Too much unnessery deleting

[Guest Yami_Bijou]

The admins keeps deleted topics that don't need to be deleted, for example, they deleted one topic about that some one made asking "Who has the weirdest hair style in anime" in the anime sections. i say that makes perfectly good sence, I mean, it has to do with anime, and it's true, a lot of anime charaters have wierd hair, take Goku and Yugi for example. then I made a topic about me liking an anime, and that was deleted, THAT WAS ANIME REALATED. So, basiclly, you admins are too delete-happy.:flaming:

[Dagger]

I'm not an administrator, I'm a moderator. And I didn't delete either of those threads; I locked them. ;)

The person who posted the hair thread (he also created what has been a rather successful "best weapon" thread) PMed me, saying--

[quote]Yeah, well hair in anime is pretty damn cool topic. It was even a question in Animerica, which attracted many results. Maybe you don't have the same opinion, but that's no reason for closing the thread.[/quote]
I replied--

[quote]Good for Animerica. Unfortunately, this is a message board and not a magazine. I can't vet responses in the same way as the editors of the aforementioned publication would have to (well, I can, but frankly I'd rather not).

Basically what it boils down to is that weapons generally have some relationship to characters' actions, the outcomes of various fights, etc. Hair... usually doesn't have a bearing on anything except someone's relative hotness or lack thereof. Because of this, the only decent responses your hair thread could attract would be ones that a) described a specific character's hair and the attributes which make it weird, or b) talked about what qualities contribute to hair-related weirdness.

Simply put, the vast majority of people aren't going to spend much time or thought on discussing hair. You're welcome to disagree with this if you will, but in my experience threads about aesthetic things ("Who's the best-looking bishounen?" "Which character has the coolest eyes?") degenerate no matter how well they start off. If you'd like a second opinion, try PMing Solo--it's late at night and I may have been less coherent than I had hoped.[/quote]
That was my reasoning, for whatever it's worth.

~Dagger~

[Guest Yami_Bijou]

[QUOTE=Dagger IX1]I'm not an administrator, I'm a moderator. And I didn't delete either of those threads--I locked them. ;)

The person who posted the hair thread (who also created what has been a rahter successful "best weapon" thread PMed me, saying, "Yeah, well hair in anime is pretty damn cool topic. It was even a question in Animerica, which attracted many results. Maybe you don't have the same opinion, but that's no reason for closing the thread."

I replied: "Good for Animerica. Unfortunately, this is a message board and not a magazine. I can't vet responses in the same way as the editors of the aforementioned publication would have to (well, I can, but frankly I'd rather not).

Basically what it boils down to is that weapons generally have some relationship to characters' actions, the outcomes of various fights, etc. Hair... usually doesn't have a bearing on anything except someone's relative hotness or lack thereof. Because of this, the only decent responses your hair thread could attract would be ones that a) described a specific character's hair and the attributes which make it weird, or b) talked about what qualities contribute to hair-related weirdness.

Simply put, the vast majority of people aren't going to spend much time or thought on discussing hair. You're welcome to disagree with this if you will, but in my experience threads about aesthetic things ("Who's the best-looking bishounen?" "Which character has the coolest eyes?") degenerate no matter how well they start off. If you'd like a second opinion, try PMing Solo--it's late at night and I may have been less coherent than I had hoped."

~Dagger~[/QUOTE]
You still didn't need to lock those topics, you can't be a control freak.:flaming:

[Guest Yami_Bijou]

[QUOTE=Dagger IX1]I'm not an administrator, I'm a moderator. And I didn't delete either of those threads--I locked them. ;)

The person who posted the hair thread (who also created what has been a rahter successful "best weapon" thread PMed me, saying, "Yeah, well hair in anime is pretty damn cool topic. It was even a question in Animerica, which attracted many results. Maybe you don't have the same opinion, but that's no reason for closing the thread."

I replied: "Good for Animerica. Unfortunately, this is a message board and not a magazine. I can't vet responses in the same way as the editors of the aforementioned publication would have to (well, I can, but frankly I'd rather not).

