Emotional Problems?

[kenshinsbabe]

There are disorders where people are, like, emotionally disturbed and such. Usually, the disorders are caused by deaths in a family or traumatizing news or something like that. But can someone suffer emotional trouble for no reason? Like, they feel lonely all the time and act happy to cover it up, or maybe they're sad all the time as well and act happy so no one suspects them?

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=darkviolet]Yes, it's a form of clinical depression. I think it's caused by some kind of chemical imbalance. At least that's what the doctor told me.

I don't really know how to elaborate about this condition except that if you think you have it mayeb you shoudl tell someone. Yes, they may put you on Paxil or Zoloft, but it's better than being depressed all the time.[/color]

[wrist cutter]

It's also known as being a normal teenager.

[Dan L]

[quote name='wrist cutter']It's also known as being a normal teenager.[/quote]

I never thought teenagers did so much of the hiding it away, in fact they often openly claim "I'm depressed" for some stupid reason or another (don't get me wrong, there are some genuinely depressed teenagers too..)- hence everybody knows teenagers are often like that :p..

Sometimes I reckon the worst thing that happened to teenagers was the discovery, or rather hyping-up of "depression" and "emotional problems". It somehow became cool or normal to be that way.

[Doukeshi]

[QUOTE=Dan L]I never thought teenagers did so much of the hiding it away, in fact they often openly claim "I'm depressed" for some stupid reason or another (don't get me wrong, there are some genuinely depressed teenagers too..)- hence everybody knows teenagers are often like that :p..

Sometimes I reckon the worst thing that happened to teenagers was the discovery, or rather hyping-up of "depression" and "emotional problems". It somehow became cool or normal to be that way.[/QUOTE]


I don't think its cool or normal to be that way at all. Sometimes you feel anything but normal or cool and at times it's really quite excrutiating. If you do feel down, lonely, lacking in energy etc, I don't think its something you should just pass off as "a normal teenage thing", even if it is a normal teenage thing you shouldn't have to feel that way.

It is totally possible to feel depressed without any plausible stimulant, it happens to a lot of people. .

[Dan L]

[quote name='doukeshi03']I don't think its cool or normal to be that way at all..[/quote]

I think a lot of people on OB seem more intelligent than average- or at least, they don't tend to go with what is considered "cool" by the masses.

To be a little more specific than my last post, I was talking more about the masses of teenagers who have a kind of intentional, played-up angsty sort of thing going on. As I said, in some cases it's true. But in a lot of them, they just need to stop whining and get their act together. Life doesn't suck half as much as a load of people make out, but somehow the attitude that it does has become fashionable in some perverse kind of way.

Again, this doesn't necessarily have to apply to everyone, but it certainly seems to apply to a lot. (And as I said, there are some genuine depressed people- often the ones who keep quiet about it to most people)

[Doukeshi]

[quote name='Dan L']this doesn't necessarily have to apply to everyone, but it certainly seems to apply to a lot. (And as I said, there are some genuine depressed people- often the ones who keep quiet about it to most people)[/quote]

Very true, it is often those who keep this emotion bottled up who endure the most pain. I agree with you, some teenagers thrive off the 'angsty' side of life, though it has come to my attention more that society values the peppy and optimistic, shunning those of a more demure and gloomy nature. That being said however, this is not a discussion about the merits of modern teenage culture.

Depression or emotional problems can develop without any outward catalyst to provoke them. Some people often feel guilty because they, unlike others who show symptoms of depression, do not neccessarily have a "reason" to be this way. This would mostly likely only fuel such depression. Depression is not something you can help..nor something you can just ignore in the hopes that it will go away. Talking to loved ones, seeing a doctor, engaging in vibrant social activities, all these help on the path to recovery.


....I'll stop sounding like a BUPA advert now...

[Japan]

[COLOR=Navy]Ever since I moved from Illinois to England I had this depression. The first thing that triggered it was leaving the same town I lived for nine years and moving all the way overseas to an unknown place and world to me. Eventually that depression moved to loneliness from being home schooled, to family troubles, then three years later, moving away from England, the country I've grown to love, to my current home, Washington State.

My friends that I met here finally stopped that depression. I've been depressed non stop for about four to five years. Just because I am over that depression doesn't mean that I don't get depressed anymore.

With that long depression, I was going through a lot. One, I was starting to go through puberty. Two, depression runs in the family, and three my relationship with my family wasn't very good at all.

I do have a reason to depressed a lot of times. I either get made fun of because of the way I am. Everyone in drama ignored me, was mean to me, and treated me like crap.

A guy I like doesn't like me. Or even the fact that I am always the third wheel with some of my friends. These group of friends get mad at me for stupid reasons, and many other things.

