Anime Gundam Seed Vs. Neon Genesis Evangelion: Who Would Win?

[KiraStrike29]

I have always loved anime with giant robots and i have always wondered ; what if Kiras Strike or Freedom Gundams were to take on Eva units 1,2 or 3. Personally i would put my money on the Freedom Gundam do to the fact it is powered by a nuclear reactor so it wont run out of energy like the Strike or the Eva units. Please everyone let me know what you think?

[EVA Unit 100]

The EVA units don't run out of energy. They're [spoiler]alive[/spoiler].

Anyway, the EVAs would win ([spoiler]although Unit 03 was infected by the virus that turned it into an angel and had to be destroyed soon afterwards[/spoiler]) in the battle. However, I'm afraid that the mods might end up closing this thread due to not wanting too many "Who Would Win?" threads. Before that happens, I think I might want to change the topic of this thread to whether Gundam SEED or Evangelion is the better show. It's an interesting comparison: both are mecha series, both psuedo-remakes of older series, both deal with heavy themes. Personally, while EVA is overall the better show (i.e. better plot, more dramatic, funnier, makes you think more, etc.), I have to say Gundam SEED has amazing characters and is a faithful remake of the original Gundam.

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[Retribution]

I haven't watched enough Evangelion to make a fair judgement, but from what I've seen, Gundam SEED would have a good time of killing EVA. The Gundams are far faster, more agile, and have more advanced weaponry than an EVA unit. Not to mention that Kira and Athrun are both Newtypes, already giving them a very pronounced upper hand. When Kira or Athrun enter their Seed Modes, the EVAs would be mince meat, because as far as I can tell, they use primitive weapons such as assault rifles, metal melee weapons, etc, while Gundams have beam technology, such as Kira's [spoiler]reallly really long beam lance that killed Raww le Kruze[/spoiler] beam saber, beam rifles, etc.

And the very fact that the EVA units are [spoiler]alive, and linked to their pilot thru a sync would prove very bad in combat. If they get shot in the leg, they feel that pain. If their suit gets stabbed, they feel it. A gundam pilot doesn't have that link, therefore he/she can go on fighting more effectively.[/spoiler]

Not really a discussion IMO.

[KiraStrike29]

as far as which series is better i would have to say gundam seed is the winner. my reasoning behind this is that i believe that the story is much better. evangelion has a great story line, but at times i think it is too complex. also the characters in seed seem more real. they are constantly showing their emotions.thats just my opinion, anyway.

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

The EVA units are ridiculously powerful; I don't see a Gundam unit taking down an EVA at all. For one thing the EVAs are about four times taller and as agile as ninja (yeah, more than Gundams; don't let the tricky camera angles fool you). Secondly they have the AT field, meaning just about nothing will go through as long as they're piloted well. Including stupid buster rifles.

Indeed, the EVA's weaknesses lie solely within their pilots. If Batman piloted an EVA, nobody would stand a chance. Shinji would sometimes kick butt and sometimes just whimper. Asuka, though, would tear apart any Gundam any time any day.

To defeat an EVA you have to cut off its power cable and hope the EVA doesn't go berserk on your *** afterwards. If it has an S2 engine, kiss your arse goodbye.

Gundams could only stand a small chance with cunning strategy (which is not fair to take into account because the EVAs always have NERV developing strategies for them to take on whatever). As far as brute force goes, the EVAs are easily superior. I forget where I heard it but it's true: a nuke won't even chip an EVA's paint.

You'd be better off comparing Gundams to the Arbalest from Full Metal Panic!, assuming the Arbalest's Lambda Driver functions properly and is actually utilized.

[Delta]

[COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=1][quote name='Altron]And the very fact that the EVA units are [spoiler']alive, and linked to their pilot thru a sync would prove very bad in combat. If they get shot in the leg, they feel that pain. If their suit gets stabbed, they feel it. A gundam pilot doesn't have that link, therefore he/she can go on fighting more effectively.[/spoiler][/quote]
Pilot : Gundam suit :: Man : Messed up nervous system
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[Endymion]

[COLOR=Navy][SIZE=1]I'm fairly certain that an evangelion would demolish any mobile suit from Gundam Seed. An evangelion's maneuverability surpasses that of a gundam, like ScirosDarkblade mentioned, they're as agile as ninja. A gundam could cut the evangelion's power cord, but they would have to prolong the battle long enough for the plan to work. I'm sure if my cord was severed, that gundam is going to be in a grave in less than 5 minutes... As for weaponry, gundams have that beam-technology whereas evangelions use more modern weaponry. It doesn't matter if your hitting a gundam with a beam or with ammunition, its still going to do damage. Evangelions have their trusty AT fields, so any ranged combat would probably be futile from the gundam when its up. Close combat, I'd say an evangelion would win hands down. Well, unless you have some peace loving, non-violent kitten in the entry plug...

