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[SIZE=1][B]Yeah, I hate those fu**ers. Who do they think they are? Now I?m posting this because today I?m sick of it, and I won?t fight them back. I don?t have confidence enough anymore, I?m a coward, and I?ll admit it. I?m a coward, I never used to be, but things change. When I?m with my friends, I have confidence, but when I?m alone and facing one of them I?m a cowardly dog who?d hang her tail and head and let them get away with whatever they do. Yeah, a coward, because of them.

Today I was stood waiting for my brother from school, he was late again. When I?m stood alone on the streets near schools I say silent, I don?t look at people because I?m afraid. I never knew why, but I did know today. Someone on the other side of the road walked past, and shouted over at me. I just looked at them, and glanced back to see if my brother was coming. She then shouted over ?What are you looking at you b**ch?? I didn?t reply. When I was looking up and down the road I saw her pick up a rock and throw it at me, but it missed. I just looked at the road and did nothing. She threw two more which also missed. And then she threw the forth, and it hit me, right in more forehead. It hurt but I didn?t cry, and normally I would go and chase them as they ran away laughing, but I didn?t. What did I do? What a fu**ing coward would do, I ran the other way (walked, rather) and hung my head. The blood scared me and they do. I hate them.

Not just bullies, but them who show off and look for a fight. A fight with people they can intimidate because they know that the person had lost their confidence in secondary school, smart, aren?t they? No, they?re pitiful bastards who?ll have no life, and I hate them for what they are. Back when I was about 11 or 10 I?d kick someone down for provoking me, and I wouldn?t blame a person for hitting me if I provoked them, no I wouldn?t. I never had a fight in school, I never tried to start them, but I did get a few hits and had to hit them back and I did try to intimidate others, but I don?t do it like those idiots do.

I?m just saying all this because I?m sick of it. When I got into high school I was okay at first, but then everything got out of hand. The kids who bullied people intimidated you, and you lost your confidence, then you lost everything. I lost everything I had when it came to defending myself; I won?t even punch someone jokingly anymore. It?s just not fair. Why do they always have to come and bully others because it?s good for them? Yeah, they?re real tough, let?s go beat up a kid on their own and show the others not to mess with us. Let?s go and throw a rock at a kid because she?s looking at us for one tiny fraction of a second. Let?s go and scare them out of school, and ruin their lives because ours won?t get anywhere. That?s what they would think if they had anything in that thick balloon they call a head.

They won?t leave me alone, either, and I hate them for it. I don?t even know half of them; I didn?t know the girl who threw the rock. They ask questions that they know are another form of mockery and teasing, just to be funny and just to make a mockery out of you. I?ll mock them if I wasn?t such a dog of a coward. They can prove that I?m a coward just by shouting my name followed by a nasty word because I?d be afraid to look at them. I wouldn?t mind if they had brains and hurt/annoyed/teased people because they were provoked, but when they do it to me and other people for no reason? it pi**es me off.

But who am I to say anything? I?m just someone who got it easy; others get it harder. Yep, just another person I guess. But you know what?s hard for me? I was never afraid of people like them; I would retaliate even though I knew I shouldn?t because it?s wrong. I could?ve and would?ve, but I won?t anymore. Too much of a coward. That hurts me more than any rock, any punch in a bruised arm, any name they can call me, anything? I based most of what I like to write on Heroes who have no fear, I base most of my RPG?s characters and fearless warriors or nice people who AREN?T cowards? I even used to train with myself because I wanted to be strong, but are strong people, fighters, people who have at least some good fighting skill, are they cowards? Do writers base everything about their characters on themselves? Most of the time? but I?m a coward, I have as much right as they do.

?I?m going off track a little.

My point is that I hate these people. I hate them? they changed me? again, I?ve had my life changed before because of THEM! Forced? sometimes. Too coward to even look at them, too afraid. I can fight them but I won?t! I just won?t, I?m afraid. I have no ego. I have no courage and I have no right to even talk about them as dogs, but I am. They pi** me off too much, I won?t stand for it. It?s not fair. They hurt me not by names or rocks, sticks or stones, but by their own ability to make me more of a coward the more they threaten me, and the more they pretend to hate me.