I another thing that I tend to do when I'm depressed, or, that makes me depressed is keeping every little thing that bothers me, anything that goes wrong in my life, anything at all, I keep to myself. I bottle everything up.

I also try not to show negative emotions like crying. I just have a blank stare.

With these negative emotions and depressions I have, more than half the time I can't help it...but, the rest of the time, I dunno, I bring it on too myself. I just thrive on the feelings at times. heh

[QUOTE]It's also known as being a normal teenager.[/QUOTE]

haha, not quite. I know plenty of happy optimistic teenagers. Depression just runs in my family, and I've been teased all my life for how I am.

You would be emotionally scarred too if this one girl teased and blamed every bad she did on you when you were only four years old.

I've was depressed and very sad after this one time when I was only eight years old and that same girl blamed something on me to her mom, who was the girl scout leader. Her mom made me sit out of roller skating all night for something I didn't do.

I do believe that you can't help to be depressed or sad. It is not always teen angst, like some have lead to believe. I also think that talking with loved ones help you a lot.


What I don't agree on is that being surrounded by social activities helps you. It may help you when you are lonely, but it doesn't really work for the rest.

I mean, what if people bully you a lot and having people around you makes you feel worse?[/COLOR]

[Black Moon]

[quote name='Japan_86][COLOR=Navy']Ever since I moved from Illinois to England I had this depression.[/COLOR][/quote]
I've live in a very small town in Illinios for all my life, and it's boreing! I would really like to explore the world, but true, I would still always like to be with my "friends".

[B]KNOWING IT:[/B]
As many have said before, you don't always [I]know[/I] you're deprssed, you think it's just a mood you're going through at it will get better. You lock it up and push it in the back of your mind, going on with your normal life, actually being happy at one point or another, but it always comes back and hits you like a ton of bricks.

[B]HARD TO TALK ABOUT:[/B]
It's really hard to talk about your depression with your loved ones, especially if the reason (if you have one) of your depression may affect them, too.

And, [I]yes[/I] this knowledge comes from first-hand experiences, which I have yet to overcome.

[Semjaza]

[quote name='Black Moon']I've live in a very small town in Illinios for all my life, and it's boreing! I would really like to explore the world, but true, I would still always like to be with my "friends"[/quote]

A new Illinois person. Awesome.

Anyway, I thought it was common knowledge that not all forms of depression have to be spurred by exact instances. A good portion of my life I have had random times where I was really down (never suicidal, mind you) or completely out of motivation. Sure, everyone experiences these things sometimes, but there's a point where it is just happening too much and is affecting too many other things.

I got prescribed Zoloft for it actually. It does help. Based on my experience it doesn't magically make you happy or anything, but it really seemed to help me sort out priorities and not worry about trivial things so much.

It's nice. It's like a new kind of freedom, as cheesy as that sounds. I'd visit the doctor, although be careful because a lot of them seem quick to prescribe you crap you don't need. If you don't want the drugs, they'll usually refer you to a counselor as well.

[Black Moon]

[quote name='Semjaza Azazel']A new Illinois person. Awesome.[/quote]
AWESOME?! Well, you're from Chicago, I'm from Chatham. Have you even [I]heard[/I] of Chatham?!

(I doubt you were actually talking to me, but, anyway: )
See, to go to a doctor, I need to tell my Father, therefore, making him uncomfortable. And even if I went to a doctor, I'd choose a shrink... even though the only thing I'd do is talk back to the person.

But I do think anyone who needs help, should get it. Depression is a serious thing.

But don't jump to conclusions if you're thinking about a friend, I have a friend who does thing, like cutting, just to get attention, she may have deeper issuse, but the things she does are to get us to notice her, which she doesn't need because a lot of people notice her, while I, on the other hand, am left waiting for someone to talk to me, which rarely happens.... But I guess that's a good thing since then I'm not disturbed from my arguments in my head XD... which get quiet anoying, but it's fun to yell out "STOP TALKING TO ME!"... but I'm getting off the subject.

[Brasil]

[quote name='wrist cutter']It's also known as being a normal teenager.[/quote]
But the question you have to ask yourself is, can a teenager be normal? Does a normal teenager even exist? I'd agree that "normal" can include angst and depression, but is that only normal? Will teenagers ever know happiness? Will Bob and Jacob ever get married? Will Jacob find out that Mary is having another man's child? Do I sound like a Soap Opera announcer?

[wrist cutter]

[quote name='Black Moon']but the things she does are to get us to notice her, which she doesn't need because a lot of people notice her, while I, on the other hand, am left waiting for someone to talk to me, which rearly happens.[/quote]

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[ChibiHorsewoman]

[quote name='Semjaza Azazel']I got prescribed Zoloft for it actually.[/quote]

[color=darkviolet]I finally got put on Paxil when I was fourteen or so. I keep taking myself off of it though (not good!) and I can't be on it right now because I'm pregnant and I haven't found a regular doctor, I just have the OBGYN.

