Nirvana

[CaptainAnarchy]

[SIZE=1][FONT=Arial]I thought that Nirvana should be recognized with a thread. They were wonderful artists and Nirvanas CD [I]Nevermind[/I] is the only CD I have come across that I like [U]every single song[/U] on... I think that Kurt Cobain was pretty gosh darn sexy,too :love: hehe...and he was talented....I'm very sad he took his own life because I would of[B] LOVED[/B] to see Nirvana in concert...:( They (in my opinion) were the greatest rock musicians who had ever lived...[/FONT][/SIZE]

[i n d i g o]

[COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=2]Nirvana's a good band, but they're [I]obscenely[/I] overrated...especially songs like 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'...I mean..honestly...STFU...[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[CaptainAnarchy]

They aren't overrated...they were the BEST...can't convince me otherwise. Their songs are full of meaning...I mean its great,man.... :D

[Epitome]

[size=1][color=orange]Im not a huge fan, but they are good band of their time. But I agree with idigo, very overrated.[/size][/color]

[Bullet Theory]

I like some Nirvana, but I'm going with the rest. They are pretty overrated. I mean they [b]did[/b] revolutionize the "grunge" scene but still...give it a rest you obsessed people. It is a horrible lose for Kurt to have taken his own life...but it was his choice. He'll be greatly missed.

[CaptainAnarchy]

They were the best...case closed. No overratings...they were simply THE KINGS of the 90s grunge scene...they switched us from that terrible glam metal from the 80s to the awesome sounds of punk/grunge...

[Bullet Theory]

[quote name='CaptainAnarchy']they switched us from that terrible glam metal from the 80s to the awesome sounds of punk/grunge...[/quote]
Which was indeed a well needed breath of fresh air, so to speak. Nirvana came along when the music scene needed them most and swept the nation. They are an inspiration to many up-and-coming bands (including mine, [b]Tragedy Thought[/b]), but even still...people need to let go of the fact that Nirvana is no more.

[CaptainAnarchy]

You have a band? I'm starting a band...The Corporate Flunky Project....

[Manic Webb]

Nirvana were like the Beatles during the beginning of their career. The Beatles were good and changed music for the better, but some of their earlier work just wasn't as good as their later work. Frankly, there were no past influences for them to pull from, so they had to start their sound all by themselves. So while their first songs were good, they got much better as their had time to refine their sound.

Nirvana sparked a huge change for grunge music, but they weren't really that good. Had they been around a bit longer, I'm sure they would've come out with something 10 times better than "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

A good band? Yes. Greatest band ever created? Far cry. Although they do deserve a good amount of recognition.

[CaptainAnarchy]

Smells Like Teen Spirit can't get ANY better than it is...it is served at its fullest potential!

[I, Colossus]

I myself, was once quite the Nirvana junkie. It got to the point where I was obsessed with Kurt Cobain and really, really, cared about him. Last year I got really depressed on his Birthday.

Right now, however, I've taken a step back. Now, I feel they are a bit overrated. Yes, they are a great band, Kurt's lyrics being the prominent reason. Not to mention Grohl being one of the greatest drummers to ever walk the earth. But the more I listen to them, the less cryptic their lyrics become. Also, I only tend to want to listen to them in Winter, or when I'm depressed (which is not very often). I do still love them with all my heart. I just don't see them as the gods I once did.

Anyway, in short, yes, they kick ***.

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]I honestly believe that the only reason Nirvana DID get so blown up right there in the middle of their career was because of Kurt's death. Sure, the band had it's following, but how much larger did the following become once Kurt died? Once it became "cool" to like Nirvana? I'm not saying they are not a great band because I have a few of their albums myself, including the "Greatest Hits," but Stone Temple Pilots rock Nirvana, hands down. Not to mention Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, etc. Need I say more?[/color][/size]

[CaptainAnarchy]

[SIZE=1]Eck...you have your opinions,deary but so do I. I don't think any of the bands you mentioned "rock" Nirvana. Pearl Jam and Soundgarden in my opinion suck eggs real bad. I like Stone Temple Pilots...but not so much that it tops Nirvana...and I've never heard Alice In Chains so I can't actually say anything nasty about them....I'm so mean:)[/SIZE]

[Manic Webb]

CaptainAnarchy, can you calm it down just a tad? We get that you like Nirvana [i]a lot[/i], but some of your replies in their defense come off as a little... um... hyper.

[I, Colossus]

[quote name='Queen Asuka][color=hotpink][size=1]I honestly believe that the only reason Nirvana DID get so blown up right there in the middle of their career was because of Kurt's death. Sure, the band had it's following, but how much larger did the following become once Kurt died? Once it became "cool" to like Nirvana? I'm not saying they are not a great band because I have a few of their albums myself, including the "Greatest Hits," but Stone Temple Pilots rock Nirvana, hands down. Not to mention Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, etc. Need I say more?[/color'][/size][/quote]

All I'm hearing is "I don't like things when they become mainstream because it makes me feel superior".

Nirvana was [i]very[/i] popular before Kurt's death. From what I've witnessed you seem to be the kind of person who doesn't want her favorite things to be popular. Sucess isn't so horrible. Something you like being cool, isn't bad. Get over it.

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]Now, now CaptainAnarchy- you must not be that fanatically devoted to a single band of a great genre! Many bands from that genre are just as good as Nirvana- the one's QueenAsuka listed are fantastic. If you like Grunge, then those are the bands you want to add to your playlist- especially Alice in Chains [The song "Grind" is so fantastic]. I'm hoping you aren't just an ignorant fan..girl? guy? Whatever your gender is. Surely you aren't that silly form of human, hm?

