Ever been 'Not Enough'?

[Akieen Cloud]

Alright lemme get one thing straight. This has NOTHING to do with sex. I wanna know if anyone has parents that make them feel like they don't do enought around the house or with their school. I mean I think I do fairly well in school but it seems like that harder I try the worse I do and the more they harp and grip and complian about it. I mean I know that the school curiculum is harder now and that they can't alway help with it. But I mean parents think our lives are cake walks. I think that if our parents took a good long walk in our shoes for one day in school they'd think otherwise. Kinda like freaky friday thing. But seriously. How does everyone else deal with it. I'm 16 and it STILL drives me up a bannana tree...

[Corey]

[quote name='DuoMaxwell1423']But I mean parents think our lives are cake walks. I think that if our parents took a good long walk in our shoes for one day in school they'd think otherwise.[/quote]

[size=1]Our lives [i]ARE[/i] cakewalks. Just wait unill you get to college. No one will teach you how to do things. You are given a book, an assignment, and are expected to learn it on your own. None of this guiding through BS. You are responsible completely for your actions in every way shape and form.

And as for the subjects you have in highschool right now, those are easy too compared to what you're going to find in college.

I think you need a serious reality check. If you walked one day in your parents shoes then you most certainly would see how great you've got it. You don't even have to worry about if you're going to have eletricity or water next month.

Think about it.
Think hard.
You have it easier than you can imagine.[/size]

[Adahn]

[quote name='Corey][size=1]Our lives [i]ARE[/i] cakewalks. Just wait unill you get to college. No one will teach you how to do things. You are given a book, an assignment, and are expected to learn it on your own. None of this guiding through BS. You are responsible completely for your actions in every way shape and form[size=2'].[/quote][/size][/size]
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[b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=darkolivegreen]Actually, what you are saying is complete BS :D . All my teachers make very sure to cover everything in class, and also to let us know exactly what is on each quiz and test. My chemistry professor even has us draw a line in our notes, and tells us that everything up to that point is on the quiz. I haven't even opened my book, and I'm acing chem. Same thing with Math.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[QUOTE=Corey]
And as for the subjects you have in highschool right now, those are easy too compared to what you're going to find in college.[/QUOTE][b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=#556b2f]High School was such a pain in the ***. I have 3 times less class time now than I did in high school, and I don't have to do anything, because the teachers are so good.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[QUOTE=Corey]
I think you need a serious reality check. If you walked one day in your parents shoes then you most certainly would see how great you've got it. You don't even have to worry about if you're going to have eletricity or water next month.[/QUOTE][b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=#556b2f]This is absolute crap. Your outlook on your situation is directly dependent on what you are used to. Your parents had to deal with crap, but that crap was their lives. You can't say that [i]anybody[/i] has it worse than anyone else, especially generalizing like this.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[QUOTE=Corey]
Think about it.
Think hard.
You have it easier than you can imagine.[/size][/QUOTE][b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=#556b2f]This person is asking an honest question, and has an honest problem. You don't live this person's life. You don't know who he/she is. Everyone's problems are just as important as everyone else's, and I, for one, don't appreciate you throwing what's important to this person in his/her face. There is nothing constructive in this whole post.[/color][/size][/font][/b]
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[b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=#556b2f]Edit: Ok, she's a girl. I forgot who started this thread in the middle of my reply, lol.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[Corey]

[size=1]I go by what people tell me. Mayeb you go to a college where the professors take more time with the students. A lot of the people that I talk to that are in college tell me different, on everything you said.

I assumed it was the norm, and I do appologize.

But you can't possibly tell me that highschool life is more difficult than anything that comes after it, even if you do have profs that care about you dearly. You don't have to worry about flunking out of somewhere you [i]pay[/i] for. You don't have to worry about insurance, or bills, or making a decent living. It's all provided for you.