Basically what it boils down to is that weapons generally have some relationship to characters' actions, the outcomes of various fights, etc. Hair... usually doesn't have a bearing on anything except someone's relative hotness or lack thereof. Because of this, the only decent responses your hair thread could attract would be ones that a) described a specific character's hair and the attributes which make it weird, or b) talked about what qualities contribute to hair-related weirdness.

Simply put, the vast majority of people aren't going to spend much time or thought on discussing hair. You're welcome to disagree with this if you will, but in my experience threads about aesthetic things ("Who's the best-looking bishounen?" "Which character has the coolest eyes?") degenerate no matter how well they start off. If you'd like a second opinion, try PMing Solo--it's late at night and I may have been less coherent than I had hoped."

~Dagger~[/QUOTE]You're a bastard....T_T

I mean, it's STILL anime related, just because it doesn't interestes YOU, doesn't mean to delete it. You suck.

[Skye]

[quote name='Dagger IX1']Hair... usually doesn't have a bearing on anything except someone's relative hotness or lack thereof.[/quote]

[color=orange][size=1][font=veranda]>< Actually, Dagger, in anime hair does have more significance than that. Like: people with lighter colored hair (usually white) tend to be the evilest of them all. Halfway, I agree with Yami; if people want to talk about anime and manga character?s hairstyles, let them. I mean, if its interesting to them, why stop them? Its keeping them from screwing up other topics (such as this one).

BTW: I may sound like a mod(LOL), but Yami, no double posting. If you had more to say go back and edit.

Besides, Dagger, look on the bright side: now you know something else about anime hair. ^_^ I do agree with Dagger, though. My advice is(though I?m not a mod; I just like to contribute) don?t use such a broad topic. With the hair, for instance; something like, How hard is it to draw this style of hair, or, How can you shade black hair, or something.

I?m done rambling now. *hands out nachos*[/color][/font][/size]

[Dagger]

[QUOTE=Delirium][color=orange][size=1][font=veranda]>< Actually, Dagger, in anime hair does have more significance than that. Like: people with lighter colored hair (usually white) tend to be the evilest of them all. Halfway, I agree with Yami; if people want to talk about anime and manga character?s hairstyles, let them. I mean, if its interesting to them, why stop them? Its keeping them from screwing up other topics (such as this one).

BTW: I may sound like a mod(LOL), but Yami, no double posting. If you had more to say go back and edit.

Besides, Dagger, look on the bright side: now you know something else about anime hair. ^_^ I do agree with Dagger, though. My advice is(though I?m not a mod; I just like to contribute) don?t use such a broad topic. With the hair, for instance; something like, How hard is it to draw this style of hair, or, How can you shade black hair, or something.

I?m done rambling now. *hands out nachos*[/color][/font][/size][/QUOTE]

Both of the variations you listed would in all likelihood have to be transferred to the Art Studio, but they [i]are[/i] excellent topics in and of themselves.

Anyway, back to your first point. While I would have loved to talk about whether or not hair color (and perhaps by extension, other seemingly random superficial attributes) can be said to consistently and accurately reflect characters' personalities... the thread we're discussing did not pose that question, and in fact left little room for any kind of broader debate.

~Dagger~

[Ezekiel]

[COLOR=SlateGray]I actually can't believe someone even had that guts to start a topic like this off >_>

I totally agree with Dagger on this one, guys. I mean, I know the question is reasonable, but like the mods always say, it's not a question that could spark conversation, I mean, imagine the situation if you were in real life.

'So, who has the coolest hair in anime?'
'Eeer, guess it would be....Goku, why?'
'Oh, just asking'

Sure, you can give an answer, but after you say 'it's cool ?cos it changes colour' there isn't much else you can do to expand on the reply, now is there? Unless you're a beautician or something ;)

So yeah, I'm behind Dagger with this one, and remember, Yami, the mods are here for a reason and they were made to be mods because they are good at their job. I wouldn?t go around insulting them when they work hard to keep this board up to standards.