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[Twilight_Kioku]

eva 01 would win because of its S2 engine. thing has an unlimited power supply and some pretty strong armor(restraints), and it is a berzerker. some of the seed pilots can also go berzerk, but they dont have a sync ratio with the gundams. 400% is pretty damn good, but not the consequences.

[[SKY KEEPER]]

Even though how much I like SEED, I do have to admit that even Kira or Raw can't beat the EVAs'. Sure any NJC-equipped Gundams can fly around a 1000 times more than the Energizer Bunny, cut the EVAs' power cords, and wait for the EVAs to run out of energy, 01 may go berserk like the first ep. and activates without energy, and with several good aimed fires, the Gundams will come down one by one in no time.

@ Altron: Kira and Asuran are coordinators, not newtypes. Mwu and Raw are the newtypes in SEED.

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

An EVA unit equipped with the S2 engine doesn't even have a power cord. It has a perpetual source of power built right in, meaning it's virtually unbeatable except by another EVA.

[kenshin91785]

I think Gundam Seed's Gundams would be the winner by far, they have no support line like the Eva's. Also I think Gundam Seed is a much better series, it is in my opinion that the battles and storyline are alot better in Gundam Seed way surpass Neon Genesis Evangelion.

[Domon]

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]In all honesty, if you wanna compare mechs to EVA I suggest you compare Rahxephon, [SPOILER]seeing as how the Rahxephon eventually becomes a living being.[/SPOILER] I see it this way, EVA= big mech that has butt kicking powers and Rahxephon= big mech that has butt kicking powers. Personally, if Ayato and Shinji were to get into it I think it might end up as a tie [SPOILER]seeing as how both mechs seem to have a very powerful form when they "evolve". I mean the Rahxephon when fully merged with Ayato is just flat out destructive and I can only assume that the EVAs when going beserk are just as dangerous.[/SPOILER] Although I'm a gundam lover I really have to agree, a gundam would get owned by an EVA unit.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Dagger]

[quote name='Domon][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1]In all honesty, if you wanna compare mechs to EVA I suggest you compare Rahxephon, [SPOILER]seeing as how the Rahxephon eventually becomes a living being.[/SPOILER] I see it this way, EVA= big mech that has butt kicking powers and Rahxephon= big mech that has butt kicking powers. Personally, if Ayato and Shinji were to get into it I think it might end up as a tie [SPOILER]seeing as how both mechs seem to have a very powerful form when they "evolve". I mean the Rahxephon when fully merged with Ayato is just flat out destructive and I can only assume that the EVAs when going beserk are just as dangerous.[/SPOILER] Although I'm a gundam lover I really have to agree, a gundam would get owned by an EVA unit.[/SIZE'][/COLOR][/quote]

That's a great point, and (in my opinion, at least) a much more valid comparison. [spoiler]In its evolved form, Ayato's RahXephon is virtually indestructible--it even manages to defeat the alternate RahXephon that merged with Quon. So I think a fight between the RahXephon and an EVA unit, in either their first or final incarnations, would last much longer than a fight between an EVA and one of SEED's Gundams.[/spoiler]

And for the record, the RahXephon would also be up to the task of owning a Gundam. You'd need a whole fleet of Gundams to even dream of going up against the titular mecha of either RahXephon or Evangelion. ;)

~Dagger~

[pbfrontmanvdp]

First off....as much as I love Gundam, Rah, and Eva, the Gundams wouldn't be able to defeat either the Eva's or Ayato's Xephon. Probably the easiest reason is that the Gundam's don't have a mind of its own (which i will explain in the next sentence) and both the Eva's and Xephon have inorganic parts to it. Also, the pilots are in sync in both the Eva's and Xephon's; thus the pilots can bring out their full potential in them.

One thing that i think would be a good question is what if the Eva's were to fight the Dolems and the Xephons (meaning Ayato's and Quon's) were to fight the Angels. I wonder what the outcome of that would be and how would have an easier time defeating the other sides enemies. I don't know its just a r[font=Times New Roman]hetorical question.[/font]

[KiraStrike29]

in response to what darksesshoumaru said about the weapons, arent you forgetting about the phase shift armor which makes normal projectile weaopns and blades useless because they cannot penetrate the armor. so if you base it on weapons and armor alone then the gundams easily win.the eva units wouldnt be able to get past the armor on the gundams.

[Domon]

[SIZE=1]Okay, I must contradict this. If the SEED gundams were to activate their Phase Shift armor all the EVA units would have to do would just sit back and wait for the batteries to go dead seeing as how the armor is a massive drain on the gundam's reactor. In all fairness I don't think the EVAs just hauling off and backhanding a gundam a melee weapon, its more like just getting royally smacked across a city.

But again since both the EVA pilots and RahXephon pilots are in sync with their mechs they really just need to dodge until the gundam shuts down when the armor has drained the reactor enough.[/SIZE]

[Guest ScirosDarkblade]

Yeah, come on guys. This is totally a mismatch; I can't believe it's still really being discussed. Misato said it herself: she's a girl with 3 EVAs; she could take over the world if she wanted to.

There's only one way to have a Gundam stand a chance against an EVA.