I thought the advice in my post was rather obvious, but I guess not.
'Enjoy it while you can.'[/size]

[Afire]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=RED] I've been "homeschooled" (god, I hate that word) since the 2nd grade, so I'm not the one to ask about the difficulties of highschool life. I do hear stories though, and I really don't think I would have fit in at all. I'm not strong physically, and possess certain traits that could have made my life miserable. I am thankful that I have a mom that saw this before it was too late. I'm even thankful for the chores I have to do around the house. I don't think that highschool would be a cake walk. I think that where I live (in Florida), has the highest dropout rate in the country. I don't think my parents are doing a cake walk either. They work harder than I could ever dream of. Yes, they push me to work harder. Do I need to be pushed? Yes. Sometimes I need to be shoved.

Maybe if you try to be honest with your parents and communicate with them more, they will understand more how you feel, and you might understand them better too, DuoMaxwell. It might be just as good as the Freaky Friday thing...well, almost... ;)
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[wrist cutter]

High school is nothing. Life only gets shittier, so kill yourselves now.

[COLOR=DarkRed]Please add more to your responses. Explaining why you feel high school is nothing would be a good start. Short posts like your response are considered spam.

-Panda[/COLOR]

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

I had 6 AP classes Junior and Senior (6 per) year in High School, so it was a pretty heavy workload. If I had been majoring in something other than Computer Science and Engineering right now, it'd have been a far heavier workload than what I have now.

Basically, I had enough work in high school to equal a double major in humanities fields (say, some literature and some language).

All of my friends, on the other hand, didn't take so many AP classes in HS, so for them college is much more difficult. So it depends on the school you attend. It also depends on what you study in college. If you major in something like comp sci. or electrical engineering or mechanical or whatever, it can be pretty rough. Art education, on the other hand, you BETTER not be having a difficult time with it, heh.

[Inari]

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][quote name='Corry][SIZE=1']Our lives ARE cakewalks. Just wait unill you get to college. No one will teach you how to do things. You are given a book, an assignment, and are expected to learn it on your own. None of this guiding through BS. You are responsible completely for your actions in every way shape and form.[/SIZE][/quote]

Welcome to my AP Biology class, in which the teacher is more of a figurehead who is only there to hand out the assignments and I have to learn it without any help from him. You learn to read the textbook and absorb information on your own.

I agree with ScirosDarkBlade. Your perspective on how hard college is depends on your high school and how you challenged yourself with the courses available. By the end of this year I will have taken 8 AP courses, and I don't perceive that my undergraduate work will be too difficult. I have lots of friends in college who can verify that taking AP Chem. or US History from our great teachers was harder than any college course. They all said that compared to High School, college is a cakewalk.

I would just say that you should enjoy your High School years. This is your time to find out who you are and who you want to be. Have fun, and don't let your parents or anyone else force you to do more than you can and still function well. I honestly don't think that parents can fully relate to the pressure that their children are under. It's hard being adults and teenagers, but in different ways. All you can do is your best.[/COLOR]

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Okay, I have to agree with Corey on this one. It?s really easy to bite the hand that feeds you. Believe me I know. 18, and out of school, I no longer [i]have[/i] to listen to my parents. Lol, but as you ?grow up? you start to realize how beneficial their advice really is. Give them a break as well Duo. They only get on your case about grades because they want to see you do better. Take it from a girl who?s had every rotten teacher, and every bad grade thrown at her. (All my fault of course. I was such a procrastinator :D ) And yes, I truly thought my parents were going to disown me a few times because of the heartache I seemed to cause them. :laugh: And as far as our lives being Cakewalks, well like Corey said? it is a Cakewalk. But it doesn?t seem that way to us, because we?ve never had any real responsibilities. Parents can get on our case, but they do that strictly because they don?t want some employer or someone else to.

