Gaming Reasons to buy X-Box

[Pave-Low]

Here are some plain and simply ones:

The 2 Matrix games will be exclusivly for X-Box.
We will see Max Payne on X-Box
Built in Harddrive
Up and playing game in less then 8 seconds.
Blending of computer exclusive game market with console exclusive market.
Controller is best ever.
HALO
Microsoft will do whatever they can to top the others so hopefully that will be a good thing.

Well you can agrea or disagrea, but my mind is made up I am buying X-box over PS2 and definetly over Gamecube/

[Transtic Nerve]

Reason's not to buy X-Box

-It's made by Microsoft... which is a dead give away it'll suck

[RicoTranzrig]

[COLOR=darkblue]The only thing I don't like about the X-Box are the lengthy load times and the slow FPS. They got Halo clocked at 16FPS. Hmmm a video game console that's not made by the Japanese, this I've gotta see... again.[/COLOR]

[Posthumous]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]Reason's not to buy X-Box

-It's made by Microsoft... which is a dead give away it'll suck [/B][/QUOTE]

(laugh) (big laugh) hahahaha!!!!

[NeoCactuar]

I hate the controllers, they are so awkward and the big X in the middle doesn't help.

[Kittie]

x-box does not suck...microsoft or not TN!!!!:p

i hate the controller it's too big or perhaps my hands too small...anyhoo i don't like it!!

but i'm glad i have it!!!:D

*give me smile and shine days* :love: :babble:

[Posthumous]

The GCN controllers are wayyyyyyyyyy better.nice and small.

[RicoTranzrig]

...the X-Box's controller's aren't that uncomfortable...but they are BIG! So I have to look down most of the time to see what buttons I'm pressing...but I'll eventually get used to it.

Another reason to buy X-Box?...ability to rip music CD's to hard drive...CD-R/RW drive to make music CD's from stored songs. Plus built in network adapters so you don't have to worry about buing a modem when the online service actually becomes avalible.

[Sephiroth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Pave-Low [/i]
[B]Here are some plain and simply ones:

We will see Max Payne on X-Box
Built in Harddrive
Up and playing game in less then 8 seconds.
Controller is best ever.
HALO
Microsoft will do whatever they can to top the others so hopefully that will be a good thing.

Well you can agrea or disagrea, but my mind is made up I am buying X-box over PS2 and definetly over Gamecube/ [/B][/QUOTE]

so? max payne is also on pc and ps2....

so? nothing special about it, apart from saving games on it, you will have to buy a memory card eventually when you run out of space....

so? there are ps2 and gc games in which you play in less than 8 seconds....

controller sucks, too big, not very comfortable....

I hear from many people that halo is pretty bland, and overhyped....

more like, microsoft will do whatever possible to make a profit, rather than quality games, which I think we will definately see in future....

and no, I don't hate xbox, I plan on buying one....

[RicoTranzrig]

Halo is a really good game...my friend has it and I go to his house sometimes to play 4 player games. It's nice and fast. It's just the controls...I never play first person shooters on controller...it's confusing...especially with a controller I'm not familar with.

I'm just going to wait until its internet service comes out...

[coolkam007]

.. i think its like a 10 gig harddrive .. -.- i cant remember the exact stats.. but i think its 10.. anywho.. the hard drive will be used to store music files from CD's so you can make your on game tracks.. so you can listen to differnet songs while playing different games...

and most memory cards are about.. 5-20mbs.. ... .. xbox has 10 gigs of free space.. if you run out of that... well i'll be darned.. lol.. but yes, they do make memory cards..

Xbox's innitial load time may take a little while (few seconds.. ) but when the level is in its cash(sp?) it will load fairly fast.. unfortunately this also takes away from your availible save space on the harddrive..

the controller is slightly large but indeed it is comfortable, one of the most comfortable controllers i'v ever had my hands on..

halo wil be an awesome game :) .. but i'm looking forward to project ego :D

i'd like to have a ps2 and gamecube though (i'll probably end up getting those first.. just because of FFX.. and gamecube because of my GBA)

[Guest]

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Well I want an X-Box mostly for the Games. Except it is 299.99 bucks and doesn't have many games it still is a great system. On the other hand I will probably get a Gamecube for Christmas because it is cheaper and has Pikmin and Super Mario Brothers Melee. :D

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[VP-Master]

