Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 You know what I say to people that ask questions about SW and don't know? (this does not go to anyone here, it is out of the blue) Got to [url]www.starwars.com[/url] !! It has all the info you need. It's a lot better to go there and get the correct info then just bickering with someone and making enemies out of someone! Be Warned: STAY AWAY from the Star Wars Fourms! People there are rude and obnoxicous (curse my bad spelling!) and all they do is bicker at each other. Plus if you're a newbie, everyone totally ingores you. Don't bother wasting your time there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I go there as a matter of fact. :-D This isn't something that can be answered there. I am a newbie there, and they don't ignore me. :D Boba, on the map in the front of [i]Destiny's Way[/i], Adumar is there, and right where I told you it was. :-D By the Imperial Remnant, when it is supposed to be by Wild Space. Please expand on the "north and south" parts of the galaxy. But as you said, Wild Space seperates known civilization from the Unknown Regions. But how can that be only in one place? From what I read in your post, and other sources, if something is the "buffer zone" between known space, and Unknown Regions, it can't possibly by only one place. And may I ask what the list of planets is for? You can find the un-edited map I made at [url]www.unjoh.com[/url] under galleries. They have a few maps there, from [i]Vector Prime[/i] to [i]Balance Point[/i] if I remember correctly. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 [COLOR=green]Sorry about the Adumar location problem. I was looking in the [I][B]Traitor[/B][/I] NJO novel. My Wild Space/Unknown Regions theory, I guess it needs more explaining than I previously thought. Have you seen a map of the galaxy with all the sections (Deep Core, Core, Colonies, Outer Rim, etc.) labeled? If so, imagine Wild space as an extra ring outside of the Outer Rim. Then imagine another ring outside of that, labeled Unknown Regions. The labels for both regions on the map are simply placed where more of each region exists. There are more "fringe" worlds to the galaxy's "south" than "north", so the Wild Space label is placed at the bottom of the map (south). There is more of the Unknown Regions in the galaxy's "north"(top) so the Unknown Regions label it there. I believe that also clears up the next two of your questions. I included the planet's locations because some of the Fan maps have planets re-arranged in incorrect ways.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 With the north and south, are you talking about planets above and below the galactic plane? Yes that has been what I am imagining. A ring calle Wild Space. And a ring of Unknown Regions. But just because there is "more" in the "south" doesn't give it to be down there. As you and I said, it is a type of "buffer zone"/seperation space fromt he Unknown Regions. It cant possibly only be labeled down there, [i]just[/i] because there are [i]more[/i] down in the south. It is still the boundary between known space and the Unknown Regions. Now that I look closer at the map, it seems to me that Wild Space is confined to that one spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [COLOR=green]I guess north and south were not ideal words to describe my thoughts. I was ignoring the galactic plane, and pretending the galaxy was two dimensional for explanation purposes. What I really meant was the top and bottom of the map. I does seem that Wild Space is confined to a small spiral, but I think that either that was LucasFilm's way of labeling Wild Space (which if it is, I think they did a terrible job) or it truly is an error. On another note, Mitth'raw'nuruodo, you do agree that all the planets are where they are? I can give you evidence for the placement of Adumar and Nirauan if you like. Yu Yu Hakusho!, will you please stop posting incoherently about Star Wars topics we aren't discussing? It is very annoying. Your last post could be interpreted as advertising, which is banned on OtakuBoards. [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 But yet, you said it yourself, Adumar and Nirauan are not where they are supposed to be. It is quite obvious to that fact. All people I talk to and myself have concluded, that Wild Space [i]is[/i] exactly where they placed it. No spots of it here and there, no "more" here and "less" there. It is just where they placed it. In that one area of the map, no where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Roboto Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 I have a question about Episode III. Who is Seifo Deias? I heard that Dooku used that as an alias but I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 [COLOR=green]Although I am not one hundred percent clear on this, I will answer your question as best I can. Jedi Master Sifo Dias supposedly died (Cause currently unknown) approximately twenty years before the Clone War. He was not one of Count Dooku's aliases. Not much is known about Dias, but since he was mentioned in connection with the ordering of the Clone Troopers, I assume we will eventually get some back-story on him. My theory as to who ordered the clones is that Palpitine himself ordered the clones, using his formidable force powers to make all who saw him think he was Dias.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 [color=deeppink] [size=1]Well, Mace Windu, Yoda, and Obi Wan said they knew Sifa- Dias, and that he died ten years ago... My guess is he's a real person, just perhaps a jedi that forsaw this war, or turned to the dark side and obeyed Palpatine's orders.[/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Boba Fett [/i] [B][COLOR=green]Although I am not one hundred percent clear on this, I will answer your question as best I can. Jedi Master Sifo Dias supposedly died (Cause currently unknown) approximately twenty years before the Clone War. He was not one of Count Dooku's aliases. Not much is known about Dias, but since he was mentioned in connection with the ordering of the Clone Troopers, I assume we will eventually get some back-story on him. My theory as to who ordered the clones is that Palpitine himself ordered the clones, using his formidable force powers to make all who saw him think he was Dias.[/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] 10 years my man, 10 years. Currently, there isn't much information on him. Just the fact that "he" set orders for the clone army, and that he was a leading member of the Jedi Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 [COLOR=green]>.< Ten years. I knew that... While we're on the subject of the clone army who here, if anyone, has read the Jango Fett open Seasons comic book series that details Jango's life and the production of the clone army?