[future girl]

Some people here are making generalizations here and assuming that we all have these AMAZING parents that just gave us everything on a silver platter. I'm pretty sure life only gets harder but that doesn't mean that high school in and of itself isn't hard. Maybe your lives have been cake walks and you've had everything handed to you, but I do a lot in my house. I've been watching my nephews [i]free of charge[/i] for my sister since I was ten. A ten year old girl watching five little kids isn't easy. For that matter an 18 year old girl watching five little kids isn't easy. I'm expected to give a part of whatever money I make to my mom to help out with bills and general necessities around the house. I mean, I'm sure there are tons of people that have it much harder, but who cares about them, this is about me. I don't have the type of parents that support me 100% and will help me out if I ever need it. If I want something I get it myself, work for it, it's been like that for most of my life, or at least the part I can remember. My parents aren't paying for my college education, my parents aren't paying for my car, my parents aren't paying for my insurance. Jesus, I haven't had health insurance since I was four. I don't want to make it seem that my parents are these horrible selfish people, if anything they've prepared for what real life is like and I appreciate that but just because I'm barely out of high school doesn't mean that I've been living the life all this time. Maybe the work load is lighter, but work is work so yea.

[KarmaOfChaos]

[quote name='anatema']Some people here are making generalizations here and assuming that we all have these AMAZING parents that just gave us everything on a silver platter.[/quote]

[color=deeppink][size=1]Amen to that.

Anyway, I guess this thread is about not meeting the expectations of someone whom it is important to us to meet their expectations. We all want to please our parents, and it never feels good when they tell us we're not good enough, because damnit all, we're trying.

It can go both ways. In some cases we really aren't trying hard enough, in others, the parents are just expecting too much. You've got to look at the problem objectively (hah) and decide for yourself.

As far as high school vs. college, blah blah blah, just give it up. It's like religion. Nobody is ever going to agree.

-Karma[/size][/color]

[chobit]

If this has nothing to do with sex,then why am I here?

Anyways,it works either way.Our lives are hard,and parents don't know it.They're lives are hard,and we don't know/care.

[Akieen Cloud]

wow didn't think I'd start all that. As for my life being a cakewalk....BS!!!! My life's been a hellhole since I could walk , but I won't go into that. All I wanna know is if people my age are trying their hardest at **** they aren't good at to begin with (like math or biology) and still get critisized because your parents siblings kids are getting a's and b's while you get the 'average grades' and are proud of your-self but that just won't please them...thats all. But I will tell you I HAVE had to worry about having water or lights...I've had to live off of caned green beans for two years...now... I can't stand em' LOL and I can still laugh. Trust me I know how to suck things up. All this girl wants to know is if other people's parents are as expecting of them as mine are of me??

[Erika]

[SIZE=1][color=deepskyblue]Well, I'm just going to add that parents aren't born parents--just like every other human being, they grew up, too. They could have high expectations for their kids because there's a good chance that they don't want them to go through what they did. When I care about someone I love, I'm a bit realistic about it, and albeit I don't force my will upon them, I get somewhat oppressive when I know something's for their own good.

Actions speak louder than words, so if a parent lets their kids do whatever they wanted, when they wanted, wherever they wanted, it all speaks for itself.

But parents don't have to be pricks about it, [i]and neither do the kids,[/i] lol. But some kids do need the occasional shove, and some parents need to check on themselves, and focus more on how thery treat people, not how people treat them.

Effort should be praised, not intelligence. <:-/[/color][/size]

[Baron Samedi]

[size=1]I can't really say that I have it hard. At the same time, I don't get a helluva lot. Anyway, my mum often makes me feel that I don't do anything around the house. I'm more than willing, but I [as a kid] tend not to notice stuff that needs doing. So, if she wants me to do something, she should ask me. But she always fails to see the logic in that.

My life isn't a hard uphill slog. Neither is it a cakewalk. I mean, I'm provided for. But nothing fancy. And I see a lot of other kids getting stuff laid-on, and I feel jealous. lol. Anyway, I don't get much freedom, and my mum isn't always the most understanding person. But she cares, and thats better than some people, I guess.[/size]

[Adahn]

[b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=darkolivegreen]My life is a total cakewalk. High School was a *****, and College is infinitely easier by comparison. I have scholarships based both on my academic ability and my parents' low income. I essentially don't have to really pay for anything, and my parents give me whatever I want (not that I ask for much). People here at College are nice, and I'm nice back. I find many opportunities to help people with Chemistry, or rather opportunities come knocking on my door with lab manuals in their hands. I'm blessed with a divine ability to learn, so I never required any pushing to do extraordinarily well in school, not even from myself. I can look at myself and say, "It's really not fair for all those people out there." I don't really have any problems, with anything. I get to go to Florida over Christmas to see the girl that I love, and I get to come back to more of the same. I guess everyone should just be more like me.[/color][/size][/font][/b]
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[b][font=Trebuchet MS][size=2][color=#556b2f]That was alot of fun to write. I don't know about you, but I feel better :D [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[Epsilon]

[COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]Seeing as I am not yet out of high school. I cannot relate to most of your conversations referring to collage life and after for about 2 years.