Have Batman pilot it.

Yup, that's the only way. Batman can hold his own against Darkseid, and I can't say the odds are any worse in the case of the mechs. It's not just brute force; it's resourcefulness and cleverness and just plain Batmannishness.

So yeah, here's the new matchup.
EVA vs Rahxephon mech vs Batman Gundam

(Batman would likely modify his Gundam using Waynetech/JLA technology, but that might be unfair to bring up, because JLA technology can be whatever the heck you want it to be, heh.)

[KiraStrike29]

it is true that most of the gundams would run out of power, however you are forgetting about the freedom and justice gundams which have nuclear reactors, which means they wont run out of power. the phase shift would be active the whole battle which would spell trouble for the eva units.

[SaiyanDestroya]

This argument should not even be taking place. EVA's are the pinnacle of evolution as quoted from someone in the series(forget who). Gundam's are in a general sense nothing more then Robots with pilots. Eva's are living biological weapons, the "pilots" of a eva are there to merely attempt to keep control of the unit. With AT Fields, Dummy Plugs, and Berserker mode, the gundams fail to compare.

And I don't know who said the Eva's have primitive weaponry, but your sadly mistaken. Have we forgotten about the Lance of Loginus? What about the energy cannon that draws the electrical output and energy of an entire city?...

The argument just doesn't make sense.

[Guest ZeroAnime]

well i luv gundam and evangelion, but Kira is just a little whiner he has no sweet skills. He is nuthing to the other series pilots. Heero YUY would kill Kira in about 2secs, if that long. So evangelion is way better when it come to Evangelion vs, Gundam SEED. but if evangelion ws up against another series like 08th ms team, then it would no hands down goto 08th ms Shiro was the best. Cya :D

[Hittokiri Zero]

[quote]Okay, I must contradict this. If the SEED gundams were to activate their Phase Shift armor all the EVA units would have to do would just sit back and wait for the batteries to go dead seeing as how the armor is a massive drain on the gundam's reactor. In all fairness I don't think the EVAs just hauling off and backhanding a gundam a melee weapon, its more like just getting royally smacked across a city.[/quote]

Right that's only true for the original five gundams in Gundam SEED; because of Freedom, Justice, and Providence's neutron jammer cancelers they're able to use their phase shift for as long as they want... The beauty of nuclear power, ay?

Raider Calamity, and Forbidden Gundam also utilize Trans-phaseshift armor so
there energy isn't as easily wasted... Then there are the different Astray Varients which for the most part are great not because of their design or specs. but because of their pilots and the strategy that goes into what they do (ever read the Astray Manga? I highly reccomend it).

Anyway putting that aside... I really hate comparing different anime series like this because there are way to many what "ifs". But putting all of those aside I honestly believe a Gundam from Gundam SEED is stronger than a EVA. *Note* I said stronger, not that the Gundam would neccessarily win. It all depends on who is piloting what but Kira in his Freedom Gundam or even Athrun in Justice just literally seem as though they would be able to overpower anything the EVA's and EVA pilots could throw at them.

[MoNO]

I would say that gundams will kill the eva's, also the gundams are much more manuverable and more heavily armed. Personally i say that the whole eva series is totally retarded the look like giant horny lizards. Thats just my decision and with the freedom gundam and attackin more than one oponent at a time prolly could take on all the eva's at once.

[KiraStrike29]

it is true that kira is a bit of a whiner but if he were to go into seed mode he could destroy any gundam hes put up against. he was constantly givin the la kruese team a beat down mostly by himself.

[Hayama]

I'm specifically defending Kira's Gundam versus unit 01 because I want to get into specifics of each machine...
I think Eva unit 01 would win for sure! But, my explanation is practically all Evangelion spoilers so be careful! This why: Kira's Gundam (either one) is [I]just[/I] a machine, even if it is nuclear powered. [spoiler] The Eva's are ALIVE. Unit 01 has even shown that it can think for its self. Plus, once unit 01 ate the S2 engine the people at NERVE couldn't turn it off so I'm pretty sure it doesn't need batteries anymore. [/spoiler] I also think the Gundams' phase shift armor would be no match for the Evas' AT fields.

As for the pilots... I love them both! (but I love Shinji more :catgirl: ) They are BOTH crybabies but they both grow over the course of thier series. I think that Shinji in a bad mood, combined with his high sinc rate with Eva unit 01, could take Kira in SEED mode.

On a side note... I wonder if Shiro of 08thMS team (I love that show)[I]could[/I] beat Shinji... Shiro did kick ***, even in that crappy ball... Oh well, Shinji would still win I think!

[Guest LacusClyne Haru]

I am a messenger of peace and here to remind you that war is not the answer. More importantly i'm here to say that dispite the fact that kira is a huuge crybaby and literally cries every other episode he still kicks ***** in both the freedom and the stike not to mention he stops crying in G-Seed destiny. In conclution as Lacus Clyne said "Good bye I certianly look forwardto the day that you and I meet again."