So, yeah- go out and get yourself some Alice in Chain's music- MP3's or otherwise. "Grind", "Them Bones", "We Die Young", "Angry Chair", and "Rooster" are all good songs from them. Also, give Soundgarden another try- I am honestly not that big a fan of Pearl Jam, but Soundgarden is pretty good.[/color]

[Manic Webb]

[QUOTE=Blinky]All I'm hearing is "I don't like things when they become mainstream because it makes me feel superior".

Nirvana was [i]very[/i] popular before Kurt's death. From what I've witnessed you seem to be the kind of person who doesn't want her favorite things to be popular. Sucess isn't so horrible. Something you like being cool, isn't bad. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
I don't think she was complaining about them going mainstream, so much as she was complaining about them becoming [i]more[/i] popular [i]after[/i] Kurt's death. You know, it's fine and dandy that they were popular, but how come so many people didn't start listening to them until one of them died? I have the same issue with people who didn't particularly care for Aaliyah's music until after she died. How come they didn't realize the music was good until somebody died?

[I, Colossus]

[quote name='Manic]I don't think she was complaining about them going mainstream, so much as she was complaining about them becoming [i]more[/i] popular [i]after[/i'] Kurt's death. You know, it's fine and dandy that they were popular, but how come so many people didn't start listening to them until one of them died? I have the same issue with people who didn't particularly care for Aaliyah's music until after she died. How come they didn't realize the music was good until somebody died?[/quote]

Maybe in that instance but she has a history of bitching about stuff becoming mainstream.

But, is it possible, that maybe, they didn't start liking it because he died. But they started due to the publicity his death got, more people were able to hear his music. And that what spiked their popularity to new heights? I honestly doubt it. But the point is. She wasn't saying that's why she detests it. She detests it because it became cool.

[CaptainAnarchy]

[SIZE=1][quote name='Manic]CaptainAnarchy, can you calm it down just a tad? We get that you like Nirvana [i]a lot[/i'], but some of your replies in their defense come off as a little... um... hyper.[/quote]
No prob....I drink lots of coke (the beverage of course)...therefore I am quite hyper. But its mostly just my obsession with Nirvana that makes me umm...jump onto peoples heads when they insult them...[/SIZE]

[Queen Asuka]

[QUOTE=Blinky]Maybe in that instance but she has a history of bitching about stuff becoming mainstream.

But, is it possible, that maybe, they didn't start liking it because he died. But they started due to the publicity his death got, more people were able to hear his music. And that what spiked their popularity to new heights? I honestly doubt it. But the point is. She wasn't saying that's why she detests it. She detests it because it became cool.[/QUOTE]

[color=hotpink][size=1]What the hell are you talking about? I'm glad you know me SO well.

I don't detest Nirvana in the least. They are definately up there on my list of favorite bands. Like I said, I have a couple of their albums and I have a few T-shirts that I wear from time to time. What I was saying is that it is so SAD that Nirvana became EXTREMELY popular once Kurt was dead. Do you know see that at all? Look at the other bands of the era. If Eddie Veddar had killed himself, maybe Pearl Jam would be as popular today as Nirvana. Nirvana is a great great great band. All I was trying to say is that they aren't the best there is. I have my opinions, the other guys has his. Next time don't act like you know who I am.[/color][/size]

[Miryoku]

I personaly love nirvana. they are the best dang grunge band that thare ever was and any one who thinks differently will have to take it up with me, and captainanarchy of course. Their music unforgetable. Their sound unique. Their style perfect. and thats all i have to say about that.

[CaptainAnarchy]

[SIZE=1]Don't you love on track 7 on Nevermind, when it goes:
Come on people now,
Smile on your brother,
Everybody get together,
Try to love one another,
Right nowwwwww!

Right before the song? Its sang sooo funnily (is that a word?) and I crack up badly every time I hear it.[/SIZE]

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]And what's so great about it is that it is not even original lyrics.[/color][/size]

[CaptainAnarchy]

I listened it alice in chains...its pretty OK.

[I, Colossus]

[QUOTE=Queen Asuka][color=hotpink][size=1]What the hell are you talking about? I'm glad you know me SO well.

I don't detest Nirvana in the least. They are definately up there on my list of favorite bands. Like I said, I have a couple of their albums and I have a few T-shirts that I wear from time to time. What I was saying is that it is so SAD that Nirvana became EXTREMELY popular once Kurt was dead. Do you know see that at all? Look at the other bands of the era. If Eddie Veddar had killed himself, maybe Pearl Jam would be as popular today as Nirvana. Nirvana is a great great great band. All I was trying to say is that they aren't the best there is. I have my opinions, the other guys has his. Next time don't act like you know who I am.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]

I just wrote up a huge post, but it was really asshole-ish. I'm trying to word it in the right way. You're right. You didn't say you detested Nirvana. I get that you still like them. I'm having trouble wording what I mean to say though.

Basically, in your post, you were mad because more people liked Nirvana, because of Kurt's death. But as I said in my last post. Maybe publicity just got them out more, and it became "COOL" because more people heard them and realised they kick ***. You're right. If Eddie Veddar killed himself Pearl Jam would be more popular. But whenever someone dies in a band, more people pay attention to them. Happened with Drowning Pool, at least locally.

So, what I'm trying to say is, I wasn't acting like I knew who you were, I was basing an opinion off of past remarks. Particularly in the "Mainstream Anime" thread.

There you go. I half agree, but...I half dont.