Meh...

I get straight A's and B's. The rarely ever seen C's or D's. But my grades are often times over looked by my parents. I am the youngest child of four. They have more important things to worry about. My brothers, my sister, work, etc. So I really cannot complain about school. Rather then only thing I can say that I'm not good enough is Martial Arts and my current carrier work field.

I currently work in graphic design and am a free lance writer. For graphic design, I'm an apprentice and often times have to go out and find my own jobs. During this time, I really feel that I'm not good enough. I'm less experienced then those I'm competing with. I can't see any shade of blues other then primary and two pastels. Doing me a great disadvantage, since most seem to like blue. Giving me the feeling that I can never be good enough.

With writing, I'm probably one of the youngest authors you'll chance to meet. Especially in free lance. So I look to other's work who do the same classifications in writing. Along with the same writing style, I often times worry about how poorly I'm doing. Personally, I can't find as much inspirations as other authors and journalist.


Martial Arts, I recently landed another apprenticeship. The man is 1990' Olympics competitor K. Kim. When I had first applied, most of the styles I practiced weren't even on the minimal requirement list. And you needed at least three years under each style. He made me an exception though. And now, whatever I do...I feel as though I failed, because I am his only student that has to get more help them anyone else. I'm five years behind his other students. It makes me feel a bit ignorant and dumb.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[MillenniumChaos]

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I think it's pretty common for people to feel as if they are 'not enough.' I believe there is a saying that says something like 'Do not compare yourself to others, but rather compare yourself to your morals.' Yeah, that's definately not the quote... Close enough.

Anyway, you seem to be plenty more than enough. In fact, you're all that and a box of Pocky. :D

~MillenniumChaos~

:flush:

Gee, how many times has this happened to you?

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[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=darkviolet]I have a six week old daughter . She cries so I feed her change her and do whatever else I think she may need but she stil cries. However, my mom takes her and holds her for a few minutes and suddenly she calms down.

So yeah at times I feel that I'm not enough for my daughter. But other times she won't calm down for anyone but me and I stop feeling that way.

But I do feel your pain. I also hope I got the question right.[/color]

[Soliel]

[COLOR=GREEN]Okay, I've definately been there with the whole parents feeling like you could do better and crap. My mother would always push me to try harder in school, and it would always make me so mad that she wouldn't push my brother as hard as she pushed me. It drove me to the point that I wanted to go to a school five hours away from where I live (that's the furthest I could go without leaving the state). Now that I've been away from my family for over two months, I've relized the only reason that my mom pushed me harder is because she knew I had more potential (I took all honors classes in hs and my brother is in mostly basic classes). Now I'm not saying that all parents completely understand the troubles their teenage kids face; I'm not willing to give middle-aged adults that much credit, but this may help to explain why they give you so much grief about school work and stuff.

As for the whole 'is high school/college easier?' argument, college can go at your own pace and all schools are different as far as how much help is offered, this usually has something to do with student population size: smaller schools tend to offer more help. Another factor is the quality of your high school. The United States has some of the best public colleges in the world, but also some of the worst public schools. If you came out of a public high school as opposed to a privet school, you're more likely to feel like college is harder. Of course this is only on average, I've seen some public schools that are better than some privet ones.[/COLOR]

[Pumpkin]