Edit: By the way, you double posted, the mods might have to delete one of them :p [/COLOR]

[Solo Tremaine]

[QUOTE=Yami_Bijou]You're a bastard....T_T

I mean, it's STILL anime related, just because it doesn't interestes YOU, doesn't mean to delete it. You suck.[/QUOTE][color=#503f86]It's a thread on a forum. Why are you getting so personal about something that really doesn't matter anyway? I take great offense at you calling Dagger a bastard- she works incredibly hard to keep the Anime Forum free of spam and I don't think you appreciate the huge amount of decisions like this we have to make every day.

These threads have been around since even before we were moderators, but because we've been around for some time we can judge well enough how they're going to turn out. They travel along exactly the same lines as "What is your favourite character" threads, which more often than not end up being closed in the end anyway because people don't put effort into their posts and simply use one-liners or just use it as an excuse to post poorly. Since the question itself is so simple it doesn't become a discussion- it becomes a series of posts unrelated to each other: boring and stagnant.

Having looked at the thread in question, I noticed this:[/color]

[QUOTE]Personally, I think it's Vegeta. His hair is crazy, lol![/QUOTE][color=#503f86]Whilst there was more to this post and despite being the one who asked the question in the first place, this was all the member had to say on the to the topic. If someone posted that on its own as a new reply in the topic, it would count as spam because it's too short. A whole topic like that would generate dozens of these and it simply isn't worth having around for people to spam in. Besides, how exactly can you go into vast detail about how crazy an anime hairstyle is?[/color]

[color=#503f86]I fully support Dagger's decision, and if you do have a personal problem with something like this it's more polite and sensible to PM the person involved rather than publicly flame them. I know it's what I would appreciate. Not to mention flaming is against the Rules anyway and could make you liable to have your account banned. Then you wouldn't be able to post in any threads at all, about anime hair or otherwise.[/color]

[James]

[color=#707875]I think this has been explained in a pretty thorough way. Yami, it's one thing to have a disagreement...it's another to start flaming people. Obviously you never read the rules page, which is required reading for all new members.[/color]

[Sol-Blade]

Better yet, watch this: [url=http://users.adelphia.net/~kamel/Posting.html]Posting and You[/url]

This should pretty much cover the basics. [I]Especially[/I] why threads get locked down. This is mostly common sense. Use it.

[CENTER][I][B]It is always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one![/B][/I][/CENTER]
[CENTER]~Best part of the video :D.[/CENTER]

[lavonia]

I do agree that the moderation on the board seems a little tight at times. I've been rebuked for speaking in too short of sentences, even though it was quoted "that I have worthwhile things to say". Too me this doesn't make a lot of sense. However, rules are rules. I respect that.

However,a key point coming from a grownup (somewhat grownup anyway). It's life. Life suxs sometimes.

[James]

[color=#707875]Well, I can tell you, grown-up to grown-up, that clear use of English and relevant comments are always worthwhile; whether here at OtakuBoards or elsewhere.

The cool thing about OB is that it's entirely optional. Those who want a high quality discussion environment can come here and those who want to have a slightly more lax environment can go elsewhere. There are thousands of options on the Internet, so that is never a problem.[/color]

[Delta]

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[b]On the "Vegeta's hair is crazy. lol" quote:[/b]
A few times I've refrained from posting in threads because I feel that I should post something that contributes to the discussion. I imagine that all who read the above post will either have a thousand "why?"s in their heads or just a large sweatdrop on the side of their faces. erhm... LOL.

[b]On the thread-locking issue:[/b]
I saw this thread in question and was really interested in the way it would turn out. Maybe it could've formulated a new anime theory like "Girls with wavy hair tend to be the damsels in distress because ____." But it didn't. I think the "lock-down" (or what ever is the proper term XD) was partly the fault of those who posted in the thread. Spam attracts spam, thus the issue of hair being a kind of archetype-indicator or something that says "meaningful topic" wasn't tackled. Maybe that could've saved the thread.

[b]On the "Dagger is a bastard" statement:[/b]
Out of the 11,190 ([i] figure courtesy of the ever-dependable member counter[/i])members to choose from, they picked her to be moderator. Which I think means that she's highly-qualified to become one. She wasn't being a bastard at that time, she was just doing her job.


