoenix Saga. I think the direction they went in the [i]New X-Men[/i] book would work better in the movies than anything else. Her mutation is advancing, she tapping into a cosmic force, and she's [spoiler]prepping to make The Judgement of the Phoenix.[/spoiler]. I'd like to see hints of the Phoenix's presence throughout the movie, followed by Jean making a grand entrance and saving their lives.

Halle Berry has been complaining that Storm doesn't have a big enough part in the movies. Funny, I don't see Mr. Marsden complaining about his collective 3 minutes of screentime in X2.

[b]Catwoman[/b]
I've come to the conclusion that, despite the name, this does not count as a movie based on a comic book. Why? Because the only thing this Catwoman has in common with the famed comic character is a whip. Her name is different, her origin is different, even her purpose for being Catwoman is different. I refuse to see this movie, simply because it will only encourage the writers who wrote this thing overnight.

I would, however, be tempted to see it if it simply had a different title. If Halle Berry were starring in "Femme Feline," I'd be all over it.

[b]Spider-Man [#][/b]
Or shall we say $pider-Man? I hope any involvement of the Green Goblin in the next movie is really played down. Harry (in the movies) lacks ambition. He'd likely turn into the Goblin for 5 minutes, fail at killing Peter, and whine about it for the rest of the movie. Play on it right, and we might actually feel his torment and the horrible dilemma of killing his best friend.

Okay, why are all of these rumors going around about John Jameson becoming Venom? Seriously. The third movie hasn't even been written yet. I think fans are just a little [i]too[/i] anxious to see Venom in the third movie, realize Eddie hasn't shown up at all in the second movie, and are looking for the closest person to make into Venom. "Hey, Jameson was involved with the black suit in the cartoon, and he's likely to hate Peter in the next movie, and Eddie Brock is nowhere in sight... let's all assume he'll be Venom." I find this logic flawed for the simple fact that it's stupid.

But I mean that in a good way.

[b]Hulk[/b]
I always thought this guy was overrated, even as a comic book character. I found the animates series interesting for the first 3 episodes, but I think the Hulk is overall boring. The only way I ever liked the Hulk was when all of his personalities were fused together, and the Hulk was an intelligent, smart-alec (and still green, mine you).

[b]DC[/b]
While Marvel has been capitalizing on the movie front, DC has dominated the animated series medium for a few years, now. Since Marvel's late-90s bankrucy, the only series they've made is X-Men Evolution and a CG Spider-Man that MTV cancelled. DC doesn't have many movies on their roster, but with the right writers (ie. people who don't write Superman's comic books), we could be looking at some decent movies. Here's some of my preferences...
[b]Black Canary/Birds of Prey:[/b] Put a woman on a motorcycle and watch her kick some butt. Throw in a nice sound effect for her canary-cry, and we may have something. Meanwhile, the identity of Oracle could remain a mystery throughout most of the movie.
[b]Flash:[/b] Barry Allen, specifically. Wally's backstory is too complicated for one movie (Barry accidentally re-creating the same accident that made him the Flash around young Wally... oops). Barry had a decent personal life, so he's definitely movie-worthy.
[b]Joker:[/b] That's right. Imagine a movie about the Joker and Harley, with almost no trace of Batman. It could be a movie about dishonor among criminals, and the Joker has to get back at someone who double-crossed him. It would be freaking hilarious.[/size]

[Semjaza]

[QUOTE=Manic]
[b]Spider-Man [#][/b]Okay, why are all of these rumors going around about John Jameson becoming Venom? Seriously. The third movie hasn't even been written yet. I think fans are just a little [i]too[/i] anxious to see Venom in the third movie, realize Eddie hasn't shown up at all in the second movie, and are looking for the closest person to make into Venom. "Hey, Jameson was involved with the black suit in the cartoon, and he's likely to hate Peter in the next movie, and Eddie Brock is nowhere in sight... let's all assume he'll be Venom." I find this logic flawed for the simple fact that it's stupid.