You know what? F**k them. And God help everyone who?s had it like me and harder, God help them indeed. And when I?m older, when I?m still a coward I?ll have something, my knowledge and my talents which they?ll never have. I would kill them now if I weren?t a coward, I would? I would, but I can?t. I say let them live through their future, a horrible life because they hated people they didn?t know at school. And when they die, old, helpless and ruined, I?ll stand at their grave, curse them and spit at what?s left. All because of a few rocks and a few name-callings? No, not that. Just for making everyone a misery. They have no right; I don?t give a f**k about myself, and just everyone else they hurt even more. If I would do something then I would, but I?m just a kid who got off easy and lost her own courage, just a kid.

I won?t stand it anymore, though. I?m sick of them thinking they?re so big and bad, they?re not! They?re not! And I?ll teach them a lesson. Even if I have to take a knife in and stab it through they?re heart. I may feel remorse, but not like them. They provoked me. You provoke a lion, it kills you. It?s not its fault, it?s yours. In the past this coward has dealt with it? with them. When they hurt others it hurts me more. I can?t help my friend, I can?t stick up for them? too much of a coward. I sometimes even agree with those morons just to save my own skin. I?m only 12? and if it?s this bad now, what will I be like when I?m older? Much more of a coward, yes, but what else?

?What was going to say? Ah. I want to here what problems you have with these idiots. Frankly I can?t take it. It?s too unfair, and if you?re someone like me it?ll drive you nuts. So? I?d like anything you have on the issue, even some advice for me? how to deal with them. Oh, and all through this I?ve called them? them? and whom do I mean exactly? Bullies, show-offs, a**holes, idiots, ruined brain-less primitive apes who try to make life hell for most of us. And this is what this coward has to say about them: They?re not better than me in some ways, in most, actually, but they are better than me? in ways...

(I apologise for rambling on for three pages of a word document, but I?m just annoyed, sorry about the corny title too? and I also apologise for all the bad language).[/B][/SIZE]
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[quote name='vicky][SIZE=1][B] I hate them? they changed me? again, I?ve had my life changed before because of THEM! Forced? sometimes. Too coward to even look at them, too afraid. I can fight them but I won?t! I just won?t, I?m afraid.[/B'][/SIZE][/quote]

No. You changed yourself. You decided to become a 'coward.' The [i]least[/i], the [i]very least[/i] you could do is stand up for yourself, tell them the corny, cliche crap like:

I'm not afraid of you.

Yes. Try that. I'll guarruntee it'll escalate into a fight, at least a scuffle. The best thing is, is that they won't take you for a punk @** b****. (excuse the language) They'll actually think twice about screwin around with you again, knowing that you won't take the crap from them without resistance.

Personally, I'm like you. I try not to fight. But when it comes down to it, if people do that kind of stuff, I'll fight them. Unless they're Arnold Schwartzaneggar, or will clearly beat the living bajeezuz out of me. My idea next time they mess with you: Throw some rocks back. Stand your ground. Give them the finger. Don't be afraid of jerks like these.

I know I sound mean, but really, if you're too afraid to stand up for yourself -- or at least get outside help -- you really are a coward. Too afraid to stand up on your [b]own[/b] behalf? Seriously now, if you can't stand up for yourself, you won't be able to help anyone else, defend anyone else. Personally, you should reconsider making this thread a 'venting' post. Get real. Get advice or something.

I remember once when I was a freshman, this sophmore was pushing me around all the time. I fought back. And he stayed away from me. Forever.

Another guy was shoving me around like trash in the locker room, laughing with his friends about it. I knocked the taste out of his mouth. Forever. He fell to the ground, and walked away. After that, he's been my pseudo-friend. Always acting nice to me. He really could've killed me in that fight, but he decided not to. I guess he valued that I stood up for my own tail in enemy territory.

Stand up, and fight the oppressor. That's how America got started.
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P.S. Read your own avatar. I guarruntee you that Tim can kick major butt.
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If this is going on on school property, then go talk to the principle about it.

If it is not on school property, report them to the local police office.

Throwing rocks at people so hard they bleed has a name in this country: assault and battery. You don't need to just take it and you don't need to get in a fight. Report them to the proper authorities.

By the way, I went through a lot of the same stuff at your age. Your post looks like something I could have written back in the day. It sucks, a lot, I know. But things will get better. Don't commit murder over it, even though, believe me, I understand the desire. There is nothing cowardly about avoiding conflict when possible. Talk to your parents or guardian, talk to the principle, or talk to the police.