I'm not against X Box but I really don't want one. I don't like the controller and of the 3, personally I like the ps2 one the best but that's just me. I do agree that Microsoft will do whatever they can to top the others because they can't create a monopoly as easily as they did with their software but whether their doing this more for profits or for quality remains to be seen. X Box is fine and dandy and thier Halo is a very good game (highly addictive) but GC and PS2 might prove to be better, but then again, that also remains to be seen. ;)

[Vegitto4]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]Reason's not to buy X-Box

-It's made by Microsoft... which is a dead give away it'll suck [/B][/QUOTE]

I will agree with you TN. I will either stick with my pc, or go and get a ps2 eventually

[Charles]

I don't know why everyone hates Microsoft. They're a successful company for a reason. That reason is that they know how to do business. Xbox won't suck because it doesn't have a mouth. Seriously though, it's not up to Microsoft whether it's a success, it's up to the people.

Anyway, Max Payne is a lot better on the box than on PS2, so that's a sure fire sign of things to come. Even Nascaar Thunder is superior. RAW simply crushes SmackDown graphically, granted that's an unfair comparison though, seeing as how they're developed by totally different teams....

[RicoTranzrig]

Compared with the 3 systems...X-Box does seem the most powerful of the bunch...has a good amount of features and a promising game library...now that it's out, it's hard to say that it's not good...I'm looking forward to it's potential in the field of online play...

[Fall]

I usually only buy systems if they take the country buy storm.......

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i]
[B]

I will agree with you TN. I will either stick with my pc, or go and get a ps2 eventually [/B][/QUOTE]

Just thought I'd say good choice for not picking up an Xbox because of Microsoft, I mean who can trust 'em? You're better off sticking with your PC, that is most likely run by a Microsoft Windows operating system, or has Microsoft Internet Explorer on it.

[Will2x]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
[B]

Just thought I'd say good choice for not picking up an Xbox because of Microsoft, I mean who can trust 'em? You're better off sticking with your PC, that is most likely run by a Microsoft Windows operating system, or has Microsoft Internet Explorer on it. [/B][/QUOTE]

lol. :all:

thats funny.

but i think microsoft is cool and i think its awesome that a normal guy like Bill Gates couldve jus made alot of the money. ok well more than alot...like billions, or is he to the trillions now?. anywat, knowing that he could do it i know theres a chance i can to and that gives me hope. :2women:

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
[B]I don't know why everyone hates Microsoft. They're a successful company for a reason. That reason is that they know how to do business. Xbox won't suck because it doesn't have a mouth. Seriously though, it's not up to Microsoft whether it's a success, it's up to the people.

Anyway, Max Payne is a lot better on the box than on PS2, so that's a sure fire sign of things to come. Even Nascaar Thunder is superior. RAW simply crushes SmackDown graphically, granted that's an unfair comparison though, seeing as how they're developed by totally different teams.... [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=orangered][size=1]I plan to purchase an Xbox at the end of next year (or early 2003, when the price drops).

One of the biggest problems I have with the console, and the reason why I feel it is the weakest of the three next gen machines, is simply the philosophy of design behind it.

Let's face it, Xbox (and even PS2 to some extent), are not [b]game machines[/b].

Do I want to rip CDs to make MP3? Sure, I'll use my PC.

Do I want to surf the 'net? Sure, I'll use my PC.

Do I want to watch DVD movies? Sure, I'll use my DVD player.

My point is, moving into this cloudy area of product positioning is very dangerous for Microsoft and also for Sony.

When Sonly launched PS2, the highest selling piece of software for the machine was The Matrix movie...and not any games. This left Sony open to competition from areas outside the game industry and effectively diluted the PS2's legitimacy as a game machine.

Moreover, if a particular product can perform a number of functions at once, it is most likely, by very definition, that it will do all of those functions very well...but not as well as a machine which is designed specifically for one function (ie: GameCube and game playing).

What I'm saying here is kind of above the whole "who's games are better" argument, in the sense that it deals more closely with the business aspect of things.

But my biggest worry is probably that Xbox demonstrates absolutely no innovation in terms of software. I am happy that Microsoft wanted to make a powerful system so that developers could express their creative visions, problem is...developers aren't expressing anything but fairly played-out, cliched game ideas.

I would say though that all is definitely not lost. Halo was a very good (if not slightly bland) first person shooter -- probably the best FPS on console to date. And Dead or Alive 3 was gorgeous, though it represented exactly zero innovation in terms of gameplay.