But I mean that in a good way.[/size][/QUOTE]

I beleive Raimi has said that Venom won't be in three at all, even way back. After the third one, I don't think Raimi will even be onboard though. I wouldn't be surprised to see Brock in the films following that. Logically, the next bad guy is the most obvious one heh.

[Doukeshi]

[QUOTE=Manic]note: I'm gonna have to shrink my font to "1" for this one...

[size=1]

[b]DC[/b]
While Marvel has been capitalizing on the movie front, DC has dominated the animated series medium for a few years, now. Since Marvel's late-90s bankrucy, the only series they've made is X-Men Evolution and a CG Spider-Man that MTV cancelled. DC doesn't have many movies on their roster, but with the right writers (ie. people who don't write Superman's comic books), we could be looking at some decent movies. Here's some of my preferences...
[b]Black Canary/Birds of Prey:[/b] Put a woman on a motorcycle and watch her kick some butt. Throw in a nice sound effect for her canary-cry, and we may have something. Meanwhile, the identity of Oracle could remain a mystery throughout most of the movie.
[b]Flash:[/b] Barry Allen, specifically. Wally's backstory is too complicated for one movie (Barry accidentally re-creating the same accident that made him the Flash around young Wally... oops). Barry had a decent personal life, so he's definitely movie-worthy.
[b]Joker:[/b] That's right. Imagine a movie about the Joker and Harley, with almost no trace of Batman. It could be a movie about dishonor among criminals, and the Joker has to get back at someone who double-crossed him. It would be freaking hilarious.[/size][/QUOTE]

I like how you think Manic, seriously these are some great ideas. A Joker movie! What a movie! They should seriously consider that one. I am also glad someone else has got the right idea for a Birds of Prey movie, the fact that Oracle could remain a mystery for most of the movie could really bring out the character. I like it.

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo]They invested too much time to [b]not[/b] have the Green Goblin be the big villain in the third movie. I also think that if they were going to incorporate another super villain into the plot it would be done very tactfully and not on a mass scale like the Green Goblin and Venom. They are not going to make the same mistake that they did with the Batman franchise.

I am looking forward to the next X-men project right now. X-3 has the potential to be a good movie, especially if they kill Halle Berry?s role as Storm. Hopefully that would allow for more open dialogue between Cyclops and Wolverine. I also think that a Sentinel focused plot would benefit this movie a great deal, allowing for just the end of the movie to hint at the Dark Phoenix resurrection. Obviously filming 3 & 4 back to back would be necessary for this type of plot.[/color]

[ColourDeaf]

Personally, I'd like to see a movie based on a "what if," an alternative version of a well known superhero. I feel the best one would be the alternate version of Superman (probably the most well known of all the superheroes) from agraphic novel called "Red Son."

The "what if" is what if Superman had landed on earth as a child about 8 hours later, thus landing him in the heart of russia. Since the original superman landed during the 50's, he would have grown up during the communist regime. His loyalties would be switched, and he would stand for Stalin, International Socialism and the glorious Five-Year Plan.

Of course, it would have no actually hollywood credentials, but it would be a nice, edgy (if somewhat geeky) hypothetical question.

Cheers

ColourDeaf

[Guest lavalamp]

I would kill to see a Captain Planet film. Let me tell you. Anna Nicole Smith could be Linka with Michael Clarke Duncan as Kwame. Box office smash right there.

People need to relax with the Halle Berry criticism. She takes "different" roles and people insult her acting. She's not a bad actress by any stretch of the imagination, especially when compared to other "hot" a-list actresses. People mock her fame and credit her breasts and Swordish for it. I disagree. She has been in 28 movies. How many of those movies have you seen?

Two good examples of where her acting shined in my mind would be Gothika (2003) [many people didn't watch this due to the name but it's a stylish and quality thriller] and The Rich Man's Wife (1996). I really respect her because of the roles she accepts. I like how diverse she is and I appreciate the fact that she wants to put herself in multiple directions.