Oh, and Tim totally kicks butt. ;)
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"A good fighter is one who seeks a peaceful route instead of the violent one. Those who seek glory by shedding blood are no better then plagues, and those who gain glory by defending what they believe in are rivals of the gods themselves."

When I heard these words from my trainer, I didnt understand, but I think I do now. Anyone who believes that they are better because they can throw a punch at someone dont deserve life. Your only a coward if you abandon all you believe in. Backing down from a fight, or even taking a beating is not cowardice. Cowards pick on those weaker then them. Its true, you were afraid, and if it shames you that you abandon your friends to save yourself, it just proves that you are human. Fear is useless to those who deny it, and those who embrace it dont fully understand it. You should awknowledge your fear, dont ignore it, but dont let it win the fight. If they have to hurt others to feel good about themselves, then I hope they pick on the wrong person and get a beating. They arent better then you in any way, shape, or form. Fools who deserve death shall leap into the arms of death. Your afraid of them, yes. I have never entered a fight without shaking with fear. But I know that even if I lose, I'll put up one hell of a brawl before I go down.

I truly hope you meet better people in you life. Fear should not defile those who dont deserve it.
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I had the same problem at one time i don't like to fight back but one day i had enough and itold them that the were nothing but cowardous s**t. they are the cowards not you. they are the ones who are insucure in society and think they have to prove them selves. Don't take it you don't have to resort to violence but don't take it. when they are alone thinking to them selves they know that they are just worthless ba**ards. you are way better than they are and just remember that next time one of those fu**rs tries to hurt you. don't let it hurt you mentaly you are not a coward you just think you are, avoiding further conflict is not cowardous it intelegent. most of them never have and never will have any form of intelegence their just plastic people brain washd by their perverted peers.
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[QUOTE=Altron]
I know I sound mean, but really, if you're too afraid to stand up for yourself -- or at least get outside help -- you really are a coward. Too afraid to stand up on your [b]own[/b] behalf? Seriously now, if you can't stand up for yourself, you won't be able to help anyone else, defend anyone else.
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[color=indigo][size=1]I think she was courageous in ignoring the girl. Giving into their[bullies] attention only lowers you onto their level. And that is being cowardly. Stooping as low as to "name-calling" or throwing rocks for f**k's sake, is immature and mirrors the bully.

Vicky, I know it hurts to be treated like that, but girls like her are more of a coward than you may think you are (which you are not). People like that are all talk and no balls. I think you did the right thing by ignoring her. She'll go on with her life without the dignity to [b]walk across the way[/b] to smack her gums in your face. Instead, she was the f***ing coward who [b]threw[/b] rocks at you from a distance. Doesn't that say something to you, sweety?

It was brave and bold of you to take her crap, no matter how embarassing and painful it was. You took it like a mature adult, not some sniveling teen.

Do not badger yourself for this, Vicky. It is not worth it at all. That girl was the coward here, not you.[/size][/color]
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[color=hotpink][size=1]I am sorry that you're going through this right now. There was once this girl in my school (she eventually dropped out, imagine that) when I was in middle/high school and she used to always try to pick fights with people, especially on the bus. She thought she was so much better than everyone, but we all hated her and made fun of her because she looked like a rat. She started picking on my little sister and trying to fight with her, among other people. Finally, my friend ended up getting really pissed and got off the bus at her bus stop. That girl ran all the way home and then locked the door and wouldn't open it. So mainly she was all talk. And I think that a lot of people like that are, and will take advantage of you if you don't fight back. So yeah, do what you gotta do, but don't let them run all over you.[/color][/size]
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[QUOTE=Altron]No. You changed yourself. You decided to become a 'coward.' The [i]least[/i], the [i]very least[/i] you could do is stand up for yourself, tell them the corny, cliche crap like:

I'm not afraid of you.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][B]Yes, I changed myself for my own good. When they know you're different they get worse and worse and later see you as so different you should be tought something, a lesson in their own pathetic way. I didn't want to lose any of my teeth (since I already lost the bottom tooth and I have braces because of that I'm not willing to get my mouth sorted out with more braces for longer), and I don't want to go to hospital with a black eye, scratchs, bruises or anything broken. You change they might leave you alone, you don't then there's no chance, they make it worse for you. Well... it does happen that way in my school. Telling people doesn't work because others join in, and later if you even look or glance at them your head goes through the school gates. I changed for my own good.