They tried a few different drugs on me first though, before the Paxil. Thorizine made me fall asleep all the time. And I'm not talking just crash when you get home, I was on the stuff in elementary school and I ended up missing two days of school because I couldn't even make myself stand up to get dressed. It was also bad on my heart and caused me to gain a lot of weight.

I can definately understand how moving from a large city (or even a large town) to a small town can really suck royally. I hated living in Killeen, TX Human population: 7,111. Bovine: 1,000. Okay, so there were more people than cows, but I had no family but Lincoln and it took me a while to make friends. Luckily the friend I made knows what it's like to be depressed a lot so we got along pretty well. It helped a bit, but I also got put back on Paxil becuase some of the Military doctors actually do more than give out Motrin (you'd have to be military to get the joke).

Depression isn't a 'normal teenage thing'. There are pleanty of teenagers who are either just moody or really really happy all the time. I'd definately suggest looking into getting some help if you constantly feel lonely, disinterested in everything or just blah in every single way. In fact, I suggest that to women who have just had babies because that's post partem depression.

That's really all I have to add on the subject[/color]

[Sara]

[size=1]I agree with wrist cutter. You can tell me that being depressed isn't [i]normal[/i], and perhaps you're right. That entails a tedious discussion of what the word normal entails, and I'm not up for it. I think, though, we can at least establish that it's something the average teen goes through.

[quote name='Black Moon][size=1']But don't jump to conclusions if you're thinking about a friend, I have a friend who does thing, like cutting, just to get attention, she may have deeper issuse, but the things she does are to get us to notice her, which she doesn't need because a lot of people notice her, while I, on the other hand, am left waiting for someone to talk to me, which rarely happens.[/size][/quote]

.....

You're saying that because she only hurts herself in order to get attention, she doesn't really have a problem?

That sounds like a rather dangerous frame of mind to be in.

As for people not talking to you...be proactive, kittling. You'll go far. You might want to start by talking to your troubled friend...hit two birds with one stone, as it were.[/size]

[Doukeshi]

Yeah, I think teenage depression has a lot to do with the mental stresses of growing up, going through puberty etc. I'm not saying that its something to be taken lightly, 'cause its not. It's something people have to deal with together. For most people it will pass...for the select few, however, it's a tad more complicated.

[Dan L]

[quote name='Lore][size=1]As for people not talking to you...be [size=3][b]proactive[/b][/size'], kittling. You'll go far. You might want to start by talking to your troubled friend...hit two birds with one stone, as it were.[/size][/quote]

*Proactive sensor goes off*

BINGO!

That's the exact same word I was going to use in reference to that comment...

Then again I've heard it so many times this last year, it's practically been engraved onto my memory for life...

[Black Moon]

[quote name='Black Moon]But don't jump to conclusions if you're thinking about a friend, I have a friend who does thing, like cutting, just to get attention, [SIZE=2][B]she may have deeper issuse[/B][/SIZE'], but the things she does are to get us to notice her, which she doesn't need because a lot of people notice her, while I, on the other hand, am left waiting for someone to talk to me, which rarely happens....[/quote]

I didn't say that she didn't have anything wrong with her life, I have be friends with her since we were two, and I know that her parents smoke excessivly. But you can tel by the cuts if they were meant to do harm to herself or just to get people to look at her.


And it's not that I haven't tried, but my friends have so many other freakin' freinds it's hard to get time to talk. Of course, it's probably all my fault (not said sarcasticlly) because I don't address my problems, but I'll take your advice on talking to her. I mean, she talks to me a lot about this stuff, she usually comes to me to ask about her hard life... which kind of dumps an emotional load on me, but I help her anyway. But I'll tell her about my problem then maybe she'll tell me about hers.

[Dan L]

[quote name='Black Moon']I didn't say that she didn't have anything wrong with her life, I have be friends with her since we were two, and I know that her parents smoke excessivly. But you can tel by the cuts if they were meant to do harm to herself or just to get people to look at her.[/quote]

What you said was, "she may have deeper issues, [b]but[/b] the things she does are to get us to notice her".

Though you openly said that there may well be an issue there, what you [i]also[/i] said was effectively that the evidence for there being an issue is only really there to draw attention, not because of any issue.

So although on one hand you said she may have issues, you also effectively said that they're nothing to do with the cutting. That is what was being disputed, not whether or not you actually said there may have been an issue. And I'd agree completely with the thought that actually, cutting yourself for attention is as big an issue as any.