Miyoko-chan Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][FONT=Arial]Does anyone know how to use screentones or where to get them? I've been wanting to use some in my manga.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 [COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]I may be able to help, however. I don't know any places that specifically do manga textiles. You may want to simply try to make your own. I've been making mine for quite a while. Usually, it will depend on your experience with the program you are using and the type of manga your making. Along with art style, time limit, etc. EXP: [IMG]http://brokeneyes.250free.com/b1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://brokeneyes.250free.com/b3.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://brokeneyes.250free.com/b4.gif[/IMG] Before,I recommend to most people who don't have a few days on end to mess around with manga textiles to use brushes instead. I could give you a few links to brush resources if you'd like. If you don't mind me asking, what program do you use?[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naota Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 [COLOR=Sienna][SIZE=1]Can I get the links to because I need some too! I been looking for them for a long while! Also can I get a link to you manga or see a pic? I just wanna see how it looks like.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTK Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I usually buy my tone at cons ^^; I also saw a demo at a con, so that's how I learned how to use them. How to draw manga.com sells tone... I used to buy it there, but I think they're going to stop O_o or at least no longer keep as much tone as they used to in stock Deleter sells a CG program that you can use for tone, but I've never used it. They also sell sheets of tone (on the site as deleter screen) [url]http://www.deleter.com/eng/[/url] the how to draw manga book on how to use tone is also very helpful, though some of the art is borderline hentai O_O there's also a version of it floating around that comes with tone. But i totally recommend the book ^^ If you want to use tone in photoshop, instead of doing it by hand, you can probably look up some places online that have patterns/brushes you can download (I'd include links, but i'm currently not on my normal computer T_T) if you looked, you could probably find a photoshop tutorial as well. If you buy tone, you could probably scan it to make your own brushes as well. I could probably do a mini tutorial on how to use tone by hand if you wanted though ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 [COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]I would never pay for toners or manga textiles. XD Here is an example for brushes. Forgive for the image quality, but it was done in about 10 minutes in Adobe Photoshop 8.0 As you can see, your able to change the sizes and quality of the brushes and toners. You can also add film grain or simple add dots if your willing to experiment. [IMG]http://brokeneyes.250free.com/si002.jpg[/IMG] [i]Brushs by Truly Sarah.[/i] [URL=http://www.truly-sarah.com/]Truly Sarah.[/URL] [URL=http://veredgf.fredfarm.com/vbrush/main.html]V Brushs.[/URL] Those are the two most used. If you want more PM me. Unknown Brushs use to have specific toners for Mangas. But that selection was taken off about, well, I think last year. Please remember to read their Terms of Use before downloading. Or you can learn to make your own tones, textiles, brushes, etc. from here; [URL=http://www.pixel2life.com]Pixel2Life.[/URL] I hoped that that had helped you in someway. Good-luck.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTK Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Went and hunted down some random links. the artist who does the comic Next Exit does all the tone for her comics in ComicWorks (which I think is sold by Deleter, but I could be wrong because I'm too lazy to look), so you might want to check that out (it's a great comic anyway XD) An example of tone by her can be found here-- [url]http://www.deviantart.com/view/11606357/[/url] check our her deviantart gallery for more examples ^_^ Here's an example of tone done by hand though [img]http://redvoid.com/commision/fin/inuyasha.jpg[/img] my tone work is so bad next to her's *dies* but it's to prove you can get pretty much the same results if you really worked at it T_T My example also shows that tone typically does not look good if you shrink it (though the dot patterns don't like to be resized at all... I think it's called moire or something when it looks bad...anyway, you'll have the same problem with a scan of the real thing and stuff that's done with a program) So if you do tone with a program, make sure it's the size you want it to be before adding tone to it random links to find tone for psp and such online (you could also make your own fairly easily, but if you're lazy like me...)-- [url]http://psychobob.xepher.net/screentonez/[/url] [url]http://gui.walraven.org/scre[/url] [url]http://www.ashuramanga.com/tone.htmentone/[/url] [url]http://www.operafloozy.com/digitone/[/url] tutorial on for to make screentone for photoshop- [url]http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/halftones/tone1.htm[/url] I've got more brushes, but they're on my other computer T_T so I currently don't have the source. If anyone wants them, I can post links later (for random stuff, like word bubbles and sound effects and different patterns) and if you buy tone, fyi, it seems to average $2 a sheet (though I've seen it as cheap as $1.75 and as much as $4-something... but those were larger sheets)... tone is super fun to work with by hand though (but it could just be me) Whee, hope that was helpful ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtakuSennen Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 [color=navy]AnimeBooks.com is another good resource for manga supplies in general, and they have a few "manga starter kits" which provide all of the necessary tools. I got one last year, and it came with pretty basic ones. Just solids and gradients. Maybe it's the way I'm using the tool, or maybe the blade is messed up, but I've never really figured out how to do screentones [i]well. [/i]I've never intended on using them in excessive force, though. My work gets cluttered enough before screentones are thrown into the mix. Maybe if I had a decent manga program, I would toy around with it more, but for the moment I'm just cheap and lazy.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTK Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 [QUOTE=OtakuSennen][color=navy]AnimeBooks.com is another good resource for manga supplies in general, and they have a few "manga starter kits" which provide all of the necessary tools. I got one last year, and it came with pretty basic ones. Just solids and gradients. Maybe it's the way I'm using the tool, or maybe the blade is messed up, but I've never really figured out how to do screentones [i]well. [/i]I've never intended on using them in excessive force, though. My work gets cluttered enough before screentones are thrown into the mix. Maybe if I had a decent manga program, I would toy around with it more, but for the moment I'm just cheap and lazy.[/color][/QUOTE] really? O_O that's a bit odd... do you have any examples of stuff you've done with tone? I'd like to see ^_^ this sounds really silly, but when I've talked to friends who are having trouble using tone, the most commom problem seems to be putting too much force on the blade when cutting or etching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyoko-chan Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][FONT=Arial]Heh. . . Looks like I'm gonna have to get a program to screentone my manga. . . So, what program do you guys think is the best? Oh, and thanks for the links they were very usefull! ^_^ If you want to see some of my art, go to: [url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/artist.php?user_id=46921[/url] That was all done in pen or pencil though, no comps involved except for resizing.(unless the pic says otherwise) The ones from the manga I'm wanting to screentone are Tsuya, Nica and Kinari, The two forms of Atsuko, Tsuya 2, Demon Girl, Atsuko, and demon. Let me know what you think! ^_^[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTK Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [QUOTE=Miyoko-chan][COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][FONT=Arial]Heh. . . Looks like I'm gonna have to get a program to screentone my manga. . . So, what program do you guys think is the best? Oh, and thanks for the links they were very usefull! ^_^ If you want to see some of my art, go to: [url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/artist.php?user_id=46921[/url] That was all done in pen or pencil though, no comps involved except for resizing.(unless the pic says otherwise) The ones from the manga I'm wanting to screentone are Tsuya, Nica and Kinari, The two forms of Atsuko, Tsuya 2, Demon Girl, Atsuko, and demon. Let me know what you think! ^_^[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] I'd recomend adobe photoshop (yeah, it's bad, but you can get on Kazaa or something and download it for free instead of paying like... a crapload to buy it) And it's a lot cheaper to start out doing tone with a program instead of buying it (cause if you mess up by hand, that's wasted tone you'll have to replace) you can't normally use screentone over pencil drawings either (because of lead and dirt, it doesn't stick well), so if you do it with a program you won't have that problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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