There's also the problem that if you do get in a fight with them they won't take you to be a punk anymore, they'll take you to be dangerous and a good chance to kick the crap out of someone easily but outnumbering them. Family members, older brothers and sisters, friends, they'd all join in and smash your head in for even punching the person who attacked you. They're not likely to back off, not likely at all. They'll come back, for more, or just for the fun.[/SIZE][/B]

[quote name='Altron]I know I sound mean, but really, if you're too afraid to stand up for yourself -- or at least get outside help -- you really are a coward. Too afraid to stand up on your [b]own[/b'] behalf? Seriously now, if you can't stand up for yourself, you won't be able to help anyone else, defend anyone else. Personally, you should reconsider making this thread a 'venting' post. Get real. Get advice or something[/quote]

[SIZE=1][B]There's a problem there. Half the people from the schools near Weaste Lane are in the lower sets and lower forms, and you know what they're like? Most are tougher than an titanium safe. If I fought back against three people, out numbered and maybe even outpowered then I wouldn't be here typing this. That's what I fear. Too strong, too many for me too take on. My brother's stronger than me and they might be stronger than him, I just don't know. If I started a fight and they were stronger but it was one on one they'd might win anyway because they've (most likely) been in more fights than me. And it doesn't just stop at a beating. It's just scary how no one in my school (Or Hope High or Buille Hill, too schools near mine) have never come back in for at least 2 weeks and more. The winner of the fight gives no mercy (depending on who they are), they'd keep kicking you, and they'd do worse. The teacher expell the troublemakers, but not them all. If you were part of the attack/fight and you seemed to be the cause for your own injuries then not much would happen.

And to make it even worse: it's on the streets, outside my school, yes, but not in my school. I didn't know who that kid was, I couldn't report them, I couldn't get them in trouble. I was lucky I didn't fight back, I think, because then I'd have more than a cut over my head and a bruise.

I guess they are also a coward for throwing rocks from a distance, Annie, but then again they might have done it just because it was effective, then again maybe not.

Maybe she was all talk, but I wouldn't have the guts to stand up to her anyhow and I don't want to find out if she is all talk. I'll do what I have to do like Queen Asuka said, and I'll try not to let them run all over me, but I do it without running OR hitting them (how that's possible I have no idea, I'll just test it... whenever they start again).

Thanks anyway for the advice and comments, and to everyone who said that Tim can kick butt: Indeed he can, but this Robin (aka... Me, since when I became a "Robin" is beyond me) is to afraid to right now.[/SIZE][/B]
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[QUOTE=Xander Harris]If this is going on on school property, then go talk to the principle about it.

If it is not on school property, report them to the local police office.

Throwing rocks at people so hard they bleed has a name in this country: assault and battery. You don't need to just take it and you don't need to get in a fight. Report them to the proper authorities.

By the way, I went through a lot of the same stuff at your age. Your post looks like something I could have written back in the day. It sucks, a lot, I know. But things will get better. Don't commit murder over it, even though, believe me, I understand the desire. There is nothing cowardly about avoiding conflict when possible. Talk to your parents or guardian, talk to the principle, or talk to the police.[/QUOTE]Very good advice. I know most people think it's babyish to ask an adult to step in. I sometimes think that way too when someone makes fun of me. But if the problem is [B]physical harrasement[/B] you have to ask someone for help. You could get really hurt! And don't just come up with snappy comebacks either if it will result in a fight. Don't allow those jerks to lay a finger on you anymore (or throw stuff at you in your case), because they have absolutely no right to. Report them to your principal or the police.
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[font=Trebuchet MS]The thing is, there are a lot of people like this. And, unfortunately, they tend to rise up the 'popularity' ranks at schools for some odd reason. I've never been bullied physically, and if someone had thrown something at me and had drawn blood, nothing would stop me from decking them (and if they look tough, grabbing the nearest solid object). I know that really isn't the best idea, but I think it's how I'd react. Pushing bullying to the physical level is stepping even further across the line of what is right and wrong.

