Discuss The God-Game [Underground] [M-VSL]

[Corey]

[size=1]Ok, this is a thread dedicated to questions and discussions about my newest RPG [b][url=http://www.otakuboards.com/showthread.php?t=43744]'The God-Game"[/url][/b].

Anything is welcome. I'll probably edit this post a little later and add a few more things, such as timelines and some of the more profound changes of history.

Until then.

[b]EDITs-[/b]
[u]Major Temporal Incursions (Part 1)[/u]
The Preservation Of The Dinosaurs
[list]Somewhere toward what was supposed to be the end of the Dinosaurs natural life on this planet, a group of Temporal Terrorists traveled back and stopped the meteor from hitting the Earth. The general theory of how is that they projected a Temporal Bubble into space, enclosed the meteor inside of it, and held it in place for a day until the Earth was out of it's path. After it was released, it passed by, not harming the Earth in the slightest. The resulting changes were that man and Dinosaur coexisted for a few hundred million years, completely changing the evolution of mankind. They became more of a scavaner than a hunter, and therefore their leg power increased, their survival center of the brain grew hugely, and when the Temporal Police woke up the next morning, they were in a world very similar to early Rome, only much more brutal. Their temoporal watchs still read mid 22nd cenutry, but the evolution of man had started extremely late. They traveled back several times to catch the ones responsible and after almost a year of searching pulled it off.[/list]

The Assasination Of Caligula
[list]Romes most disgusting and mentally disturbed ruler was murdered as a child when a Christian Faction traveled back to prevent him from ever rising to power and doing all the extremely sinful things he did. The 'inventor' of Vomitoriums, Orgys, and many other un-Christian things was killed and the resulting reprocussions left the entire world in the Roman grip. The Temporal Police awoke in a modern-day Rome, coplete with early automobile technology and microchips. The current emporer was named Marius amd ruled the vast Roman empire with a very Caligula-esk way. The world was one big bordello. The Temporal Police righted this one in less than a week, righting history again.[/list]

The Destruction Of The Declaration Of Independence
[list]A radical group of anarchists infiltrated a government facility and used the time device to travel back to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. They murdeed all the founding fathers and burned the document. The world changed in an instant to a chaotic warstricken place. Everyone was constantly at war with everyone else. Nuclear weapons. Atomic bombs. Hydrogen bombs. Nuetron bombs. Utonium bombs. Everything was used against everyone. The Tepmoral Police lost one of their own on that mission. Since they're removed from the normal flow of time, once they die, they can't be found again. In any time frame. They eventualy found the anarchists and 'unknotted the string'.[/list]

More to come later.[/size]

[Raiha]

[COLOR=MediumTurquoise]Perhaps, like I mentioned briefly in my signup, there should be a secure location to instruct these Temporal Police. Of course, if you agree, I'll have to change the university to a Training Facility.

It too, would be removed of time, but that would require something to stop Temporal Paradox. Since the Temporal Paradox would stop it from existing. Or...have we thrown out all the rules?

I just studied this in my Humanities class and in a "Mind Of God" physics book...

The ideas for time include Continuous Creation and Linear Regression.

Which rules apply?[/COLOR]

[Corey]

[size=1]Well, my dear, first I think you should get me more information on that book so I can read it.

And second you ened to explain what you mean by Continuous Creation and Linear Regression.
I can only read into the names, and the conclusions I draw might not be correct, so I'm not going to reply until I have more info.[/size]

[Raiha]

[font=times][COLOR=darkorchid]Part One: Continuous creation: A respected professor was explaining his theory of the universe. Apparently he was about to launch into a deep discussion covering Stephen Hawking's famous "Brief History Of Time" when a woman interrupts and says she knows better. The world, she declares, is a plate resting on the back of a giant turtle. The lecturer asks what the plate rests on and she replies: ?It?s turtles all the way down!?*

This is a symbolic reasoning of Continuous creation and infinite regression. There is no deep and complicated structure, simply turtles into ad infinitum. There is a void and then once you are through the void, you come out onto the next point in time. It is called a ?Closed Loop.? This theory is similar to a Mobius strip. Infinity, in a closed cycle, therefore there is no escape, and there is no backtrack. You simply continue forwards. In this story, the Time Cops would have be able to stop and go back without interrupting the flow of time. Likewise they would have to be able to stop and go forwards and be able to return. Otherwise a Temporal Paradox would ensue.


Part Two: Linear Regression is a more hopeless view. Under this, it is easiest to think of the Bible. We are all headed towards imminent destruction and our only hope is to save as many lives as possible before God hits the death switch and we all become little lumps of carbon on a planet that would be better named ?Ground Zero.? We can look back and jump backwards, but we can?t jump forwards. If we do, we?ll be trapped and have to wait for everything to catch up. Of course by then we?ll be dead. Another way to look at Linear Regression would be the reverse. We can jump backwards but not jump forwards. If we do, we instantly age and die.

This rather dismal view supports far more realistic views and doesn?t play in too well to the idea of any ?God? and his Power. It shows us as rather weak and pathetic sorts, but it also compensates for Temporal Paradox. ?Nature struggles to reassert the pattern that was meant to be.? For this to work, we would have to overcome Nature itself.[/COLOR][/font]

*The book is entitled: "The Mind Of God; The Scientific Basis for a rational world." by Paul Davies. It's a pain in the *** unless you're also a scientist that has a degree in metaphysical ********. I survived on wit alone.

[Corey]

[size=1]Thankyou for the explanations.

