Meggido Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I've recently become acquainted with what some people call Gothic Music and I think its awesome. Bands that I have heard are Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Therion and After Forever. I was wondering if anyone could suggest any other good Gothic bands I should look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Theory Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I don't think they are specifically gothic, but check out Slipknot. Now for the gothic, Shadows Fall, Mastadon, and Cradle of Filth are really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meggido Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 I've heard some of Cradle of Filth's music and that's pretty sweet as well. They recently released a new CD which i'm considering buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MischiefEclipse Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Wow, goth music? I'm not sure if this is correct or not, but i think "gothic" music can be found in several genres of metal. Now, I know nobody who is gothic, but those bands that you mentioned, Meggido, are awesome. I've listened to nightwish's stuff and I guess thats the most gothic stuff I've heard. (?) Sounds like you might really appriciate metal. Evanescence, Otep, Tool (which in my opinion is the best rock music in a really long time, though not everyone likes them) , Slipknot, and maybe Korn if you like Cradle of filth (which is beyond troubled) . Not all of those are technically metal, but i like 'em all too, so might be companion genres or somthing like that. Theres really a lot of stuff you could look into, so google it! or um... you know, don't. Sorry, I'll stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 [color=crimson][size=1] Good goth metal? Cradle of Filth, absolute first choice in this genre. Though my personal favorite album out of their like 20 releases would have to be Vempire, but I suggest picking up Lovecraft & Witch Hearts, it showcases their music throughout their career. Except for there latest two releases, Damnation and A Day and Nymphetamine. As for recommendations for other good gothic metal bands, try out these. Entwine To/Die/For Lullacry Charon Moonspell (Newer stuff for these guys, older stuff was considered Black Metal. My absolute favorite band in this genre) Paradise Lost (Check out their Symbol of Life Album, their older stuff I don't think you would enjoy as much.) Type O Negative Chalice Darkwell Devil doll Trail of Tears Old Theatre of Tragedy From Autumn to Ashes Leave's Eye Penumbra That should keep you plenty busy for awhile, have fun with that list. there are some pretty good bands out there as well that I fail to remember right now[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess_Keiko Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I probably say Slipknot,Coal Chamber,Cradle of Filth and Kittie(It's a girl goth band) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 [color=crimson][size=1]I don't want to sound rude or get into a debate of any sort, but the people who said Slipknot.. They aren't gothic, they never were and never. will be. Neither are Shadows Fall, Mastadon, Caol Chamber, Kittie, Otep, Evanesence, Korn or Tool. I don't mean to sound like an elitist either, but go and do some research honestly, you'll find out some very neat things about what "Gothic Metal" is and isn't.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meggido Posted October 7, 2004 Author Share Posted October 7, 2004 I understand that Evanescence isn't Goth metal but there is also such thing as Goth rock which they are. I just purchased the CD Comalies by Lacuna Coil and am absolutely loving it. I'm annoyed because I'm unable to get After Forever in Australia. Other bands my friend has told me about are Epica, Disturbed and Within Temptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future girl Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Evanescence isn't goth rock, The Sisters of Mercy is goth rock. I don't want to be considered an elitist or anything similar but it's really very hard to find any decent new goth bands, it pretty much went the way of punk. I don't mean to say that anything now sucks, it just isn't gothic music. And Slipknot, come on now people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morbid angel666 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 some bands that have influnced me are: cradle of filth ( there british *yay* and they've been following in venoms blueprintand added melody and i have there new album nymephetamine) dimmu borigir(norways answer to cradle) dark throne (they've been around since 1986 and have a raw black metal sound) anal c**t (cool name quite heavy as well ) bestial mockery (heavy as f**k, makes most of the previous bands i've said sound like cliff richards) venom (they invented black metal and there british ) emperor & immortal (two of the greatest black metal bands EVER too bad there now desfuct) cannibal corpse (new york death metal veterins) deicide (with a name that means "the killing of god" and a frontman that branded an inverted cross into his fore-head, you can understand that these guys are really intense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 [quote name='anatema']Evanescence isn't goth rock, The Sisters of Mercy is goth rock.[/quote] [color=crimson][size=1]Yes, I see you got that first, I was going to mention that along with stuff like The Cure. Evanesence is not Gothic Rock[/color][/size] [quote name='anatema']I don't want to be considered an elitist or anything similar but it's really very hard to find any decent new goth bands, it pretty much went the way of punk.