Now, to personal experience, the most recently of which was a new kid in my grade, who simply conformed to every single stereotype attitude of the kids who seemed to have the most control. Can you believe that in my grade, the word 'stupid' has virtually been replaced by Jewish? Yep. That's how utterly moronic my grade is. I know that the majority of them aren't really neo-nazis, but since when was it cool to act like one? The logic is tragically flawed.

So anyway, the conformist kid is now moderately 'popular'. He decided, about a week into the year, to start making fun of me because he saw a sort-of friend of mine doing it. Well, he failed to realize my friend was joking around and has adopted the undefeatable arrogant badass attitude of my grade as his own. Keep in mind, he is the most scrawny person you will [i]ever [/i]see, and he's claiming he can do these amazing feats of power. It's funny, really.

Being friends with certain people has kept me shielded from most of the bullying, though that's a stupid reason. Keep in mind, I only have friends who aren't idiots, and refuse to be around them if they start to act a hint like bigoted idiots. And apparently I wield a decent amount of power, because it always gets them to stop.

One of my best friends in my school is probably close to eight feet tall, and he gets more crap than I do. Why? He always has a book with him. Now I know that he [my friend] could flatten every single one of the people who make fun of him, but he has the good sense to ignore it and go on with his life. After all, the idiots that think it's cool to fail a class will end up serving your fast food in thirty years. That always comforts me, heh.
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[SIZE=1]I don't think you're a coward Vicky, not for one second, you showed courage in your own way by not giving in to them, and that at the end of the day is what's important. If you were to give into and believe me when I say I know where that leads you're only dropping yourself down to their level of being a petty thug, it's not somewhere you want to end up. You said you have confidence when you're in a group, what you need to do is transfer some of that confidence into yourself, ask your friends what's good about you, remember it and remember that they are your friends.

As for the rock throwing incident that is rather serious, if it occurred in the school then report it to the principle, if it occurred in the street then do not hesitate to speak to the police about it. Imagine what would have happened had that rock hit you somewhere else, the eye, the temple, there are plenty of places it could have hit you and done far more damage. Verbal abuse aside, though I do know how pain verbal abuse is, especially if it is sustained over a long period of time, that is a matter for the police. Honestly I hope you're able to get through this, these people aren't worth your time, group or not they are very small and insecure people how require the strength of the group to act like pricks.

Get them one at a time and just kick the living **** out of them and see how great the are, and when they run in terror, and believe me they will you'll feel one hell of a kick of satisfaction.[/SIZE]
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No. I think you should at least get help. From the cops, principal, other friends, etc. Don't just sit there and take it. Btw, are you a girl? If so, I think you could get a few male 'body guards,' and sik'em on the trouble makers. Heh. If you're a boy... you're out of luck. Because other males won't frighten these stupid f**ks.

And yes, I've heard people say things are Jewish. I want to clock them, mainly because the people who say this only do it because others are too. They probably don't recognize they are saying something a Nazi would. Most people who say "That's jewish" or "Don't be a jew" wouldnt've survived the Nazi holocaust. Idiots these days.
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[QUOTE=Altron]
And yes, I've heard people say things are Jewish. I want to clock them, mainly because the people who say this only do it because others are too. They probably don't recognize they are saying something a Nazi would. Most people who say "That's jewish" or "Don't be a jew" wouldnt've survived the Nazi holocaust. Idiots these days.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's a slang term I find quite offensive. I understand most people saying it aren't meaning it as a racial slur, just as an expression, but I still don't like people to say it.

And no, I'm not Jewish. ;)
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[color=darkslateblue] The fact that the girl had to throw FOUR rocks at you is proof enough that she's not even worth a second of your time. Just think about it in your head. The girl will probably not even finish high school, live around in some dump trying to provoke people for the rest of her sorry life, go around and have sex (probably get a STD or pregnant) and then die.

You on the other hand will have a sucessful life and the girl won't be worth anything.

I go through the same thing, except dealing with racial slurs, and has led to me have a huge discrimination against black people at my school, even though it's not fair of me to do so. But the best thing to do is to ignore them. Usually when you don't answer they'll call at you several more times, feel dumb, hide it by laughing with his/her friends, and then go away and harass some other poor kid. It's just personal gain and satisfaction that you'll feel in the end if you just ignore losers like these.