[quote name='DuoMaxwell1423']wow didn't think I'd start all that. As for my life being a cakewalk....BS!!!! My life's been a hellhole since I could walk , but I won't go into that. All I wanna know is if people my age are trying their hardest at **** they aren't good at to begin with (like math or biology) and still get critisized because your parents siblings kids are getting a's and b's while you get the 'average grades' and are proud of your-self but that just won't please them...thats all. But I will tell you I HAVE had to worry about having water or lights...I've had to live off of caned green beans for two years...now... I can't stand em' LOL and I can still laugh. Trust me I know how to suck things up. All this girl wants to know is if other people's parents are as expecting of them as mine are of me??[/quote]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=1] It's funny because my parents are always waiting for me to SCREW up. Everything I do, is wrong. Everything I do, upsets them. I guess I changed, and I've always been the sort of rebel-kid. I'm not a good student, I didn't get A's and B's in Highschool (i still dont and im a senior) basically enough to get me by, and I hate how everyone feels that the only way you can succeed is by going to college. College is NOT for everyone. People can make good money without college, and i dont feel it makes you higher then someone else. My parents you could say were dissapointed, because i had always been the smartest, popular kid when i was young. I think they expected me to be a straight A person and be prom queen..I probably could have to be honest. But its just not me, not who i am, not who i want to be. I'm not a super-model, im not a valley girl, I'm not the smartest person, and I'm not the most althetic person either. I'm still even looking for the thing I'm good at. For a long time all I ever did was be who my mom wanted me to be, i dont want people to like me for something i'm not, and to go on to a career that im not interested in. I'm going to get kicked out of the house when im 18, i have to work for my own car, i have to work for my apartment, and have been saving up since i wasl ike 10. All I have ever thought about since i was 7 was getting out of here and actually leading a life that i know they dont approve of. I want to do so much, and if they cant accept it i dont need them. Its sad but its all so true. [/FONT][/SIZE]

[wrist cutter]

[quote name='Pumpkin']It's funny because my parents are always waiting for me to SCREW up. Everything I do, is wrong.[/quote]

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.

[quote name='Pumpkin']I'm not a good student, I didn't get A's and B's in Highschool (i still dont and im a senior) basically enough to get me by, and I hate how everyone feels that the only way you can succeed is by going to college.[/quote]

It is. Succeed like any normal person, anyway.

[quote name='Pumpkin']I think they expected me to be a straight A person and be prom queen..I probably could have to be honest. But its just not me, not who i am, not who i want to be. I'm not a super-model, im not a valley girl, I'm not the smartest person, and I'm not the most althetic person either.[/quote]

My question is: who the hell cares 'who' you are? Just get good grades, it's not bending your belief system to study harder and turn in your assignments.

[quote name='Pumpkin'] i have to work for my own car, i have to work for my apartment [/quote]

Like everyone else? Boohoo.

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

Personally I think that each and every person's situation is different, some people have an easier time in college than they did in High School because they have better teachers. Some have the exactly opposite because they had good teachers in High School and lousy ones in college, I haven't reached college yet but I've been lucky enough to have good teachers in High School so far.

As per the "bar" you parents hold over you to reach again I think it's different for every student, most of the time parents just want to see you do your best even. I remember after my last State Exam my parents told me that they were happy with my results as long as I was happy with them. I think that if your parents are setting unreal goals for you then you need to sit down with them and tell them that you just can't work at that level.[/SIZE]

[wrist cutter]

[quote name='Kane']I think that if your parents are setting unreal goals for you then you need to sit down with them and tell them that you just can't work at that level.[/quote]

But the problem is often that they CAN work at that level, they just don't want to exude the extra effort. This is demonstrated by quite a few posts in this thread.

[Pumpkin]

[QUOTE=wrist cutter]
Like everyone else? Boohoo.[/QUOTE]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=1]Exactly my point! haha Thank you. Even after all that crap, it really doesnt matter at all :D For the people who dont have parents that care, you end up growing a stronger person. I seriously believe in that. :rolleyes:

[quote name='wrist cutter']But the problem is often that they CAN work at that level, they just don't want to exude the extra effort. This is demonstrated by quite a few posts in this thread.[/quote]

As for this that is someones own choice, and not for you to critize. If people make mistakes, that is there problem but they dont need you to voice your views on it. Period. [/FONT][/SIZE]