[/quote] [color=crimson][size=1]Well if you are happening to look for some good goth bands, I do suggest the ones I mentioned to you as well. They are really worth checking out. Oh and Morbid Angel666 I really like the bands you listed there, awesome stuff. But they aren't gothic in any one way either. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugo54 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 there is a diference between gothic music,black metal and death metal. I personally like black metal better but death metal has some really good bands:lamb of god and deicide are death metal black metal has behemoth,old man's child,dimmu borgir,cradle of filth and satyricon lots of more good black metal bands out there but gothic music has nothing to do with metal it is just made for the image of goths i dont like gothic music because its a mix of lots of music together. they may look cool but looks can be deceiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 [quote name='Shugo54']there is a diference between gothic music,black metal and death metal. I personally like black metal better but death metal has some really good bands:lamb of god and deicide are death metal black metal has behemoth,old man's child,dimmu borgir,cradle of filth and satyricon lots of more good black metal bands out there but gothic music has nothing to do with metal it is just made for the image of goths i dont like gothic music because its a mix of lots of music together. they may look cool but looks can be deceiving.[/quote] [color=crimson][size=1]Actually I have to disagree with you, Gothic Metal, isn't called gothic to appeal to what your definition of "Goths" are. (I know plenty of people who listen to this music, and aren't "Goth". As most would know them) it just has a different structure and set up then other genres. (As does every other metal genre. It has a different structure and setup then the one beforehand.) But it has the sound that any other metal band around would produce. Listen to Moonspell, and tell me that, that isn't metal let alone gothic metal. Gothic Music, or more so "Gothic Rock" though is something completely different and bands that would fit that category, would be the likes of "The Cure", "Sisters of Mercy", ?Bauhuas? and "Souixsee and the Banshees" to name a few.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal Meier Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 goth music..the 69 eyes..lacuna coil (who are italian like me ^^)..him.and some others groups like rage,nightwish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sean Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 [COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]H-I-M? I can't see how you could call H-I-M a Goth band for they call themselves something completley different. And that title is the name of there 2nd Newest album. Love Metal. They have some thrash in there, but they aren't 'goth', just because they were black stereotypes them into the goth category. FATA are a goth band, listen to both bands and you'll hear that difference, especially in HIM's older stuff. Your Sweet Six Six Six, Resurrection, Pretending, and other songs ceertainly portray a different theme than Gothic. So I am hoping you can take the comment back about HIM because i'm sure thats something that would offend Ville Valo. Even look at the album Love Metal, with songs named The Sacrament (great song), Sweet Pandemonium and Buried Alive By Love, all are showing something about [B]Heartache[/B]. So Love Metal is your category for HIM, not 'Goth'.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lavalamp Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 My favorite gothic band is Avril Lavigne. I love how much of an elegant gothic chick she is in her latest video, [i]Nobody's Home[/i]. Ashlee Simpson is also another good dark gothic band. In [i]Shadow[/i](very gothic name), she throws her Fruit Loops because she's possessed by Satan. They're both the best gothic bands around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 [QUOTE=lava lamp]My favorite gothic band is Avril Lavigne. I love how much of an elegant gothic chick she is in her latest video, [i]Nobody's Home[/i]. Ashlee Simpson is also another good dark gothic band. In [i]Shadow[/i](very gothic name), she throws her Fruit Loops because she's possessed by Satan. They're both the best gothic bands around.[/QUOTE] [color=crimson][size=1]I don't know if I should laugh at that, though it's pretty funny.. Or just shake my head in utter disgust, despite it being sarcasm. Oh, and I think I want to state for the record, I don't enjoy labels, genres, at all. But I use them to categorize my music, because it does help to explain what a certain type of music sounds like. It's just much easier to catagorzie it and find more bands that are offering the same type of sound. As long as you don't get the mainstream ideas mixed up with what the music actually is then it usually works out pretty well. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meggido Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 Sometimes people classify bands differently than what the band would classify themselves. For example people classify Cradle Of Filth as Goth Metal, but I recently raed in two magazines that they do not classify themselves as Goth metal or Black metal as it is also known, but rather think of themselves as an extreme heavy metal. They say the only reason they are classified as Goth is because of the makeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mana Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Yeah, I don't know why people think that Evanescence is a goth band. I see nothing gothic about them. Now I listen to a few gothic bands, and I'll just list all the bands I can find in the genre so you can just refer to my list, here it is: :devil: Dimmu Borgir Cradle of Filth Sisters of Mercy Venom Cannibal Corpse After Dark Airborne Angel Witch Old Man's Child Kitty Lepra Death Adversary Abruptum Disfear Molested Drogheda :devil: There's a small list. Now here's a link to a good site to go to if you want an alphabetical listing of the bands: [URL=http://www.anus.com/metal/about/alphabetical.html]CLICK HERE[/URL] :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorphous Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 [color=crimson][size=1]MysticKnight, those bands aren't gothic, nor is the site you gave listings for to put it blantly. Though that site has a lot of really good black and death metal bands listed. (I Would Know, I used it for a long time until I came across a better one. Though I love the History of Metal Essay they have on it. It was really informative.) Anyways the bands you listed there are black and death metal except for a few like Kitty. I seriously do know what I'm talking about when it comes to this music. I really think if anyone want's a good list check mine out on the first page of this topic.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instantramen14 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Many people view Evanescence as a gothic band because Amy Lee, their lead singer for all of you uninformed people out there, tends to borrow fashion ideas from the gothic subculture. Personally, I think the way she dresses is totally wonderful. Corsets and the like, just totally awesome. I've even heard that she makes her own clothes. But how the band looks does not determine what genre of music a band goes under. But yeah, Evanescence is not a goth band, eventhough Amy Lee looks like a goth. I know absolutely nothing about black nor goth metal, I can't tell the difference between the two very well or even name several bands in the genres. However, I know alot of gothic rock like Bauhaus, Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees. (Which, in my opnion, are some of the *best* bands out there.) Oh yes, Lava Lamp, wonderful sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 [color=crimson]I better hide the fact I'm an elitist. *shuffling noises are heard* For the record, I don't listen to much Goth Metal. I do have [i]Damnation and a Day[/i] collecting dust on a bookshelf somewhere- most of the time I listen to it for it's classical tracks, lol. I wasn't really aware the Lacuna Coil MP3s I have were Goth-anything, either. I must be really out of touch with the genres bands are being shuffled into- I usually tread all genres of metal/rock, picking and choosing what I enjoy. I rarely like whole genres of music- in these lists alone, I know I hate Cannibal Corpse [like being stabbed with a fork in the ear], From Autumn to Ashes [I thought they were nu-metal crap until a few moments ago] and Dimmu Borgir [I liked one song on their CD, the rest was bland]. Type O Negative, Cradle of Filth, Moonspell and Charon are good, though. However, Slipknot and Evanescence are bane on music. If you listen to them, you are tainted and must be purged by way of swordfight, strangulation or immolation by flamethrower. Choose carefully.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meggido Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 I recently obtained the Resident Evil Apocalypse soundtrack. Now I suggest anyone who is a fan of Gothic music should buy this. It has some great cothic music such as: Cradle Of Filth Lacuna Coil Nightwish CKY The Cure Rammstein and many others. I thoroughly enjoy listening to it and I'm sure many other goth fans would as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainAnarchy Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Oh my god....Ashlee and Avril are like Brittany Spears with a few studded belts on hand...they are the polar opposites of "gothic". Alot of people classify Avril as "punk" but she doesn't even fit into that genre. Ashlee isn't even a poser (as Avril is). I don't think she even is trying to be "punk" or "goth". I think she is a BrittanyClone with black hair. I am in tears of laughter after that very humorous comment that you made, Lava Lamp. Thank you for making me laugh, you made my day. By the way, I love The Cure and Nirvana (which is more grunge, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 [size=1]Most people have really gotten to this point already, but there is a drastic difference between "goth rock" and "death metal," which seem to be the two confused genres here. Hell, there is a very bold line between "goth" and "metal." Goth is actually an extremely tame area of music. If you listen to any of those bands mentioned before (Souxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, the Cure, Sisters of Mercy), the most commonly noted bands of the genre, you will find they sound nothing like any of the bands listed before. Goth was an offshoot of the punk culture way back when, and died just the same. Now all this death metal, etc. (way too many subgenres I care to even mention) is hardly on the same spectrum as goth. They do not even carry the same core values and principles of their music. The main reason there is even a blend is because of stereotyping. Traits the goth culture had appear in metal bands, and suddenly they are goth. "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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