It's not really a matter of showing these jerks that you have to power to beat them up, squish them, or to show them your own power and make them feel inferior. If you beat up the next bully that encountered you, all you'd be doing is fulfilling the bully's goal of trying tp provoke you. Driving a knife through their heart will not change anything. People will still pick on you, do whatever they can to hurt you. Let me tell you something. You're only 12 years old, and you've gone through all this ****. If you're strong it will make you stronger. Get tough. You are better than all the losers that have picked on you by tenfold, even more, just keep that in mind.[/color]
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judging from what's happened to you, i'd say that girl is probably just too bored for her own good. so, i suppose she comes up with the brightest idea of just trying to pick a fight with some one. how much you want to bet that if you had gone after her she'd probably have been scraed out of her pants. such ignorant people are not worth any of your time. it's just a sign that some people in this world are just really not even worth being here. (im not wishing for any one to die though. that's not what im implying) ignoring her was a good thing, but then again. if she kept at it then if i were you, i would have given her what she deserved. this just shows you the types of fool in this world. i've never been bullied on before (probably cause people knew better and a old friend of mine was always there for me) but i have had friends who suffured from it. perhaps have some one be with you, two is always better than one as they'd say. *shrug* i guess it would work
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[QUOTE]"A good fighter is one who seeks a peaceful route instead of the violent one. Those who seek glory by shedding blood are no better then plagues, and those who gain glory by defending what they believe in are rivals of the gods themselves."[/QUOTE]
Well, you're partially right and you're partially wrong. See, I personally do not pick fights with people, and I AM (to my own luck probably) either speak my way out of the bully guys or just get away from the drunk ones. Now, there's no use in "sheddding blood" by yourself, but what if, say (hmm you're training ,so let it be) 7 idiots get to you ands try to get money from you or simply pick a fight AND you see no way to talk out or run away? (there's always one though, but such talking requires a dam' clear head and a snake's tongue, which is not always abot me 'cause I almost don't use too sleep which in turn lets me usually be the Sleepy Glitchy Me), dam' I lost the sense again but it is that, there are situations where you have to fight. It is no that you're gaining glory defending what you believe in (although for your personal self, it is); it is that you _defend what you believe in_.

(note for Vi: Err, you're living in a harsh world. Go start training some -jutsu, learn to speak out your way or at last get yourself some fast legs and a nice psycho to not blame yorself for running away. Are you a girl? Then go get yourself a nice boyfriend who WOULD be almost all muscles. It's IMO dumb, but it helps.)

and there am I back again... Well, you have to fight your way through and stand by your opinion, even if not through direct force. You do. Because the other way is just changing your personality all over regret, and, well, (quotes HIS master) "One shouldet live his life with no regrets, defending his opinion even with the sake of his own life~~" (something like that ^__^)
If you're all about being bullied, then don't runaway, stand by your opinion and well, you'll probably be samshed a few times, but then, in the end them dam' punks 'll slowly start respecting you, because the world they live in (I talk about usual bruteforce punks) is a world of force, so it's kinda like if you're not afraid, then you're already strong. The hell. .//logout
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Being bullied is anything but enjoyable. Those girls...They find making people miserable entertaining. They're throwing rocks at you, so that means that they're brave enough to piss off people but not brave enough to take the consequences. It's best to tell the teachers so they can get the consequences they deserve.
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[COLOR=Navy]I had things like this happen to me all the time in elementry school. People teasing me for the way I walked and for the way I spoke. (had a speech problem back then due to sickness)

People now still tease me for getting overly excited about something, or, not acting as mature as they are when I get excited about something....like when I told my friend I got a PS2. She was like, who cares.

Now I am really shy and quiet. Only do my real, and close friends see who I am really like.

Even though I can now speak properly and walk normally. People still make fun of me...it just happens. You just have to do what Drix says. Forgive them and walk away.

I know it is hard, but I am proud for the way you handled the situation. Walking away was the best option. You are not a coward. You are wise.

Walking away from bullies is even hard for me to do sometimes. I still get angered.

Like yesterday, one of the old men that comes in twice a week to help in the woodshop got hurt by the machines really bad. The guys in the class were laughing and joking about the whole ordeal. I felt like screaming at them to shut up. I hate it when people bully others. I hate it when I get bullied as well.

I feel that keeping silient is the best way for the situation not to get out of hand.

