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Actually, who was the strongest 3, when Goku came back from the other world for a day? I've been wondering this for a while. Cuz before all that, like, when they was fighting Cell, it was 1) Gohan 2) Goku 3) Vegeta. Then 7 years passed. I presume Gohan didn't train much cuz of school, Vegeta trained like a madman to be the strongest, and i'm guessin Goku was also training. So when Goku came back, u got any idea who was the top 3, in order?
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[COLOR=royalblue]Basically Altron said it..b/c Gohan hadn't been fighting since Gokou left b/c of chi chi making him study for school and all...But at the same time Vegeta was still training so basically Gohan got thrown in the dirt.....[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shibatku [/i]
[B]It was 1.(Goku 2.(Vegita 3.(Gohan4.(Piccolo 5.(Chibi Trunks 6.(Goten [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks. From what i've read in this thread, yours seems to be the answer to my question. No offence to anyone else :) But i was asking when Goku first came back, and when he first came back, he wasn't SSJ3 was he? And Vegeta wasn't SSJ2 was he? I don't know, maybe they was, but i never saw either transform, not yet anyway. So yea, i was asking about the moment Goku came back, not when he came back, and a few episodes after that, it's all good though. Thanks :)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shibatku [/i]
[B]It was 1.(Goku 2.(Vegita 3.(Gohan4.(Piccolo 5.(Chibi Trunks 6.(Goten [/B][/QUOTE]

i would think that trunks & goten were stronger than piccolo... but i could be wrong... they're ssj after all... this is why i think it...babidi told dabura to get rid of the "weaker" opponents, so he turned piccolo & krillin to stone, but he left gohan. & gohan was only a regular ssj, not ssj 2 anymore. so the natural conclusion is that an ssj is more powerful than piccolo. do you get what i mean?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goku213 [/i]
[B]Actually, who was the strongest 3, when Goku came back from the other world for a day? I've been wondering this for a while. Cuz before all that, like, when they was fighting Cell, it was 1) Gohan 2) Goku 3) Vegeta. Then 7 years passed. I presume Gohan didn't train much cuz of school, Vegeta trained like a madman to be the strongest, and i'm guessin Goku was also training. So when Goku came back, u got any idea who was the top 3, in order? [/B][/QUOTE]

1. gokou (a hidden power until about the middle)
2.vegeta
3.gohaun
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
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i would think that trunks & goten were stronger than piccolo... but i could be wrong... they're ssj after all... this is why i think it...babidi told dabura to get rid of the "weaker" opponents, so he turned piccolo & krillin to stone, but he left gohan. & gohan was only a regular ssj, not ssj 2 anymore. so the natural conclusion is that an ssj is more powerful than piccolo. do you get what i mean? [/B][/QUOTE]

actually, gohan could go ssj2, but not as powefull as when he was a kid. remember when he transformed infront of kibitto? he was a SSJ2 then., and bs. gohan was not stronger than MAJIN vegeta, gohan was a weak SSJ2 because he hadn't trained in awhile. so therefore, vegeta was as strong, if not a little less stronger than, gokou after he whent majin
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Guest Altron Gundam
NO!!! Gokou had SSJ3 when he came back from heaven. He just held back SSJ3. He didn't use it until Episode 245-246. But he does have SSJ3. Which makes him the strongest, don't base your assumptions on the dub you're seeing.
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Here's how it is, Goku and Vegita are SSJ2, nothing more then that, Gohan is still SSJ2, but he's a bit weaker then before. Goku is clearly the most powerful out of the three, because Vegita is acquering energy from that Wizard bibida(dun know how to spell his name) and that is how Vegita is able to go SSJ2. Now, Goku will probably go SSJ3 before the end of DBZ, and Gohan will probably too, cause I hear Gohan fights with Boo after Goku does, dun ask, but, it's impossible for them to be able to go SSJ2, then SSJ3 in the same day.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Akito [/i]
[B]Here's how it is, Goku and Vegita are SSJ2, nothing more then that, Gohan is still SSJ2, but he's a bit weaker then before. Goku is clearly the most powerful out of the three, because Vegita is acquering energy from that Wizard bibida(dun know how to spell his name) and that is how Vegita is able to go SSJ2. Now, Goku will probably go SSJ3 before the end of DBZ, and Gohan will probably too, cause I hear Gohan fights with Boo after Goku does, dun ask, but, it's impossible for them to be able to go SSJ2, then SSJ3 in the same day. [/B][/QUOTE]

son gohan doesn't turn ssj3....

whats a boo?

son gohan fights buu before son gokou, he fights buu after aquiring his Mystic form....

its not impossible, son gokou does it, he just held back ssj3 because it exhausts his power from the sheer power of it, he can't keep it on very long....
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Ugh I hate this kinda topic.... there is no true answer.... as like anything dealing with PL's after Trunks arrives...

Anyway.... based purely on who beats who and when....

Gokou
Vegita
Gohan

During the Majin Vegita and Gokou fight, Vegita is stronger... Gokou doesn't reveal SS-J 3 and Vegita gets the best of him and then sacrafices himself in an attempt to kill Buu...

Although it MAY be possible that Gohan in his Mystik form could equally fight Vegita, BUT since it never happens and Vegita never really fights Buu, It's almost impossible to judge that.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]NO!!! Gokou had SSJ3 when he came back from heaven. He just held back SSJ3. He didn't use it until Episode 245-246. But he does have SSJ3. Which makes him the strongest, don't base your assumptions on the dub you're seeing. [/B][/QUOTE]

I think some are missing my question. I was asking, bang when Goku came back, that instant, right there and then. NOT, "#" episodes later, there and then, the very millisecond Goku came back from the other world.

Thanks TN, that seems the most likely answer :) . So, if Goku is really SSJ3, then [b][i]how did he go to SSJ2 and then SSJ3[/b][/i]? Do we find out? Does he explain it at some point like Vegeta did? Or are we just left to accept the fact that Goku is now a SSJ3, where the last time we saw him he was only SSJ1, and we have to wonder how he did it? Also, not as importantly, how did Vegeta go SSJ2? Like i say, that Q aint so important, but i've been wondering for ages how Goku went SSJ2 and 3, but nobody (even on other boards) has even answered me yet on that one. Thnx
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Guest Altron Gundam
During the seven years when Gokou was dead he trained and trained. You know how saiya-jins get stronger after a fatal blow? During the Pikkon fight when Gokou went SSJ there was some electricity signifying he was on the BRINK of SSJ2. It must've been after the Pikkon fight that he gained SSJ2. Then during the seven years he trained he gained SSJ3, because it can only be achieved through some saiya-jins and only through training, no burst of anger will automatically cause it.

As for the Majin Vejita and Gokou battle. Gokou was stronger, but the two powers were too similar(although Gokou was stronger) it was his lack of wits that caused his loss.
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