Is hell?

[desertranger]

[SIZE=1]I think I was asking this when the phones went out during a storm a couple of weeks ago.[/SIZE]

[COLOR=Green]I very much enjoy the philosophical discussions here. So in an effort to involve physics(?) in the discussion I would like to ask:[/COLOR]


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[FONT=book antiqua][size=4] Is hell [COLOR=Red]Endothermic [/color][/SIZE][SIZE=1]absorbs heat [/SIZE] [size=4]or[/size] [size=4][COLOR=dodgerblue]Exothermic[/color] [/SIZE][SIZE=1]radiates heat[/size][size=4]?[/SIZE][/font][/center]

[MissWem]

[COLOR=DarkRed]As a student who is close to failing Physics however does well in Chemistry (This is a typical chemistry question) I would say it was exothermic.

If it were endothermic, that would make hell contrary to the popular belief that it is a sauna and rather would make it a cold place, much like Antarctica.

Hell is suppose to be hot isn't it?[/COLOR]

[WW2]

Umm...thats a very good question, but I'm afraid I do not know the answer. If I had to guess Hell, being the bad place/state of being its suposed to be and defying all physics, would be both Endo and Exothermic.
At one point it'll drain/absorb all the heat, then suddenly switch. This would go on and on forever, becoming very annoying.

But thats just my opinion. If Dante was here, I'd ask him.

[Retribution]

It would be exothermic, but since hell isn't in the universe, it might not follow our laws of physics.

Heat always goes from hot to cold, therefore it would warm up whatever is not warm, making it a reaction giving off heat. Then again, you might want to think if hell is a physical place at all, rendering this question void.

[Brasil]

[quote]First, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion on average, we can predict that all people and all souls go to hell on average.

With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Thus, there are two possible conditions:

1) If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, than the temperature and pressure in hell will increase exponentially until all hell breaks loose.

-OR-

2) If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.

We can solve this (de)lemma with the 1990 postulation of Ms. Theresa LeClair, the woman who lived across the hall from me in first year residence. Since I have still not been successful in obtaining sexual relations with her, I know that condition two has not been met, and thus it can be concluded that condition one is true, and therefore that hell is exothermic.[/quote]
Found at: [url="http://www.psc.edu/~deerfiel/Jokes/pchem.html"]http://www.psc.edu/~deerfiel/Jokes/pchem.html[/url]

There's your answer. ^_^

[Retribution]

Souls have no mass. Therefore your theory is gone. If souls had mass, they would be able to be found within your body.

Besides, hell doesn't have to follow our laws of physics.

[TheShinje]

I would say Exothermic, seen as the Hell of the Bible destroys souls, not keeps them for all eternity. Souls can die*.

2 Peter 3:10 also says that earthly elements will burn up with a feverent heat.

There are also a number of other verses, particularly in revelation concerning hell actually burning, not freezing, lol. Thats why I reckon it's Exothermic.


[b]*[i]Ezekiel 18:4, Matthew 10:28[/i][/b]

[AzureWolf]

[FONT=book antiqua][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]Well, seeing as the universe will be no more, reduced to nothing, wouldn't Hell just be adiabatic? O_o I would have liked some more input from the thread creator, such as his opinion and his reasoning.

What a strange question to ask. Does it even have a real answer? And I don't even mean like one of those "we'll never know" types of answers, but is there an actual, plausible answer to this question?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[50 cent]

Well it can be both, because no one ever said hell was all fire and brimstone. 50 out

[Adahn]

[font=Courier New][size=2][color=blue]First of all, in the context of the question (applying physical conditions to hell), saying, "Hell doesn't follow laws of physics." completely disregards the context of the original question (a choice between two opposite physical attributes) and is spam.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]Furthermore, most cases of exo/endothermicity deal with chemical reactions. Hell, therefore, must be a reaction. Since the souls burning in hell feel unimaginable heat (probably around the temp. of boiling water), how that heat is produced must be balanced in order to produce the correct temperature. Since most combustion reactions produce large amounts of energy that would excede a torturous temperature, the reactions must be balanced.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]Therefore, I would say that hell consists of an exothermic reaction in balance with an endothermic reaction to produce the heat required to keep the souls of the damned toasty and not charred.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]However, if you're going to pick away at things, the combination of the exothermic and endothermic reactions would be overall exothermic as is necessary to produce the energy.[/color][/size][/font]
[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff][/color][/size][/font]
[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]However (again), if the temperature of hell is normally low, an exothermic reaction would be required to heat it to get that nice toasty feeling, without an endothermic reaction because heat would be lost to the souls as they suffered.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]Hell, therefore, cannot be only endothermic, because a reaction would be required to produce the heat that an endothermic reaction would lower.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]Hell is either exothermic, or both exothermic and endothermic.[/color][/size][/font]

[MissWem]

[quote name='Adahn][font=Courier New][size=2][color=blue]Therefore, I would say that hell consists of an exothermic reaction in balance with an endothermic reaction to produce the heat required to keep the souls of the damned toasty and not charred. [/color][/size][/font'] [/quote]
[COLOR=DarkRed]You're saying Hell is an equilibrium reaction, why? Assuming it is meant to be a 'boiling' hot place it doesn't neccessarilly need an endothermic reaction to create heat. Afterall, like you said, the heat goes to the souls in order to inflict the feeling of burning pain, thus the [i]souls[/i] are endothermic, not hell.