They are not worth your time. They are also pretty shallow and idiotic to pick on people. Why waste your breath and energy on them? They are not worth it and [I]getting back[/I] at them doesn't help either.

I hope that things get better for you.[/COLOR]
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Look, I sorta have it hard too I mean I'm like 5'2'' or something and people try to mess with me all the time but not so much as they used to. those f***ers wanna mess with me and I'll fight them without another word. You should just try to assert yourself a little more of coarse, I bet you hear that all the time.I had enemies just because I was short. after I asserted myself some of them even became my friends. Of course that one girl sounds like a f***ing b***h.
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[size=1]I have never been in a situation that extreme...and I hope never to be. You have emphasised numerous times the foolishness implicit in physically attacking them, and the dangers produced by verbally goading them. So, there is another avenue left. Make yourself superior to them. When people speak to you, look at them. When they swear at you [or whatever] then sneer at them. And remember that you are going somewhere whilst they are not.

Walk around, but when you walk, keep your head straight, and your shoulders back. For guys it is a bit easier, we can inject a bit of swagger into our walk, heh, but look like you own the joint.

I'm not saying go and provoke them. I'm not advocating that at all. You have to find the right balance between blending into the background, and looking like someone people shouldn't mess with though.[/size]
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[QUOTE=Baron Samedi][size=1]
Walk around, but when you walk, keep your head straight, and your shoulders back. For guys it is a bit easier, we can inject a bit of swagger into our walk, heh, but look like you own the joint.[/size][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][B]Hard to do that with rockport boots on (Blame the school, stupid rules about all-black shoes means no trainers and I hate most boots... ah well). I'd try o keep my head up straight... anyway.

Thanks for advice, everyone. Though I might find it hard to use Drix's advice... forgiving isn't something I want to give to them, I can forgive the dumb bruts who do it for fun, but there's a type of bully you can't forgive: The smart ones. Yep, level 5's (max' level over here) in their year 6 SAT's, high marks in Maths and... well, we'll pass on English, and high marks in everything else. I only beat them in stuff like History and English, but that's it. I can't forgive them, because they actually know.

I had an incident at the end of school disco with one of them, and I'd like to say I'm not entirely pleased about it, in fact I was pissed off as hell a few days after. Anyway, what he did (no name...) was be my friend, a real nice friend. I wasn't too sure since he was mean to me, but he was being my friend, too much of a friend. He gave me the Maths answers, and notes when we were doing the History essay and I had no notes. So I was fooled by the smartie pants... too much.

At the disco he was sat behind me, and I moved the chair to sit on it. The stupid **** pulled the chair away and I smacked the bottom of my spine. I asked him what he did it for, and he tells me to **** off and kicks me in the back, then on the last day he just swears at me. I won't forgive something like that, you're not supossed to use brains, a gift at Maths and other things for means of entertainment by hurting others, not to mention I seriously couldn't walk right after it but I was okay after a few hours. I forgot about it and just let it go for a few days, it won't bother me anymore, I hope.

...Ah, well.[/SIZE][/B]
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[COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Palatino Linotype]You essentially have two options. You can rend their flesh, but you'll depreciate your integrity for it. Or, you can avoid them and do nothing, but preserve your purity.

If you're looking to be as good a person as you can be, you can't compromise. Violence is violence, and that's not your domain. A breach now, and it could lead to further breaches in the future -- and ultimately, you sink to becoming exactly like they are. Purity demands completeness.

Or, if that's not your game, you can simply destroy them by whatever means you deem fit. You do, after all, have the will to power -- all of us do. You have a drive in you to fulfill it, and it's your option to pursue that. If you do, you have an advantage -- keep in mind what Sun Tzu said: "Simulated disorder postulates perfect discipline, simulated fear postulates courage; simulated weakness postulates strength." Keep in mind, though, the warning above.

Ultimately, it is your path to take. I give no advice on to which option is preferable, but one is inevitable.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Just dont go overboard with revenge like I did.I had the same problem.But like I said,dont overdo it.I caught the bastards on the backroads with my friends.Well long story short,30 rounds of 12gauge buckshot was spent and I have no more problems.BUT just so you know,no one was hurt OR killed.Their truck isnt in good shape though.So just blow em offIgnore them.OR do the same back to em.Just stay away.And if you cant beat em,get someone bigger.

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