Love and Peace! :love2:
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[Billy Shears]

[quote name='Yami_Bijou']The admins keeps deleted topics that don't need to be deleted, for example, they deleted one topic about that some one made asking "Who has the weirdest hair style in anime" in the anime sections. i say that makes perfectly good sence, I mean, it has to do with anime, and it's true, a lot of anime charaters have wierd hair, take Goku and Yugi for example. then I made a topic about me liking an anime, and that was deleted, THAT WAS ANIME REALATED. So, basiclly, you admins are too delete-happy.:flaming:[/quote]

Not to be all mod-y, your post probably A) Was a different thread already, B) Had no possible way of conducting a civil conversation (I once saw "i lik anime AlOt!" or something to that extent) or C) started off with a horrible sentence with no grammar or punctuation. The mods, 75% of the time warn the thread starter for their grammar/spelling/punctuation, but if the person is a repeted offender, they get sick of looking at crappy threads and just close them. And all of it is in the Rules, too. And calling a mod a "bastard" and telling them they suck will

[quote name='James][COLOR=Silver']...land you a one-way ticket to banville.[/COLOR][/quote]

[Billy Shears]

[quote name='Yami_Bijou']The admins keeps deleted topics that don't need to be deleted, for example, they deleted one topic about that some one made asking "Who has the weirdest hair style in anime" in the anime sections. i say that makes perfectly good sence, I mean, it has to do with anime, and it's true, a lot of anime charaters have wierd hair, take Goku and Yugi for example. then I made a topic about me liking an anime, and that was deleted, THAT WAS ANIME REALATED. So, basiclly, you admins are too delete-happy.:flaming:[/quote]

Not to be all mod-y, your post probably A) Was a different thread already, B) Had no possible way of conducting a civil conversation (I once saw "i lik anime AlOt!" or something to that extent) or C) started off with a horrible sentence with no grammar or punctuation. The mods, 75% of the time warn the thread starter for their grammar/spelling/punctuation, but if the person is a repeted offender, they get sick of looking at crappy threads and just close them. And all of it is in the Rules, too. And calling a mod a "bastard" and telling them they suck will

[quote name='James']...land you a one-way ticket to banville.[/quote]

[Billy Shears]

[quote name='Yami_Bijou']The admins keeps deleted topics that don't need to be deleted, for example, they deleted one topic about that some one made asking "Who has the weirdest hair style in anime" in the anime sections. i say that makes perfectly good sence, I mean, it has to do with anime, and it's true, a lot of anime charaters have wierd hair, take Goku and Yugi for example. then I made a topic about me liking an anime, and that was deleted, THAT WAS ANIME REALATED. So, basiclly, you admins are too delete-happy.:flaming:[/quote]

Not to be all mod-y, your post probably A) Was a different thread already, B) Had no possible way of conducting a civil conversation (I once saw "i lik anime AlOt!" or something to that extent) or C) started off with a horrible sentence with no grammar or punctuation. The mods, 75% of the time warn the thread starter for their grammar/spelling/punctuation, but if the person is a repeted offender, they get sick of looking at crappy threads and just close them. And all of it is in the Rules (over on the left.

<<<----Thata way

And calling a mod a "bastard" and telling them they suck will

[QUOTE]...land you a one-way ticket to banville.[/QUOTE]

[Charles]

The situation has been explained sufficiently. The fact that Dagger and other moderators are willing to take the time to fully explain and justify their reasoning demonstrates not only their respect for the membership in general but also the serious amount of thought they put into their decisions. There's nothing arbitrary in their actions; precedence and experience are often motives.

Bearing that in mind, it's not only against the rules to attack other members in general--but to blatantly disrespect a staff member who has taken the time and effort not only to correct your mistake but to explain it to you thoroughly--that's not cool. No one is forcing you to agree with Dagger and her moderation methods but it's only appropriate that you should show some courtesy and acknowledge the attention you've been shown, Yami.

You should definitely private message Dagger with an apology. That is, if you've got any character to you at all.

Edit: Haha it seems that my perceptiveness has been dulled after being away from here so much. I hadn't realized how old the original posts were. Oh well, an apology would be better late than never if it has not already taken place.