ChibiHorsewoman Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [color=darkviolet]I'm too lazy to go through and quote people I disagree with so I'll just jump right in. Seeing that in the traditional idea of marriage all that was needed is two families, a contract and some land.. maybe some livestock I really don't see why not. Yes, even in the middle ages a wedding ceromony typically took place during a church ceromony the majority of marriages up to the middle of this past century have had less to do with love than with convieniance or what one family can get from the other. To accentuate that fact it's widely known that in many other countries and cultures arranged marriages still take place with no thought to the feelings of either party. I don't know why everyone has to make such a big deal about same sex couples getting married. Is your relationship with you and your loved one so bad that you feel threatened by the thought of two men or two women getting married? We're a nation (ok America is a nation) that takes our kids to gun shows and watches Jerry Springer (admit it), but the thought of Tonya and Tina or Tom and Jerry registering for gravy boats and Noritake china drives almost everyone into puritanical hysterics and gets some people crazy enough to try and make a constitutional ammendment banning it. Yet, if we tried to reinstate the era where it was illegal in most states for interatial couples to get married or make a ban on different faiths getting married you get smacked with the lable of being intolerate or prejudist. Can someone say hypocrisy? I knew you could. In conclusion, as a married woman I don't think it lessens my marriage with my husband. And to anyone who's against it becuase they're against the thought of the whole sex thing I leave you with this joke: q. What's the easiest way to get a woman to stop having sex? a. marry her.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [QUOTE=ChibiHorsewoman] q. What's the easiest way to get a woman to stop having sex? a. marry her.[/QUOTE] What food is has proven to lower a woman's sex drive to nothing? Wedding cake. I love those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiHorsewoman Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [QUOTE=wrist cutter]What food is has proven to lower a woman's sex drive to nothing? Wedding cake. I love those.[/QUOTE] [color=darkviolet]I love them too, but my husband tends to disagree with these jokes. Anyway, I found another good argument for sme sex marriages (or at the very least legal unions with the same rights as marriage) From an economic standpoint same sex marriages (hand fastings ect ect ) are a very good thing. Why? You legalize same sex marriages you have twice as many people getting married which means that twice as many people are going to do bridal registries. With the increase in bridal registries comes the increase in people not only buying gifts for the bridal shower, but also wedding gifts. Then you take into account that these extra people gettting married will need some place to have their reception meaning that party halls and the like will see an increase in their business as well. Also you have the couples who may not want a church wedding but would rather get married in a park or on the beach so they need to go buy permits there. Thus uncreasing the economy in their area some more. Ther's also the cost of the marriage liscence, paying for rentals, (ie tux rentals, chair rentals ect ect) the dj, the person who presides over your ceromony. If you have your reception outside you have to pay for a caterer. And let's not forget the ever important dresses. I had a wedding and have been to a few weddings which could single handedly boost at least New York state's economy. So there you have it another good reason for legalizing gay marriage. And if that didn't work I think that coming home to find my husband in bed with Mary Ann is a bigger strain on my marriage than if the Professor made a pass at him and he said he wasn't interested.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chobit Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 On the subject of gay marriage,I say do whatever you want.It doesn't really affect me,as long as they don't ban Will and Grace,I'm ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [SIZE=1]I've given replies in at least a half dozen of these debates and to be honest my position on the idea is probably not going to ever change. I personally am against gay marriage because it goes against my religious beliefs, egg me if you will but I am just going by the laws laid down by the Roman Catholic Church. To be honest I wouldn't mind if they were given Civil Unions and the rights of a married couple but something just irks me about the use of the word marriage used in a non-religious ceremony. So as those of you who've been in the many other versions of these topics we've had, can see I've mellowed out slightly from my previous views.[/SIZE] [quote name='Lalaith Ril][color=indigo][i]First off. Does no one remember this wonderful thing about how religion and politics would be separated. Everyone always says "The United States was founded on heterosexual marriages," of course that?s not true. Anyone who actively studies history would know that the United States was founded on freedom; freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and freedom of assembly. The United States always has said the rights of their citizens are SOOOO important, yet when two people just want to be recognize as the government in a "civil union" its not allowed because Christianity doesn't allow it?[/i'][/color][/quote] [SIZE=1]This is just a little something that has been niggling away at me for a long time when we have these kinds of discussions, the constant bringing up of the situation in America. Let me just point out one subtle thing, this is [B]Otakuboards[/B], not the [I]United States of Otaku[/I], not the [I]Otakuboards of America[/I], there are people from other countries involved in these discussions and as such it doesn't relate entirely to America, James is Australian, I'm Irish and a load of other people here are from other countries. It just annoys me sometimes that all these discussions seem to just stagnate around America, it's history it's politics. I don't mean that in an offensive way or anything but it's just something I've wanted to point out for a long time.[/SIZE] [QUOTE=Dagger IX1]PS. Does anyone want to start taking bets on how long this thread will last? ~Dagger~[/QUOTE] [SIZE=1]I'm betting Shin's Mod Rod it's closed by Monday (GMT) morning.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cysword6 Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Since it's still before midnight, I'm taking you up on the custom avatar thing deathbug. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godelsensei Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [Quote]I'm betting Shin's Mod Rod it's closed by Monday (GMT) morning.[/Quote] [COLOR=Gray][FONT=Courier New] I'd give it 'til Sunday. In fact, I can't believe this thread's still around right [i]now[/i]. Anyway, my one point I feel like making in response to what I can only assume has or will be passionately stated is that gay marriage doesn't destroy the "bedrock of civilization as we know it." This can be learned by walking down an Ontario street at any hour of the day.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='Godelsensei][quote=Kane][size=1']I'm betting Shin's Mod Rod it's closed by Monday (GMT) morning. [/size][/quote] [COLOR=Gray][FONT=Courier New] I'd give it 'til Sunday. In fact, I can't believe this thread's still around right [i]now[/i].[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [size=1]What I meant by Monday morning Godel was like [I]00:00[/I] on 24 hour time, like just after [I]23:59[/I] on Sunday night, I didn't mean Monday morning like say [I]07:00[/I] or something like that. Damn that was harder to describe than I thought.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [QUOTE=Kane][SIZE=1] It just annoys me sometimes that all these discussions seem to just stagnate around America, it's history it's politics. I don't mean that in an offensive way or anything but it's just something I've wanted to point out for a long time.[/SIZE][/QUOTE] Well, I think this occurs because the subject of gay marriage is a very, very big deal in America right now. Both political parties are trying to capitalize on it, and the debate (by which I mean the general public debate in various cities throughout the States) has turned extremely bitter and divisive. In certain respects it's become almost as awful as the continuing tussle over abortion; nearly every day some major newspaper will carry an article about the latest development. I honestly don't know whether or not gay marriage is as much of a political hot topic in Europe, Australia or anywhere else. You're more than welcome to enlighten me. :) ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 How about I end this off topic "when is this going to get locked" debate by closing this right now. Thank you to those who actually took this thread seriously and responded to the actual subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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