Every one of the next gen consoles can produce beautiful graphics which are very comparable to each other. Graphics simply isn't part of the argument.

It comes down to the games. And so far, Xbox is drastically trailing both PS2 and GameCube in terms of innovation and game quality.

I personally hope that this changes over 2002 (and to some extent it will), because I want the Xbox to have a chance to make the industry as a whole grow larger, so that more companies can become involved and share their game creations.

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[Will2x]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B]

[color=orangered][size=1]I plan to purchase an Xbox at the end of next year (or early 2003, when the price drops).

One of the biggest problems I have with the console, and the reason why I feel it is the weakest of the three next gen machines, is simply the philosophy of design behind it.

Let's face it, Xbox (and even PS2 to some extent), are not [b]game machines[/b]. {actually they are, do they not play games, were they not built for hardcore gaming?}

Do I want to rip CDs to make MP3? Sure, I'll use my PC. {not everyone has a pc or mp3 player, or probly cannot afford a pc or something and this is why this is good.}

Do I want to surf the 'net? Sure, I'll use my PC.{ not everyone has a pc}

Do I want to watch DVD movies? Sure, I'll use my DVD player.{before ps2 i didnt have a dvd player of my own, thanks to sonys bright idea i now have one}

My point is, moving into this cloudy area of product positioning is very dangerous for Microsoft and also for Sony.{it only gets better, not dangerous, they are making lots of money}

When Sonly launched PS2, the highest selling piece of software for the machine was The Matrix movie...and not any games. This left Sony open to competition from areas outside the game industry and effectively diluted the PS2's legitimacy as a game machine.

Moreover, if a particular product can perform a number of functions at once, it is most likely, by very definition, that it will do all of those functions very well...but not as well as a machine which is designed specifically for one function (ie: GameCube and game playing). {that is not true, it actually depends on the power of the system to do this functions, for example dreamcast doesnt have anything other than cd and ps2 has cd and dvd but ps2 is better. just because gamecube only plays game doesnt mean thats the best thing it can do, it just means its the only thing it can do}

What I'm saying here is kind of above the whole "who's games are better" argument, in the sense that it deals more closely with the business aspect of things.

But my biggest worry is probably that Xbox demonstrates absolutely no innovation in terms of software{are you high?}. I am happy that Microsoft wanted to make a powerful system so that developers could express their creative visions, problem is...developers aren't expressing anything but fairly played-out, cliched game ideas.{developers are very impressed with the xbox and are amazed}

I would say though that all is definitely not lost. Halo was a very good (if not slightly bland) first person shooter -- probably the best FPS on console to date. And Dead or Alive 3 was gorgeous, though it represented exactly zero innovation in terms of gameplay.

Every one of the next gen consoles can produce beautiful graphics which are very comparable to each other. Graphics simply isn't part of the argument.{if your saying graphics do not matter than you are wrong, it makes up into a complete system, graphics have a very important role. games like ff7- wouldnt be able to do alot of things if it had gameboy graphics}

It comes down to the games. And so far, Xbox is drastically trailing both PS2 and GameCube in terms of innovation and game quality.

I personally hope that this changes over 2002 (and to some extent it will), because I want the Xbox to have a chance to make the industry as a whole grow larger, so that more companies can become involved and share their game creations.{and it will}

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ok i fixed your post! read it

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Will2x [/i]
[B]

ok i fixed your post! read it [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=orangered][size=1]I'd have preferred if you'd answered each quote seperately, rather than editing a quote.

This makes it difficult for me to reply to specific points.

But most of the edits you made were totally incorrect.

The Xbox games shown thusfar feature exactly [i]zero[/i] innovation. This doesn't mean that they never will -- there are quite a few games on the horizon which I'm looking foward to. I was just talking specifically about the current situation.

As for all the other stuff, you were very wrong there.

Microsoft is making no money from Xbox right now. So I don't know how you can say that they're making a lot of money.

Infact, Microsoft will be making losses on Xbox until around 2004/2005.

Will, if you want to have a serious discussion, you need to do two things.

1. Reply to each paragraph or each point seperately, rather than editing an entire quote. This makes it incredibly difficult to accurately reply.

2. Get your facts right. I'm sick of fanboys like you making up facts and throwing them out on the table. Nothing about my post was fanboyish -- I was stating cold, hard facts. Those facts might be negative, but as I said, I was talking about the current situation.