If that were so then where's the endothermic reaction in a combustion reaction of say, carbon in oxygen? Heat is created, you can not reverse it and force it into an endothermic reaction because it's not an equilibrium reaction. Heat loss doesn't mean there is an endothermic reaction. Besides, in hell they probably have a giant fire place and small rooms and all the logged trees that died go there to make the place so freaky hot ^_~

Btw, the mods will decided if what's being said is spam. Saying that hell may not neccessarily follow our rules of physics sounds reasonable. We're talking about a religliously conceptual idea, not a fact.[/COLOR]

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=darkviolet]I saw this question in an email joke once.

Now one would have to assume for Hell to be endothermic or exothermic that there would first have to be a Hell. Some religions don't believe that there is indeed such a place. Either because that due to the law of Ying and Yang everything and everyone has both good and evil coexisting together or just because they don't believe that God could be so heartless. That said, Hell is neither endothermic or exothermic because it simply does not exist in the first place.

That type of philosophic stuff aside, I'm going to say that Hell is Exothermic because for many people that I know, cold is more agonizing to them than heat. So it would figure that a place where Christians believe is a place of eternal torment would be freezing cold instead of toasty warm, right?[/color]

[Adahn]

[quote name='DerelictDestiny][color=darkred]You're saying Hell is an equilibrium reaction, why? Assuming it is meant to be a 'boiling' hot place it doesn't neccessarilly need an endothermic reaction to create heat. Afterall, like you said, the heat goes to the souls in order to inflict the feeling of burning pain, thus the [i]souls[/i'] are endothermic, not hell.[color=#000000][/quote][/color][/color]
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[color=darkred][font=Courier New][size=2][color=blue]If the souls can't absorb enough heat, and the heat grows to a less torturous temperature, an endothermic reaction would be required to re-equilibrate the temperature.[/color][/size][/font]

[QUOTE=DerelictDestiny]
If that were so then where's the endothermic reaction in a combustion reaction of say, carbon in oxygen? Heat is created, you can not reverse it and force it into an endothermic reaction because it's not an equilibrium reaction. Heat loss doesn't mean there is an endothermic reaction. Besides, in hell they probably have a giant fire place and small rooms and all the logged trees that died go there to make the place so freaky hot ^_~[color=#000000][/QUOTE][/color]

[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]The endothermic reaction would not be the reverse of the combustion of a hydrocarbon. It would simply be a different reaction that requires energy to proceed.[/color][/size][/font]

[QUOTE=DerelictDestiny]
Btw, the mods will decided if what's being said is spam. Saying that hell may not neccessarily follow our rules of physics sounds reasonable. We're talking about a religliously conceptual idea, not a fact.[/color][/QUOTE][font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]We are discussing it in the context of physical attributes. To disregard that fact will cause the thread to go off-topic and ultimately cause it to be closed.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Courier New][size=2][color=#0000ff]EDIT: Umm, Chibi, if Hell is exothermic it is hot. If it is endothermic it is cold.[/color][/size][/font]

[MissWem]

[quote name='Adahn']If the souls can't absorb enough heat, and the heat grows to a less torturous temperature, an endothermic reaction would be required to re-equilibrate the temperature. [/quote]
[COLOR=DarkRed]The heat wouldn't become 'less torturous' unless the souls could became acclimated to it and last I checked hot things don't feel less hot unless your nerves were burnt off.

And if you took chemistry you would understand what I had meant by an equilibrium reaction where the reaction reaches a mid-point where no heat is absorbed nor lost because the reactants and products are in a state of static equilibrium. The only way to create an exothermic reaction is to put it under certain conditions such as adding more of one product/or reactant or pressure or by adding heat/cooling the system. So perhaps you're using the incorrect term in this instance..?[/COLOR]
[QUOTE]The endothermic reaction would not be the reverse of the combustion of a hydrocarbon. It would simply be a different reaction that requires energy to proceed. [/QUOTE]
[COLOR=DarkRed]Exothermic and endothermic are interrelated. The [i]opposite[/i] or heat loss (exothermic) is heat absorption (endothermic)[/COLOR]

[desertranger]

[quote="Siren"]

1) If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, than the temperature and pressure in hell will increase exponentially until all hell breaks loose.

-OR-

2) If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over[/quote]

[quote]The following is an actual question given on a University of
Washington chemistry mid term.

The answer by one student was so "profound" that the
professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is,
of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well.

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic
(absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law,(gas cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that...[/quote]


Thank you Siren, I was wondering if someone would find that. I have had that for four years and found it when cleaning dirs a few weeks ago.

So the awards.
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Siren gets 5 stars for research. and 2 bonus starts for not plagerising her?/his? answer.
ChibiHorsewoman gets 4 stars for imagination.[quote]Christians believe is a place of eternal torment would be freezing cold instead of toasty warm, right?[/quote]

Adahn gets 3 star for his normally confusing and contradictory answer.

Everybody who answered gets 5 stars just for posting. Thank you for your efforts.

My answer: Hell is that place where your worst nightmares are buried.
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