[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I read the Jango Fett, open seasons series. They were pretty good, except I thought it was a bit cheesy how he got his silver and blue Mandalorian battle armour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 [COLOR=green]The acquisition of his normal armor is in the forth and final comic book of the series, right? I haven?t yet received the last one; my local comic supplier was sold out so I had to order it online. I was double the normal cost if you include shipping. That really ticked me off. I liked the information about the creation of the clone army that was provided in the series, although I would have preferred that both of the Fett's backgrounds stayed a secret. It was such a let down in Episode II when you heard Boba telling his father "Get him Dad!". It drove me nuts. Mitth'raw'nuruodo, my post I have been working on regarding the Wild Space/Unknown regions is almost done so that we can continue our discussion soon... [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 K. phew *wipes brow* Thought we were going to leave it hanging there. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 [COLOR=green]I know I am long overdue with my response regarding the Unknown Regions/Wild Space areas, but I'll try to get back on track here. I have looked all through my collection of research regarding the placement of planets in and around the Unknown Regions/Wild Space areas (now totaling five pages front and back) before coming up with this solution. Here is the official NJO map: [IMG]http://www.otakuboards.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=296804[/IMG] You can see that several planets seem to be out of their positions, but I have a possible explanation for this discrepancy. The makers of the NJO map may not have marked these regions with "rings" since they are not fully explored. As far as I know, all Star Wars media sources have placed wild space between the known galaxy and the unknown regions. Using my research (Available upon request since I don't want to waste time typing unless absolutely necessary) I have made this map, which I think shows the boundaries of both regions where they should be... [IMG]http://www.otakuboards.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=302725[/IMG] So, what does the rest of the resident Star Wars community think? [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9mm Avenger Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Looks pretty good to me, Boba....Nice job with the neon colors, very..Prominant. However, Bakura and Endor look like their in Wild Space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Just about to say that. You could just like "detour" around Endor and Bakura, because as far as I know, they are known planets, charted, and should be in the known galaxy.Where in your mind, would you put Nirauan? I'll post up the map I made as well. If I remember correctly....almost identical to yours....but not as huge vibrant ring things, identical or similiar.....concerning the fact I made mine first. :-D Maybe......Now that is a WAY better map than the true NJO map. Boba, do you still have the map that I made? Because I can't seem to find it, and I would like to post it. So, did ya keep it? ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [color=ff00cc] [size=1]Wow! ^^ That the first time I've ever seen a Star Wars map... I never realized how far Naboo was from Corusant. I thought it'd be alot closer than that... It would take longer to get to Tatooine from Naboo than it did to Corusant... *dodges tomatoes*[/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentdeath Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 those maps are amazing! did you make those yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Both maps are from the New Jedi Order books. The first map was the original, and the one with color, was one that he had edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [COLOR=green]Thrawn- I seem to have deleted your map from my computer. I know I deleted both your e-mails you sent me, but I had hoped I could find the copies I saved to my Star Wars picture file. Sorry? The map you made was a little cruder than mine, but showed basically the same thing. The reason I decided to display these maps is because of your comment that wild space was only where it was marked on the map, not in a ring form. So, in my opinion, the origional map is accurate, but not fully complete. It looks to me like the only problem with my map is the Endor and Bakura problem. It seems I was a little overzealous with my image editing program's "spray paint" option? :blush: Juu- The planets are where they are located on the map. I can get you a bundle of references that prove my point from Star Wars books and movies if you like?[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][B]EDIT[/B] Thrawn, I found your map! I remembered that I had saved a backup of all my files onto disks (My dad is forever tinkering with the computer, and files do tend to get erased quite often :flaming: ), and your picture was among them. Here it is:[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 The ideas of both of our maps are the same. But mine was just a small little line or two, and you took yours the extra steps. I myself, still don't find the NJO map accurate, or as accurate as you claimed it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 [COLOR=green]Hmm, my attempt at attaching your map via attachment seems to have failed? The file was apparently too big. I agree that the Star Wars map is unclear, but I consider it accurate. It's all in your point of view. Also, do you want me to e-mail you your map? I'm still unclear on that issue...[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anakin Solo Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Here is the map that I made. Though I have to admit, crude it is. :D Not to sound like a "god" or something, but I [i]think[/i] that Boba may have gotten [i]some[/i] inspiration for his map from mine. My map was made to prove a huge point in our map debate.....funny thing is....that the debate is like only 2 pages....thought it was longer....well.....here we go. Red=boundary of Wild Space and the Known Galaxy. Blue=boundary of Wild Space and Unknown Regions, everything behing the blue line, Unknown Regions The blue line near the Ssi-Ruuk cluster, ignore that. Drawing mistake there. And the red line right in front of the chunk called unkown regions is this: The red line is still the boundary of Wild Space and the Unknown Regions, but here it there is no blue line. Since the area marked is already the Unknown Regions, I didn't need a blue line, but think of the edge of the chunk marked Unknown Regions, to be a blue line, and it still follows what I said above. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 [COLOR=green]I was influenced by your map design a great deal Thrawn, and simply took your idea to the next level. I agree with you on the new map design being clear and accurate, but as I said before, how it relates to the official map is all in your point of view. So it looks to me as if our debate is concluded, unless you have any other concerns regarding the map... As a closing note, I have been reading over the last twenty or so pages, and found that from Thrawn's first appearance here we have had some very interesting debates. They definitely resemble a quality spar. So, I challenge Thrawn publicly to a Star Wars spar (Please PM me if you accept and I will furnish more details)...[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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