People defend the Xbox (or GameCube or PS2) simply because they own them. But in actual fact, they aren't necessarily qualified to argue certain points. Either they don't know the facts, or they hide the facts to further their own viewpoint.

I will [i]not[/i] tolerate this fanboy crap. If you want to debate the issue, please make it easier for a discussion to be made.[/color][/size]

[Vegitto4]

YEAH, WHAT HE SAID!!!:lecture: :genius:

[Will2x]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B]

[color=orangered][size=1]I'd have preferred if you'd answered each quote seperately, rather than editing a quote.

This makes it difficult for me to reply to specific points.

But most of the edits you made were totally incorrect.

The Xbox games shown thusfar feature exactly [i]zero[/i] innovation. This doesn't mean that they never will -- there are quite a few games on the horizon which I'm looking foward to. I was just talking specifically about the current situation.

As for all the other stuff, you were very wrong there.

Microsoft is making no money from Xbox right now. So I don't know how you can say that they're making a lot of money.

Infact, Microsoft will be making losses on Xbox until around 2004/2005.

Will, if you want to have a serious discussion, you need to do two things.

1. Reply to each paragraph or each point seperately, rather than editing an entire quote. This makes it incredibly difficult to accurately reply.

2. Get your facts right. I'm sick of fanboys like you making up facts and throwing them out on the table. Nothing about my post was fanboyish -- I was stating cold, hard facts. Those facts might be negative, but as I said, I was talking about the current situation.

People defend the Xbox (or GameCube or PS2) simply because they own them. But in actual fact, they aren't necessarily qualified to argue certain points. Either they don't know the facts, or they hide the facts to further their own viewpoint.

I will [i]not[/i] tolerate this fanboy crap. If you want to debate the issue, please make it easier for a discussion to be made.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

arent you even gonna actually respond to what i said, all your basically saying in this post is that "i hate fan boys, your a fan boy, your post is wrong, your wrong" wtf is this? YOU ONLY ANSWERED TWO THING. no i dont own a xbox, but ive been reading alot of magizines,websites, talked with people about there xbox and ive played it and examined it for myself. but no i am not a fanboy, the only one who seems to be a fanboy is you yourself and one more thing sony IS making alot of money of psx, and thats what i meant. it seems you are scared of answer any real answers and cant accept that you are wrong so i guess i wont bother trying to tell you, it seems you are in denile...

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Will2x [/i]
[B]

arent you even gonna actually respond to what i said, all your basically saying in this post is that "i hate fan boys, your a fan boy, your post is wrong, your wrong" wtf is this? YOU ONLY ANSWERED TWO THING. no i dont own a xbox, but ive been reading alot of magizines,websites, talked with people about there xbox and ive played it and examined it for myself. but no i am not a fanboy, the only one who seems to be a fanboy is you yourself and one more thing sony IS making alot of money of psx, and thats what i meant. it seems you are scared of answer any real answers and cant accept that you are wrong so i guess i wont bother trying to tell you, it seems you are in denile... [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=orangered][size=1]What makes a fanboy?

A fanboy is someone who blindly follows a product without having any facts to back up their belief.

That makes you a fanboy.

I couldn't answer all of your comments simply because you didn't make out a seperate post...instead, you edited a quote. I didn't have the time to go through and pick out little parts.

If you want to restate your opinions in a post though, I'd be more than happy to respond.

Your post indicated that Microsoft was making lots of money with Xbox. You said nothing specific of PlayStation.

I write for a gaming magazine. It's my [b]job[/b] to know the industry. What I say may not be to your tastes, but it's the truth. I am speaking totally objectively: I am quite prepared to point out the faults of any company, whether it be Microsoft with its philosophies behind Xbox, or Nintendo with its constant unwillingness to embrace the third party scene.

Take your pick. I can comment objectively about anything related to gaming.

The fact is, I'm not scared of answering anything you have to say because I know that I can be 100% objective.

But you, like many on these boards (Nintendo and MS fans alike), are unable to accept objective facts.

Aside from that, I don't care which console you prefer. It's totally fine to prefer Xbox to GameCube, however, when you go around stating facts which you claim are objective...make SURE that they are correct.

If I am stating my opinion, I will say so. But if I'm stating an objective fact, I gurantee that I can back it up with information every single time.

I urge you to do the same, otherwise it's totally pointless to debate if you either can't be objective or can't face facts.[/color][/size]