Both of the theories aren't incorporated into the RPG.
Like I said in the backstory, the Temporal Police are infused with nanomachines that put out an anti-temporal pulse. I know that it is an extremely unlikely bit of technology, but so was spacetravel twohundred years ago. The nanomachines remove the Police from the normal flow of time. They can jump back and forth without any physical strain (ie. aging, getting younger, disappearing, or dying).

Contrary to what people may think, the Police are not invisible or anything when they travel back, and they are seen. Some people write about them, talk about them, etc... But they exist as more of an urban legend than a tangible fact.

There [b]is[/b] a place that the Temporal Police (TPD) train in. It is also encompassed in the same kind of anti-temporal pulse and is located deep underground at the equator. It's called the Univeristy. TPD personell, for it is much more than just our little group, includes sevral extremely talented historians. It's their job to look at new copies of history books and other historical items and compare them to the 'original' timeline items. Also there are people that study and analyze timelines that are generated everyday for mistakes and changes.

I do plan on including a lot more information during the flow of the game, but if anyone has any questions please don't hesistate to ask.
This RPG depends on people being informaed and understanding the theories I've put into action.
Please ask if you don't understand.

And thankyou to Raiha (Neuvoxraiha) for the help she's given me. She understands a lot more about temporal theories than I do.[/size]

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

Well considering I'm about as knowledgeable of Temporal laws as I am with complex Neuro-Surgery I'm just going to stick with what little knowledge I do possess and just sit back and enjoy the RPG. Nice quite of "unknotting the string" Corey, it makes me feel special ;).

Using the [B]Chapter System[/B] do you plan for each person to post in each chapter or do you plan on having certain chapters to deal with certain character interactions ? I'm just curious as Chapter-based RPG have a tendency to take a long time to do and come off feeling quite short as opposed to post-driven RPGs like Black Horizon.[/SIZE]

[Vicky]

[QUOTE=Kane][SIZE=1]
Using the [B]Chapter System[/B] do you plan for each person to post in each chapter or do you plan on having certain chapters to deal with certain character interactions ? I'm just curious as Chapter-based RPG have a tendency to take a long time to do and come off feeling quite short as opposed to post-driven RPGs like Black Horizon.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][B]I was also wondering the same thing. The chapter system seems a good idea and in my opinion it always works best when you want an RPG that isn't running to loose and doesn't get too confusing.

I was also wondering how long you intend to make this RPG, roughly how many chapters I mean.[/SIZE][/B]

[Circ]

Have you read books by Robert Sheckley? His Options and Mindswap books have material that looks a lot like that RPG in the sense of a weird and ever-changing self-controled world .

[Raiha]

[quote name='Circéus']Have you read books by Robert Sheckley? His Options and Mindswap books have material that looks a lot like that RPG in the sense of a weird and ever-changing self-controled world .[/quote][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Do the world a favor and try to explain that, because quite frankly, your post did nothing to further this discussion. Instead it made me have a sudden desire to kill you.

This RPG isn't about a "self controlled world." It's about time and pursuit.

As for un-knotting the string Kane...I'm afraid I, your darling dearest female, is to blame. He and I went into several discussions and I, as he mentioned, have brought to light some of the more contemporary theories of time and space and the "continuity" of them. I brought up the idea of a Mobius school of study, as in the colleges today. I also came up with "The University."

For the uninitiated, and I'm seeing quite a few of those...a Mobius Strip is a piece of paper twisted and sealed back together again, an opitcal illusion, and a proof of infinity.

If you don't get it, open a book and do some research.[/COLOR]

[Circ]

[QUOTE]He exists in a world of his own design. Anything he can imagine, he gets. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] The world is made to be made. Anyones mind can affect the world, but McKline has had control for so long, it's almost complete.[/QUOTE]

This made me think of the movie [URL=http://imdb.com/title/tt0209958/]The Cell[/URL]. The "dream worlds" found in this movie have a very odd ever-changing and shifting idea to them, along with the fact that they are under the control of some sort of mad mind.

At the end of "Mindswap", the main character has to pursue his enemy in the "skewed dimension" (or whatever the original name is, I read it in French), a place where no laws exist (including the on that says that no laws exist). It is shaped by the subconscious of the one who enters it or something. This part of the books has an impression of surrealist constant change, which was what I expected from the madman's mind.

Options is perhaps the weirdest sci-fi book I've ever read. It has mostly the ame feeling as in the end of Minswap, but with a pretention of keeping the same story going. Very, very odd indeed.

[Corey]

[QUOTE=Neuvoxraiha][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Do the world a favor and try to explain that, because quite frankly, your post did nothing to further this discussion. Instead it made me have a sudden desire to kill you.

This RPG isn't about a "self controlled world." It's about time and pursuit.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[size=1]Raiha, you need to calm down.
The RPG is exactly about a self controlled world. Most everything I wrote about is backstory. Only about the last paragraph is the actual RPG.

Like Circéus quoted, it is a world of McKlines own design.
It's your quick-to-snap attitude that often makes me consider whether or not to accept you into RPGs. You almost didn't make it into the BH: DR because of it.

Circéus had aperfect ligitimate question. I said that all questions were welcome. That includes from people not signed up to the RPG.

You also need to realize that not everyone is as good of an RPer as some of us veterans. It makes you seem a bit of a bigot when you ask if I'm kicking someone, like Jokopoko, out of an RPG when some of their posts are better than yours. You were a bad RPer once too.

I don't accept people solely on skill, I accept them on imagination. If I can read a bio and see something new and exciting, then I'm defiintly going to consider that person, even if they aren't the best.

[b]Circéus:[/b] I've never read any of the books or seen the movie The Cell, though I've been urged to by a friend of mine. He told me a lot of my stuff reminds him of that movie.[/size]