Please don't call someone's acting bad if you've only seen them in one or two films or in a corny trailer like the one for Catwoman. Yes, she's no Michelle Pfeiffer, but the role is cheesy and I think the script should be blamed instead of Halle Berry. The same goes for Storm in X-Men.

Who else could've really played Storm anyway? Whoopi Goldberg?

[wrist cutter]

Speaking of captains.

I'm surprised they haven't come out with a Captain America movie yet. I mean.. come on. Patriotism is at its peak. He could fight Al Qaeda terrorists as well as other suspicious looking middle-eastern men. Once he helps America win the war on terrorism, Dubya could make a cheesy cameo thanking him.

If the government really wants to persuade young, rebellious teenagers like myself to rally behind their government, a movie like this would be just the thing.

[DeathBug]

[QUOTE=wrist cutter]
I'm surprised they haven't come out with a Captain America movie yet. I mean.. come on. Patriotism is at its peak. He could fight Al Qaeda terrorists as well as other suspicious looking middle-eastern men. Once he helps America win the war on terrorism, Dubya could make a cheesy cameo thanking him.[/QUOTE]
[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]You know, I remember the days when Captain America was fun, and a super hero battling super villians, instead of a depressing and brooding boarderline whose adventures are all 'ripped from the headlines'! Alas.[/color][/size][/dont]

[Guest lavalamp]

[quote name='DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]You know, I remember the days when Captain America was fun, and a super hero battling super villians, instead of a depressing and brooding boarderline whose adventures are all 'ripped from the headlines'! Alas.[/color][/size'][/dont][/quote]

Testament of your amusing typo.

Anyway, Captain America is such a loser. He's the superhero that was never quite popular.

But they made a movie for him in 1991. Joy to the world?

Looking over his biography, I never realized just how much of a loser he was though.

"Real Name: Steve Rogers
Occupation: crimefighter, (former) freelance artist"

Steve Rogers? Freelance artist?

"History: Steve Rogers was born during the Depression and grew up a frail youth in a poor family. His father died when he was a child, his mother when he was in his late teens. Horrified by newsreel footage of the Nazis in Europe, Rogers was inspired to try to enlist in the Army."

Oh god. How did this melodramatic BS excite people?

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE=lava lamp]
Oh god. How did this melodramatic BS excite people?[/QUOTE]

Because they thought he could save us from the Russians.

[DeathBug]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]Yes, I made a typo. What of it?

Captain America used to be a simple character: he wanted to join the Army during WWII, was rejected 'cause he was a wimp, and volunteered for the Super Soldier program. Then he fought Nazis, then got frozen, then thawed, then fought super villains, and communists, and communist super villains.

But we can't have anything simple and easy like that in comics anymore.[/color][/size][/font]

[Guest lavalamp]

I just thought it was funny because you said [/dont] and that's really my feelings regarding another movie for Captain America.

[DeathBug]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]I saw that movie, now that I think about it. I was, like, nine, and even then, I could recognize the horrble-ness-ity in the film. It's just...bad...

Granted, it might be worth checking out for a laugh.[/color][/size][/font]

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

The Cap'n is the only character that I'd really want them to give a "21st century" makeover. Make the suit a bit edgier and more cool, make him non-retarded as far as his origins go, and give him a better villain than Red Skull. It can be done.

I hope something bad happens to Halle Berry and she can't be in X-3 (like maybe somebody assassinates her because of Catwoman or something along those lines). She wants a bigger part... unbelievable. It's clear that she has no respect for X-Men at all. And someone like that shouldn't be in the movies.

As far as Superman Lives (or whatever it's called), I fear it like the plague. First of all, it HAS to be awesome or too many people will try to destroy WB for being disrespectful to the for-some-reason-respected old Superman films. So it probably spells doom for WB's DC film franchise. Secondly, unless something has changed it has the worst director of all time signed up to do it - McG.

EDIT: I don't see McG as listed to be doing the film anymore. Has God (Batman) smiled on the DC universe and gotten rid of this bastard?